Newspoll has the Coalition gaining a point on last fortnight to narrow the gap to 51-49, maintaining a pattern over the past six polls of movement back and forth between 51-49 and 52-48. The Coalition is up a point on the primary vote to 39%, only the second time it has reached that level since early November 2016 (the previous such occasion being three polls ago), while Labor and the Greens are both down a point, to 37% and 9% respectively, and One Nation is steady on 6%. However, a straightforward application of 2016 election preferences, rather than the more Coalition-friendly split of One Nation preferences that Newspoll has adopted reflecting recent state election results, would still leave Labor’s lead at 52-48.
Perhaps the best news for the government is a two point increase in Malcolm Turnbull’s approval rating to 42%, which is his best result from Newspoll since March 2016, while his disapproval is down two to 48%, its lowest since the poll on the eve of the July 2016 election. Conversely, Bill Shorten is down one on approval 32% and up two on disapproval to 57%, although Turnbull’s lead on preferred prime minister is unchanged at 46-31. The poll was conducted THursday to Sunday from a sample of 1609.
BiGD
We have to read them to know they don’t conform to our specific world view so that we can then not read them.
I only don’t read things in principle, not in practice.
SHY says she is consulting her lawyers. Don’t settle for less than $200,000 SHY!
Oh Shut Up Fulvio otherwise they will think we are all gay people who live in the West.
What, in Law, are the alleged words said to constitute the actionable defamation?
Attacking Albo (or any other potential leader) doesn’t necessarily make Bill Shorten look any better.
Rex,
Attacking Bill doesn’t make any other leader look better.
I’m asking only because all I’ve caught up with is the snide comment made by Leyenhelm (sp) in parliament last week.
IMO, they are not fit to print here, but suffice it to say, they were specific enough to Senator Hanson-Young to be considered defamatory.
Edit: Fulvio, Leyonhjelm then repeated his comment, and made an additional, much more defamatory comment, on Sky News.
There won’t be a public interest defence and if SHY has a partner the damages will be pretty steep!
Abuse per say, even vile and disgusting abuse, doesn’t necessarily constitute defamation.
I hope she’s had some preliminary advice.
Fulvio: the
Oh, and if Leyonjhelm gets sued, it’s hard to see how Fox could pick up the tab (that would make it a political donation!)
Fulvio, the Guardian has an article which basically sets it out.
Fulvio Sammut says: Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:16 pm
I’m asking only because all I’ve caught up with is the snide comment made by Leyenhelm (sp) in parliament last week
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Here is a small bit to see : there is a screen print
Full article
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/leyonhjelm-should-apologise-over-hanson-young-comment-says-government-minister
Hope she sues the creep for thousands
Oh, I see, thanks, JimmyD.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/sarah-hanson-young-threatens-legal-action-over-david-leyonhjelm-s-sexual-comments-20180702-p4zozm.html
a r @ #245 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 1:56 pm
What’s a world view? The view from this office? I hope not.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jul/02/sarah-hanson-young-legal-advice-sky-news-sexist-progamme
Leyonhjelm actions are just political maneuvering.
The motion to relax the ban on tasers and such for women as protection was to test and show support for his backers and probably a pitch for the shooters and fishers vote to say we are there for you on gun control.
He would get support for his reactions to SHY, reports putting his side say he was reacting to insinuations that all men are rapists when all that was said was that women didn’t need weapons to protect themselves when the problem was of men attacking women that needed to be addressed.
His stance on Sky news just carried along on a similar theme. The five who backed the motion are all competing for a similar base of voters, white males ignored by society.
Going to go outside and roll a fag
Could all you devoted members of the NSW and Victorian right wing put a spoke in it and STOP doing the work of Turnbull and Rupert.
So Albo is positioning himself for a leadership bid in the event that Shorten does not get over the line.This is possible and it makes obvious sense for people to position themseves. That does not make himdislyal or a Labor rat or amny of the other vile accusations thatare thrown at him
Would he be the better leader – jury is out but I lean towards NO BUT only a bleeding fool would not be a little concerned at the direction of the polls.
Shorten has copped two stuff ups this year and the strain is telling. First the citizenship fiasco where he is blamed for his statement that everything in the ALP house was rosy. Of course it was not his fault but he did mishandle it. Far more serious from Shorten’s position is that it has catapulted his real danger into the parliament a few years too soon and on a wave of glory. I am speaking of Ged. I assume Albo is also worried hence his positioning.
Now recently he stuffed up on the tax. His problem was NOT what he said but his failure to consult. Moreover I am reluctantly leaning towards Andrew’s pessimistic view that the backflip did damage.
However my real concern is that Turnbull and co seem to have their act together. I am not sure Shorten can win against Turnbull without the endless stuff ups. I am wondering if some sort of a deal has been brokered within the LNP, such that the Monkey pod pull back. Maybe Dutton is to become deputy. Bishop may be set to resign. She seems to have lost interest.
I am just guessing but lately there has GASP seemed to be some unity in the Libs.
This is my concern. I do not think Bill Shorten is the man to take on a united Liberal mob. For that you need colour and passion. Which I might add leaves out most of the leadership. They are all competent but few are colourful
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/02/newstarts-hand-to-mouth-existence-cant-go-on-for-another-25-years
Reporting back from Centrelink with updates:.
Centrelink has now approved the section 24 application and now owe us 3 months payments, on top of what they owe us from the AAT Tribunal.
Shorten has passion — just need to watch yesterday’s speech to know that.
BUT
He is taking the ‘energy’ out of the hysteria that began with Abbott … I suspect trying to return some integrity to the discourse
@Peg
It’s LNP fault for not raising the new start stop blaming Labor for something they haven’t done yet.
Z
25 years….it’s the fault of both major parties.
Zoidlord says: Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:34 pm
Reporting back from Centrelink with updates:.
Centrelink has now approved the section 24 application and now owe us 3 months payments, on top of what they owe us from the AAT Tribunal.
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Good News Zoidlord – maybe you and your wife now have a few $ to celebrate with …..
Some thoughtful commentary on the Trump phenomenon – we are not free of these malicious forces in Australia:
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/scholar-warns-matters-much-worse-trump-changed-trajectory-history-not-better/
@Peg
Greens are equally to blame.
@phoenixRED
Cheers ph!
Long time coming, almost a year in our book, next step is compensation, with Act of Grace.
Rex Douglas @ #167 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 11:55 am
No. You can’t understand logic. One swallow does not a summer make. So one rat in the ranks does not a disunited party make.
I can only classify what you have stated above as clutching at straws. You use them to make your straw men..
jenauthor @ #269 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:39 pm
Jen
Up until about 6 weeks ago I would have agreed but now I am not so sure. However it is way, way too lae to even consider a change so all genuine ALP types should shut up and not pour fuel on the fire.
Bill Shorten is the leader. Perhaps on July 29 we can revisit it but until then we should all put a spoke on it and NOT buy into the meme which is deliberately started by the real enemy to sow discord.
Rex Douglas @ #254 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:15 pm
Tell it to Albo.
Did the ABC broadcast the Bill Shorten press conference from Gosford?
booleanbach @ #273 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:42 pm
Bool
I think the article Poroti posted is MUCH better than this one. Much more thoughtful. This is just the same tired old democrat “we wos wobbed” stuff
Rex and co are a study in operant conditioning experimentation
Say the same thing over and over until it is real (in your own mind).
It was the primary method of mass indoctrination of the Nazi Party … ‘nuff said
“I do not think Shorten is the man to take on a united Liberal mob”
??????
From someone who otherwise tries to convince that they are anti the “Liberal mob”.
Bastiaan/Sukkar/Cormack/Kennett/Costello/the Establishment
And that is just in Victoria!!!!
As Malcolm Fraser once said, the Liberal Party is no longer a Liberal Party – and that is why those sitting under its banner are a “Liberal mob” of misfits each with ego and a self serving agenda
DTT
explain what you mean by ‘genuine ALP types’
Are you talking the ALP of 100 years ago? 50? 20?
‘Going to go outside and roll a fag’
You’re not an ex-Adelaide copper are you boomy?
Rex Douglas @ #254 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:15 pm
Attacking an existing Leader is a sure way to drive your party to the fucking ground ya green twats.
‘As Malcolm Fraser once said, the Liberal Party is no longer a Liberal Party’
It never was.
I keep on wondering why Rex, whose perception about leadership he believes to be second to none, never attacks an obviously incompetent leader, Richard Di Natale?
C@tmomma @ #277 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:50 pm
I wonder if any other Labor supporters here agree with you that Albo is a rat ?
jenauthor @ #283 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:56 pm
The Liberal Party use it all the time.
‘Nuff said.
jenauthor @ #283 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:58 pm
No I am talking about us – most of us who are members of the ALP or strong sympathisers. We should not be engaging in the leadership stuff, and especially not denigrating ANY leadership contender.
I was particularly shocked by Cat’s labor rat stuff which was straight out of Young Labor circa 1972.
As I say if the by-elections go badly then perhaps we should discuss it but even then we should keep it civil
Lave the nastiness to the obvious LNP trolls.
jenauthor @ #282 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:56 pm
Comparing me to a nazi ?
That’s a new one 😆
paywalled at the Oz “Abbott says he is willing to lead again if party wants him”.
apparently they’ve told him they’ll give him a call if herpes, HIV, polio, bubonic plague and Michaelia Cash all turn it down.
he remains hopeful and waiting by the phone
Rex Douglas @ #290 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 3:02 pm
I’ll agree that Di Natale is a rat. Does that count?
AE: “…the tory economics editor of the West Australian ”
I don’t read the West Australian, but if you are talking about Shane Wright, I’ve seen him quite a few times on Insiders and I can’t remember him ever demonstrating any Tory tendencies. And, as far as I am aware, he has never worked for any Lib or Nat politicians. He seems to me to be a little bit to the left of centre.
Zoidlord @ #271 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:04 pm
Congrats. The bastards didn’t win. 🙂
According to Twitter, Mal is announcing lots of lovely gifts for people, including whooping cough vaccine which was already available free of cost for pregnant women.
One of Mal’s habits is to re-announce announcements.
mundo @ #6170 Monday, July 2nd, 2018 – 2:58 pm
Duncan?