As related by The Australian, the third Newspoll since the fall is unchanged on the second, conducted three weeks ago, in showing the Coalition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The primary votes are Coalition 43% (41.4% at the election), Labor 35% (33.4%), Greens 12% (10.4%) and One Nation 5% (3.1%, although they did not contest every seat at the election). All four are up a point compared with the previous poll, reflected in a four point drop in “others” to 5%. I’m struggling to identify the last time Newspoll had the Greens at 12% – certainly not at any point in the last term (UPDATE: It was in March 2016).
Scott Morrison is up a point on approval to 49%, after dropping three points last time, and his disapproval is up three to 39%, which is still three down on the first poll after the election. Anthony Albanese records a net negative rating for the first time, being down six on approval to 35% (after gaining two last time), and up six on disapproval to 40% (after dropping two last time). Morrison’s preferred prime minister lead is reportedly at 20%, compared with 18% last time, although the exact numbers are not yet provided (UPDATE: Morrison’s lead has increased from 48-30 to 48-28).
The poll comes with a glimmer of improved transparency, in that we are told exactly how many respondents came from its online survey (956) and automated phone poll (705) components. It was conducted from Thursday to Sunday.
I would rather see L’arse lighten his YoungLib mysoginy elsewhere. Piss off, Cobber!
nath and LVT
The Axis of Assholes
sprocket_ @ #397 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:14 pm
Yes, nights here are rabid with those two.
TPOF/Sprocket – Go in peace and sin no more! I forgive you your dull and abusive posts!
C@t, they get their jollies here because we, regrettably, react to the juveniles.
Boerwar @ #352 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 4:56 pm
Then why have you made up all the figures quoted above? “Say” wouldn’t pass any audit or even pub test.
If you can’t be bothered looking up actual numbers, perhaps you should refrain from making shit up.
The sad part about you making these numbers up, is in a day or so they will be accepted by you and your follower as being real numbers.
sprocket_ @ #404 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:23 pm
True. Back in the box then for them, with their supercilious mate, mundo.
Perhaps a Bonking Tory story will lighten the mood?
ESJ’s description ‘useful idiot’ has just been overtaken by Mundo’s ‘mad as a cut snake’.
Danama papers
The 40,000 comes from some fact check or other.
The $5 billion plus is publicly available information.
A cost of $100,000 per job is a reasonable estimate.
An estimate of .5 of an indirect job for each direct job is a reasonable estimate.
The net result is a conservative total.
My general points stand:
1. These are the people who put Morrison into power.
2. Assuming that these people are going to be glad to fall on their personal economic swords so that the Greens can continue to enjoy their accustomed standard of living is probably a very bad political assumption to make.
3. If the Greens have a better set of numbers they should come out with them. On real figures from the Greens I have some advice for you: Don’t hold your breath.
If one were to believe* Adani boosters, the multiplier for the indirect jobs from coal mining is something like 20.
* which no sensible person would
Very sad on the passing of Danny Frawley.
He was involved in single vehicle accident, which always makes me ponder.
RIP
…then you have “useless idiots”. Many get elected.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/09/no-deal-brexit-not-clean-break-irish-pm-leo-varadkar-boris-johnson
Johnson will have to deal with reality eventually….or reality will dispense with him.
We were talking with a group of septuagenarians the other day. Most of us are carrying an increasing number and variety of conditions that will never be cured and can only be managed. Much management can be done in the home, through exercise and diet behaviours and through medications. But there are more and more condition and they require more and more attention from various medical providers.
I find it difficult to see how the current systems are going to cope with the Boomer Bulge.
“…then you have “useless idiots”. Many get elected.”
But….dont you find it comforting to know that atolls float?? 🙂
imacca
Whatever floats your atoll?
Boerwar says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:44 pm
We were talking with a group of septuagenarians the other day. Most of us are carrying an increasing number and variety of conditions that will never be cured and can only be managed. Much management can be done in the home, through exercise and diet behaviours and through medications. But there are more and more condition and they require more and more attention from various medical providers.
I find it difficult to see how the current systems are going to cope with the Boomer Bulge.
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Are you advocating euthanasia for the non-productive elder folk?
‘LVT
Are you advocating euthanasia for the non-productive elder folk?’
You first?
Lars Von Trier @ #417 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:46 pm
The way this Government are going I reckon we’ll soon get a full on media campaign advising the elderly that it’s their duty to die.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tommy-robinson-boris-johnson-brexit-corbyn-eu-telegram-post-a9097256.html
The racist Pop-Right in the UK align themselves with Johnson. Brexit is a reactionary project…pure and simple…
It does seem likely in the near future if a person wants to check out they will be able to do it legally in most States. The extent to which this is voluntary and how much Nanna will be “encouraged” to go is debatable.
GG
They will be issued with personal choice coupons administered by a group of ex Liberal/National Party shonks who siphon most of the profit for their cronies but who make sure there is a nice little line of kickbacks…. er donations… to the Liberal and National Party coffers.
Nice work if you can get it.
Boerwar @ #409 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 6:32 pm
Oh really. Some fact check or other?
Then why did you need to “say” it. Provide a link.
Probaly.
Reasonable? This isn’t the car industry we’re talking about. There are no ancilliary businesses to coal mining that aren’t actually working on the mine site.
The net result qwould never pass an audit, or even a pub test.
Probably. They will never vote for the Greens anyway. Nor is it likely they’ll ever vote for Labor either.
Terrific. So, the rest of the world burns to a crisp but we mustn’t upset these Lib/Nat voters from their cushy lifestyles. Fuck everyone else, but we must pamper these people.
How’s this for a number, 5 degrees Celsius added to the world’s temperatures? That number will render any dollar or workforce numbers, whether they’re real or made up like yours, as irrelevant tosh.
Oh, and BTW, all, I repeat ALL of those jobs are going to be automated sooner or later anyway. Probably sooner.
So, instead of posting Liberal/National Party/Minerals Council/IPA talking points as you’re doing, how about focusing on the only number that matters? 5 degrees Celsius.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with c&t’s comment and I didn’t even consider it could be offensive. Necrotising arachnidism is completely unrelated to necrotising fasciitis and it’s never fatal.
I saw lots of people diagnosed with spider bites causing necrosis but it was always a scapegoat diagnosis. They had almost never seen or felt a spider bite them.
Danama Papers
Most amusing.
If you are interested you go ahead and do the work on the numbers so that the Greens have something ‘real’ to get on with.
They might even get a surprise.
Be assured that I am ready to critique!
Boerwar @ #422 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:55 pm
I reckon Morrison, as a marketing man, will be all over Huxley’s “Brave new World”.
Dio
I am wondering what your views on the impact of the Boomer Bulge on health systems is going to be.
Boerwar says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:58 pm
Danama Papers
Most amusing.
If you are interested you go ahead and do the work on the numbers so that the Greens have something ‘real’ to get on with.
They might even get a surprise.
Be assured that I am ready to critique!
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Have you been having private conversations with your octopus again?
First Dog’s guide to Brexit: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/09/brexit-a-few-tiny-things-stand-between-remainaggedon-and-the-uk-bravely-leaving-the-eu
Knock it off, just-about-everybody.
Comres has published a UK outing intentions poll today which includes a 119 page PDF with comprehensive question details, demographics and methodology. We may flog the Poms at cricket, but they are flogging us on polling.
https://www.comresglobal.com/polls/britain-elects-voting-intention-election-scenarios-and-brexit-polling-september-2019/
And a trend is emerging towards the LibDems…
“imacca
Whatever floats your atoll?”
Easy one that! Wilful ignorance of basic physics and the power of wishful thinking. 🙂
Honestly, i think the intellectual giant of the Liberal Party that is Craig Kelly may have seen that article on the large raft of pumice kicking currently around the south pacific and joined the dots. 🙂
‘Da Papers
Oh, and BTW, all, I repeat ALL of those jobs are going to be automated sooner or later anyway. Probably sooner.’
50,000 of those jobs are based on state governments spending their $5 billion in royalties on jobs @ $100,000 per job.
Anyway, you KNOW for SURE how many jobs are going to go. Just do the maths so that we can all have a look at your wonderful labour market expertise.
BTW, this DOES enable you to avoid the obvious. Morrison did not ignore the obvious. It is why he is the Prime Minister.
Enjoy!
Boerwar @ #425 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 6:58 pm
What’s your plan to protect these pampered Lib/Nat voting coal miners lifestyles when ALL of their jobs are automated.
Since you’re so concerned with them, I’m sure you have a plan.
BB
I worked at BH hospital for about seven years (two days a month). That was about seven years ago. I probably wasn’t immersed in the culture of the hospital but I didn’t think it was an unpleasant place to work. Not in the same league as the notorious departments at the RAH.
imacca
He probably cocked up the notion that the coral on some atolls can grow fast enough to keep pace with some rising sea levels.
Danama Papers
I don’t. Nobody does. The Greens don’t and they are the ones who are making a virtue of destroying those jobs.
It is why the people in those jobs voted for the Coalition. They are not stupid.
Fair enough Dio. If you didn’t find it offensive then perhaps I over-reacted but that’s how I felt. My apologies to C@t in this instance.
4Corners tonight is a reason no one should vote LNP.
Steve77
Fancy calling the UK PM an “angry pudding with shredded cheese on top”???? 🙂
Knock it off, just-about-everybody.
I’d like it acknowledged that this had NOTHING AT ALL to do with me.
William
No worries.
TPOF
PB after dark or PBAD.
A bad habit!
swamprat
sauve qui peut?
https://www.yourdictionary.com/sauve-qui-peut
Danama Papers says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:55 pm
Oh really. Some fact check or other
5 degrees or no….Queensland thermal coal exports contribute about 0.18% of global GHG emissions at their point of combustion. Even if the existing industry were abolished tonight and even if the Galilee is never developed, nothing that happens in the Queensland coal provinces is going to change the trajectory of climate change. Nothing. By all means do things to avert climate change. But try to do things that will actually make a difference. Give an actual shit. Try to do something useful.
And she received nothing but meaningless drivel in response.
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1171006846892535809
Sorry to be more clear. 4 Corners tonight is what happens when you freeze funding Medicare. It’s not just GP dr visits that get affected.
Re Sprocket @9:02 – the Brexit Party vote seems to be folding back into the Conservatives, rather like the One Nation vote has folded back into the Coalition vote a couple of times after breaking out over here. Maybe Boris Johnson is “addressing their concerns”, as did Howard for One Nation voters here.
4 Corners is heartbreaking 🙁