ReachTEL’s swing to the Coalition hasn’t shifted BludgerTrack, which had already priced it in based on recent Newspoll results. The Coalition makes a fractional gain on two-party preferred, which translates into a gain of one on the seat projection, that being in New South Wales. Nothing new on the leadership trends this week (I don’t use the ReachTEL numbers for this, because they structure their response options for leadership rating questions differently to other pollsters). Full results from the link below:
Methodological note: As explained on the BludgerTrack methodology page, a pollster’s bias adjustments are based on their historic performance, where there are enough pre-election polls from the pollster to base it on; or, where it isn’t, by comparing their results this term with a trend measure of pollsters in the first category. I have moved ReachTEL from the first category to the second, because it had lately been getting “corrected” for a pro-Coalition bias that its recent results have consistently failed to exhibit.
It is almost an existential question.
If we did not eat chickens there would only be a few thousand scratching for a dismal living in the shrinking jungles of India. Instead of 50 billion chickens a year getting all they can eat, protection from snakes, mongooses and whatever, masses of medicines to keep them healthy, lots of friends, plus warm dry living conditions.
C
No worries. Just don’t bother whinging and wanking on about it when it comes home to roost.
Greens policy committee when someone mentions having to pay back borrowings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVv0RkiG4U
Barney in Go Dau @ #899 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:27 pm
The other person has it!
So, eat the chickens to save the chickens…only joking!
Did someone mention St Julia of Gillard? 🙂
Boer
Indeed. Many of our domesticated animals have no true wild equivalents – they’re extinct. To believe that human beings would keep various species going as pets is naive. We can see how quickly breeds die out when they cease to have commercial value – the farmers who do try and keep rare breeds alive encourage people to eat them, as it’s the best way of ensuring the breed’s survival.
A vegetarian or vegan community wouldn’t tolerate much competition from feral cows etc for their crops – and, of course, would be quite right to exterminate them as non-native animals.
Tricot
It is an interesting conundrum. But the situation is a bit trickier than that. The wild species is being contaminated genetically by breeding with domestic chickens. The true species is, literally, on the way to extinction.
Tricot @ #905 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:32 pm
Wasn’t that an early South Park episode? 🙂
zoomster
The thinking of vegetarians and vegans is, literally, vertebratist.
When they talk about ‘animals’ they are only talking about vertebrate animals.
They don’t give a toss that millions of individual invertebrates must die in order for vegetarians and vegans to eat.
And that is before you get to issues such as road kill and habitat destruction and the consequent death to animals.
BiDG
It is pretty well what the Greens and their NMT voodoo economists propose to do with the economy: eat it in order to save it.
…evolutionary speaking, being a food source for human beings is a good move.
Nicholas explaining how the economy really works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY
zoomster
As is being very small and eating humans.
Ali G mentions it later in this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_la5XiQJdk
Boer
That didn’t turn out so well for the human flea…
Here’s a disastrous Banner for Labor!
We have canine teeth and grinder molars for a perfectly good reason: we are omnivores. If we only eat meat, we get sick. If we only eat vegies, we get sick. If we eat some of both we stay healthy.
How sweet!
https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/993276660903428096
z
They seem to be keeping up. The US spends around $9 billion a year on fleas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea#Relationship_with_humans
Greensborough Growler @ #904 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:31 pm
So, as usual you’re full of it and can’t back your statements up.
There’s no logic behind the statement,
We have specific categories for animals that highlights this, carnivore, omnivore and herbivore.
Humans are omnivore, although there are some people, usually by personal choice, that choose not to eat meat.
Good luck to them. 🙂
BK
Insane.
BK @ #919 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 3:43 pm
But it’s her firmly held belief!!! 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
Anyone planning to attend?
Speaking of Chicken..
We had chips and chicken for dinner tonight 😀
I don’t know enough about this issue to express an opinion. The Greens are unhappy with Labor but that’s nothing new.
Zoidlord
Chips ! You cruel bustard, won’t someone think of the plants ? !!!! 🙂
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“BBC – Earth – Plants can see, hear and smell – and respond
Plants, according to Jack C Schultz, “are just very slow animals”.
This is not a misunderstanding of basic biology. Schultz is a professor in the Division of Plant Sciences at the University of Missouri in Columbia,”
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170109-plants-can-see-hear-and-smell-and-respond
Citizen
I am on Tony Burke’s mail list so I just received a message explaining Labor’s view on the Murray-Darling changes. He seems happy that he has won concessions though it is mostly beyond my ken.
Of course the Greens are unhappy. Labor has done a deal with the government. The Greens of course have never, ever done a deal.
Barney in Go Dau @ #921 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:47 pm
You need more roots and vegetables. Bemused recommends himself!
Zoidlord
A chicken place in Canberra like KFC sells “chicken chippies” which look like potato chips but seem to be made out of chicken mush. Have you tried such a delicacy? (Once is enough for me.)
poroti @ #927 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 4:06 pm
Do they die when you pick them?
Because I’m just about to grate some onions to put in my sausage rolls.
Zoid
The Department of Homeland and Potatohead Security will be knocking on the door shortly.
Barney in Go Dau @ #931 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 7:11 pm
There’s nothing more horrible than hearing a tomato scream!
GG is right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lRdzQGseU
Hahaha @ all.
Btw TV says positive budget news.
For fuck sake.
The government’s budget blueprint:
rossmcg
There were, IMO, three live options.
1. Have the NSW and Vic governments walk away from the Plan. This was entirely on the cards, was almost certainly the worst outcome for the environment, and almost certainly the outcome had the Greens had their way. What a surprise.
2. Reduce the environment target.
3. Don’t reduce the environment target but offset it by being smart about how to achieve environmental outcomes. This is what has been agreed to.
So, the usual Greens pointless and destructive wedging of Labor. Meh.
The argument against 1 and 2 are self-evident. They are FAILs. The argument against 3 is that there is no guarantee that this alternative will deliver the promised outcomes because most of the slated projects are unproven.
IMO, we have the best of a bad world but at least we have a world.
We recently drove through much of the width of the MDB. I have been an irrigator, I own irrigation water rights and my extended families used scads of irrigation water.
IMO global warming will turn the Plan on its arse within a generation.
There are several reasons. A major one is that small increases in average temperatures in dry spells have an algorithmic impact on run off.
There were some interesting things to see. One is the age classes in Callitris pines that were able to generate following respectively the introduction of myxo and calici. In places they are like straight lines. The other you could not see: 90-95% of the MDB fish biomass is european carp. The introduction of the carp virus will potentially have an explosive impact on the fish fauna. The third is that the salinity tiger is being ridden, not resolved. The fourth is that there is a direct relationship between low biodiv and high productivity and vice versa. The fifth is that I had a strong feeling of studying stranded assets. The future of food and fibre production will involve neither animals nor vascular plants. It will not involve farms. It will involve factories and it will depend on genetic technologies and hyper-cheap solar energy.
Boerwar @ #895 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 6:23 pm
A disaster is always good news for someone only interested in making a buck 🙁
Citizen
Background Briefing just had a really interesting 2 part series on the Murray Darling.
Part 1
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/murray-darling-basin-crisis/9687538
Being food for humans is guaranteed species survival.
Just ask wheat and rice.
You can’t help but think that the Government’s budget Strategy is not going to help them that much.
So far we have lots of leaks of the alleged goodies. Social Media is all over it. But, Social media has a notoriously short attention span. So, in the end, the Government have given Labor and the various pressure groups time to discern what’s happening and they will be hunting bear tomorrow.
Sure, there might be a couple of unannounced goodis. But, giving everyone a look see before the event is asking for a bollocking.
The unicorn called “Budget Bounce’ might be just prancing away in to the forest already.
To Whom It May Concern.
The Dashboard – Profile refers to
Apologies for earlier post concerning Jupiter.
Although I realize that most posters are scholars of Ancient Greece, my reference was to Ancient Roman Gods.
I am currently brushing up on my
And so to sleep, perchance to …………….(Shakespeare again, dammit).
Goodnight all. 💤💤💤
I am an omnivore. I enjoy the carnivore side of that. I am on a diet, so I am mostly herbivore at the moment*.
*note: at the moment!
p1
You make an excellent point. Whilever you link production to unpredictable high biodiv systems which are in turn locked into the weather, you will have disasters, shortages and high prices.
The reason that irrigation/low biodiv systems are so popular with investors is that they reduce significantly the risk premiums required to cover high biodiv uncertainty and high rainfall uncertainty.
I did think of you while we were driving past the cotton crops. Harvest time. Some paddocks literally ran from the road side to the horizon. More ‘snow’ on the flats than up Kozzie way.
Puffytmd @ #943 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 7:39 pm
Some here would like you to eat Boervore!
Big spending is good.
Debt is good.
Deficits are goodTax cuts are good.
The LNP is in government go about your business.
The MSM/ABC will take things from here.
50/50 Newspoll on the way.
KayJay @ #942 Monday, May 7th, 2018 – 7:39 pm
Goodnight sweet Prince and may flights of angels take thee to thy rest!
GG
I was ruminating, in a non-ruminant sort of way, about exactly that point. In the gym this morning most of the six screens featured lengthy periods of gubbies in high viz talking Santa.
I keep going back to my basic formulation: while wages are stagnant or falling, this Government is gone. A bit of tax lolly ($4 a week) will not save them from this.
If you add falling house prices, more so.
ATM the share market is providing them with their only real world comfort. And I am not sure about how many Australians would change their votes because they are making a quid on the ASX.
Goodnight KayJay. I enjoy your posts. Thank you. Sleep well.
If the bloody irrigators upstream would put into place the low water irrigation techniques used by SA farmers/growers there would be much more water available in the MD system. Same for the towns along the river; the water waste is reprehensible.
Lazy, ignorant bastards.