Something new under the sun today from Newspoll, with The Australian ($) publishing the first set of aggregated breakdowns since the election. This would appear to be limited to the new-look poll that was launched last month, which has dropped its telephone component and is now conducted entirely online. Only two results have been published in that time, but there is evidently more behind this poll than that, as the survey period extends back to November 7 and the sample size of 4562 suggests three polling periods rather than two.
The results as published are of interest in providing never-before-seen breakdowns for education level (no tertiary, TAFE/technical or tertiary) and household income (up to $50,000, up to $100,000, up to $150,000, and beyond). Including the first of these as a weighting variable promises to address difficulties pollsters may have been having in over-representing those with good education and high levels of civic engagement. However, the poll gives with one hand and takes with the other, in that it limits the state breakdowns are limited to New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland. And it falls well short of the promised new age of pollster transparency, providing no detail on how the various sub-categories have been weighted.
The state breakdowns suggest either that Labor has recovered slightly in Queensland since the election, or that polling is still struggling to hit the mark there. The Coalition is credited with a two-party lead of 55-45, compared with 58.4-41.6 at the election. Their primary vote is 40%, down from 43.7%, with Labor up from 26.7% to 29%, One Nation up from 8.9% to 13%, and the Greens up from 10.3% to 12%. The Coalition lead in New South Wales is 51-49, compared with 51.8-48.2 at the election, from primary votes of Coalition 42% (42.5%), Labor 35% (34.6%) and Greens 10% (8.7%). Labor’s lead in Victoria is 53-47, barely different from the election result of 53.1-46.9, from primary votes of Coalition 40% (38.6%), Labor 38% (36.9%) and Greens 12% (11.9%).
Age breakdowns consist of four cohorts rather than the old three, and tell a globally familiar story of Labor dominating among the 18-to-34s with a lead of 57-43, while the 65-plus cohort goes 61-39 the other way. In between are a 50-50 from 35-49s and 51-49 to the Coalition among 50-64s. The primary votes are less radical than the recent findings of the Australian Election Study survey: the primary votes among the young cohort are Coalition 34%, Labor 35% and Greens 22%, compared with 37%, 23% and 28% respectively in the AES.
Reflecting polling in Britain, there is little distinction in the balance of major party support between the three education cohorts (UPDATE: actually not so – I was thinking of social class, education was associated with Labor support), contrary to the traditional expectation that the party of the working class would do best among those with no tertiary education. The Coalition instead leads 52-48 among both that cohort and the university-educated, with Labor leading 51-49 among those with TAFE or other technical qualifications. However, household income breakdowns are more in line with traditional expectation, with Labor leading 53-47 at the bottom end, the Coalition leading 51-49 in the lower-middle, and the Coalition leading 58-42 in both of the upper cohorts.
Leadership ratings turn up a few curiosities, such as Scott Morrison rating better in Victoria (46% on both approval and disapproval) than New South Wales (41% and 51%) and Queensland (43% and 51%). Conversely, Anthony Albanese is stronger in his home state of New South Wales (41% and 40%) than Victoria (37% and 42%) and Queensland (35% and 49%).
BK
Oh good, I wasn’t sure what to do. Cheers.
BK @ #298 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 6:11 am
May we please have details of this fabulous new (hot of the shelf) device ❓
Sankew. 🙏☕
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/criminal-liability-call-for-aged-care/news-story/314d0cf2197a16cb185ca81f33ed20cf
Interesting article. Its a very complex area with no easy answers.
lizzie @ #297 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 6:07 am
I had a look at this item a little earlier this morning.
The obvious question to ask is —
What is the appropriate dress code for the action involved and what was his wife wearing ❓
Apart from that I’m not in favour of the action taken by the gentleman concerned.
KayJay, i have seen the devastation a fox can do to a coop full of chooks and if i catch one trying to get at my girls it will end up the same way.
KayJay
I can see the picture.
Hears squawking from hen house in the night, grabs nearest garment to cover his nakedness, rushes out to find trapped fox, no gun, no poisoned dart available.
His mistake was to post it on SM.
Mark Sterlson
So have I. Had to give up chooks. I suppose the problem is that they’re not introduced vermin in England.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Dana McCauley reports that a Sydney hospital allegedly offered a $500 incentive to boost private patient “conversions” and trained staff to sign consent forms on behalf of patients too sick to pick up a pen. Between this sort of behaviour and that of certain rapacious specialists our health system is being hurt.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/hospital-accused-of-training-staff-to-sign-private-patient-forms-to-boost-revenue-20191226-p53mzw.html
Nick Bonyhady explains how draft legislation released on Christmas Eve would force APRA and ASIC to share information and tell each other about potential breaches of the law.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/regulators-forced-to-work-more-closely-together-under-new-laws-20191226-p53mxp.html
Tony Windsor exclaims that this drying continent can’t afford Adani’s pipeline to 12.5 billion litres of precious water.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-drying-continent-can-t-afford-adani-s-pipeline-to-12-5-billion-litres-of-precious-water-20191208-p53hvm.html
Psychologist Amanda Jeffreys says that this summer might well break some of our regional populations. They need help, she says.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/we-need-help-will-this-summer-break-regional-populations-20191226-p53mx7.html
Nine Entertainment Co has criticised Facebook after a fake advertisement impersonating the media company’s masthead The Sydney Morning Herald surfaced on the social media website promoting a fake iPhone giveaway. Honestly, Facebook is s blight!
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/scams-impersonating-the-sydney-morning-herald-surface-20191224-p53mpg.html
Daniel McNamara, who has worked on a number of campaigns, says that the future for Labor is in the cities, not the blue collar regional mirage. He might be on the money with this advice.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/labor-stop-chasing-the-blue-collar-regional-mirage-your-future-is-in-the-cities-20191216-p53kde.html
The “awful lot” of text message reports Barnaby Joyce sent Scott Morrison as drought envoy will remain secret, with the prime minister’s office rejecting a freedom of information request to release the documents. Effin’ hopeless!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/27/pms-office-refuses-to-release-drought-reports-barnaby-joyce-says-he-sent-via-text
The New South Wales government is poised to privatise the state’s plantation forests as part of a fresh round of sale and lease arrangements in 2020 to fund ambitious infrastructure projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/27/nsw-poised-to-privatise-state-forests-to-raise-1bn-for-infrastructure-projects
Tackling deep-seated ageism is one of the great challenges of this century. The impacts on people, on the workforce, on the broader economy are real and need immediate action from the government writes Patricia Sparrow.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-country-s-biggest-health-crisis-is-a-ticking-time-bomb-20191208-p53hvs.html
Sam Maiden reveals that the resort has confirmed that Morrison upgraded to a $3174-a-night villa on his Fiji holiday.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/12/26/pm-declares-fiji-upgrades/
Jenna Price is more than a bit ambivalent about the new Kylie Minogue tourism ad.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/when-kylie-became-the-white-queen-of-matesong-20191226-p53myx.html
The Canberra Times urges the government to not make bushfire policy on the run.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6558049/dont-make-bushfire-policy-on-the-run/?cs=14258
More than 140 applications to die have been made by terminally ill Victorians since voluntary assisted dying laws came into force on June 19.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/five-applications-to-die-lodged-each-week-under-state-s-euthanasia-laws-20191226-p53mxr.html
Chip Le Grand reports that Simon Overland was warned using Nicola Gobbo as a witness in a murder case could taint high-profile convictions and result in her suing Victoria Police.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/gobbo-handlers-made-prescient-warning-of-law-suits-unsafe-convictions-20191226-p53myu.html
Mike Foley tells us about Littleproud’s bushfire inquiry while some describe it as a stunt.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/political-stunt-federal-government-launches-bushfire-inquiry-to-probe-state-policy-20191223-p53mh3.html
Republican US Senator Lisa Murkowski has said she was “disturbed” by the Senate leader’s approach to working with White House counsel on the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, saying there should be distance between the two.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/26/trump-impeachment-lisa-murkowski-disturbed-by-mitch-mcconnells-stance
“Arseholes of the Week” nomination goes to the operators of The Vales nursing home in SA for this appalling effort!
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2019/12/26/christmas-lunch-nursing-home/
Cartoon Corner
From Matt Golding.
Andrew Dyson and the future for some farmers.
Mark David with a return.
A ripper from Alan Moir.
+
Johannes Leak does it again!
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/5b88523f8db1ee0d81eae483a16b5a7d?width=1024
From the US
Lizzie, sorry to hear that as i find chooks to be amusing creatures and not only do i get eggs but the manure is great for the garden. And to the fox being native to England i have no idea if they are or not.
lizzie @ #304 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:04 am
Mark Sterlson @ #303 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:02 am
Appropriately chastened I retreat to my position of …………. (missionary I suppose) and venture back to watering my pot plants.
So far I have watered four or five plus a leaking hose connector dripped into my quality designer left slipper, soaking my sock and reminding me that I should perhaps wait for the movie regarding events such as those described.
Lizzie, you are a wonder. You have plucked from the night miasma the fact that Lawyer Z does not sleep in his wife’s gear, but slumbers au naturel. The movie could take advantage of this, hiring Mr. Whatsisname (he (ex MP) of the ladies frillies) as a wardrobe director.
Back to fix the hose connectors.🌷 💐🥀
Dawn Patrol.. Yea ❗
KayJay
Lenovo IdeaPad S340 15.6-inch i5-1035G1/8GB/256GB SSD Laptop
This was the best available with good processor, SSD, good sized screen and 1920 resolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uWhV1rB9A
The whole Gobbo inquiry is being run with the intensity of afternoon tea and scones
Ahhh, if only.
BK @ #309 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:18 am
Sounds good. The ✔ solid state drive ✔ – Windows 10 ✔ preloaded. Good for just about anything (maybe not the huge 3d games).
BK @ #308 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 4:13 am
And yet some (a very small minority admittedly) advocate for Adani going ahead, because it will apparently win truckloads of votes in Queensland.
When this disaster in waiting becomes common knowledge, or worse when it becomes a full blown disaster, anyone who gave this the green light will be tarred and feathered electorally speaking. Perhaps even literally.
Rick Wilson’s boxing day message to his fellow Americans :
Rick WilsonVerified account @TheRickWilson
All Merry? All bright? Lovely family time?
Good.
Let’s get back to work. There’s a Republic to save from a madman.
With hindsight (a very popular ability at the moment, apparently), I think it’s worth revisiting this biting piece by Jenna Price from Dec 12, before ScoMo took his “can’t disappoint the family” leave.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/the-incredible-telling-difference-between-ardern-and-morrison-20191212-p53jd8.html
Encourage tourists?
BK,
You’ve got yourself a good laptop there. They must be solid workhorses because I noticed the guys in the Telstra shop using them the other day. And they get constant use!
lizzie @ #319 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:43 am
Honestly, nice and all as she is, I think Kylie will hardly sell Australia to the Brits. Well, to the younger Brit Backpackers anyway. She’s more a Gen X icon.
“Morrison used fear and uncertainty and a scrappy handful of ideas…”
Jenna Price forgot to mention the lies.
Danama Papers,
And a Queensland state LNP government comes with added land clearing! Voting is not a purity test. In Queensland they have decided they want bad or badder. They probably all idolise George Thoroughgood as well. 😉
Trump Rips ‘Crazy Nancy’ Hours After His Christmas-Morning Call for Unity
President Trump couldn’t even keep up the charade for a day. Hours after a Christmas-morning statement calling for respect and unity, he was banging out rage-filled tweets targeting his political rival. It was a fast turnaround, even for Trump, whose insincere nod to civility was as real as flying reindeer.
In the “Presidential Message on Christmas,” released Wednesday by the White House, Trump said, “Together, we must strive to foster a culture of deeper understanding and respect — traits that exemplify the teachings of Christ.”
The Christmas-morning statement was clearly phony, and by that evening, Trump proved it. “
Why should Crazy Nancy Pelosi, just because she has a slight majority in the House, be allowed to Impeach the President of the United States? Got ZERO Republican votes, there was no crime, the call with Ukraine was perfect, with “no pressure.” She said it must be “bipartisan…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 26, 2019
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trump-rips-crazy-nancy-just-after-christmas-call-for-unity.html
Steve777 @ #324 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:46 am
And the effective fakebook memes.
Danama Papers
I’m looking forward to it becoming a “full blown disaster”. No amount of weasel words, pork barreling , clever accounting or Murdoch press will be able to hide the reality .
Remember David Elliot? NSW Liberal Minister for Police and Emergency Services, including the Fire Brigade and Rural Fire Services, was previously best known for road-raging an 18 year old for cutting him off, and impersonating a police officer during the unsavoury event.
Well now he has shown the ‘tin ear’ emblematic of his party, which may broaden his fame.
By SAHAR MOURAD FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA and AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 01:36 AEDT, 27 December 2019 | UPDATED: 02:27 AEDT, 27 December 2019
The Emergency Services minister will travel to Europe for a family holiday amid the bushfire crisis – less than a week after Scott Morrison apologised for his trip to Hawaii.
David Elliot, the MP for Baulkham Hills in western Sydney, and his wife will jet off to London and France, but he said his mind will be on the communities affected by the ferocious fires while he’s away.
‘Bushfire-affected communities and firefighters are always at the front of my mind during this difficult time in NSW,’ he told The Daily Telegraph.
‘I have toured over a dozen fire lines in the past six weeks and, together with the Premier and the Commonwealth, we have announced more than $88 million in recovery assistance to bushfire affected communities.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7827855/Emergency-services-minister-David-Elliot-fly-London-week-PMs-Hawaii-trip.html
phoenixRED,
Trump sounding like a cornered rat.
sprocket_
David Elliott must be Gladys’ muscle. I can’t think of any other reason for her to keep supporting him. And her conduit to the pubs and clubs.
For those keen to understand what has happened in the Democratic Presidential nomination campaign so far.
Absolutely, nothing!
Gabriel Debenedetti
@gdebenedetti
RCP average, 12/19/19:
Biden – 27.8
Sanders – 19.3
RCP average, 12/19/18:
Biden – 27.5
Sanders – 19.0
happy almost 2020!
Blogs active 27 December 2019
John Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.)
Obviously doesn’t believe in climate change and is upset that the reserve bank is working out the exposure Australian banks will have to assets that are going to be stranded. On about it again today.
http://australian-politics.blogspot.com/
Michael Smith News ( to right wing for 2UE)
Link to Kylie Advert
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com
NY Times perspective on Biden’s strength..
CRESTON, Iowa — The voters at campaign events for Joseph R. Biden Jr. here in Iowa and across the country aren’t just shopping for a candidate for themselves.
As they jostle to take pictures with the former vice president and listen to him preach about national unity, they are often thinking about someone else — a dad, a neighbor or a colleague. They consider the political leanings of people close to them who are uncomfortable with the most liberal presidential contenders, but who hate the chaos of the Trump era and are receptive to the kind of centrist, seasoned candidacy Mr. Biden offers.
Some Democrats have been warning the party not to obsess over these potential swing voters, arguing that electability calculations about mythical undecided moderates are futile at this moment of extreme political polarization.
But for many Biden supporters, those voters are their Republican-leaning relatives and friends. And their perspectives are an increasingly prominent consideration as the Iowa caucuses near.‘
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/25/us/politics/joe-biden-2020-republicans.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
On the Overland train about to depart Adelaide for Melbourne. It will be discontinued after 132 years on Dec 31 due to liberal cuts.
C@tmomma @ #323 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 4:48 am
I’m fully aware that the Libs will be far worse than anything Labor can do. My “tar and feathering” comment is just as applicable to them as it is to Labor, or any other party that promotes it.
Having said that, I very much doubt the Greens will get any benefit from their opposition to it in those regions. Not until the current generation(s) are replaced at least. So, a long way off by which time it’ll be too late.
sprocket_
What a lazy bastard . Not making the effort of an “and prayers” to go with his “thoughts” .
Tony Windsor exclaims that this drying continent can’t afford Adani’s pipeline to 12.5 billion litres of precious water.
<a href="https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-drying-continent-can-t-afford-adani-s-pipeline-to-12-5-billion-litres-of-precious-water-20191208-p53hvm.html"
Finally someone mentions why Adani should not go ahead. Has nothing to do with exporting mining jobs to Indonesia. Pity the Greens have done such a good job of hiding the real reason.
poroti @ #326 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 4:49 am
Will it actually change their voting habits though?
Danama Papers @ #336 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 7:59 am
Sad, but true. And we’ll see what Scrote announces next month in India to add to the horror. Therefore, my only hope is to keep fighting for Labor state governments in Queensland and, hopefully, in 2022, a federal one as well.
Torchbearer, fun fact in railway circles the overland is known as the overdue!
It’s both ironic and a tragedy that we pride ourselves on a health system that enables us to live longer, but the greater number of older citizens has been regarded as a burden since Peter Costello looked at some statistics. Now the LNP is reducing as much Aged funding as it can. Perhaps they’re secretly hoping we’ll all die off.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-country-s-biggest-health-crisis-is-a-ticking-time-bomb-20191208-p53hvs.html
Oh look more Laborites partisan BS about Adani and water
Not that facts count here but here’s QLD Labor caving in June to give Adani billions of litres of free water after pressuring scientists to get it done
Pathetic
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/13/adani-cleared-to-start-carmichael-coalmine-work-as-groundwater-plans-approved
Quoll being simplistic and abusive. Again.
Keep those votes rolling in for the LNP in Queensland, Quoll! 🙄
Cud,
[Exploding Cow]()
😉
BK, Emma Chizit?
C@t
No! That’s cruel to cow-lovers.
From the “What Could Possibly Go Wrong Department”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/27/nsw-poised-to-privatise-state-forests-to-raise-1bn-for-infrastructure-projects
No doubt by “infrastructure” they mean more roads.
lizzie
What is the Urban Wronski tweet referring to ?
C@tmomma @ #340 Friday, December 27th, 2019 – 8:22 am
Just another goldfish of PB. Forgets that she said the same thing yesterday and the day before and the day before.
Fun fact: Did you know goldfish are a carp? Seems appropriate imho.
poroti
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/27/pms-office-refuses-to-release-drought-reports-barnaby-joyce-says-he-sent-via-text