Newspoll and Ipsos state breakdowns

State breakdowns from recent polling by both Newspoll and Ipsos agree that Queensland remains a major headache for the Turnbull government.

The Australian has today brought us its quarterly Newspoll breakdowns, whereby three months of polling is condensed into results broken down for the five mainland states, so as to provide such numbers from reliable sample sizes. That much at least was predictable, but we also have today the same exercise from Ipsos courtesy of the Fairfax papers, which is a first. This is because Ipsos poll samples have been pared back from 1400 to 1200, presumably for reasons of cost, and the pollster no longer cares to publish state breakdowns from such small sub-samples, and has thus gone down the Newspoll path of aggregating them on a quarterly basis.

The Australian provides comprehensive Newspoll tables if you’re a subscriber (also featuring breakdowns by gender, three age cohorts and mainland state capitals versus the rest), but all we’ve got from Fairfax so far as I can see is two-party results (more detail may follow in due course). In New South Wales, Newspoll has Labor leading 52-48, while Ipsos has 53-47 (there’s an error in the Fin Review graphic, but that’s what it is); in Victoria, it’s 53-47 from Newspoll, and no less than 56-44 from Ipsos (which is most of the reason Ipsos’s results have been better for Labor lately than Newspoll’s); in Queensland, it’s 53-47 from Newspoll, 52-48 from Ipsos; in Western Australia, Newspoll has it at 50-50, while Ipsos unusually has the Coalition up 53-47; and in South Australia, Newspoll has Labor up 51-49, while Ipsos has it at 52-48 (the latter is inclusive of the Northern Territory, although that shouldn’t matter much – ditto for Newspoll rolling the Australian Capital Territory into New South Wales).

All of which should put BludgerTrack on a firmer footing for its update later this week, despite the likelihood that there will be no new national poll. Also out today is a ReachTEL state poll from Victoria, which is covered in the post below.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Simon² Katich® @ #146 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 1:46 pm

    Their culture is kids wrapped in cotton wool, never exposed to risk

    I will never get used to the feeling of dread I get every time my young children set off on the short walk to school.

    Culture is a powerful thing.

    You ought to walk past the local Catholic boys school that I walk past every day.
    It may be a different culture, but the children that the parents drop off at the door from their 4 wheel drives in the finest of weather, are generally neither young nor small.

  2. I’m a few pages short of just finishing Patrick White’s (1976) A Fringe of Leaves*. His portrayal of the aborigines is shockingly vivid, up to and including cannabalism. Whatever the truth of the matter, the dissection of their notated history, in the hands of the observers and victors, is impossibly complex and unbalanced.

    (*prompted by Christos Tsiolkas’ book in the series, Writers on Writers on Patrick White, and his session at the Sydney Writer’s Festival)

  3. Simon² Katich® @ #146 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 10:46 am

    Their culture is kids wrapped in cotton wool, never exposed to risk

    I will never get used to the feeling of dread I get every time my young children set off on the short walk to school.

    Culture is a powerful thing.

    At least you let them, well done.

    I am always amazed how my mates ferry their kids around which is in complete contrast to the freedom we were given growing up in the same suburbs and they haven’t changed that much.

  4. Cameron @ #105 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 12:51 pm

    DTT,

    Nice straw man attempt.

    Have you forgotten what the Russians did in the 2016 US election?

    When you have a shred of evidence that they did anything more than many other countries get back to me. A few pimply kids in a basement. Most of the facebook stuff was after the election. Truly when there is evidence in public court with proper examination then I might consider this argument. Untilthen you are acting like a paid shill of a repressive state. Evidencein public subject to full scrutiny. The rule of LAW

    And Brexit?

    Oh dear pull the other one. It was bloody racism and fear of immigrants that caused Brexit and still will. If Russia disappeared and there was a vote on Brexit it would win again.
    Honestly like a pack of kiddies – wasn’t me mummy Wussa did it weally. Cameron it is called DEMOCRACY

    Have you forgotten that Russia annexed Crimea?

    Where were you when Crimea was arbitarily given to Ukraine by Krushev himself a Ukranian? Did you call for a Democratic election in Crimea to determine where they wanted to go when the USSR split? Do you deny that there was an election after the Russian annexation? Are you aware Putin got 90% of the votes in the last election in Crimea? Are you aware that Crimeans are ethnically Russian? Are you aware that Crimea was part of Russia before Texas was part of the USA and before Australia was settled by UK? Areyou aware that Crimea played a huge role in support of Russia in WWI and are very, very proud of this?Are you aware that the Ukrainian government sought to ban use of Russian as a national language? Are you aware that the Crimean economy was in the toilet when part of Ukranine?

    Now I would have no problem at all with there being a supervised election in the Crimea once the region settles to ensure that the people are happy to be part of Russia. We should of course offer the SAME to Hawaiians and to Texans (maybe Tasmanians and North Qld and WA too).

    Putin has killed journalists and an opposition leader that was due to expose the fact that he is one of the richest men in the world.

    This is alleged but there are plenty of similar allegations about US presidents especially Clinton. Allegations are just that allegations. Look at the recent absurd botched set up to prove a journalist was killed by Russia when in fact he was alive. How many other “murders” are faked in order to hide from police or mafia hit men or escape from debts. You should also be aware that MANY journalists are also spies in the rel sense although sometimes on a part time basis. Indeed it may not be too far fetched to say that almost EVERY foreign posted journalist is a spy to a greater or lesser degree.

    Are you aware just how many journalists have been “accidentally” killed in the recent US excursions abroad. it is a hell of a lot? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones and unfortunately your beloved US CIA has a heck of a lot of glass in its house.

    Putin and his oligarch’s are worth billions yet most Russians live in poverty.

    Are you aware of the terrible poverty the Russian were in in the US dominated Yeltsin years. I suggest you watch the film “The Italian” – excellent and sad but it showed Russia in the 90s. Hell hole. The main reason Putin is popular is that he has lifted many people out of poverty. They have food now which is more than they did in the yankee years.

    Please stop spouting CIA propaganda. At least do a basic scan for accuracy and common sense.

    That being said I have no love for oligarchs. However Putin actually DID get rid of quit a few of them – that made him popular too.

    How about that Putin is a stone cold killer and a thuggish dictator?

    Have you ever heard of the term EVIDENCE. Are you aware of the allegations that the Clinton murdered mamny people. I think they are of course all wacky except perhaps for one of them which leave me feeling there is something smelly. Thing is there will always be allegations of this kind against prominent people. Only a gullible fool or a propagandist believes them unless there is really really good evidence. Now if a murder happens in the USA (eg Seth Rich) we assume it was a mugging gone wrong, rather than a political murder. Probably reasonable, However idiots and gullible fools accept that if a murder occurs in Russia it must be Putin rather than a mafia boss, a burglary gone wrong or a domestic dispute. I have no patience with such tiresome idiocy.

    That Putin just poisoned people in Britain?

    Do you see fairies in your garden

    This nonsense story has been so solidly debunked that you shame yourself for spouting it. Novacheck the poison for all seasons – it is long lasting (oh no it isn’t) it acts instantly ( oh know it doesn’) it is washed by rain (Oh no it isn’t.) When the UK stops changing its story every 2.5 minutes we might believe them.

    Now you would have us believe that Vlad poisoned two supposed drug addicts in the UK. Busy man Vlad is. Was he Jack the Ripper?

    Putin is terrified of democracy and a democratic uprising in his own country. Putin is motivated by cultivating paranoia of the US and the West and stomping down on any chance of democracy in Russia.

    Cameron you are tragic. There was just a presidential election in Russia. No one suggests it was not fair.
    You seem to be fundamentally anti democratic – democracy is great so long as OUR guys win. Fundamentally you are more totalitarian and anti Democracy that Putin.

    When you compare the Russian election with the travesty of the US system in electing Trump, any rational person would award the democracy prize to Russia. So take a chill pill and get over your phobia.

    Do you understand that Russia has a state run media?

    So do we and Britain. Ever heard of the BBC and ABC. But then I guess you are a Rupert sock puppet and would like to SELL the ABC

    That the average monthly Russian wage is $450 US a month – less than China?

    Ever heard of purchasing power. In any case why is that relevant. There is no question that Putin has improved the lives of Russian although clearly there is much more to be done. In his recent very long speech and budget he place empahsis on improving living standards. Again look at the state Russia was in when he came to power.

    Putin has never got over Hillary Clinton calling out him presiding over dodgy Russian elections in 2011.

    This may well be true. Certainly there is no love lost. I suspect he is a bit of a sexist too- I have read somewhere (actually in Hillary’s book) that he invited Bill to go with him on a tiger conservation mission but did not extend the invitation to Hillary. She seemed to have been offended.

    Again from Hillary’s book did you know he was a passionate conservationist?

    I’m all for bipartisan diplomacy, but why is Trump looking to deal away US national interests to North Korea and or Russia and giving them what they want?

    Well I see that USA is the winner out of the NK deal at this point so I do not understand what you are getting at. The deal seems so lop sided that in the ed NK will pull out.

    The Republican party has been lobotomised to think it’s OK for Trump to attack the free press, to attack the justice system, to attack minorities, to undermine the notion of objective truth, to attack the US’s allies, to attack NATO (the greatest peace keeping organisation the world has known), to attack the UN and Human Rights and pull out of the Paris Climate Change Agreement. All of this is what Putin wants. Trump and the Republicans are a wholly owned subsidiary of Putin.

    I do not think Trump needs Putin to attack the justice system (the Tea party wants this and the fundies and i really do not thin Putin is their puppet master), nor does Trump need any encouragement to attack the press who have given him hardtime. Similarly all the human rights stuff is pretty much Tea Party party play book and has nothing to do with Russia. Russia also signed up to Paris, so I think you are off on a tangent there.

    Now NATO is perhaps a valid point but ask yourself the obvious question. What is NATO for? it ONLY exists fight Russia. Naturally Putin hates it. So would Mother Theresa or Obama or Bill Shorten if they suddenly found themselves president of Russia.

    How about using common sense trying to see the world outside the narrow vision of the USA.

    In last 2 weeks Trump has invited Russia to join G7, denied Russian interference in 2016 election, hinted at recognizing Crimean annexation, pulling out of Syria & reducing US troops in Germany.
    In return for these monumental concessions Trump has asked Putin to do…?

    Now Cameron I realise that you do not actually believe in democracy but I guess you will acknowledge that each of the items mentioned were actually noted in Trump’s campaign speech and the people ELECTED him to do each of those things. Do you recall?

    No as I say democracy is fine so long as the people all vote for your ideas. If thy do not them it must have been a mistake. Bloody autocrats like you make me angry. Fascism when it arrives will be wearing the cloak of Democracy.

  5. Adrian

    I have vivid memory of the time when my sons were at the local primary school and rapid growth had the place bursting at the seams with demountable classrooms and parking and traffic issues.

    At one angry parent meeting a plain speaking man from Education head office stared down the room and told us the school didn’t have a parking problem at all.

    What it had, he said, was a parent problem. A problem with parents who wouldn’t let their kids walk a few hundred metres to school.

    Believe it or not he had a surprising amount of support in the room.

  6. daretotread back to belittling other, sensible, posters because they disagree with her, I see. With copious misleading verbiage to back herself in. Or is that persiflage?

  7. SNEAKY CLEAN
    Inside the Online Campaign to Whitewash the History of Donald Trump’s Russian Business Associates
    Who is paying bloggers on the other side of the globe to scrub the Internet of Trump’s Russian business ties?
    LACHLAN MARKAY
    DEAN STERLING JONES

    A mystery client has been paying bloggers in India and Indonesia to write articles distancing President Donald Trump from the legal travails of a mob-linked former business associate.

    Spokespeople for online reputation management companies in the two countries confirmed that they had been paid to write articles attempting to whitewash Trump’s ties to Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who, with former Russian trade minister Tevfik Arif, collaborated with the Trump Organization on numerous real estate deals from New York to the former Soviet Union.

    The campaign appears designed to influence Google search results pertaining to Trump’s relationship with Sater, Arif, and the Bayrock Group, a New York real estate firm that collaborated with Trump on a series of real estate deals, and recruited Russian investors for potential Trump deals in Moscow.

    ..The elder Trump now says he doesn’t even remember Sater.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-online-campaign-to-whitewash-donald-trumps-russian-business-ties?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning

    Global criminality enabled by the money of the corrupt.

  8. Boerwar @ #233 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 1:09 pm

    ‘Bennelong Lurker says:
    Monday, July 9, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    BW,
    The plough would have been pulled by kangaroos. The stump jump plough’s origins are seemingly much earlier than seen in the usual history books.’

    Skippygronomics

    Nah. They actually used a wombat pulling an inverted echidna. The joeys of t’day just don’t wanna know about how tough it used to be…

  9. Only Bill Shorten and Labor are capable of standing up to Putin and Trump and the corrupt global conservative cabal. In their genial, no-nonsense, no grandstanding way. 🙂

  10. I just point out that Putin being popular conflicts with Cameron’s original post, and the later assertion that “everyone is terrified to speak out”.

  11. I heard a lovely story about one of the Indigenous AFL players from the Tiwi islands, the other day, speaking about kangaroos. Apparently, he used to train himself for tagging by going out and catching a joey, then bring it back home, whereupon he would let it go, catch it, bring it back, let it go, catch it…over and over. 🙂

  12. Lovey,

    Can I amend my post to state that opposition figures and independent media are terrified to speak out. Of the general population, those who access to the truth, some no doubt would be scared to speak out. Obviously. PS: The first oligarch to displease Putin was locked up in a cage as a lesson to the other dozen. They soon got the message and said “anything you want Mr Putin”.

  13. Cameron @ #161 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 2:32 pm

    Lovey,

    Can I amend my post to state that opposition figures and independent media are terrified to speak out. Of the general population, those who access to the truth, some no doubt would be scared to speak out. Obviously. PS: The first oligarch to displease Putin was locked up in a cage as a lesson to the other dozen. They soon got the message and said “anything you want Mr Putin”.

    Those oligarchs were appalling thieves who nearly destroyed Russia. Whatever else you may say Putin has people fed, pays the military and has restored national pride. These things matter.

    You need to accept reality that Putin is popular. It is idiotic to carry on like a pork chop about everything else.

    Yes there are some opposition figures although a pretty useless lot they are. Why do you not just WAIT. eventually Putin will leave office either voluntarily or after electoral defeat. The key to Russia will not be Putin but whoever his successor might be.

  14. I know that Bludger works in mysterious ways but repurposing the Comintern as a the Putintern rather takes the cake.

    What does rather tickle the fancy are the strident demands for evidence. As if there is none!

    Images of dozens of journalists murdered without arrests, convictions or jailings do not count as evidence. Comrades, suicide is suicide.

    There is scads of evidence of Putin’s Gay Hate Pogram, which includes first hand accounts of gay defenestration, gay murders, gay hate laws, gay bashings and gay jailings. They even had to announce a gay persecution ‘barley charlie’ in case other states banned their citizens and their football teams from playing in the World Cup. Here is a small prediction. Once the World Cup is over it will be business as usual for Putin’s Gay Hate Pogram.

    The armed invasion of the Crimea does not count. Oh no. The Putin apologists’ test here is that someobody some time in the past gave the Crimea to the ‘wrong’ state. Well, mes enfants, if THAT sort of test was rigorously applied, we would have wars crop out all over the globe right now. Forget international law and forget international dispute resolution mechanisms and forget the United Nations. Just do it. The only threshold test would be that might is right.

    IMO there is only one thing worse than Trump’s pathetic lickspittles in our democracies. And that is Putin’s pathetic lickspittles in our democracies.

  15. Cameron @ #161 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 2:32 pm

    Lovey,

    Can I amend my post to state that opposition figures and independent media are terrified to speak out. Of the general population, those who access to the truth, some no doubt would be scared to speak out. Obviously. PS: The first oligarch to displease Putin was locked up in a cage as a lesson to the other dozen. They soon got the message and said “anything you want Mr Putin”.

    Actually Cameron I am sure you are wrong on the free speech idea LOTS of opposition figures do get to speak of Russian TV although I did read that cheekily the Russian media encourages them because they are so appalling that they help the government.

  16. dtt
    If he is so wonderfully popular why does he routinely jail his main opponents? Why does he use all sorts of trickery to make sure they don’t a clear run during elections?


  17. C@tmomma says:
    Monday, July 9, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    daretotread back to belittling other, sensible, posters because they disagree with her, I see. With copious misleading verbiage to back herself in. Or is that persiflage?

    You must of read it; I only got as far as “daretotread”, and then it was Barney in Go Dau commenting on the pounding his scroll wheel was getting.

  18. daretotread. @ #173 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 11:38 am

    Cameron @ #161 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 2:32 pm

    Lovey,

    Can I amend my post to state that opposition figures and independent media are terrified to speak out. Of the general population, those who access to the truth, some no doubt would be scared to speak out. Obviously. PS: The first oligarch to displease Putin was locked up in a cage as a lesson to the other dozen. They soon got the message and said “anything you want Mr Putin”.

    Those oligarchs were appalling thieves who nearly destroyed Russia. Whatever else you may say Putin has people fed, pays the military and has restored national pride. These things matter.

    You need to accept reality that Putin is popular. It is idiotic to carry on like a pork chop about everything else.

    Yes there are some opposition figures although a pretty useless lot they are. Why do you not just WAIT. eventually Putin will leave office either voluntarily or after electoral defeat. The key to Russia will not be Putin but whoever his successor might be.

    Death!

    Dictators rarely hand power on. 🙂

  19. Why doesn’t Turnbull invade PNG, jail Shorten, and organize a gay hate pogrom?

    Being gay could once again become a crime. Anyone who bashes gays is doing their patriotic duty. Throwing gays off buildings is just a bit of sport (like throwing them off the Sydney cliffs). And the beauty is that half the time the police are in on the action!
    What a wuss!

    And wouldn’t Turnbull just love to jail Shorten and bar from running the next election? Just think about how very popular Turnbull would be with no opponents at all!

  20. This is interesting. Today’s Brexit tantrum may be of more momentum than I had originally thought. Aside from sentient lobster neural networks, Stross’ SF (particularly the Laundry and World Walkers series) are becoming less spoof and more prescient.

  21. The problem with reading anything too much into the movement in the Braddon polls is that the first one was such an obviously steaming pile of shit. One of the poorest electorates in the country coming up with a result in favour of tax cuts for big biz significantly higher than the already overcooked national figure released on the same day? No wonder they got some ridiculous 46% Lib PV. Bad sample.

    Is this one any better? Maybe, maybe not.

    When seat polling is consistently showing a swing to the government when the national polling is showing the opposite, then it’s more likely than not that the seat polling is missing something.

  22. dare to tread

    another PB hits the dust
    your script sounds like a tired left wing putin loving rationale – step out of europe, east europe, nato, baltic, scandinavian lens on putin?
    costs are about 60% of here – look it up
    what obama has killed journalists? esp in foreign countries?
    whatever case there might be for russia or crimea putin is last to put it, ditto trump for america

  23. “Cameron you are tragic. There was just a presidential election in Russia. No one suggests it was not fair. (eh?) You seem to be fundamentally anti democratic – democracy is great so long as OUR guys win. (eh) Fundamentally you are more totalitarian and anti Democracy that Putin.(eh)

    When you compare the Russian election with the travesty of the US system in electing Trump, any rational person would award the democracy prize to Russia. (eh)So take a chill pill and get over your phobia.”
    russian troll

  24. rhw
    The interesting thing is that the far left is in bed with the far right; as per sanders and trump, and as per di natale and Turnbull/McCormick.

  25. frednk @ #166 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 2:41 pm


    C@tmomma says:
    Monday, July 9, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    daretotread back to belittling other, sensible, posters because they disagree with her, I see. With copious misleading verbiage to back herself in. Or is that persiflage?

    You must of read it; I only got as far as “daretotread”, and then it was Barney in Go Dau commenting on the pounding his scroll wheel was getting.

    Fred

    I hope that you do not think that was a clever post

    Being a narrow minded git I suppose is par for the course.

    I will call out EVERY poster who is hypocritical, anti Democratic or unjust.

    I will not apologise for doing this nor will I be bullied by RW ALP phobics into being silent.

    Yes I know it makes me unpopular but if the price of popularity is to be a sycophantic fool then I will accept the consequences.

    Jeez I cpould come on here and post turbull baddy, Shorten goody, Trump aaaarrrhhhh, in boring infinitum.

    But why bother. Posting predicable ALP talk lines is hardly a useful or interesting ay to spend my time. Sudoko is more interesting.

  26. There is nothing ‘extreme about being a democratic socialist, therefore the only extremist is you Boer War and your Grouper agenda.

  27. DTT,

    Glad to see you are still ploughing on, old bean.

    History says that following the fall of the Soviet Union, Ukraine wanted to move towards democracy and closer ties with the EU, but Yanukovych pulled out of an agreement with the EU at the last minute and signed a deal with Russia, sparking a wave of protest that lead to Yanukovych fleeing Ukraine for Russia.

    “After the breakup of the Soviet Union, Ukraine endured years of corruption, mismanagement, lack of economic growth, currency devaluation, and problems in securing funding from public markets.[38][39] Successive Ukrainian governments in the 2000s sought a closer relationship with the European Union (EU).[40][41] One of the measures meant to achieve this was an association agreement with the European Union, which would have provided Ukraine with funds in return for liberalising reforms.[42] President Yanukovych announced his intention to sign the agreement, but ultimately refused to do so at the last minute.[43] This sparked a wave of protests called the “Euromaidan” movement.[44] During these protests Yanukovych signed a treaty and multibillion-dollar loan with Russia.[44] The Ukrainian security forces cracked down on the protesters, further inflaming the situation and resulting in a series of violent clashes in the streets of Kiev.[45] As tensions rose, Yanukovych fled to Russia and did not return.[44]”

    Then a new Government formed in Ukraine, which of course Russia did not recognise.

    “The newly appointed interim government of Ukraine signed the EU association agreement and agreed to reform the country’s judiciary and political systems, as well as its financial and economic policies. The International Monetary Fund pledged more than $18 billion in loans contingent on Ukraine’s adopting those reforms The revolution was followed by pro-Russian unrest in some south-eastern regions,[50][51] a standoff with Russia regarding the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol,[52][53] and a war between the Ukrainian government and Russia-backed separatists in the Donbass.[54][55][56]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution

    I like democracy. I don’t think you do DTT. The Ukraine is another perfect example of how Putin hates democracy. It is objectively alarming how full to the brim of Kremlin propaganda you are.

    Oh, and seeing you “have read Le Carre”, here is a wonderful excerpt from “The Russia House” of an exchange between Barley, a dishevelled London publisher who frequents Russia to sell literature, and Walter, a British Intelligence officer. The come back from Walter is priceless.

    Yet Barley remained compliant in the face of this renewed onslaught. ‘I said I believed in Gorbachov,’ he said equably, giving himself a sip of water. ‘They mightn’t, I did. I said the West’s job was to find the other half of him, and the East’s was to recognise the importance of the half they had. I said that if the Americans had ever bothered as much about disarmament as they had about putting some fool on the moon or pink stripes into toothpaste, we’d have had disarmament long ago. I said the West’s greatest sin was to believe we could bankrupt the Soviet system by raising and bidding on the arms race, because that way we were gambling with the fate of mankind. I said that by shaking our sabres the West had given the Soviet leaders the excuse to keep their gates locked and run a garrison state.’

    Walter let out a whinnying laugh and cupped his gappy teeth with his hairless hand. ‘Oh my Lord!’ So WE’RE to blame for Russia’s ills. Oh, and I think that’s MARVELLOUSLY rich! You don’t think by any chance they did it to themselves, for instance? Locked themselves up inside their own paranoia? No, he doesn’t, I can see.’

  28. hungry jack @ #177 Monday, July 9th, 2018 – 2:59 pm

    “Cameron you are tragic. There was just a presidential election in Russia. No one suggests it was not fair. (eh?) You seem to be fundamentally anti democratic – democracy is great so long as OUR guys win. (eh) Fundamentally you are more totalitarian and anti Democracy that Putin.(eh)

    When you compare the Russian election with the travesty of the US system in electing Trump, any rational person would award the democracy prize to Russia. (eh)So take a chill pill and get over your phobia.”
    russian troll

    USA troll

    See i can do that too.

    What makes me a Russian troll when AR and Cameron and others spout propaganda strait form the CIA playbook.

    What you cannot handle is anyone who thinks outside the box. As I say narrow minded indoctrinated gits.

  29. You know things are bad for the GOP when the pro-Democrat protestors are active in Kentucky:

    McConnell chased from KY restaurant by protesters

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was followed to his car Saturday by protesters who hurled both personal insults and political rhetoric at him while he left a Kentucky restaurant, The Washington Post reported Sunday.

    The encounter, which took place in a parking lot outside of a Louisville restaurant, was captured on camera by one of the protesters. In the video, you can hear the group of protesters chanting “vote you out!” and “abolish ICE!” to the Republican senator from Kentucky. One man can be heard calling the senator “turtle head” and repeatedly saying “we know where you live” as the senator and two dining companions climb into their parked vehicle.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/08/politics/mitch-mcconnell-louisville-protest/index.html

    May none of Trump’s enablers be able to enjoy a quiet dinner out, ever again. 🙂

  30. Russians election under Putin are kinda like having one contestant in the competition, you already know the result, but you go through the motions anyway, just so you can make it feel like you earned it.
    I am sure Trump is very jealous.

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