Six states’ Democratic primaries: live commentary

Joe Biden is very likely to win the Democratic nomination, with Sanders needing big breaks in today’s primaries. Guest post by Adrian Beaumont

11:50am Nate Silver on Washington’s count

11:40am In Mississippi, Sanders has 14.8% with all precincts in.  Mississippi has a large provisional vote, so Sanders may exceed the 15% threshold for statewide delegates once those votes are tallied.  Biden won every single county in the three M states.

11:32am However, there’s bad news for Sanders in Washington State.  The latest votes put Biden ahead by 34.8% to 33.5%, reversing a 0.2% Sanders lead in yesterday’s counting.  Dave Wasserman has called Washington for Biden.  Washington appeared demographically friendly to Sanders, and he may not be able to win another state-run primary.  There are few delegates to be decided by party-run primaries and caucuses.

11:24am Thursday In good news for Sanders, he’s the winner in North Dakota by a 53-40 margin.  ND was a party-run primary, not state-run.  There were only 14 polling places for the whole state, and just 14,400 votes total.  Left-wing activists are more likely to make up a greater share of turnout in such low-turnout affairs.

4:00pm Idaho CALLED for Biden.  He currently leads by 48-42 with 74% in.

3:53pm If Sanders stays in, next Tuesday is likely to be brutal for him.  Four big states vote: Florida, Ohio, Illinois and Arizona.  Given Biden’s dominance everywhere in Michigan, he is likely to crush Sanders.  14.5% of delegates will be awarded next Tuesday, taking us to 61.5% of all pledged delegates.

3:49pm In the delegate count at The Green Papers, Biden now leads Sanders by 845 to 706.  Overall popular votes are 37.6% Biden, 30.1% Sanders.

3:44pm With 68% reporting in Idaho, Biden leads by 47-42.  The bottom line, no matter what happens in Washington’s late counting, Idaho or North Dakota, is that Biden is dominating with black voters and both higher-educated and lower-educated whites.  Biden will clearly be the Democratic nominee to face Trump in November.

3:30pm With 22% reporting in North Dakota, Sanders leads Biden by 45-34.  But there are only 14 delegates in this small, strongly Republican state.

3:18pm With 50% reporting in Idaho, Biden leads Sanders by 47-41.

2:57pm Biden has won every county in Mississippi and Missouri, and is barely losing two counties in Michigan.  In the 2016 contest against Hillary Clinton, Sanders dominated in rural areas where there were many lower-educated whites.  Not against Biden.

2:50pm In Mississippi, Sanders’ vote has dropped to 14.9% with 97% in.  If his vote stays at that level, he will miss the 15% delegate threshold for statewide delegates.

2:48pm With all counties reporting initial postal votes in Washington, Sanders leads by just 0.2%, 32.7-32.5.  Many of these votes were cast when other candidates were still in.  I don’t think we will get the remaining votes today; we’ll have to wait a week or two for them to come in.

2:16pm In the first results from Idaho, Biden leads by 43-33.

2:14pm Washington uses an all-postal ballot.  Votes that arrive before election day are tallied as soon as polls close.  With an estimated 64% reporting, Sanders and Biden are tied at 32.8% each.

1:52pm Meanwhile in California, Sanders’ lead has dropped to 6.7% today from 7.0% yesterday and 9% on election night last week.

1:38pm Some good news for Sanders: the North Dakota postal vote has him winning by 40-26 over Biden, but Biden is likely to gain when election day votes report.  Meanwhile, Biden leads by 53-39 in Michigan (55% in), 59-34 in Missouri (66% in) and 81-15 in Mississippi (77% in).  If Sanders does not reach 15% in Mississippi, he will not qualify for statewide delegates.

12:17pm Biden is leading by 54-28 in Missouri with 6% reporting.  There’s a large vote for candidates who have dropped out, which should drop as more election day votes are counted.

12:06pm With all polls now closed in Michigan, and Biden 12 points up without much from Detroit (Wayne county), Michigan has been CALLED for Biden.

11:50am With 3% reporting in Mississippi, Biden has an 83-13 lead.  Most of what’s been counted is likely postal votes, which skew to Biden, but that’s a massive margin.

11:46am CNN analyst Harry Enten

11:43am Biden still leading by ten points in Michigan with 10% reporting.  Twitter commentary suggests Sanders is losing white lower-educated precincts that he won against Clinton in 2016.

11:27am Biden leads by 54.4-41.4 in Michigan with 4% reporting.

11:20am Biden leads by 85-11 in the first Mississippi results.

11:13am Remember that Democratic delegates are awarded proportionally with a 15% threshold.  So margins of victory matter, not just winning a state.  A massive win for Biden in Mississippi will earn him many delegates.

11:07am Based on exit polls, Mississippi and Missouri have been CALLED for Biden.

10:42am Wednesday Polls close at 11am AEDT in Missouri, Mississippi and North Dakota.  Michigan has two time zones, with the majority closing at 11am, while the western bit closes at 12pm.  Idaho and Washington close at 2pm.

Guest post by Adrian Beaumont, who joins us from time to time to provide commentary on elections internationally. Adrian is an honorary associate at the University of Melbourne. His work on electoral matters for The Conversation can be found here, and his own website is here.

Democratic primaries will be held today in Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota and Washington State. The result will determine 352 of the 3,979 total pledged delegates (9% of the total). Michigan (125 delegates) and Washington (89) are the two biggest states voting. Polls close Wednesday between 11am and 2pm AEDT.

Last Tuesday, Joe Biden won ten states to four for Bernie Sanders. In the next two days, the two remaining contenders, Mike Bloomberg and Elizabeth Warren, withdrew, leaving a two-candidate contest for the remaining delegates. Biden dominated the south, but also had surprise wins in Minnesota, Massachusetts and Maine.

The delegate count at The Green Papers gives Biden a 681 to 608 lead over Sanders, but this understates Biden’s advantage. Sanders has an advantage with left-wing Democrats and Latinos, but most of the southwestern states, where Latinos have a relatively high share of the population, have now voted.

In 2016, Sanders benefited from lower-educated white voters aversion to Hillary Clinton, something Donald Trump exploited in the general election. However, the Minnesota county results show that Biden performed well in rural regions, helping him to a nine-point statewide win. This implies that Biden has a greater appeal than Clinton to lower-educated whites.

Biden is winning black voters by massive margins, and he is winning both higher-educated and lower-educated whites. There are few states with a significant Latino population left. An exception is Florida, which votes with three other large states next Tuesday. However, Florida’s Latinos are far more conservative than Latinos in the southwest owing to the Cuban Americans. Florida is also demographically elderly. Florida polls have Biden crushing Sanders.

Biden leads Sanders by 51-35 in the RealClearPolitics national average in polls conducted since last Tuesday. Biden leads Sanders by 22 points in Michigan, and has a small lead in Washington, which should be Sanders’ strongest of the six states. In 2016, Sanders defeated Clinton in Michigan after a massive polling error, but he was performing much better then with lower-educated whites.

There’s also bad news for Sanders from California’s late counting, where his lead over Biden has been reduced from nine points on election night to seven. Late counting in California usually skews left, but many moderates did not vote early, withholding their vote until they knew Biden was the moderate candidate.

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  1. Rational Leftist @ #50 Tuesday, March 10th, 2020 – 9:25 pm

    I don’t know how “Joementum” caught on with the Biden campaign but it’s weird to me because it will always remind me of back when Joe Lieberman used the portmanteau for his failed run in 2004.

    Ah, Lieberman, now there’s somebody who you could genuinely say would have governed like a Republican.

    It’s not that hard. Once all the other centrists vacated the scene, Biden’s vote soared. Sanders was always on borrowed time despite the enthusiasm of his supporters.

    In the end Sanders could not deliver the votes he said he could.

  2. Greensborough Growler, I was referring to use of the term. Not how Biden ascended. I can see how that happened.

  3. Bernie still has one guy in his corner.

    Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
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    23h
    Now the Democrats are trying to smear Bernie with Russia, Russia, Russia. They are driving him Crazy!

  4. Nicholas says:
    Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 8:42 pm
    Sanders is a centre-left social democrat. There is nothing extremely left-wing about him.

    Centrists need to develop some self-awareness for a change, and recognise that what they are doing is reckless and selfish. They are not thinking about the impacts of nominating Biden, which are: 1. He wins and governs as a Republican; or more likely 2. He loses and also drags down Democrats in House, Senate, and state elections.

    The pragmatic choice is Sanders.

    The target here for N is ‘centrists’. Presumably this means the usual suspects here at PB. This is not much of a target. The usual suspects don’t get to vote in the US. They don’t campaign in the US. They can have exactly zero influence over the tens of millions of Democrat-affiliating voters that participate in the US primaries. They seek no influence. They watch along with everyone else. N can have no influence either.

    Once again, the pop-left are vilifying their could-be allies and partners for no reason other than to self-gratify. The splitters will split. Pity is/pity true…but fuck em just the same.

  5. RI @ #56 Tuesday, March 10th, 2020 – 9:35 pm

    Nicholas says:
    Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 8:42 pm
    Sanders is a centre-left social democrat. There is nothing extremely left-wing about him.

    Centrists need to develop some self-awareness for a change, and recognise that what they are doing is reckless and selfish. They are not thinking about the impacts of nominating Biden, which are: 1. He wins and governs as a Republican; or more likely 2. He loses and also drags down Democrats in House, Senate, and state elections.

    The pragmatic choice is Sanders.

    The target here for N is ‘centrists’. Presumably this means the usual suspects here at PB. This is not much of a target. The usual suspects don’t get to vote in the US. They don’t campaign in the US. They can have exactly zero influence over the tens of millions of Democrat-affiliating voters that participate in the US primaries. They seek no influence. They watch along with everyone else. N can have no influence either.

    Once again, the pop-left are vilifying their could-be allies and partners for no reason other than to self-gratify. The splitters will split. Pity is/pity true…but fuck em just the same.

    The shorter Nicky is, “Vote for Sanders or I’ll cry”.

  6. Sanders problem is not that he’s left-wing. His problem is that he campaigns hard against the Democrats while at the same time seeking to enlist their support. The usual-voter reflex to this is to tell Sanders to get lost. He’s a virtual Green in a Blue smock. He’s a crypto-Trump – an anti-Democrat – all said and done. Voters will not buy from such a changeling. The evidence for this is the decline -roughly 50% – in his vote share.

  7. Sanders problem is not that he’s left-wing. His problem is that he campaigns hard against the Democrats while at the same time seeking to enlist their support.

    I don’t think that’s quite right. Sanders’ problem is that he pledges too much change and it just scares the bejeesus out of people.

    I said a few weeks ago, and it’s held true to this day: Democrats are trying to win an election, whereas Sanders is trying to win a revolution.

  8. Fess…I think it’s possible to campaign for change in the US. But that requires a coalition for reform to be built. Sanders has driven off his potential supporters. He has a minority position on too many things…too many who could possibly support him have been traduced by him…counter-productive campaigning

  9. As more data emerge to explain former Vice President Joe Biden’s stunning victory on Super Tuesday, there are two clear demographics that propelled him: African-American voters and suburban voters with college degrees.

    It’s a coalition that helped moderate Democrats flip seven governorships, two Senate seats and about 40 House districts (the newly Democratic suburbs alone would have secured a House majority) from red to blue in 2018. African-Americans have long made up a core of the Democratic voting base, but many of Mr. Biden’s college-educated, suburban supporters are right-leaning independents or moderate Republicans who supported candidates like John McCain and Mitt Romney. They don’t want to re-elect Donald Trump. And they’re willing to cross over to vote for a Democrat — a moderate and mainstream Democrat.

    This seems important. Critical even.

    Also supports Rick Wilson’s long-standing assertion that the one candidate the Dems can’t run is Sanders.

  10. RI:

    Sanders is also more Trumpian than many are willing to admit.

    For an ideologue such as Sanders, there is always reason to oppose practical measures, be it the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement or President Barack Obama’s bailout to save the country from a devastating depression. Stephanopoulos pointed out that the latter was “also backed by President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, your own senior senator from Vermont, Pat Leahy.” Were they also wrong? Sanders responded, “That’s right.” For Sanders, no Democrat is pure or operating out of good will. They are all dupes and pawns.

    One might ask how he expects to accomplish any of his extreme agenda when so many in the Democratic Party have no interest in his views or how he expects to unite a party when, he acknowledges, “we’re not going to get the support of most elected leaders. Not most governors, not most senators.”

    Sanders keeps insisting he is “winning the support of grass-roots America.” That simply is not so. Biden won 10 of 14 states, driving turnout sky-high in states he won, like Virginia. Sanders’s promised onslaught of new voters has never shown up.

    Perhaps he and his snarling online supporters should confront an unpleasant truth: Sanders’s problem is not the establishment or corporate Democrats or billionaires. It is the voters.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/09/sanders-gets-more-trumpian-by-day/?utm_campaign=wp_for_you&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_personalizedforyou

  11. JM:

    Ultimately we’ll know whether Wilson was right come November. But it’s worth pointing out that so many PBers were willing to dismiss his opinions simply because they disagree with his politics, without even bothering to unpack what he was saying.

    This was published back in January:

    Asked which Democrat is best suited for the fight, Wilson admits to being impressed by Warren’s willingness to work hard and how she champions the little guy. But he still goes for Joe Biden.

    “I think it will be Biden because name ID is very powerful,” he says of the former senator and vice-president. “He is the one candidate who has shown the most ability to contrast with Trump in terms of a broader, bigger picture that isn’t just locked into what’s the hot flavor of Democratic messaging this year.

    “He’s talking about that big American sense of unity and reconciliation and saying we’ve got to work with Republicans too.”

    It’s true you don’t get much policy detail at a Biden rally, but you do see plenty of slightly hokey appeals to the better angels of America’s nature.

    “There’s nothing in Joe Biden that scans as evil or dark or weird or out of touch,” Wilson says. “He can be a little goofy but that’s not bad, not the worst thing in the world right now.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/11/donald-trump-rick-wilson-running-against-the-devil

  12. Confessions @ #67 Tuesday, March 10th, 2020 – 9:06 pm

    JM:

    Ultimately we’ll know whether Wilson was right come November. But it’s worth pointing out that so many PBers were willing to dismiss his opinions simply because they disagree with his politics, without even bothering to unpack what he was saying.

    I have always been cautious about Wilson’s statements, and always will be.

    The style of political campaigning, of division and dumbing down, of winning at (more or less) all costs, that he and other Repub operatives have indulged in over the last 30-40 years is one of the critical factors in the US ending up in a Trumpian cult swamp.

    But have also always taken Wilson seriously. I listen very carefully to what he has to say. If for no other reason than he knows the mind of the Repubs.

  13. Centrists are as clueless about this election as they were about 2016. Biden is an even weaker general election candidate than Hillary Clinton was. If he is the nominee, the GOP have their best possible chance of success.

    It is important to be able to think critically. Centrists only think superficially. For them, everything is about the need to be performatively pragmatic. This translates into surrendering to conservatives on issue after issue. The public are the losers in all this.

  14. It is important to be able to think critically.

    I mean this with all due respect but there is nothing you have posted that suggests to me in the slightest that you think critically on this topic. I mean, sure, support Sanders. Do it for whatever reason you want but just realise your reasoning has been just as motivated as (if not more) than the ‘centrists’ you condemn.

  15. Nicholas says:
    Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    Centrists are…clueless…..It is important to be able to think critically.

    You are such an intellectual snob, N. Fuck me til I drop but you are an arrogant sonofagun. One day you’ll wake up and discover the sun does not shine out of your arse.

  16. Ohbiden is gunna get smashed by Dumph. He doesn’t have what it takes to give a five minute speech. His minders have had him in hiding, but his senility has still come through. I’m looking forward to Sellout Central on here contorting all over the place in their excuse making for him, just as they did with Hillary.

  17. “Bernie still has one guy in his corner”…

    Oh yeah, Trump is in the corner too…. A cornered president, a cornered candidate… there is no escape for both of them.

  18. “clem attleesays:
    Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:41 pm
    Ohbiden is gunna get smashed by Dumph. He doesn’t have what it takes to give a five minute speech…”

    Boris, Trump, Morrison…

    Why do you think that the ability to deliver a speech matters at all?

  19. “Democrats are trying to win an election, whereas Sanders is trying to win a revolution.”…

    Correction: Sanders is trying to start a revolution…. whereas most other democrats (with the exception of Bloomberg) are trying to reform American capitalism.

  20. People don’t care about Biden’s mental state. If they did, he wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee. This election will simply be a referendum on Trump.

  21. The forthcoming election in the US will be the moment of Trump’s political demolition. Biden may not be the heaviest wrecking ball or the most well formed. But the voters of America will cast him at Trump anyway. Toppled he will be. Trump will be broken by the voters and Biden will be their instrument. It’s that simple. Perhaps it’s because Biden stands for so very little that a majority can rally to him. In these highly partisan times, a non-partisan can unite those who agree on just one thing – the need to shatter Trump.

  22. Nicholas

    You can blame ‘centrists’ all you like, but it is increasingly clear that the US voters are choosing Biden over Sanders. We are not looking at a marginal difference in the level of support. It is now large and consistent.

    The promised wave of progressive Bernie Bros that were going to storm the country and swing the election is simply not materialising at the polling booth.

    Either they are not passionate and committed enough to bother turning up, or they just don’t exist in sufficient numbers.

  23. Why do speeches matter? Because the debates are a big deal and there are a whole series of them before November. In the primary debates Ohbiden could hide amongst he large field. From now on he wont be able to.

  24. Err. didn’t you say the same things about Malcy and Morrison too Briefly? Sorry, but I do not have as much faith in your prediction of Dumph’s demise. If Ohbiden is the Democrat candidate forget it!

  25. “clem attleesays:
    Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 12:48 am
    Why do speeches matter? Because the debates are a big deal and there are a whole series of them before November. In the primary debates Ohbiden …”

    Remind me how well Trump did. Or Johnson in the UK campaign.

    The debates are a big deal for political tragics. Not so much for the rest.

    BTW, the cute names are tiresome.

  26. My recollection during the 2019 campaign was that we were being smashed by the Liberals. The polls said one thing. Interaction with voters said quite another. There was never any sign from voters that a swing to Labor was forming. I did meet a lot of angry voters.

    In the US the polling and the voting results seem to be matching up. Maybe US pollsters are just better at measuring their field. They have a lot more data to work with.

    The single most impressive factor about Sanders polling when 2016 and 2020 are compared is that his support has crashed. He’s not the force he was in 2016. Not by a long shot. Democratic voters don’t want him.

    The faithful don’t like it. They blame others. They could ask whether their product is still marketable or whether it’s just not what voters want.

  27. Err, Ohbiden has been made to look the decrepit fool he is already, even though he has tried to hide in the big field. Johnson speaks quite well. He is not my cup of tea obviously, but he holds his own. Ohbiden is cringe worthy and wait until Dumph starts up on him. BTW, the MSM have not been covering Ohbiden’s senility because they don’t want to give Sanders a leg up. But wait until the presidential election campaign… I can just imagine the leads… “and in the latest election news, the Democrats have questions to answer re Mr Biden’s metal faculties after he confused his dog for his wife whilst on campaign.”

  28. As they did on Super Tuesday, 538 have frozen their Primary Forecast model awaiting tonight’s votes

    Biden currently at >99% chance of a delegate majority, Sanders at 0.1%

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-final-forecast-for-todays-primaries/

    They also have a good analysis of Michigan compared to 2016

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/michigan-might-not-be-as-sanders-friendly-this-time/

  29. Could this be the new Dream Team? Kamala is very articulate and won’t hold back in the attack dog role on Trump, all Joe has to do is follow on with platitudes and smiles, with the odd killer line.

    Biden/Harris unites the East and West coasts

  30. ‘Socrates says:
    Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 7:20 am

    This article also suggests the main problem for Sanders: the youth in his youth strategy did not turn up to vote for him.
    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/03/bernie-sanders-and-the-failure-of-the-youth-vote-strategy

    Sanders has lots of main problems:

    1. Most Americans don’t support his ideology.
    2. Some of his supporters are arrogant, noxious and toxic.
    3. A geriatric trying to enthuse youf is inherently self-contradictory.
    4. He is a socialist who lives in three houses.
    5. Biden is more attractive to more Dems.

  31. If Sanders goes down by 5/6 or 6/6 today he should definitely quit for the good of the world.

    There’s the Sensible Centre.

    And then there is the Self Centred.

  32. Boerwar @ #89 Wednesday, March 11th, 2020 – 7:39 am

    If Sanders goes down by 5/6 or 6/6 today he should definitely quit for the good of the world.

    There’s the Sensible Centre.

    And then there is the Self Centred.

    Don’t you want Joe to have the chance to show he’s sharp as a tack in the head-to-head debate on Sunday? It seems really unkind to deprive him of that opportunity.

  33. Democrat Congress rep from Ohio:

    Jeremy Pelzer@jpelzer
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    Inbox: U.S. Rep. @Marcy_Kaptur endorses @JoeBiden. She endorsed @BernieSanders in 2016

  34. Rick Wilson@TheRickWilson
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    6h
    I mean this in the most dickish way possible: this will not go the way you Trumpers think this will go.

    Trump and GOP mount coordinated campaign to paint Biden as senile

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/10/trump-biden-clinton-age-senile-124797

    The Greens Jill Stein has also (surprise, surprise!) been running hard on twitter pushing that Biden is senile. Trump has been endorsing these tweets, naturally 😆

  35. Young Nicky is in full Propellor Cap Boy mode overnight: proclaiming the importance of being able to think critically and yet singularly failing to mod so with his unbridled hagiography of Bernie.

    Nicky started off the reservation with his claim that Sanders was a ‘social democrat’. Sanders himself has always described himself as a Socialist and in recent years as he eyes the Oval Office he has stressed that he is a democratic socialist.

    Nicky’ s claim that Sanders is a a social democrat appears to be based on a comparison of his actual policies with social democratic policies in western and Northern Europe. This is a clear sign that Nicky has failed to think critically. ‘Politics is perception’ and in the American context Sanders is believed to be a socialist by everyone, not the least himself. The fact that many of his policies fit within a theoretical model of what coonstitutes ‘social democracy’ is irrelevant.

    Sanders has turned out to be a terrible candidate and I have to say, worse than even Biden – who is the worst Presidential Candidate in history, until now.

    Sanders problems don’t even start with the label ‘socialist’, but the whole premise of his campaign is a bust. The point to Sander’s campaign – and in fact the reason why “the democrat establishment” opened up the whole process to outsiders (both as candidates and as voters) two election cycles ago – was to energise the youth and expand the pool of potential democrat voters into the disengaged and habitually non voting – yet progressive – cohort of Americans.

    Right now the political contest is being conducted amongst the politically engaged. A small fraction of those who will vote in the GE. An even smaller slice of the total enrolled voters. Yet even amongst this small pool cadre Sanders is a political failure: instead of mobilising a whole new movement into the Democratic Party he has clearly only carved out a niche – mainly amongst the already engaged. Sure the total vote has increased from 2016 but in many states its still below the numbers that voted in the 2008 process – even though the total pool of eligible voters has actually increased since then.

    Further, to the extent that more people have turned out the vote this time around they are clearly preferring to vote for anyone but Sanders. As the candidates winnowed it became clear that Bernie’s numbers weren’t down from 2016 simply because there were 7-8 other main candidates in the contest: votes from those who dropped out coalesced to the remaining moderates, ultimately swinging behind Biden.

    In the end the failure of the Sanders project is exactly same potential failure of the Biden campaign: both of these relics of a previous era have simply starved oxygen from more relevant and contemporary politicians.

    I agree with the boosters that it is an indictment of the Democratic Party that the best they can do is sleepy Joe: a candidate where the best thing that could be said of is that he hasn’t improved with age.

    The same criticism applies to the Progressive alternative: if an angry 80 year old curmudgeon selling retreaded and politically failed policies from yesteryear is the best you guys have on offer, then your movement is an irrelevancy.

  36. Jill Stein knows a thing or two about Red Flags. She’s a walking, talking Red Flag.

    Dr. Jill’s Cognitive decline started early. Possibly at birth. Anti-vaxxer.

  37. Andrew_Earlwood

    So are you saying Sanders is a greater failure than Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Bloomberg, Steyer, Yang, Gabbard, Patrick, Delaney and Bennet?

  38. Don’t expect to see Michigan primary results Tuesday – NBC live blog 🙁

    “Since Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson took office last year, Michigan has expanded voting options for citizens, including giving all voters the option to vote by mail and later voter registration. That’s led to the state sending off nearly a million absentee ballots for the 2020 primary, with more than 800,000 of them already returned … But under Michigan law, absentee ballots can’t even be opened until Election Day morning, leading to fears of long delays before precincts can produce a final count”

  39. Bellboy: I’m saying that between them the old men (including Bloomberg) have starved the oxygen from all the others you have listed, and perhaps even potential candidates who didn’t put their hand up.

    Sanders failure is to hog all the attention way from any other viable progressive candidate. Warren and possibly others.

    Biden’s failure is two fold. To starve all other potential moderates of oxygen and secondly to not really advance a reason for anyone other than the politically engaged to come out and vote for him. I honestly don’t believe that a referendum on Trump will get out the disengaged in sufficient numbers for the dems to overcome the in-build biases in the electoral college system: while political tragic loath Trump, the disengage Arte now used to him as President. The empeachment was a complete ‘meh’ moment: that is a very worrying sign that a pure ‘anti-Trump’ strategy will fail.

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