ReachTEL’s swing to the Coalition hasn’t shifted BludgerTrack, which had already priced it in based on recent Newspoll results. The Coalition makes a fractional gain on two-party preferred, which translates into a gain of one on the seat projection, that being in New South Wales. Nothing new on the leadership trends this week (I don’t use the ReachTEL numbers for this, because they structure their response options for leadership rating questions differently to other pollsters). Full results from the link below:
Methodological note: As explained on the BludgerTrack methodology page, a pollster’s bias adjustments are based on their historic performance, where there are enough pre-election polls from the pollster to base it on; or, where it isn’t, by comparing their results this term with a trend measure of pollsters in the first category. I have moved ReachTEL from the first category to the second, because it had lately been getting “corrected” for a pro-Coalition bias that its recent results have consistently failed to exhibit.
Dan Gulberry @ #842 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 4:51 pm
Could Wayne be his sock puppet?
DG
Your constant personal sniping about a lack of facts is most amusing because not only do you not deploy any facts you make up the most delicious bullshit.
Fact 1. Where is Di Natale’s costings for renationalizing the banks in relation to the housing market?
I am sorry I was rude to you. It is stupid and unwarranted to speculate about other people’s lives and how they choose to spend their time.
rossmcg @ #846 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:03 pm
Classic!
Of course recruiting all the fundy nutters will drive relatively sane members out and leave a completely unelectable rump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ore0cf7SATc
An affiliation between the Mormons and the RW of the Liberal Party is a natural fit, based on US analysis.
lizzie @ #850 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:11 pm
Based on fake information unless the Q&A website is wrong.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/
Boerwar @12.39pm
<i."IMO, Pell is up on the wrong charges. He should be being sued for failure of duty of care over several decades."
This is an opinion which appears to be based on a misconception of our legal system.
1. Pell is up on criminal charges, ie being prosecuted by the Crown. There is no such criminal charge as “failure of duty of care”. He is up on the appropriate charges.
2. Pell’s victim’s could sue him in civil law, to make him return them to “whole”, done of course by equating a financial figure with the damage he caused them.
3. But there is no civil law cause of action for “failure of duty of care”. That is, you cannot sue someone for failure of duty of care. So your suggestion is hyperbole.
More research needed Boerwar. Perhaps you could visit the OJ Simpson matters to shine a light on the difference between criminal court proceedings and civil court proceedings.
Nicholas @ #853 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:13 pm
Relax, it didn’t trouble me and you were partly right. 😀
I may disagree with you and am probably a bit harsh at times, but you are certainly not one of the nasty people on PB.
You actually remind me a bit of Trog.
psyclaw
You do rather sound like you know what your are talking about.
I will make just the one change: the law should enable all RC child rape victims to be suing Pell for a lack of duty of care.
IMO, he should be behind bars for the rest of his life.
psyclaw @ #858 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:22 pm
Stated much more eloquently and comprehensively than I did earlier.
I am not a lawyer, but I do understand the difference between Criminal and Civil matters.
boomy1 @ #840 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 4:47 pm
Why should we tug our forelocks for them?
Boerwar @ #860 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:25 pm
Oh I see.
Without any trial, verdict or sentence.
Too bad about presumption of innocence.
C@tmomma @ #862 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:27 pm
You simply reveal much about your character and true nature.
Thank you.
Boerwar @ #852 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:13 pm
Speaking of delicious bullshit, di Natalie made no such promise or claim. You pulled that one out of your arse.
FACT: He called for a “people’s bank” to be established. A long way from “nationalising the banks”.
FACT: Greece’s problems were caused by the Greek government being negligent in collecting taxes in the first place.
FACT: Venezuela has had hard hitting sanctions imposed on them by the US for having the audacity to claim Venezuela’s oil reserves belong to the Venezuelan people not Anglo/American oil behemoths (shades of Mossadegh/Iran).
There you go, three real facts to counteract the “facts” you made up and continue to spout.
It’s got nothing to do with forelock tugging. (which I thought was an English reference historically)
It’s simply a case of standards you apply evenly.
If someone said that about Julia Gillard you would be the first to come out swinging.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
p.s
I thought once that Julia had a long neck like a Giraffe but it was a lovely one, elegant and graceful. 🙂
lizzie @ #850 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:11 pm
Lizzie, I like to think the best of people, but by Jupiter, mental contortions of monumental proportions would be required to transform my opinion of the aforementioned colourful identities.
Note;- I just put Jupiter in case the Mount Olympus stories have any validity. Perhaps renting Jupiter’s Palace as a hot pillow residence could be a goodly earner.
As noted with the LNP attempt to round up the usual suspects (Mormons, in this case) to bolster their cause; the Gods of the Ancients may be next.
Once again, I fear that I am going around in circles. Perhaps I could appear and be
a bigly success on Q & A.
When I was just a wee little lad, full of health and joy (The Marvelous Toy), one Zane Grey wrote of his soft hearted gunman Jim Lassiter’s contempt for the Mormon Bishop. (Not a lot to do with anything).
Bemused has pointed us to the ABC Q&A info regarding participants for tonight. Quite a decent array.
Could be interesting. 😵
Another note. The latest Windows 10 Insider update enables Screen Snips, Screen Cutouts (rectangles) and Full Screen Snip – the above item for Q&A is a screen snip. Very useful.
I am using my protective Gravatar in the fond belief that the BS from various sources during the next few days will be deflected and returned to sender. 😲
Momma,
You’ve got all the usual suspects chomping at the bit of patriarchal interpretation and standards setting!
Go you good thing!
“recruiting all the fundy nutters will drive relatively sane members out and leave a completely unelectable rump.” (Bemused)
Unless. of course, they manage to keep the “Liberal”-voting sheep ignorant of the fact that the party is becoming more and more nutty. The elimination of real liberals has been happening since JWH’s day and yet 47-48% of the voters still prefer the now-misnamed party. How obvious does the nuttiness have to become before all the habituated “Liberal” voters actually notice that they’re voting for a party of RWNJs and fundies? Few seem to have noticed so far. They see that naice Mr Turnbull from Point Paiper doing his watered-down-Menzies imitation and think they’re still voting for the party of Menzies. It’s a worry…
Memories!
here’s the latest Rowe.
DG
‘He called for a “people’s bank” to be established. A long way from “nationalising the banks”.
Ah! A fact!
But wait! What exactly is a people’s bank? How much is it to be capitalized for? From whence the capital? For what purpose?
As Malcolm Fraser said, the Liberal Party is no longer a Liberal Party
In Victoria we still have the Cormack issue before the Courts
And the Liberal Party CBD premises on the market – I wonder what the extent of the mortgage debt is on that property?
Boerwar @ #872 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:59 pm
Australia Post, which is still Govt owned, is looking at getting a banking licence.
Kaynay @ 5:49 pm
What is “Gravatar”?
Most of the above post is Greek to me.
Ven @ #875 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:03 pm
Google is your friend!! 🙂
https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=gravatar&oq=Gravatar&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.2409j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Jack
Indeed. The extreme Christians and others taking charge of the Tories know that there are a goodly number of people who will vote for their parties regardless of the personal beliefs and agendas of the individuals.
To modify the old joke a bit: Why do you vote Liberal? to keep Labor out of office.
While the Tories have wall-to-wall support in the media and the still influential business community who are telling people all the time that whatever bad happens it is or will be Labor’s fault they will always be competitive.
And the nutters don’t even need a huge number of MPs elected. Just look how the minority is pulling Turnbull’s strings.
There was a fallout in the Liberal Party in WA after the last State election where a few of the Christian Right lost seats and there were murmurs that their influence was too great.
But they won’t go away. It will be interesting to see what the Victorian election turns up in the way of candidates.
It’s good to see Australian Cricketers showing they have more depth as people than has been demonstrated through the “Ball tampering” debate. I’m not a Vegan but I encourage people to put their views.
https://www.livekindly.co/australian-cricketer-adam-zampa-stars-new-vegan-bus-campaign-we-are-all-animals/
Ven, gravatars are the little images like Bemused’s Thinker statue (as if!), Kayjay’s man in tinfoil hat, and my jackaranda flowers. Somebody who remembers (not me) might tell you how to register your own.
‘FACT: Greece’s problems were caused by the Greek government being negligent in collecting taxes in the first place.’
1. Um, it was a series of Greek governments.
2. It is true that Greek governments did not bother to collect taxes and also that Greek governments welched on any and all deals to fix their tax regime.
3. It is also true that the Greek governments borrowed more than they could possibly pay back.
4. It is also true that the SYRIZANS promised that they would fix all this.
5. It is also true that the SYRIZANS beggared Greece. They sold off the farm. They raided the pension funds. They emptied the banks. The caused capital strike and capital flight. Greek multinationals picked up their HQ and buggared off.
6. It is also true that their chief negotiator, absolute hero of the Greens and the NMT, was thrown out of the Greek Government by the SYRIZANs. Turns out he was part of the problem. But hey. He is currently working on setting up a new party. It should be a corker.
7. The SYRIZANS proposed to fix everything by threatening to leave the EU and by not paying their debts.
8. The EU said, be our guests. Just eff off. The EU called their bluff. The SYRIZANs caved. Big time. They are setting up an actual tax collection system as we speak.
9. The short term and long term rates paid by the SYRIZANS went through the roof. Despite the blandishments of the NMT crowd, borrowing money has consequences.
Main message: there is no such thing as a free lunch.
BTW, how are you going with digging up Di Natale’s costings for the Volksbank? You know. Like a fact.
As for sanctions on Venezuela, what do you expect. They stole a whole lot of property and thought that they could get away with it.
Someone steals your house, you come after them.
This notion of NMT that you can play with OP’s money and that there are no consequences is absurd.
Jack Aranda @ #879 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:07 pm
Careful, your envy of my Gravatar is showing! 😀
Actually, I have had a few others over the years.
DG
Another fact you might be able to help us all with: how much is Di Natale’s UBI going to cost? I am sure that being driven by facts rather than brainfarts the Greens would have a number to hand.
After all, they are going to borrow it from somebody.
To the nearest trillion would be fine.
Greensborough Growler @ #878 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:06 pm
Yes, so what?
Some animals eat other animals, some eat plants and some eat both!
Is this what Cory was warning us about? 🙂
bemused @ #882 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:12 pm
A chicken on a yellow flag was my favourite!
lizzie @ #799 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 2:57 pm
It is not a coincidence that we are expected to reach 450 PPM C02 – a level once regarded as ‘catastrophic’ – in about 16 years, and in a very similar timeframe (18 years) we will have once and for all exceeded the IPCC’s carbon budget designed to keep warming below 2 degrees – i.e. we will have reached the point where 2 degrees of warming becomes ‘likely’.
And there is still no sensible climate policy even being discussed in Australia. Instead, the idiots in our government are steaming ahead with a disastrous ‘big Australia’ migration policy, which will make our C02 emissions even worse than currently predicted.
It just makes you want to scream … or weep.
Ross, “Why do you vote Liberal? to keep Labor out of office” isn’t a joke – it’s the motivating reason for lots of naice middle-clawss people who were brought up to see the Unions and the ALP as a nasty Stalinist plot to take over Australia and make it subordinate to the Kremlin. Some of them still seem to think that way, years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and years after the ALP became the party that is more interested in human rights than the one-time Liberals. Let’s just hope the number who think that way stays below 49% for another 12 months and 11 days.
Greensborough Growler @ #885 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:13 pm
When did you use that? I must have missed it.
I always see your dog and interpret it as ‘barking mad’. Appropriate.
Bemused from earlier on…………….yep, have been watching the SBS thing on Sunday. It is a repeat but a good one. We tend to forget this days just how toxic the whole Communist move to the West was in those days…………One wonders however, just how many ex-Nazis got away with murder as the Americans and the West in general closed their eyes to their previous doings? Bit like the Japanese scientist who practised their chemical warfare on their hapless Chinese guinea pigs – and whose ‘results’ were happily collected by the Americans at the time. I thought “Dr Strangelove” was a great movie………………….said it all I thought.
Bemused @ 6:02 pm
“Australia post”, which is still government owned. But for how long?
We had a bank called “Commonwealth Bank”, which was called people’s bank. and wasn’t sold by Paul Keating?
We still have public listed bank called “Commonwealth bank” which performed money laundering, not storing customer data properly and has highest profits of all banks in Australia, which will get tax cuts if it is upto this government. Did this bank charge adviser fee without providing service?
“Biatch”-y, even…
Barney in Go Dau @ #884 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:13 pm
It’s actually a young man articulating a firmly held position that he uses as his compass of life. Whether I agree or not, he’s being totally honest and deserves credit. I also put the comment in the context of the “Ball Tampering’ scandal.
Snark as much as you like, comrade.
Barney @6:05 says
Google is you friend
I was too busy readimg PB postsb 🙂
bemused @ #888 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:15 pm
I always see your “Thinker” gravatar and think of the irony!
p1
We experienced a record temp near Whyalla for the time of the year. 41 degrees. That was in the shade. Out in the sun it was much hotter. We also experienced a couple of monster dust storms. Not pleasant. And, as you hint at, a harbinger.
Spoke to a farmer from east of Elliston. Wheat/sheep. Quite chirpy. They have had a run of good seasons.
I mentioned that I had noticed the sheep being hand fed all over the Peninsula. He thought that this season was ‘late’. Like last year. Sowing was being held back. Too dry. But his eyes did light up when he discussed wool prices. He is getting 1600 cents a kilogram.
That is, nominally, better than the famous pound for a pound.
Greensborough Growler @ #892 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:19 pm
No, snark!
He can believe what wants, I’m just pointing out that there is no logic in the slogan and the message behind it. 🙂
Tricot @ #889 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:16 pm
I must have missed it when it was previously shown.
The most intriguing to me was a couple of weeks ago when they had a couple of American soldiers of German descent interrogating German civilians as well as military to find out what made them tick. Quite chilling actually.
There was some pretty nasty retribution carried out on German civilians too. We don’t seem to hear much about that.
And yes, way too many perpetrators of terrible atrocities went unpunished.
Barney in Go Dau @ #896 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:24 pm
As always, you and logic are seeing different people atm.
Greensborough Growler @ #898 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:25 pm
Then surely a mental giant such as yourself can point out where it is lacking! 🙂
Greensborough Growler @ #868 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 5:49 pm
I calls them how I sees them. 🙂