The Australian reports Newspoll has Labor has opened a towering two-party lead of 56-44, compared with 51-49 in the last poll under Malcolm Turnbull a fortnight ago. Labor is up fully six points on the primary vote to 41%, while the Coalition is down four to 33%, the Greens are steady on 10% and One Nation is down two to 7%. Bill Shorten also holds a 39-33 lead over Scott Morrison on preferred prime minister, which compares with 44-32 in Turnbull’s last poll. No indication yet of whether the normal field work dates of Thursday to Sunday, or the sample of 1600, were amended according to circumstances.
UPDATE: The Newspoll turns out to have been conducted from Friday to Saturday, so with Thursday chopped off the usual survey period, but with the sample size much as usual at 1783. It also has a best Liberal leader question that differs from earlier results in suggesting a transfer of support from Malcolm Turnbull to Scott Morrison, leaving Julie Bishop in first place on 29%, Morrison second on 25%, Turnbull third on 14%, and Tony Abbott and Peter Dutton at 11% and 6% respectively, much as they were before. A “more capable of handling the economy” question has Morrison leading Shorten 44-34. It doesn’t appear the usual leadership approval ratings were featured in the poll.
The Fairfax papers also have three ReachTEL polls for marginal Coalition seats, conducted over two nights rather than ReachTEL’s usual one and apparently with bigger than usual samples (I say apparently because each of the three results tables cites a sample size of 1047 respondents, which surely can’t be right). The results are highly diverse: strong for Peter Dutton in Dickson, adequate for Craig Laundy in Banks and disastrous for Michael Sukkar in Deakin. However, they differ from Newspoll in having Morrison leading Shorten on preferred prime minister.
• Peter Dutton leads 54-46 in Dickson, compared with his post-redistribution margin of 2.0%. Morrison holds a particularly big lead over Bill Shorten here as preferred prime minister, of 58.6-414.
• After a high-profile week of public support for Malcolm Turnbull, Craig Laundy leads 52-48 in Reid, compared with a post-redistribution margin of 4.7%. Morrison’s lead over Shorten is 55-45.
• Michael Sukkar, a conservative spear-carrier for the push to remove Malcolm Turnbull, trails Labor 53-47 in his eastern Melbourne seat of Deakin, a 9.3% swing.
The polls also find voter overwhelmingly opposed to the dumping of Malcolm Turnbull, opposed to an early election, not wanting Tony Abbott to return to the front bench, opposed to withdrawing from the Paris agreement, and broadly favourable views on Scott Morrison’s performance as Treasurer. There is no great variation on these results between the three seats.
He looks oddly sinister in this photo.
guytaur @ #1047 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:48 pm
Labor is with the Govt on the torture camps.
Fess,
Crazy in a very scary way.
I’m just little and these men were big in that, well-fed Rugger Bugger kind of way!
Rex
False. Otherwise known as a lie.
Labor is against indefinite detention its their policy.
Like it or lump it. Its the accurate truth. Even if they have not given the timeline of what the limit is.
guytaur @ #1051 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:52 pm
The Govt say they are against it too.
On reflection, I would like to apologise for telling BB to “fuck off” earlier on, when “piss off” would have been more proportionate.
C@tmomma @ #1045 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:45 pm
Yeah, but it was a remedial one.
Rex
Another lie. The government says its for indefinite detention. Dutton said again today they would do what ever it takes to “stop the people smugglers”
Edit: I am sorry I have to use the word lie but I can’t think of another word that is just not semantics.
I think off shore processing negates any stance on indefinite detention doesn’t it? I mean it’s Nauru who’s detaining them. wink. wink.
guytaur @ #1055 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:55 pm
Tell the last time Labor asked a question of Dutton in QT regarding the death camps ?
adrian says:
Monday, August 27, 2018 at 7:55 pm
C@tmomma @ #1045 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:45 pm
nath,
You topped your creative writing class, didn’t you?
Yeah, but it was a remedial one.
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It’s even worse than that Adrian. Copied that spiel from Mike Myers. Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery. 🙂
Rex
I agree Labor should be strong and speak up loudly on AS.
I just don’t think it helps to say their policy is for indefinite detention when its not.
nath @ #1056 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:55 pm
Did you watch the story on 7.30 tonight ? If so, how did you feel ?
I’ve just been polled by Community Engagement on federal voting intention, how certain am I that I’m going to vote that way, preferred Liberal leader choice between Dutton, Morrison, Turnbull and Bishop, best party to fix WA’s unfair share of the GST and party I trust most to deliver in important infrastructure like the Morley to Ellenbrook railway line.
Well said guytaur
Just saw a paper copy of the Daily Telecrap. The big front page story is “Peace: Abbott out of exile”, billed as an ‘exclusive’, the story’s about Abbott being offered the position as ‘envoy’ to Indigenous Australia. Inside, there’s a story about the new cabinet, with a large headline “Bid to bring Tony Back”. There’s a panel “Mal’s last Wave”, with a picture of a grumpy looking Mal and Lucy. At the bottom of the page is “Coalition savaged in horror poll”.
This isn’t over. Rupert wants Tony back.
guytaur @ #1059 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:59 pm
Their policy is to look away and walk past.
Rex Douglas says:
Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:00 pm
nath @ #1056 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 7:55 pm
I think off shore processing negates any stance on indefinite detention doesn’t it? I mean it’s Nauru who’s detaining them. wink. wink.
Did you watch the story on 7.30 tonight ? If so, how did you feel ?
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Sorry I missed it, but if you are interested in my view on the issue then I am against offshore processing and indefinite detention. I am against detaining children under any circumstances.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/can-t-vote-liberal-in-good-conscience-alex-turnbull-blasts-climate-stance-20180827-p50018.html
very telling story – who else has asserted the corruption angle so directly?
the libs lines for monday is objection to one policy not leader – so you dump a leader because of one policy …. ludicrosity
grimace:
A mix of federal and state issues. And who is Community Engagement?
I don’t think Warren Buffet would like think much of some on this blog …
The smartest people I know:
1 Don’t get easily offended
2 Read more than they talk
3 Enjoy intelligent discourse
4 Quickly admit when they’re wrong
5 Comfortable changing their opinion
6 Surround themselves w/ intelligence
7 Seek to understand every perspective on a topic
“death camps” FFS. Get a bit of perspective. How can you have a reasonable discussion if you’re going to use emotive words like that.
Agreed, it needs to be resolved. Agreed Labor are to some extent shirking the issue.
But if we really want to change the situation on Naru & Manus Labor are the best bet.
I simply want to see the back of Tony Abbott.
mikehilliard @ #1069 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 8:04 pm
People have actually died.
Tony wants Tony back. Voters OTOH just want to see the back of Tony.
” I mean it’s Nauru who’s detaining them. wink. wink.”
If Australia negotiates with the US to take Nauru Refugees then Australia controls the refugees..Expect a successful HC challenge that throws Dutton out of parliament & overturns his illegal & invalid acts.
grimace
Lucien’s son mentioned you in his spray today…………………….well sort of.:)
https://outline.com/AtfeXt
Tony Abbott is Banquo’s Ghost to the Liberal Party.
Most see him as a divisive fool with a clever tongue and revenge as a motive. The Liberals see his as someone who has been wronged, and somehow needs to be redeemed.
And there I was thinking nath had lifted the story from ‘The Bullshit Artist’s Book of Bullshit ‘.
William, thanks but no thanks.
“Fuck off” enhances my credibility around here.
“Piss off” is merely what my wife regularly tells me to do (unjustly, I might add).
C@tmomma says:
Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm
This is the best I could find from quick search. Apologies for the inclusion of another person.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/050acce7264f2ac1319f36610586fa54?width=650
Rex Douglas and what are you doing about the refugees? Apart from pretending to care about them on PB so you can beat Labor up over them?
BB
You should hark the words of Matthias to Malcolm this last week.
“Pull up stumps, Digger. The caravan has moved on, and the dogs are pissing on your swag.”
Sometimes I wonder if you are genuine Rex or just trolling. In this case are you aiming to have ALP supporters pressure the party to change policy and therefore give the LNP a hammer to hit them constantly over the head with.
Just about everyone here. Certainly me.
The meme that that the Coalition coal junkies are stupid and ideologically driven is just a polite way of saying they have taken the lump of coal, and the donations therefrom, and seen gold.
Turnbull’s failure was that he knew all about it, but did nothing.
William, thanks but no thanks.
“Fuck off” enhances my credibility around here
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It’s true, ever since then I have steered clear of this bad boy.
Agoo44,
He needs to be further away from parliament than that! 😀
Rex
Thats why I think Labor should speak loudly. I don’t think this is the vote loser they are scared it is as long as they argue the turn back policy works.
Of course today’s boat arrival could start to change that narrative and I am glad the Greens at least are out there saying so. We shall see. What I do know is the race baiting that is the reason for the policy has been called out. Yes by Labor too.
Thats what the motion Bill Shorten and Penny Wong got passed by parliament was about.
Things are changing but its going to take time and there is only so much Labor can do in opposition.
Even as I think Labor could have shouted more to try and overcome the secrecy.
Thanks, Sprocket.
I’ll leave it up to me to decide how to respond to a William post, not up to you.
Not in gas chambers or machine gun pits. So not death camps in the historical sense.
Look, I agree it’s bad. But nobody can take the population with them on refugees with the current Government a bunch of raving looneys on the issue.
The best we can hope for is Labor to play some form of lip service & once the LNP are gawn then get on with fixing it.
Clearly enough people implored upon the NSW RSL president to run in Wentworth that he felt he had to issue a public comment. No clue whether he’d have run as a Lib or an independent.
C@tmomma @ #1083 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 6:15 pm
And so does she!!
C@tmomma says:
Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:15 pm
Concur. Completely.
nath:
Please stop being so honest. Indeed, you remind me of my upbringing.
PM’s son-in-law, James Brown, elected NSW RSL president
Dave @ #1092 Monday, August 27th, 2018 – 5:13 pm
Rex is doing it tough at the moment.
With the change of leadership the daily talking points haven’t been coming through, so he has just been recycling old ones. 🙂
I think ScoMo will hang on as long as he possibly can, meaning:
October 22-26 Senates Estimates – GBRF do you say?
November will see a MYEFO with corporate tax cuts and consequent growth projections removed from the forward estimates
December will see an ALP National Conference, so inter alia, the asylum seeker policy can be renewed.
May – do not rule out a half Senate election
A good question.
Rex, the off shore camps may be far too harsh and unconsionable, but to refer to them as “Death Camps” is extremely offensive. Especially when the Death Camps were the Likes of Auswitch , Birkenau etc.
Just Saying
So nath calls on people to behave in a certain way, but when he’s challenged funks it.
Fair enough.