The Australian today brings us the latest set of breakdowns from three months’ accumulation of Newspoll results, and the second to be published since its ambit was extended beyond state, age and gender to education, income, language and religion. Highlights:
• Labor is credited with a lead of 51-49 in New South Wales, compared with 50-50 in the April-June quarter and 51.8-48.2 to the Coalition at the election, and its lead in Victoria is out to 56-44, compared with 55-45 and 53.1-46.9. Once again though, Queensland is Labor’s sticking point, with the Coalition lead recorded at 59-41, compared with 56-44 last quarter and 58.4-41.6 at the election. The Coalition leads 54-46 in Western Australia, compared with 55-45 last quarter and 55.6-44.4 at the election, and is now at level pegging in South Australia, compared with 53-47 to Labor last poll and 50.7-49.3 to Labor at the election.
• The Coalition leads 53-47 among men and trails 51-49 among women, compared with 52-48 to the Coalition among men and 52-48 to Labor among women last quarter.
• The age effect is a little more modest in the latest poll, with Labor leading 58-42 among the 18-34s and 53-47 among the 35-49s, respectively compared with 62-38 and 52-48 last quarter. The Coalition leads 54-46 among the 50-64s and 63-37 among the 65-plus, compared with 53-47 and 62-38 last quarter.
• Whereas the result was a perfect 50-50 among each of the three education cohorts last time, this time the Coalition leads 53-47 among those with no tertiary qualifications and 51-49 among those with TAFE and technical qualifications, while Labor leads 52-48 among those with university degrees.
• The last poll has 50-50 splits among the three lowest income cohorts, whereas the Coalition leads 57-43 among those with household incomes of $150,000 or higher. Last quarter, it was 50-50 among those on $50,000 or lower, 52-48 to the Labor among those on $50,000 to $100,000, 52-48 to the Coalition on those from $100,000 to $150,000, and 53-47 to the Coalition on $150,000 and higher.
• The Coalition leads 52-48 among those who speak only English at home, out from 51-49, and Labor leads 56-44 among non-English speakers, in from 57-43.
• The Coalition leads 60-40 among Christians, out from 58-42, and Labor leads 57-43 among those with no religion, in from 58-42.
The full results can be viewed here, I think without a paywall. The results are compiled from YouGov’s Newspoll surveys from June 3 to August 8, with a combined sample of 6392.
C@tmomma @ #2437 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 7:48 pm
Okotel was mentioned in the Australian article during the week.
‘Well I condemned Labor corruption in Victoria and I condemned Liberal corruption in Victoria.’
But not Green corruption in Victoria…?
Dear Lars is absolutely correct. The liberal shenanigans unveiled tonight are just a mirror image of the Labor stacking we saw a few weeks back.
Most of these Labor and Liberal hacks know each other from Uni, foreign government funded study tours and the like. If it wasn’t for the Greens focus on accountability – lifetime pensions and other rorts would be quickly reintroduced.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s office says of tonight’s @60Mins report: “This is an organisational matter for the Victorian Division of the Party.” #auspol #springst
Sprocket
He would say that.
Hard to know where politics ends and corruption starts much of the time. Personally I feel sorry for the foot soldiers who do all the hard yards quietly because they really believe in the core values of their respective parties.
LvT,
But you haven’t condemned The Greens’ verbal and sexual harassment of their staff. Nor the misogyny of one of their candidates, exposed in the 2019 election.
Anyway, what about the rumours pertaining to Lee Rhiannon and Hal Greenland? They are said to have had firm control of the faction numbers in NSW and used them as ruthlessly as any other political player from any other political party. Their hands are not clean.
A question for Lib and Lab partisans…
Would you consider elevating your second preference from the last election to first preference at the next election given the corruption revelations ?
You know what’s crazy.
How insular Australian media is. Did anyone see anything about the flooding in China on the news.
It’s off tap. Have a glance at the Three Gorges Dam on twitter.
Largest Flood prevention dam in the world and ‘it’s moved’ a bit.
30% of the worlds Chickens are gone.
20% of the worlds corn.
Food for 400 million Chinese is in doubt because the flood waters hit their food bowl.
Some clever farmers in Australia could make some money right about now me thinks.
Does everyone need another reminder of the dysfunctional NSW chapter of the Greens?
The Trots, treehuggers and Teals are only united in slander of each other.
Is Perrottet rolling the Premier going to get another run, or is that on hold?
sprocket_ @ #2455 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 7:57 pm
LOL!
Whats the language like ?
Any f…ing stupid moll type comments.
What about a f…ing psycho bitch.
sprocket_ @ #2447 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 9:57 pm
Lady MacMorrison cannot wash their hands of this one. It involves FEDERAL MPs and Ministers.
I mean, what is the guy saying? That he doesn’t control the destiny of the federal MPs of the Liberal Party? That’s pretty pathetic if so.
sprocket_ says:
Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 10:00 pm
Does everyone need another reminder of the dysfunctional NSW chapter of the Greens?
The Trots, treehuggers and Teals are only united in slander of each other.
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Go on Bob sprockets – give them the applied whatabout therapy they crave!
Rex, start the sinners off with a critique of where the Liberals went wrong, and how they should redeem themselves.
When, with your assistance, fueled by your new found Jesuitical fervour, that issue has been exhausted, you can turn your sights on Labor piccadillos for their consideration.
Will be a case of Teflon arse Smoko saying it wasnt me and he will still be the greatest.
Why are you trying to divert attention away from the Liberal Party with a distraction about China, south?
Though I will admit it makes a change from your constant attempts at destabilising the leadership of the Labor Party and Anthony Albanese.
steve davis says:
Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 10:04 pm
Will be a case of Teflon arse Smoko saying it wasnt me and he will still be the greatest.
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Against the power of Mordor there can be no victory!
Taylormade, here is the Liberal rationale, per Mr Bastiaan…
“Who gives a shit … we are trying to win a f—ing seat mate … The reality is, this is the hardest f—ing business now to get a job while you’re a candidate. It’s impossible because you can’t work and also campaign so the party has to provide some sort of cover … That’s a political, that’s a reality. You can’t change it. That’s politics.”
Lars Von Trier @ #2458 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 10:03 pm
And your blatant attempts to divert attention away from the Liberal Party tonight are also transparent in their obvious desperation to turn the spotlight away from what we have just seen and heard about the Liberal Party. Why have you decided to do that, LvT?
And the Coalition thought they would have a field day with Labor this week in parliament. 🙂
C@t how much plainer spoken can I be? I have condemned Liberal corruption in Victoria.
And a remarkably ephemeral condemnation it was too.
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 10:04 pm
Why are you trying to divert attention away from the Liberal Party with a distraction about China, south?
Though I will admit it makes a change from your constant attempts at destabilising the leadership of the Labor Party and Anthony Albanese.
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c@t you admitted to your own doubts about Albo, why is that verboten for south ?
Lots of jolity in these ‘private’ texts between Bastiaan and his Liberal mates….
‘It can be hard to separate hubris from reality with Mr Bastiaan, but new leaked communications obtained by The Age, the Herald and 60 Minutes do reveal ugly and immature posturing. In private conversations in 2017 between Mr Bastiaan and the vice-president of the Young Liberals, Alex Lisov, Mr Bastiaan describes Senator James Paterson’s wife — who was at the time childless – as having a “barren womb”. Mr Lisov responded by mocking the Patersons for having “no family values”.
“They hate the institution of family,” he wrote.
In another private message, Mr Bastiaan derided senior Victorian Liberal official Sean Armistead, who is Indigenous, as a “fake Aboriginal”. When another Liberal operative joked that Mr Armistead was involved in “pagan abo rubbish” such as “praying to the rainbow serpent”, Mr Bastiaan responded: “Ha ha.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/that-s-politics-inside-the-liberal-party-s-branch-stacking-machine-20200821-p55o1f.html
RonniSalt
@RonniSalt
Gee, Andrew Carswell* is going to have to conjure up a hell of a lot more than a few curry cooking shots on Facebook after #60Mins just dished up that bowl of muck.
#ScottyTheSaviour
#SukkarTheStacker
(*Morrison’s head comms man)
Well at least Freedom Boy has a sense of humour…
What is the logic behind Lib and Lab partisans attacking each other over corruption ?
Lars Von Trier @ #2467 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 10:11 pm
Maybe once or twice. That’s completely different to a constant drumbeat against the guy, as practiced by south here on PB. Mine isn’t and never has been, a concerted campaign. Complete with my own juvenile made-up hashtag.
It’s just part of the short term political focus these days.
Fulvio Sammut @ #2466 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 10:11 pm
Before he went on to bang the drum for The Greens, fcs!
Funny Rex, but but as a partisan yourself, I would have thought you’d have understood the logic.
As my son commented to me the other day (not about Bastiaan but the guy in the Doors Plus ad),
‘I’d be embarrassed if I grew up to be a door salesman. 😀
There’s always a 2GB interview:
Matt Burke
@matttburke
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1h
Awks.
“Scott Morrison has declared the Labor Party “are absolutely at war” as they navigate a branch stacking scandal.
“We’re fighting for jobs, they’re fighting each other…Anthony Albanese is leading a party in absolute chaos and disarray.”
Ouch!
Stephen Spencer
@sspencer_63
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
@TimWilsonMP
will still vote with the people who tried to do him over, and serve loyally on the backbench forever, while Sukkar stays as minister, and his boss tells the world what a fine upstanding bloke Sukkar and his mates are.
C@t, there’s always a lying, sanctimonious hypocrite, too.
Would bludgers now acknowledge that Lib and Lab can’t be entrusted to establish a federal ICAC with teeth ?
This guy makes the right point as Scott Morrison is trying to run away from the 60 Minutes expose at a million miles an hour:
Anthony Bieniak
@Bienie
Replying to
@rwillingham
@60Mins
and
@abcmelbourne
One would think that misuse of Federally funded staff would be a Federal issue?
Simon Banks
@SimonBanksHB
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1h
“Corruption expert Geoffrey Watson, SC, who analysed the secret recordings of Mr Somyurek, described the Bastiaan memo endorsed by Mr Sukkar as “prima facie evidence of the misuse of taxpayers’ money”.
‘That’s politics’: Inside the Liberal Party’s branch-stacking machine
The drab outer suburban Melbourne electorate office of conservative federal MP Kevin Andrews is an unlikely place to launch a political heist.
smh.com.au
I have always believed that the Libs couldn’t be entrusted to establish a federal ICAC, with or without teeth.
Smoko is guilty of nothing. Completely blameless in everything he does. It wasnt me.Look over there. Nothing to do with me. Im in charge of nobody and nothing. The sad thing is the compliant MSM and the voters let the bullshitter off over and over again as well.
Jack the Insider
@JacktheInsider
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1h
Geoffrey Watson SC on the Vic Lib branch stacking expose. “I very much doubt that Sukkar can or should remain a minister of the Crown. A minister is a position of real power and thus real trust and you cannot have it in the hands of people who abuse it.”
https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victo
This doesn’t surprise me:
Christopher Johnson
@Dream_Brother_
FYI Marcus Bastiaan’s wife Stephanie Ross was among protesters who would harass patients outside abortion clinics and The Royal Women’s Hospital.
Enjoy all the stuff about the liberal party and all. I don’t think it matters.
Also C@t,
#AbsentAlbo isn’t childish, unless you think all of twitter is.
Also you remembered it!
And last time I checked the labor party had a heart for people suffering in the world (lets not talk about boat people eh).
There’s a lot of people suffering in China due to extreme weather. It’s worth keeping an eye on. The fallout of this storm will have impacts on the CCP. In addition to the fact it’s extreme weather that’s probably CC related.
I wouldn’t want to seem like someone who drones on and on about one topic on this blog, such as as the RGR years. Or Christine Milne tanking the ETS, Or how the left faces a media bias. I don’t want to be like that so here I am talking about world news.
But to stay on topic. I’m willing to give Albo this next 14 days to reset his opinion in my mind.
MsRebeccaRobins
@MsRebeccaRobins
#auspol Hmm 20 mins into the #60Mins story about the Liberals .Rachel Baxendale the Dan Andrews hater tweets she’s going on leave until 1st of Sept . Hmm interesting very interesting
C@t
Interesting.
south,
If you think #absentAlbo is nowhere to be found, you ain’t been looking.
Multiple examples of his presence in the media and the effect Labor is having on government policy are given, you just ignore them all.
Victoria @ #2489 Sunday, August 23rd, 2020 – 10:59 pm
Yes, I wonder how the Herald Sun will treat the story about the Victorian Liberal Party tomorrow?