The Guardian reports on yet another fortnightly Essential Research poll with no voting intention numbers, but we does at least get the monthly leadership ratings. These show Scott Morrison down a point on approval to 39% and steady on disapproval at 52%, after the previous poll respectively had him down five and up nine. Anthony Albanese is respectively down two to 41% and up one to 31%, and he has lost his 39-36 lead as preferred prime minister, with the two now tied on 36%. The BludgerTrack trends on the sidebar have now been updated with these results.
Further questions on bushfire recovery, sports rorts and coronavirus don’t seem to have turned up anything too mindblowing, but the publication of the full report may turn up something hopefully later today.
UPDATE: Full report here. The most interesting of the supplementary findings for mine relate to the budget surplus, the consistent theme of which is that respondents aren’t that fussed about it: 79% agree spending on bushfire recovery is more important than maintaining it, with 11% disagreeing; 65% say it would be understandable if the coronavirus impact meant it wasn’t achieved, with 18% disagreeing; and 57% agree it was wrong for the government to discuss the surplus in the present tense before the election, with 24% disagreeing.
So after Listening to Albanese on Frans program it seems almost certain the Lib-Lab parliamentary fossil fuel cartel of terrorists will kill the Steggall bill. Peoples lives don’t matter a jot to the cartel of terrorists.
Sanders campaign requests partial recanvass of Iowa caucuses
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/sanders-campaign-requests-partial-recanvass-of-iowa-caucuses-20200211-p53zkh.html
Rex, have you been drinking red cordial?
Councils set for Supreme Court fight against North East Link
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/councils-set-for-supreme-court-fight-against-north-east-link-20200210-p53zgv.html
$15 billion to connect the Ring Road to the Eastern Freeway doesn’t sound like value for money to me.
Mr. Newbie..
A nice happy tune for you :-s
https://youtu.be/omEX35pbelI
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/indigenous-leaders-barred-from-discussing-constitutional-reform-20200211-p53zmw.html
Re intro of Greens NIC bill into HoR
The Guardan
Adam Bandt lost 72 to 70 to have the issue dealt with now, so the House is now voting on Darren Chester’s motion that it be dealt with in the next sitting.
Based on those numbers, that is what will happen
Adam Bandt on twitter
Right now, gov is gagging debate on establishing a federal anti-corruption commission.
The Senate – across party lines – has passed a Greens bill for a federal ICAC.
The Senate wants the House to vote on the bill.
But Libs won’t even let us have the debate.
Disgraceful.
Its cos the LNP are dirty. They fear an ICAC.
lizzie @ #203 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:12 pm
No one can deny the level of social and environmental destruction these terrorists have contributed to – death on a broad scale.
Everyone needs to get their heads around it.
Pegasus @ #208 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:23 pm
Good.
NEW SLOGAN FOR RENEWABLES THAT EVEN A NATIONALS MP COULD UNDERSTAND:
“IT’S CHEAPER, DICKHEAD!”
With all subsidies taken out, solar PV and wind wipe the floor with gas, coal and nuclear. Levelised cost of solar and wind is about $50 per megawatt hour, half that of gas and coal’s $100 per megawatt hour even without a carbon price. Nuclear is way off the money, priced anywhere between $250 and $330 per megawatt houR.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-wilfully-blind-to-economics-of-renewables-20200209-p53z4m.html
“High Court rules Aboriginal people cannot be deported for criminal convictions, cannot be ‘alien’ to Australia”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-people-cant-be-deported/11953012
nath @ #205 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:17 pm
Something has to be done. What do you suggest ?
PuffyTMD @ #214 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:30 pm
Did we really need the high court to say that ..?
Special tool for examination of Poll Bludger posts for heresy.
Rex Douglas @ #216 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 9:32 am
With Der Reichspotato in charge of Homeland Security, yes, sadly we did.
Another shameful government loss in the High Court. Dutton is a megalomaniacal creep, and the HC has so found.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/feb/11/nationals-liberal-party-morrison-mccormack-australian-politics-live?page=with:block-5e41e3678f08e13324740d81#block-5e41e3678f08e13324740d81
Really, when the government gets done over a core policy position by a High Court consisting of judges mostly selected by former Liberal governments, it is damning. Not even a relatively conservative group of lawyers can stomach what Dutton was proposing.
Surely the Solicitor General must have warned of this. Did Dutton press ahead in spite of their advice?
Can someone tell Albanese a majority can get bills passed.
Re the Bandt ICAC Bill.
The same fate awaits the cross bench climate bill when it comes before the house next month.
A piece of feel good look at me legislation by Steggall and co but ultimately will achieve nothing.
A clear example of why the only real action on climate change will happen is when a labor government is elected.
The Morrison government has the numbers. No one will cross the floor despite the wet dreams of some posters here. That is the political reality.
Perhaps it is time for the greens et al to acknowledge that fact.
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 12:08 pm
So after Listening to Albanese on Frans program it seems almost certain the Lib-Lab parliamentary fossil fuel cartel of terrorists will kill the Steggall bill. Peoples lives don’t matter a jot to the cartel of terrorists.
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You need to adjust your hearing aid (Hint: turn the green button down)
Does anyone here know who owns the Washington Post?
lefty e says:
Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 12:29 pm
NEW SLOGAN FOR RENEWABLES THAT EVEN A NATIONALS MP COULD UNDERSTAND:
“IT’S CHEAPER, DICKHEAD!”
With all subsidies taken out, solar PV and wind wipe the floor with gas, coal and nuclear. Levelised cost of solar and wind is about $50 per megawatt hour, half that of gas and coal’s $100 per megawatt hour even without a carbon price. Nuclear is way off the money, priced anywhere between $250 and $330 per megawatt houR.
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Nuclear is the play thing of the IPA.
The Liberals only listen to its key backers.
Bellwether @ #224 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 9:43 am
Jeff Bezos (Amazon founder)
Rex
Private members bills wont be debated unless the government allow them.
Bell
Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon and the richest man in the world, bought WaPo some years back
Mexicanbeemer @ #227 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:45 pm
A majority can tell the Govt to get stuffed.
Is that in the same way….
Source: The Guardian
Rex
Not if the government has a majority which this one does.
sprocket_ @ #228 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:46 pm
Little wonder then that the Washington Post considers a certain elderly Senator to be the anti-Christ.
Mexicanbeemer @ #231 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:49 pm
Not if a few moderates cross the floor they don’t
On the HC split decision 4-3 in favour of the plaintiffs, the first decision I read is by Kiefel CJ, and she is in the minority.
http://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2020/HCA/3
When Morrison decided to “turn back the boats”, we didn’t realise that he would have the same punitive attitude to First Nations, the unemployed, homeless, pensioners, single parents, and all other moral degenerates. (sarc)
Further on the HC case, one of the complainants has been in custody (now falsely) for almost 18 months!
“Outside the High Court, one of the men’s lawyers Claire Gibbs, said Mr Thoms had been in detention for 501 days and was “incredibly relieved” by today’s judgement.”
How much in compensation payments will this latest Dutton screw-up now cost us?
ABC radio news has managed to turn the coalition chaos story into an Albanese ‘denies accusations’ story….sheesh
lizzie:
[‘Legally definitive, but room for social blowback?’]
Yes, and I dare say Sky News and 2GB are onto it already, though the judiciary will be blind to such portended criticism. Hereunder, a summary of the judgment:
https://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/judgment-summaries/2020/hca-3-2020-02-11.pdf
In a shock to PegaRex and crew, Labor says they will work with Zali Steggal on her Bill- noting that it up to Morrison to allow debate and a vote
Isn’t an absolute majority required to suspend standing orders?
sprocket_ @ #239 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:54 pm
It’s up to a majority what happens in parliament.
You know, I still get the dreadful feeling that people still haven’t come to terms with, or accept, the level of destruction caused by climate heating which the parliament has contributed to.
Rex, what number is bigger?
Coalition 77
ALP 68 + minors 6 = 74
sprocket_ @ #242 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:56 pm
Butler needs to get to work on convincing a few Lib moderates to cross the floor rather than giving up because his Labor ‘friends of coal’ are telling him to.
The parliament is corrupted by social and environment terrorists.
Re likely Council challenge to North Eat Link
Response by local Whitehorse community group to report in The Age today:
“Hello all
As reported in today’s Age newspaper (see link below) four councils, including Whitehorse, are set to mount a Supreme Court challenge re the North East Link with particular reference to the ‘dodgy’ Environmental Effects Statement and the state Planning Minister dismissing serious concerns raised by the panel in their report following the 10 week public submissions hearing late last year.
Whitehorse Council will decide whether to go ahead with the legal challenge this week so now is the time to contact councillors and show community support for this action.
Can you please forward on this information and request via your networks.
The NEL poses serious disruption during the construction phase (for upwards of 5-7 years), will funnel far more traffic including large trucks into and through Whitehorse, destroy over 7,000 trees and remnant bushland, alter the ecology of the Yarra River, destroy what’s left of the Koonung Valley and create serious noise, dust, vibration and light pollution along the course of the freeway from Greensborough to Ringwood.
All this without serious consideration for public transport alternatives for our burgeoning population in metro Melbourne (for example the NEL works will kill any possibility of a light rail service to Doncaster and beyond via the median strip of the Eastern Freeway).
Given that vehicle emissions are second only to those of outmoded coal-fired power stations it is now time to hold ALL governments to account about the need to reduce our reliance on inefficient, polluting, fossil-fuelled vehicles”
Barney,
To answer your question, an absolute majority of the chamber is required to suspend standing orders only if the motion is without notice. Otherwise, a simple majority on the floor will do.
sprocket_ @ #244 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 12:59 pm
Only takes a few to be convinced to cross the floor…
Rex and Albo are both right!
It takes a majority to pass a Bill.
If you want real action on climate change, vote Labor.
If you want obstruction and destruction on climate change, vote Liberals and Nationals.
If you want grandstanding, stunting, protests, demands, urgings, etc, etc, etc, but no action on climate change, vote for the Greens.