Empty chairs

Victoria’s Greens gear up for a party vote to fill Richard Di Natale’s Senate vacancy, plus similar developments for the state Liberals in Tasmania and Victoria.

As you can see in the post below this one, the Courier-Mail yesterday had a YouGov Galaxy state poll for Queensland that found both major parties stranded in the mid-thirties on the primary vote. State results from this series are usually followed a day or two later by federal ones, but no sign of that to this point. If it’s Queensland state politics reading you’re after, I can offer my guide to the Currumbin by-election, to be held on March 29. Other than that, there’s the following news on how various parliamentary vacancies around the place will be or might be filled:

Noel Towell of The Age reports two former state MPs who fell victim to the Greens’ weak showing at the November 2018 state election are “potentially strong contenders” to take Richard Di Natale’s Senate seat when he leaves parliament, which will be determined by a vote of party members. These are Lidia Thorpe, who won the Northcote by-election from Labor in June 2018, and Huong Truong, who filled Colleen Hartland’s vacancy in the Western Metropolitan upper house seat in February 2018. The party’s four current state MPs have all ruled themselves out. Others said to be potential starters include Brian Walters, a barrister and former Liberty Victoria president, and Dinesh Mathew, a television actor who ran in the state seat of Caulfield in 2018.

• Former Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman’s seat in parliament will be filled by Nic Street, following a preference countback of the votes Hodgman received in the seat of Franklin at the March 2018 election. This essentially amounted to a race between Street and the other Liberal who nominated for the recount, Simon Duffy. Given Street was only very narrowly unsuccessful when he ran as an incumbent at the election, being squeezed out for the last of the five seats by the Greens, it was little surprise that he easily won the countback with 8219 out of 11,863 (70.5%). This is the second time Street has made it to parliament on a countback, the first being in February 2016 on the retirement of Paul Harriss.

The Age reports Mary Wooldridge’s vacancy in the Victorian Legislative Council is likely to be filled either by Emanuele Cicchiello, former Knox mayor and deputy principal at Lighthouse Christian College, or Asher Judah, who ran unsuccessfully in Bentleigh in 2018. Party sources are quoted expressing surprise that only four people have nominated, with the only woman being Maroondah councillor Nora Lamont, reportedly a long shot. Also in the field is Maxwell Gratton, chief executive of the Melbourne Queer Film Festival.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. That article on home ownership Victoria linked to featured a couple who would be buying their first home in their 50s by the time they saved for a 20% deposit.

    How likely is that banks would lend money for buying a home (30 year mortgage) to people that age given the average person doesn’t work into their 80s?

  2. ‘rhwombat says:
    Monday, February 10, 2020 at 11:54 am

    Boerwar @ #786 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:47 am

    RHW

    I also saw the funny side, as well as the dark side, of this:

    ‘Doctors use big words to hide bad things: Nosocomial means caught it in the hospital.’

    Inside hospitals (Tom Freiden isn’t a hospital doctor) it isn’t funny: we use the term “nosocomial” (and “HCW mortality”, and “open reporting”) to scare bureaucrats into doing something.

    It would be interesting to know the protocols that were in place to allow such a very high rate of in-hospital infections.
    That said, and being more or less totally ignorant of medical jargons, ‘nosocomial’ seemed like an evil sort of thing to me.
    Why ‘open reporting’ should be regarded as a threat by health bureaucrats is a no-brainer. It represents both loss of control and hence more accountability than health bureaucrats would like to live with.
    ‘HCW mortality’ or at least HCW infections in Peng’s Report, should be a frightener for everyone with an interest in the future of nCoV19.

  3. There are those who think that free money is generating a series of global asset bubbles which will, in due course, pop.
    Housing and shares in Australia are thought to be two of those bubbles.
    I freely admit that I have given up trying to understand the various contradictions being generated by post GFC free money.
    One such is economic growth without wages growth.

  4. Denise Shrivell #climateactnow YES! @deniseshrivell
    · 33m
    I’m extremely confused as to why Mathias Cormann would be allowed to openly lie this morning on @BreakfastNews in an interview with @mjrowland68 – but then even more confused as to why these lies are being replayed across @abcnews throughout the day #auspol

    ***
    Cheryl Kernot
    @cheryl_kernot
    ·
    5m
    This poses a huge editorial issue for you @abcnews
    Just because MPs open their mouths it doesn’t mean our public broadcaster is obligated to repeat what they say on a news loop when it is WRONG. Not just an opinion but factually incorrect. You owe us accuracy
    ***

  5. One Queenslander I liked, but who died a fair while ago, had fought in the Battle of Jutland. Imagine that!

    He was a stoker in an engine room. For the entire Battle he saw nothing and he heard nothing. He told me that every now and then an order would come down to increase steam or decrease steam. But that was that.

    He was a gentle lovely man and we enjoyed many a leisurely morning and afternoon tea with him and his wife nattering over this and that while looking northwards over parts of the Atherton Tableland.

  6. M
    I wouldn’t know all that much, to tell you the truth. What is clear is the ASX p/e ratios are well above their long term average.
    Further, the statement, ‘this time it is different’ (usually heard when there is talk of a bubble) is invariably shown by subsequent events to be false.
    Pride cometh before the fall.

  7. Fess

    I received a mortgage when I was 51, with no comment on possible retirement age (after a bit of unwanted aggro because I was a divorced female). After all, the banks are happy to repossess the house if payments can’t be met.

  8. Zali Steggall has released her Climate Change Framework Bill.
    https://www.zalisteggall.com.au/climate_change_national_framework_for_adaptation_and_mitigation_bill_2020

    Oxfam has already made a statement on it:
    “This bill represents the minimum action necessary to bring Australia into line with comparable countries and to get us on the path to zero emissions as soon as possible. It is an important and practical step that deserves support from all sides of politics.

    As parliament resumes after a horrendous summer of extreme weather and bushfires, we welcome this move by Ms Steggall, which is a response to community sentiment to ‘just get on with it’ when it comes to setting the framework required to address the climate crisis.

    Importantly, by beginning a sequence of five-year emissions budgets, guided by independent advice, the bill requires a strengthening of Australia’s existing and woefully inadequate 2030 emissions reduction targets.”

  9. If tolerating systemic racism within policing were the test for the legitimacy of Australian governments of all stripes over the past two and a half centuries, very, very few of them would rate much better than Butti and many governments would have rated far, far worse.

    Take just one example. Under a WA Labor Government, which shows some signs of sensitivity to the issue of policing rates, and a Police Commissioner who has issued a public apology for past policing wrongs, the CURRENT rate of traffic policing of Indigenous drivers is THREE TIMES that of non-Indigenous drivers.
    This statistic refers to being pulled over and questioned and/or tested.

    It does not refer to traffic infringements handed out.

  10. Boerwar @ #773 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:37 am

    lefty e
    Frigging around at the edges, as the Greens have repeatedly demonstrated with their BOPs when they get them, fixes nothing significant for long.
    To do that you need successive majority governments in the House.
    See my response to Guytaur.

    The only reason the Gillard-Milne-Indy govt legislation was repealed was because the Labor party self-destructed and destroyed the Govt.

  11. Mexicanbeemer
    Yes i typically avoid auctions, i mentioned the one before which i attended more as a curiosity. I am a good saver, so deposit isn’t the limiting factor. I’m inclined to think moving further out (hopefully still near a train line) and getting a freehold house might be more sensible than getting something small that could be quickly outgrown if I end up having a family.

  12. Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 12:20 pm

    Rex Douglas @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 9:16 am

    Simon Katich @ #789 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:52 am

    Rex gave Klobuchar the kiss of death yesterday.

    No way!

    I have a high strike rate

    Emma
    Peter Garrett

    I predicted Emma would be ‘managed out’ – tick

    Garrett is still a chance to join the Greens if Bandt and Bob Brown are astute enough to build a bridge.

  13. Rex Douglas @ #817 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 9:24 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 12:20 pm

    Rex Douglas @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 9:16 am

    Simon Katich @ #789 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:52 am

    Rex gave Klobuchar the kiss of death yesterday.

    No way!

    I have a high strike rate

    Emma
    Peter Garrett

    I predicted Emma would be ‘managed out’ – tick

    Garrett is still a chance to join the Greens if Bandt and Bob Brown are astute enough to build a bridge.

    How was she managed out?

    She resigned and then changed her mind.

  14. Rex

    The details of the Gillard/Greens deal are totally unimportant. The upshot demonstrates that:

    REAL, SIGNIFICANT, SUSTAINED CLIMATE IN/ACTION DEPENDS ON HAVING A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE FOR THREE OR FOUR GOVERNMENTS IN A ROW.

    As the Coalition keeps demonstrating.

    The Greens can aspire to frig around at the edges. And they do. I suggest that in the interim you follow Band’s personal lead and take the Greens New Deal CO2 Emissions Strike Pledge and strive to move towards becoming a Greens ZeroHero. Hot does not count. Cutting your personal CO2 emissions does. Here are some handy hints for you to consider. They are NOT enough to get you to ZeroHero, BTW. More will be needed. Much more:

    1. Reduce personal housing footprint to the world average.
    2. Refuse to fly except in emergencies.
    3. Sell car.
    4. Eat low miles, low storage, low refined food, low irrigated foods and low storage energy foods.
    5. Eat no dairy and no beef products.
    6. Wear the same clothes and shoes until they wear out.
    7. Do not use cans. At all.
    8. Stop drinking alcohol. (Chardonnay Socialists will have a crises of conscience here. One bottle = 1.5 kg of CO2 emissions!).
    9. Stop smoking dope. All those lights!
    8. Do not live in houses which use hardwood in construction.
    9. Despatch dogs and cats.

  15. Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #819 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 12:28 pm

    Rex Douglas @ #817 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 9:24 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 12:20 pm

    Rex Douglas @ #811 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 9:16 am

    Simon Katich @ #789 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:52 am

    Rex gave Klobuchar the kiss of death yesterday.

    No way!

    I have a high strike rate

    Emma
    Peter Garrett

    I predicted Emma would be ‘managed out’ – tick

    Garrett is still a chance to join the Greens if Bandt and Bob Brown are astute enough to build a bridge.

    How was she managed out?

    She resigned and then changed her mind.

    When the likes of Joel Fitzgibbon are in the press saying “..her reputation has been now so badly tarnished that it’s not sustainable for her”, the writing is on the wall.

  16. alfred venison:

    i wrote to plibersek & told her i wanted labor to have a conscience vote on this bill & tell albo , too. she’s my rep. greens are coming up strong in her seat, albo’s too. what did you do ? -a.v.

    If you think the bill is good policy, why not ask them to whip the caucus to support it rather than asking for a conscience vote?

  17. The details of the Gillard/Greens deal are totally unimportant. The upshot demonstrates that:

    REAL, SIGNIFICANT, SUSTAINED CLIMATE IN/ACTION DEPENDS ON HAVING A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE FOR THREE OR FOUR GOVERNMENTS IN A ROW.

    The implosion of Labor was catastrophic for the Govt and it’s legislative successes.

    The Gillard-Milne-Indy Govt had all the ingredients to be a long term progressive Govt, but sadly Labor blew it up.

  18. Boerwar:

    [‘I was stunned to learn a few years ago of the number of civil disobedience events in China.’]

    With a population of 1.4B, it’s a wonder how the leaders of China have kept civil disobedience events down to 100,000 per annum. The West thought that with a burgeoning middle-class, there would follow a more democratic China, but it ain’t turned out that way – yet.

    a r:

    [‘Doubt, or don’t doubt?’]

    Let me redo it:

    I’m sure the number of those who’ve contracted the coronavirus in mainland China well exceeds the number reported by the authorities.

    [‘Because it seems implausible that with 1.4 billion people the government is going to be able to identify and confirm every single infection? Especially if it tends to produce milder symptoms in some younger/healthier/luckier cases.’]

    Agree somewhat, though given the under-reporting during the SARS outbreak, there’s reason to believe we’re not getting the full story, possibly predicated on not wanting to panic the proletariat.

    [‘Just as with China’s Sars outbreak that killed 800 people worldwide in 2002-03, the central shortcomings in China’s response have derived from its rigidly hierarchical political system.’]

    https://www.ft.com/content/fa83463a-4737-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

  19. Boerwar @ #821 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 11:34 am

    1. Reduce personal housing footprint to the world average.
    2. Refuse to fly except in emergencies.
    3. Sell car.
    4. Eat low miles, low storage, low refined food, low irrigated foods and low storage energy foods.
    5. Eat no dairy and no beef products.
    6. Wear the same clothes and shoes until they wear out.
    7. Do not use cans. At all.
    8. Stop drinking alcohol. (Chardonnay Socialists will have a crises of conscience here. One bottle = 1.5 kg of CO2 emissions!).
    9. Stop smoking dope. All those lights!
    8. Do not live in houses which use hardwood in construction.
    9. Despatch dogs and cats.

    Clearly intended to be more punitive than actually effective, since this still permits the use of grid electricity and encourages neither domestic renewable-energy generation nor storage/export of same.

    Generating your own clean energy and storing it so that you never have to pull from the grid will (for most people in most places) do far more to reduce personal CO2 emissions than most of your other proposals. Telling that it doesn’t even rate a mention in your list.

  20. There are some beautiful, towering, sunshine bright cumulonimbus clouds aggregating around and about. I hope the bastards don’t get it into their minds to generate some ferocious and destructive thunderstorms.
    #EnoughweatheronPBalready.

  21. Hanson doing her bit for RW nutjobbery:

    Teachers biased on history, climate change, sex: Pauline Hanson

    One Nation Senator will introduce a bill on Monday that seeks to end the “indoctrination” of children in schools – across a broad swathe of topics from climate change to non-traditional sex.

    (Canberra Times headline)

  22. Nauroze Anees @ForLovenFreedom
    · 18h

    @SercoGroup & @AusBorderForce are the MOST SADISTIC orgs in the World, who should be charged with #CrimesAgainstHumanity!

    Today they Cancelled Sarah Ruby’s visit to me, as her clothes tested positive for a drug which dentists use, as she had a dentist’s appt last week!

  23. alfred venison @ #702 Monday, February 10th, 2020 – 10:02 am

    i wrote to plibersek & told her i wanted labor to have a conscience vote on this bill & tell albo , too. she’s my rep. greens are coming up strong in her seat, albo’s too. what did you do ? -a.v.

    Well done !

    I’ve done the same with my local member.

    That’s the best thing to do to try and beat the Lib-Lab parliamentary ‘friends of coal’ cartel that has hijacked Canberra and locked out environmentalists.

  24. Cheryl Kernot
    @cheryl_kernot
    ·
    6m

    “The bill advocates a souped-up independent climate authority — though, crucially, it still leaves government ministers in charge of implementation … bill in effect re-establishes the Climate Change Authority that was abolished by the Abbott government” …via @crikey_news

  25. ar

    Thank your for your kind advice. I have edited the Greens’ ZeroHero Pledge accordingly. Mind you, it is not the actual pathways that matter all that much. It is the End State. It is ensuring that each and every Greens becomes a walking, talking ZeroHero. My list is far from definitive, of course. For example I have not put in planting trees as an offset for the inevitable CO2 emissions leakages.

    What matters is to ensure that when Greens come up with policy advice that disproportionately punishes others, as they have, the Greens have some street cred in the matter which at the moment they totally lack.

    BTW, I am thinking of creating a new category: ‘ZeroHero Gold Star’. That would be for peeps such as myself who sequester more than twice the CO2 emissions we generate.

    Bandt’s ZeroHero Pledge:

    1. Reduce personal housing footprint to the world average.
    2. Refuse to fly except in emergencies.
    3. Sell car.
    4. Eat low miles, low storage, low refined food, low irrigated foods and low storage energy foods.
    5. Eat no dairy and no beef products.
    6. Wear the same clothes and shoes until they wear out.
    7. Do not use cans. At all.
    8. Stop drinking alcohol. (Chardonnay Socialists will have a crises of conscience here. One bottle = 1.5 kg of CO2 emissions!).
    9. Stop smoking dope. All those lights!
    10. Do not live in houses which use hardwood in construction.
    11. Despatch dogs and cats.
    12. Generate and store own energy.

  26. SK
    You are very, very cruel.
    BTW, living cheek by jowl with Common Wombats has enabled me to learn the true meaning behind their facial expressions. I hestitate to hurt some feelings, but your average inner urban non provider of ecosystem services has NO idea about the facial expressions of Common Wombats.
    Anyway, I can assure you that the Common Wombat in your image is considering some of Ms Hanson’s ‘non traditional sex’.

  27. Morrison pandering to the denialists in his MPs. If there are businesses out there who think another coal fired power station is a good idea let them pay for their own feasibility study.

  28. There are no wombats near here. Sadly. The SA state animal has a very small range.

    But where I grew up I remember a local street Christmas cricket match party where I crawled down a burrow to find a wombat – at the request of a bunch of friends. I was a pretty small kid – the only one small and agile and brave enough to do it. The wombat was used to us so took my visit surprisingly well.

  29. https://www.fastcompany.com/90456328/building-with-timber-instead-of-steel-could-help-pull-millions-of-tons-of-carbon-from-the-atmosphere

    Building structures out of wood doesn’t seem like a particularly innovative idea—people have been building wood houses for centuries. But when it comes to new efforts to be sustainable, all-timber construction is the latest advancement. How exactly is a process that requires us to cut down trees more environmentally friendly, though? Sustainable forest management would be crucial, experts say, but if that is part of a global boom in using timber in new constructions, new wood buildings could store up to 700 million tons of carbon a year.

    In a paper published in the journal Nature Sustainability on January 27, experts at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany dig into the potential for timber buildings to act as carbon sinks. Natural carbon sinks, like forests, absorb and capture carbon dioxide from our atmosphere. Timber buildings, the researchers say, could be crucial carbon sinks as the world’s population, and thus urban construction, increases in the coming years.

    Experts have predicted that by 2050, there could be more than 9.5 billion people on Earth, and that 70% of that population will live in urban environments. That means demand for new housing and commercial buildings will grow as well, Galina Churkina, lead author of the Potsdam study, notes in a statement, and the production of cement and steel will continue to be a major source of greenhouse gasses, unless we change the way we build.

    Currently, cement is the source of 8% of global CO2 emissions; more than jet fuel, which accounted for 2.4% of global CO2 emissions in 2018. If we continue to build with concrete and steel, researchers say, the cumulative emissions from these mineral-based construction materials might account for one-fifth of the global CO2 emissions budget up to 2050—a budget, they stress, we can’t exceed if we want to keep warming below two degrees.

  30. Crikey reckons that even Andrew Bolt is admitting that Climate Change is real and human caused.

    “We sceptics can’t go on like this. These bushfires demand we all stop pretending and face the facts. And yes it starts with me. So I admit: the planet has warmed … man’s emissions probably play some role…”
    https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/02/10/andrew-bolt-climate-change-dive/

    That leaves only Scomo and a few die-hards on Pollbludger still trying to deny we need action.

    What happened to Andrew? Did the supply of money from Gina dry up? Did his favourite ski-lodge in the Vic Alps burn down? Or is he just about to switch tactics to: “but its still way too expensive…”?

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