After a period of improving poll results for the Coalition, the latest Newspoll records a tiny shift on primary votes to Labor, but not another to alter their existing lead of 53-47 from a fortnight ago. Labor is up one point on the primary vote to 39%, after a three-point drop last time, while the Coalition is steady on 37%, retaining their two-point gain in the last poll. The Greens are steady on 9%, while One Nation is down a point to 5%, the lowest it’s been in a year. Scott Morrison’s personal ratings are improved, with approval up three to 43% and disapproval down two to 45%, and his lead as prime minister out from 43-36 to 44-35. Bill Shorten is down one on approval to 36% and up one on disapproval to 51%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1567.
No go C@t, three months to destroy two godless Governments. All holiday leave is cancelled. Except for Naff.
Interesting question is what the government will do now. Options seem to include:
(1) Let the Bill pass and hope that boats will start to re-appear (helped along, perhaps, by orders to the military to go easy on turnbacks);
(2) Advise the GG not to grant Royal Assent, and dare the opposition and frontbenchers to move to the nuclear option of a no-confidence motion;
(3) Accept the votes as ones of no-confidence, and use that to springboard into an election straightaway, hopefully from the government’s viewpoint dominated by border protection.
For myself, these all seem equally probable at the moment.
That’s why his has another nickname ShoutyMcFace.
C@t – sorry to see you leave. I hope you chose to at least occasionally visit in future.
Boerwar- good to see you back.
Labor and the crossbench win that one, 75 to 74.
The vote moves on to agreeing to the amendments Bill Shorten has put forward.
Well it was enjoyable today until a gargantuan and highly successful attention seeking maneuver that promises to go for a week at least.
And I note that the government has just been defeated on a vote to gag the debate. See my earlier comment. The opposition, I suspect, is happy to pile on one defeat of the government on the floor of the House after another.
Phelps, Banks, Sharkie, McGowan.
A historic moment for womyn power.
Go you go good things!
Bandt is still grudging.
Now the media division story is working against the LNP.
I want to make it clear I view this vote on refugees as being as important as the day the Tampa appeared on the horizon
Adam Bandt
https://twitter.com/AdamBandt/status/1095217432602370048
Amendments to the refugee evacuation bill now being debated. Not perfect, because Labor shifted its position towards the gov, but we managed to pull Labor back today to the point where we can get a good outcome for refugees #Greens
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ScoMo speech
https://twitter.com/i/status/1095217716179349504
A lot of the government members had faces like dropped pies as they wended their way out of the chamber.
Morrison cans scream that any boat arrivals before an election is held are Labors fault all he likes but all the ALP has to say is YOU are the govt, YOU are in charge of the borders, any arrivals happened because YOU let them…….. YOU failed…not the opposition….YOU ….and then if a single boat turns up before or during the election threaten a RC into Border Farce or the Navy that allowed it to happen.
lizzie
How about giving credit to the Greens for compromising, apparently the myth being the Greens never do is debunked once again.
Bandt = 1 vote out of 149 votes.
The mouse that squeaked.
The bill has passed.
Government defeated on Medical Evac Bill on floor of parliament.
The bill has just passed.
The government claim this vote was critical: which means it should fall on its sword, right now.
It wont though…
Giving credit to the greens for coming to consensus. So pleased to see this go through.
Well, don’t. C@t’s “passion”, i.e. unhinged abusiveness, when up against “some fairly nasty people”, i.e. anyone who deviates from this blog’s stultifying partisan orthodoxy, is a big part of what’s been wrong with this blog lately. And idiots cheering her on for it is another big part.
So has the question been asked as to how and why Cash’s CEO had information that the AFP were going to “raid” a Union office – and was in a position to tip off the media?
Was there collusion between Cash’s Office and the AFP – or vice versa?
I would view that the AFP are autonomous – anyone can make a complaint but once that complaint is made the matter is with the AFP who you would expect to make no comment whilst investigations are ongoing
So how did Cash’s Office know of the pending “raid”?
The power of a crossbench: Phelps, Bandt, Wilkie, McGowan, Sharkie, Banks.
Well done.
That was unfortunate for the Government!!
[Pegasus says:
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:15 pm
lizzie
How about giving credit to the Greens for compromising, apparently the myth being the Greens never do is debunked once again]
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It is fantastic that the Greens finally chose to compromise. It is a pity that at lunchtime Di Natale, without any justification whatsoever, claimed the Labor amendments made the Bill worse than that proposed by the Government.
The reason this statement was a pity was the logical consequence of that statement being made in good faith was that the Greens would not support the Labor amendments. There was NOTHING in the subsequent changes agreed to that were of any substance.
Government has lost control of parliament.
They are no government at all.
That’s the takeaway here! End this shambles : ELECTION NOW.
William
Cat’s fault – and I think that she will admit it – is to refuse to shut up when provoked. We are all hoping that she can calm down so that we can enjoy her genuine contributions.
So now it’s all eyes to the Senate?
@Peg
Without the help of Labor, The bill would be dead.
So instead of telling us give greens a little bit when it was they who was delaying the bill being passed!
Today is a good day, but perhaps more should happen for the past couple of years since 2013, Abbott Government!
Cross benchers should give all the credit, playing politics since day one!
The Guardian:
The Morrison government has become the first since 1929 to lose a substantive vote on the floor of the House.
The last time that happened, the Stanley Bruce government called an election the next day.
Scott Morrison has already said he will not be doing that. Labor took out the renumeration issue, which took away the constitutional issues, and means the government has not lost control, even nominally, of the government’s finances.
The majority of the crossbench have said they are not interested in a no-confidence motion and they want the government to go full term.
Someone would have to move a no confidence motion and then that same majority would have to support it.
As for the bill, it heads back to the Senate, where there are the numbers to pass it. But that doesn’t mean it won’t be a long and drawn out process in terms of filibustering.
Zoomster
Yes, my mistake …… you had 2 points and when my post went up and I saw my error, I knew you would point it out. But it was an error quite inconsequential as far as the point I was making goes.
To spell it out, the GG can refuse to endorse any bill, and any legislation is liable to be examined by the HC, and have it’s constitutionality questioned. But in the context of thousands of bills being passed, the former never happens nowadays, and the latter is quite infrequent.
No, Lizzie, C@t’s fault is to perceive herself as having been provoked when she hasn’t been.
Observer,
You’ll have to wait until Wednesday when De Garis and Davies will be on the stand as the undercard to Cash on Friday.
@ Lord Bill Bowe
“And idiots cheering her on for it is another big part.”
Said it before and I will say it again. “I resemble that comment”.
BTW Pollbludger joins Google and the ABC in being blocked in parts of The People’s Republic of China. I had to use a VPN to access. So maybe Pollbludger has gone global with its partisan orthodoxy!!
it seems we now have William after dark!
Just as an aside the problems with this blog, hence the scanning past certain names because of repetitive content, is not just down to the contributor who is the subject of the Moderator’s comment
BK @ #1811 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 6:14 pm
How long have you held that in reserve ❓ 😍
I am happy to see I was finally wrong about the Greens, good to see they walked back Tricky Dickies rejection of the amendments and worked with Labor finally to get the bill through!!
I would have thought the AWU case must be on the basis that the ROC inquiry, and consequential raid, was directed by the Government through Cash.
As such, the idea would be Cash (or her staff member) advised, directed the OC to conduct the raid and tell her when it would be.
I say credit to every politician that voted for the Bill.
Today you voted for hope decency and humanity. A vote on the right side of history.
Its to our countries shame it took so long.
There is no credit to anyone particular party or Independent. It was a fantastic team effort. Just like with Marriage Equality.
Stanley Melbourne Bruce became the first PM to lose his seat at an election. Let’s hope Morrison becomes the Third.
Big part of the problem #3: people talking about their scrolling past/blocking activities.
Rumours of either a cabinet meeting or an all liberal party members meeting being called for 8pm tonight.
So William, do tell. A overwhelming victory for Labor is possibly bad for business? Got my undies done uptight!Actually, it’s uptight and outta sight.
Did I read that right: Essential 55-45 to ALP (+3)
THE END IS NIGH TORIES!
Cat’s fault is that Cat loses the plot and gets abusive. There are some others in the same boat. The regular mindless PB sniping over recent weeks is a major reason to avoid contributing. The snipers can be sensible contributors like everyone else – needs a dose of self awareness and some thinking time before firing back. Good to see William getting a handle on things.
Amidst all the chaos
The Queensland LNP quietly dump this (non-paywalled) – warning sleaze factor 10!!
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/lnp-details-claims-against-whitsunday-mp/news-story/f59f86d6af253f1459e1c859e58bdfd3
Jason Costigan probably ends his political career.
KayJay
It’s a very old saying.
Christian Porter was thoroughly trounced in that particular exchange. Not a great moment in his career.
sadly, I was attending to some important matters over the last few hours – and missed the first substantive vote a government has lost on the floor of the House since 1929.
Stanley Bruce, PM at the time, did the honourable thing and called an election the next day.
Scotty, grubbily holding on to his precious C1 number plate, has a decision to make tonight.
I wonder whether Mr Morrison has the ticker.
He missed some important meetings the other day because he was sick.
His effort in the House today was clearly hampered by ill health.
Since stabbing Mr Turnbull in the back he has been doing bee-in-a-bottle.
Is Morrison worn out already?