The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll again comes up empty on voting intention, but it does offer the pollster’s third set of leadership ratings since the election. As with Newspoll, these record a drop in Scott Morrison’s net approval rating, owing to a three point rise in disapproval to 37%, while his approval holds steady at 48%. However, Essential parts company with Newspoll in finding Anthony Albanese up on disapproval as well, by five points to 29%, with approval down one to 38%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows slightly, from 44-26 to 44-28.
Further questions suggest the public leans positive on most aspects of the “influence of the United States of America” (defence, trade, cultural and business), excepting a neutral result (42% positive, 40% negative) for influence on Australian politics. The same exercise for China finds positive results for trade, neutral results for culture and business, and negative ones for defence and politics. Asked which of the two we would most benefit from strengthening ties with, 38% of respondents favoured the US and 28% China.
The small sample of respondents from New South Wales were also asked about the proposed removal of abortion from the criminal code, which was supported by an overwhelming 71% compared with 17% opposed. The poll has a sample of 1096 and was conducted online from Thursday to Sunday.
Note also the post below this one, being the latest Brexit update from Adrian Beaumont.
adrian @ #699 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 2:58 pm
He’s spending so much time on here lately one can only assume he’s been defeated by the wombats he’s declared war on. If only he’d spent all his money on a bow and arrow instead of all that military hardware he loves he could’ve shown those pesky wombats who’s the boss. 😀
Our suave, sophisticated PM in action.
I am obsessed with Morrison, but.
The bastard is wrecking the joint.
Maybe it was nuts that Jennie was chewing?
You learn something every day. Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland at about the same time, by agreement!
https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/08/22/hidden-history-the-nazi-soviet-pact-which-russia-now-tries-t
phylactella
I blame Molotov and Ribbentrop.
lizzie @ #702 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:10 pm
In casual conversation – simply mentioning the word “castration ” tends to have the “gentlemen” adopting a “clutching the crutch ” pose.
Quite different to the gunfighter pose where the fingers point to the area of insecutity/insufficiency.
Anyone for cricket ❓
To shake a lot of Australians out of their complacency as I see, an economic crisis needs to occur. Something like a collapse in the housing market, leading to the banks facing the brink of failure, which will result in them being bailed out and harsh austerity imposed to pay for that bank bailout.
At the same time Australia enters an economic depression where official unemployment rises to 20% or more. Also governments both state and federal, deal with the wave of protests by tear gassing, tasering protesters and even calling out the Army onto the streets.
I am very convinced all this will occur in the next say five years. Because I am seriously making preparations for all this to occur.
https://onecalgaryvoter.com/2019/08/22/exclusive-international-fraud-corruption-scandal-brewing/
Right. The mining of coal contributes 5% of Australian GHG emissions. From the way the Lib-kin campaign, we’d be entitled to think it was 95% and that by itself the cessation of mining in Queensland alone could prevent global heating.
On their own numbers, the Lib-kin cannot claim that mining is causally related to the harm caused by climate change to the GBR.
The impact of mining for coal in all Australian jurisdictions by itself cannot account for global warming. The emissions that result from combustion drive global warming and are so-called Scope 3 emissions. They are demand driven, not supply driven. We need to focus our effort on things that will work rather than on things that are politically expedient.
One just for Dan and Adrian and Peg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OifIFta2C-E
lizzie @ #700 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:05 pm
Relevence deprivation syndrome?
Tristo says:
Friday, August 23, 2019 at 5:19 pm
To shake a lot of Australians out of their complacency as I see, an economic crisis needs to occur. Something like a collapse in the housing market, leading to the banks facing the brink of failure, which will result in them being bailed out and harsh austerity imposed to pay for that bank bailout.
1. If there’s a crisis it will drive voters to the right.
2. If the banks have to bailed out there will be no need for austerity. The RBA would be able to expand its balance sheet at will and absorb the banks before selling them back to the market. The RBA would make a profit on it.
On your best behaviour now boys and girls.
The dude with the yellow and red cards must be due anytime now.
All together now —
Hymn number 43 “Shall We Gather at the River ❓ ”
Not the Murray/Darling
The beautiful, the beautiful, the river…….
Adrian
“The tweet I quoted asked a valid question, and you might ask yourself why the US is manufacturing a conflict with Iran, to which we have inevitably been dragged.”
I missed the context for this comment, but I absolutely agree that this Strait of Hormuz thing is a total concoction. Trump/US, in cahoots with Israel and Saudi Arabia, have fabricated a pretext to stick it to Iran.
I suspect the Australian government is genuinely reluctant to participate in this tinpot operation. But it allows us to show we’re a willing ally of the US by signing up to actions far from the Pacific. This is our cunning plan to avoid having to join any future US-led venture directed against China in the S.China Sea.
briefly @ #710 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:25 pm
You mean, like eliminating our export of coal (not to mention our own use of it) as fast as possible?
Because that is the single largest practical contribution to reducing world-wide greenhouse gas emissions that Australia could possibly make.
KayJay @ #714 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:31 pm
the musically inclined interpret this as “shall we gather at the riffer”.
PO…supplying coal by itself makes no difference to global emissions. None. Zero. Nil.
Burning coal creates emissions. When generators stop burning coal emissions will fall.
This is so obvious it’s extraordinary that it should have to be stated so often and that it’s so easily ignored.
The campaign to disrupt exports is purely political. It will have no impact whatsoever on global heating.
Pegasus says:
Friday, August 23, 2019 at 4:27 pm
Boerwar
Earlier frednk posted:
And where did they birth for the other 70200 years.
When did this birthing start, when the tree was a sapling ?
When did it stop?
As their culture was seriously disrupted, and contains no written records, who says it is a birthing tree?
They were nomadic; did they really come back to a particular spot to give birth or is it just a story invented .
These are probable questions that have been asked.
Given your experience with First Australians, why don’t you respond to his woeful ignorance and set him right?
This really does sum up the where the Greens are at.
If there is no action on climate change humanities entire social structure is at risk, and what is their focus, a 800 year old red gum.
How many people alive where born under this gum tree? Bet you the answer is zero.
Out of curiosity, who know it was a birthing tree? Bet you it was a story made up after too many beers.
Actually how many people knew people went to a particular tree to give birth? I was linked to article that showed how little we know about the culture destroyed, now we know this?
I know google doesn’t know all but type in birthing tree the sum total seems to be one.
First order wanking the environment can no longer afford.
As to the reality.
It’s a red gum.
Red gums live 500 to 1000 years. If the tree is 800 years it is on its last legs. The trunk is hollowed out, won’t last past the next good storm.
When it comes to soaking up CO2 young trees do a better job.
I would be fighting for it not to get burnt.
First order nonsense when there are very significant issues to deal with; issues being blocked by the Greens. Issues that need a solid support be a wide range of people to deal with, not this nonsense.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-labor-boss-and-former-mp-set-to-face-icac-20190823-p52k3n.html
Oh dear!
Very fortunately the rate of growth of coal combustion is falling. The volumes will soon start to decline if they have not already.
This change in trajectory has nothing whatsoever to do with mining or not mining, nor with the Lib-kin campaign. It is driven by the adoption of substitutes.
…down by the riffer side…
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/shortens-was-reason-labor-lost-election-rudd/news-story/b9307b096636d839bf8c87f80393a1e9
And some home truths from former Labor PM Kevin Rudd!
Australian total Scope 1,2,3 emissions are mountainous, especially if the processing of iron ore is included. The gas sector is truly a vast producer of emissions.
But the Lib-kin focus on coal. They are Thatcherite in this respect.
Albert Einstein saw how full employment transfers power to workers:
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/bernie-sanders-green-new-deal-job-guarantee-unemployment
A new take on eating your greens.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EComkBJUEAIfqJ7?format=jpg&name=large
briefly @ #718 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:38 pm
I thought we had gotten you over this nonsense. Just mining the coal makes a difference. Transporting it makes a difference. Burning it makes a difference. Even disposing of the waste makes a difference.
Anyone who can say with a straight face that “coal by itself makes no difference to global emissions” either works for the fossil fuel industry, or just has zero clue 🙁
Nicholas @ #725 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:49 pm
Einstein also invented the theory of relatives which never persuaded me much.
“a calmness has descended upon Canberra since Morrison knifed Mal…calm because Parl has met 10 times in 365”
Greensborough Growler @ #726 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 5:49 pm
“Soylent Green is people!”
@briefly
Correction an economic crisis, will make many voters flock to the extreme right. Scott Morrison would definitely in response move his government even further to the right. Since Morrison is capable of going full on Trumpian (minus Trump’s erratic behavior) if he thought it would be politically profitable. The evidence is certainly there, since Morrison was reported to arguing for the Coalition to adopt an anti-Muslim strategy back in 2011. Also I am confident we would have had a race based election last May, if the Christchurch shooting had not happened.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-sees-votes-in-anti-muslim-strategy-20110216-1awmo.html
PO…stop verballing me.
Face it. The demand to cease coal mining – by itself – is pointless. In particular, mining is not causally connected to the harm done by GHG to the GBR. There’s a lot more to it than the Lib-kin make out. Their campaign even if it succeeded would not change anything. It is therefore just a stunt carried out for political reasons at the expense of coal miners.
Not Kaila! Say its not so!
Einstein knew labour repression when he saw it.
This is a deliberate policy of the Reactionaries – Reactionaries who are kept in power in this country by the Lib-kin.
I’m on the same page as Albert. Good.
Tristo….then why do you hope for an economic crisis??
The ALP fanatics were telling us that Rudd and Gillard’s presence at the ALP campaign launch showed that they liked Shorten. Wrong. Rudd was after Shortens’ endorsement for UN Secretary General. Gillard wanted to be Governor General. This was how Shorten was going to make it up to them both for knifing them.
Now Rudd says that Shortens policy was nuts and that the Australian public “didn’t like him or trust him”.
Truth in defeat.
briefly @ #732 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 6:00 pm
I would suggest you stop posting on a subject you clearly know very little about.
@briefly
For real change in this nation to occur, I am increasingly believing the populace need to endure a lot of pain, before the great majority of people wake up.
Another bit of bad luck for Clive Palmer in court today!
https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/people-entertainment/2019/08/23/clive-palmer-brisbane-court/
Tristo says:
Friday, August 23, 2019 at 6:06 pm
@briefly
For real change in this nation to occur, I am increasingly believing the populace need to endure a lot of pain, before the great majority of people wake up.
Yet you think a crisis will move opinion to the Right. I agree with that. This has been the usual response in Australia of voters to economic stress.
Your argument does not make sense unless you hope for a Rightist result.
Listening to Kevin Rudd today, he certainly slapped around Malcolm Turnbull for insulting the Comrades – and diplomatically, said ‘so far’ Morrison looked better than the hopeless ‘hairy chested’ Malcolm.
He also said why he thought Labor lost the election. And I will try to repeat what he actually said, not what nath is trying to verbal. nath obviously hasn’t studied the bible verses I gave him last night.
So the Ruddster’s take had 3 reasons:
1. The Australian people, rightly or wrongly, didn’t warm to Bill Shorten. Rightly or wrongly.
2. Trying to adjust retirement taxes and policies from Opposition is fraught with danger, as they can be easily turned into a scare campaign. These adjustments are best done from government, where changes can be explained better.
3. The anti Labor campaign from the Murdoch Press was relentless, the worst he had ever seen.
@briefly
Actually the end result of all this, if it actually happens in my opinion, will be a Eco-socialist Revolution initiated by Generation Zers and lesser extent Millennial’s. Because the people are going to tolerate only so much Corporate Fascism, especially those generations.
And here is 9fax’s take on what Rudd said, selectively quoting also, but with more balance than nath..
By Dana McCauley
August 23, 2019 — 3.52pm
Former prime minister Kevin Rudd has lashed members of the Liberal party for whipping up national “hysteria” over China, describing outspoken backbencher Andrew Hastie as “post-pubescent” and warning of a descent into “neo-McCarthyism”.
Mr Rudd said Mr Hastie’s recent comments had poured “a whole lot of petrol” onto what has always been “a complex and difficult relationship” between Australia and its largest trading partner, while blaming former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull for tensions.
“I’m always cautious about post-pubescent politicians … or pre-pubescent in his case, I’m not sure, the best way to make a name for yourself within the raging beast of Australian conservatism is to whack the Chinese on the head,” Mr Rudd told the Canberra Writers Festival on Friday.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/rudd-slams-post-pubescent-liberal-politicians-over-china-hysteria-20190823-p52k2b.html
Given today’s potential Rudd/Abbott reconciliation, and given Labor’s shambolic disarray on the issue, this may be an appropriate time to point out that a Liberal government that embraced meaningful action on global warming could expect to rule Australia … well, forever.
To be honest, they would get my vote – and I have been a Labor voter for longer than most posters here have been alive.
Tristo…you are wildly deluded.
briefly @ #745 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 6:26 pm
Says a man who speaks from experience 🙂
Outlook for Australian coal exports to India is a lot dimmer than claimed by Canavan, says the office of the Australian Chief Economist.
(I didn’t know Australia had a Chief Economist, something like the Chief Scientist role I suppose.)
Player One @ #737 Friday, August 23rd, 2019 – 6:05 pm
It’s never stopped him before.
nath says:
Friday, August 23, 2019 at 6:04 pm
The ALP fanatics were telling us that Rudd and Gillard’s presence at the ALP campaign launch showed that they liked Shorten. Wrong. Rudd was after Shortens’ endorsement for UN Secretary General. Gillard wanted to be Governor General. This was how Shorten was going to make it up to them both for knifing them.
Now Rudd says that Shortens policy was nuts and that the Australian public “didn’t like him or trust him”.
Truth in defeat.
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It shows the need for a truth and reconciliation commission for the healing once the ALP is wound up.
@briefly
Maybe I am, however in recent months my view of the future to come, beyond the next few years have become increasingly brightening and even euphoric.