Essential Research has come out with a second poll in consecutive weeks, the previous one having departed from its normal practice in having a longer field work period and a later release, tailored to work around the interruption of the long weekend. Coming after a period in which a media narrative of Labor taking on water over franking credits has taken hold, the results of the latest poll are striking: the Coalition has sunk four points on the primary vote to 34%, Labor is up two to 38%, the Greens and One Nation are steady on 10% and 7% respectively, and Labor’s two-party lead has blown out from 52-48 to 55-45. Other questions relate to the banking royal commission: you can read more about them from The Guardian, or await for Essential’s full report, which I assume will be with us later today.
UPDATE: Full report here. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Monday from a sample of 1067.
Lizzie then the AWU need to find a staff member prepared to testify that Cash lied under oath today or else we can only assume she did and that proves nothing.
Yabba
‘Note where ‘Protecting and enhancing the river environment’ comes. Third last. And note the final sentence. How often do you think that the NSW and Victorian governments put the environment before irrigators?’
I note where the protecting and enhancing the river environment comes.
I will take the last sentence as a comment.
C@t Cash didn’t say she couldn’t recall she was very direct about her answers.
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Scomo advance team not all that flash on hat selection.
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I think someone knows.
Perhaps I have become too cynical about our Dear Leader PM ScumMo. Even in this heart rending story of flood losses on a Qld cattle station I find myself skeptical of his words:
“Mr Morrison said he would listen to the needs of the community before developing a long-term plan to help the region.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-15/queensland-flood-devastation-years-to-repair/10816204
Really? All the relevant issues are state responsibilities. The Commonwealth would not even have enough people on the ground to assess the damage. States assess natural disasters, including floods. Then if they are big enough to qualify for financial assistance they ask Canberra for a share of the cost. For example Cyclone Yasi damage was largely repaired via a Gillard government scheme. Further down the same article you see this in action: it was Deputy Premier Jackie Trad doing the leg work talking to QR, insurance companies and contractors.
ScumMo flew north for a photo op. But he couldn’t help himself and had to act like he would be their saviour. ScumMo is a fake.
steve davis @ #2108 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 6:45 pm
Does this mean that Airline shareholders are people smugglers ❓ 😇
davidwh @ #2252 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 6:55 pm
I’ll take your word for it but I just remember reading here earlier today that there were a lot of ‘I can’t recall’ answers in her evidence in court today.
Re Cash
There used to be a principle of Ministerial responsibility where the Minister actually took responsibility for serious misconduct in their department. In their office, there was a greater responsibility.
Politically, the question of proving whether Cash actually knew what two senior members of her office should be moot. No Minister should be able to hide behind the idea of plausible deniability of knowledge because loyal former staff members give evidence that she was not involved She should be politically responsible and resign. End of story.
KayJay @ #2255 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:03 pm
I always suspected Alan Joyce was in the QANTAS job for the money he could make out of it. 😉
C@tmomma @ #2241 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 6:36 pm
They will soon start listening.
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2019/02/poll-roundup-mixed-start-to-year-for.html
Poll Roundup: Mixed Start To Year For Struggling Government
2PP 53.7 to Labor (last-election prefs)
2PP 53.2 to Labor (One Nation adjustment)
Government has now trailed continuously for 31 months, the longest ever.
Also includes a lengthy seat poll section entitled “Seat Polls – Can We Please Just Ban Them Until Full Release Of Details Is Compulsory?”
It’s all very well to talk of Australian submarines interdicting Chinese shipping, but while this is going on what is happening to the Australian economy?
If Australia should use submarines in a military response to China, outside of the security implications, I presume that means that all trade with China has ceased and our economy is now in ruins.
If so, what is the point of taking a belligerent stance towards China? The follow on from that is what point is there to the submarines?
C@t the ABC has a reasonably good article on Cash’s responses today.
P1
First the starvation,water shortage,dying in droves THEN comes the listening part
poroti @ #2264 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:10 pm
Well … yes. But eventually, listen they will.
Isn’t it a civil matter? I don’t know what evidence has unfolded but I wouldn’t have thought it hard to get to the conclusions that on the balance of probabilities that a CoS would just not keep a live to news political story from the Minister (they never would, unless there was premeditation / precoordination to not do so) that Cash is an unreliable witness. The existing evidence outlines the ROC and members of staff the Minister is responsible acted corruptly against the AWU. I imagine they are pretty happy.
In relation to Cash and what she knew and when she knew it, there was much conversation in the Howard government days of staff not telling ministers things so the minister could then deny knowledge.
I think this was an issue in the children overboard affair and Peter Reith also was able to convince some that there were all these plans to reform the waterfront and nobody told him anything about it.
Ministerial responsibility certainly ain’t want it was.
How shit useless have our governments been ? Australia world’s biggest exporter of LNG and so well managed have we been that……
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“AGL Energy says it will press ahead with Australia’s first LNG import plant ”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/agl-signals-full-steam-ahead-with-lng-terminal-plan/news-story/41399758e8c0e60801593225f083d512
Oh and as the world’s biggest exporter our royalties for OUR resource are.
Bill Shorten using ‘I cant recall’ 30 times in his appearance at the Royal Commission in 2015.
http://webarchive.nla.gov.au/gov/20180615093047/https://www.tradeunionroyalcommission.gov.au/Hearings/Pages/Hearings/2015/8-July-2015-Public-hearing.aspx
Zoidlord @ #2253 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:01 pm
Do you see how ScaMo is back to wearing his smaller, rimless glasses and not the big, black-rimmed trendy ones anymore? I think I know why.
As my Optometrist explained to me the other day when I kept having to go in and get my new, larger frame glasses adjusted, unsuccessfully as it turned out, so had to go back and pick a new, smaller-framed pair instead-the reason why I would never be able to successfully wear my new glasses was because, as I am almost blind as a bat, the lenses I need in my glasses are so think and thus heavy, that they will forever weigh down the glasses and make them slide down my nose!
So, I could keep them, and keep pushing them up my nose forever and a day, or I could go for smaller frames and thus smaller, less heavy lenses which I wouldn’t have to keep pushing up.
I reckon Scott Morrison has found that he suffers from a similar dilemma.
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nath @ #2268 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:15 pm
Well, he must have been telling the truth and he couldn’t recall, because that is the belief about Michaelia Cash today. 🙂
Socrates@5:55pm
India did test nuclear device in 1974 but they did not build a weapon until after their second nuclear test in 1998 and after Pakistan exposed their capacity in 1998 with their test. The last formal war between India and Pakistan was in 1971. After that Pakistan got a military dictator and their strategy was ‘death by thousand cuts’. So there were no formal wars after 1971.
Anyway, what is with people in US, UK and other western countries (not eastern European countries) who support Pakistan( most of time a dictatorship) against India
(democracy).
I know why. It is because US supported Pakistan against India.
Poor nash has to use 4 year old news to bag Shorten.
How many LNP ministers since then and before have used it…
I Guarantee it’s at least 3 times as much as Labor.
Poor Nash turned into Greenies bashing Labor (Like Peg and Rex).
If anyone is unsure who the real enemy is, his name is Trevor St Baker.
davidwh @ #2262 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:09 pm
Thank you, dwh. I will look it up. 🙂
booleanbach @2:38
“How does one find cartoons in “The Age””
(catching up about 300 posts – apologies if the answer has already been posted)
The Cartoon gallery once was prominent.
On the website – click on Menu – top left. Then enter “cartoon gallery” in the search box
Small pics by Golding are usually with the relevant item.
The editorial cartoon can be found by clicking on “Opinion and Perspectives” and looking for Readers’ Letters, usually under “National”, but not obvious.
Any case which is brought to stop an investigative body investigating is civil. That does not detract from what has to be proved given the fact that the job of the investigative body is to investigate eg police.
The case surely has to be the ROC had no basis to initiate the investigation if the AWU seeks to stop that. If they want the search warrant set aside, that is easier if it can be shown that the warrant was irregularly obtained. I am not sure that is what the AWU is seeking.
davidwh:
[‘Cash’s answers were direct so unless someone can show she lied under oath then I don’t see how any type of improper behavior on her part can be shown.’]
The judge may comment on the veracity of her evidence – her former C of Staff, and another in the thick of it, yet she knows nothing.
davidwh,
This though, from the ABC article yesterday about Ben Davies evidence, sounds like she may have been informed:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-14/afp-awu-roc-raids-leaker-was-offered-job-with-michaelia-cash/10810774
poroti @ #2268 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:14 pm
Clearly there is no shortage of LNG in Australia. There is some truth in the fact that it is hard to get the gas to where it is needed, but this talk of a “shortage” is largely a ruse to try and force more fracking on the east coast, so that they have more LNG to export 🙁
Edit: LNG, not LPG! Doh!
KB says:
I was wondering the other day if it might be a record.
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2019/02/poll-roundup-mixed-start-to-year-for.html
9 news story not favourable on Christmas Is opening, people smuggler basically thanking Morrison :
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/02/15/18/16/medivac-bill-indonesian-people-smuggler-believes-he-will-make-a-lot-of-money
C@tmomma:
There were sound reasons as to why Cash was relegated to a junior portfolio, and it’s not because she’s smart. What she attempted to do was to impress her then boss. That she failed miserably will I think become apparent when Bromberg delivers his judgment? – bearing in mind that this is a civil case.
‘Graham says:
Friday, February 15, 2019 at 7:09 pm
It’s all very well to talk of Australian submarines interdicting Chinese shipping, but while this is going on what is happening to the Australian economy?
If Australia should use submarines in a military response to China, outside of the security implications, I presume that means that all trade with China has ceased and our economy is now in ruins.
If so, what is the point of taking a belligerent stance towards China? The follow on from that is what point is there to the submarines?’
Your comment goes to the heart of Australia’s major unresolved dilemma: China main trade partner; US main military partner.
Since Bob Brown, the Greens have almost become a spent force:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/enemies-within-as-greens-caught-in-civil-war-20190215-p50xze.html
Time for them to move on; perhaps Steele-John is the answer?
Frednk, goats are changing the inland.
I travel a lot in the outback and a couple of years ago I was shocked at the changes the goats were making. We could see them everywhere and they were having two effects on the mulga. The first was that they ate all branches up to as far as they could reach. Leaving trunks and canopy. No growth was growing under the canopy so you could see all these trunks under the canopy for kilometres. The second effect was where the goats could reach up and break the upper branches to get to the leaves (obviously these trees didn’t grow as tall as the first example). The landscape looked like some one with a hedge trimmer had levelled it. The result of both activities is to wipe out the mulga.
This wipe out was evident in WA. We stayed at a station at the bottom of Shark bay. Countryside was just dirt and rocks (with a sign asking visitors to not shoot the goats). This was just out side a national park. Going through the gate into the national park was amazing. One side dirt and rocks, otherside was covered in vegetation.
The goats have multiplied many times over now there is a market. Not the other way around. The farmers are going for the quick buck and don’t care an iota for the environment.
Hey guys
Have you seen the channel 7 news tonight about refugees coming by plane
As our gas pipeline is fully utilized and as we have excellent ship loading facilities; if gas usage goes up it makes good sense to build an a unloading facility at a different location.
It also decouples the Australian gas consumer from the Australian gas suppler. Given what has been going on another good thing.
Vogon Poet
so a random Timorese fisherman is the got to guy for Ch.9. I wonder if there were any $ rewards for saying the ‘right’ thing or how many others they asked before they got the ‘right’ answer ?
PeeBee
The mess was not made in the last 20 years.
[‘…minister concedes Labor leader’s position as AWU boss was ‘probably’ of political interest to her.’]
“Probably” – that’s an understatement. Labor will not let this go. Politically Cash is dead meat.
Poroti, not good news for Morrison if 9 is seeking that view
Wayne:
[‘Have you seen the channel 7 news tonight about refugees coming by plane.’]
No, I didn’t, but you make a sound point, in that boat arrivals are seen as shocking; those arriving by plane – okay.
VP:
The first thought I had when I heard Morrison announce the reopening of Christmas Island was that he’d just put the people smugglers back in business.
With Cash it is the politics of perception
So some will discount her assertions and link them to the overall opinion of this government
Others will defend the government asserting that she, as Minister, knew nothing
Where opinion falls will most probably align with current polling numbers – and will not impact on those numbers
Remember that, in regard the sale of wheat to Saddam Hussain, both Howard and Downer denied any knowledge including when Notes they had appended to correspondence saying they were very busy people and could not be expected to recall every submission they had appended Notes to
The Westminster system, hey?
No doubt you do not recall every decision you make or positions put to you – but what you do know is the consistency of your actions and therefore your responses
I recall at the end of a day in “the box”, and with growing confidence I had a convoluted question put to me encompassing my Diary Notes and extractions many months apart
I may have had a half grin – because I had resolved to ask the obnoxious “beak” if he could please repeat the question
Except the presiding Justice intervened saying he understood that the question revolves around inconsistency, but the Justice rejected the assertion the defence was attempting to present – and adjourned for the day
I was disappointed!
Next morning I received a call from Counsel representing saying I was not required at Court because the defence of the bank’s client had collapsed
My wife would love for our garden to be so well presented – but it is not my forte
nath
There is a slight difference between not recalling events of a decade or so ago and not recalling something which (a) only happened months ago and (b) immediately became something that you knew you were going to be asked questions about.
Mavis Smith @ #2282 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:39 pm
This sounded interesting to me, from the ABC report:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-15/michaelia-cash-testifies-at-awu-court-hearing/10814638
Does this not suggest then that the whole exercise was politically motivated?
Morrison don’t want you to know about the ones coming by plane and they have been coming on the coalition watch…
So they can’t throw stones at labor being soft on boarder security when they are soft on boarder security
zoomster @ #2297 Friday, February 15th, 2019 – 7:04 pm
What was the question to don’t know answer ratio as well, wasn’t Shorten on the stand a lot longer than Cash ?