The latest ReachTEL poll for Sky News is the Coalition’s worst result from that pollster this term, showing Labor with a two-party lead of 54-46, out from 52-48 at the previous poll on January 25. On the primary vote, the Coalition is down a point to 33%, Labor is up one to 37%, the Greens are up one to 11% and One Nation are down one to 7%. Malcolm Turnbull’s lead on the forced response preferred prime minister question is 53-47, down from 54-46. The poll was conducted on Thursday, the evening before Barnaby Joyce’s resignation: it found 57% thought he should indeed resign, against 32% who thought he should remain. A question on who should be Nationals leader had Joyce on 23%, Bridget McKenzie on 15%, Michael McCormack on 11%, Darren Chester on 6% and “don’t know” a formidable 40%.
UPDATE: As noted in comments, the Coalition have done well to make it to 54-46 on ReachTEL’s respondent-allocated two-party preferred result. If 2016 election preference flows are applied, the result is around 55.5-44.5.
A lot of stereotypes of how different “classes” vote aren’t supported by evidence.
Students and professionals vote Left, managers vote Right and I can’t work out the Indies who the tradies and the unemployed vote for. Is it PHON and X?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-01/lewis-our-jobs-no-longer-define-how-we-vote/6585894
Actually – wealth and the lack of need for ‘scraping by’ like a large chunk of the electorate is precisely why many Green’s adherents can afford to support pie-in-the-sky and impractical policies (or at least demand that policies are done “RIGHT NOW”).
For the bigger part of the electorate – they do not have the luxury of not using plastic bags at the shops, or getting rid of all coal mines this instant as they would never be able to afford electricity. Or electric cars. Or rooftop solar.
Yeah, the au pair stuff never sat right with me, particularly since it come out right when Di Natale was campaigning heavily on fighting for penalty rates. I was critical of him for it at the time, and it still strikes me as very poor judgement on his part. Not illegal, no, but more than a bit morally iffy.
Dizzy has come out of his spell and has withdrawn. McCormack v Littleproud.
Labor partisans pile on DiNatale for stiffing his au pairs but hardly a squeak about the Labors SDA for stiffing all their casuals.
jenauthor
Yes, I think about this when campaigns get ramped up – for example, having improved conditions for battery hens, animal liberationists then start lobbying for more and more restrictions on egg production.
All very well for those who can afford to pay twice the price for eggs, but the kid living below the poverty line whose single parent can no longer afford to buy eggs at all gets forgotten.
Will Joyce overcome the temptation the slip the political stiletto between Turnbull’s ribs?
If you want an indication of the visceral hatred, Joyce did not bother letting Turnbull know that his Deputy Prime Minister was quitting. Turnbull learned of it by way of social media.
lizzie @ #200 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:33 pm
They’re all about a sustainable clean environment for all.
z
I realise it’s difficult for you to grasp it’s not about you.
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Confessions
The au pair beat-up is periodically brought up with great gusto on PB by some Laborites desperate for an irrelevant look-over there.
Diogenes
Having worked on construction sites a while back I reckons “Tradies” are full on Phons.
Rex
Oh, so it’s OK for a Green to behave poorly because other people in other parties – or even vaguely connected with them – also behave poorly.
Great set of values, there.
pegasus
In this case, it was clear that Trog hadn’t heard the story. I was careful to point out that di Natale did not behave illegally.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to be even handed about these things…certainly don’t get any credit for it when I do!
I always thought that the au pair thingy was a bit of a beat-up.
(Doesn’t mean I’m a fan of Di Natale.)
zoomster @ #211 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:43 pm
Not at all. Call them all out.
Rex, are you saying Dirty Dick was doing the beetrooter to his au pairs ?
The Libs Prayer.
As soon as Barney resigns back to normal Anti-Labor
I don’t think Elon Musk will be too concerned about Bernardi alluding to him as a conman.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-25/cory-bernardi-conservatives-back-nuclear-dump-for-sa/9482870
poroti
I suspected they were PHON. Aren’t tradies normally members of unions, or do most work as contractors?
Rex Douglas @ #208 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:42 pm
To have any credible claim to be “sustainable”, you have to have a population policy. What is the Greens?
Being Green is the easiest thing in the world.
1. Set your position in relation to whatever the ALP’s current policy is.
2. Smear Labor’s policies as not being pure enough and Lib-lite.
3. Whenever Labor does something that could in anyway be spun as approaching the Greens latest position claim credit, claim it could never have happened without them, smear Labor as not going nearly far enough anyway and just more Lib-lite.
4. Enjoy the freedom to never have to bother with the hard work of building a political majority in order to actually implement a damn thing.
5. Revel in the bliss of never having to be responsible for such implementation nor the natural negative consequences of any change that faces any sort of political opposition.
Green politics has become little more than a salve for a section of an educated middle class looking to alleviate the guilt of their petite bourgeois privilege as inner urban beneficiaries of an expanding knowledge economy, without having to soil themselves even acknowledging that the losers of the economic transformation they have benefited from don’t share their enthusiasms let alone looking to build strong and lasting alliances with them.
Much easier to feel all self righteous and slag off the unwoke masses as bogans, racists, and idiots.
As a political strategy for building a small passionate following it is of course completely rational and sensible. As strategy for gifting power to the right in order to get them to go so far that it provokes the masses to rise up in glorious revolution, well it’s pretty good at the first part…
As a strategy to achieve political power in a democracy with a broad range of views largely antithetical to theirs and structural advantages to the forces of reaction and the status quo it is of course completely shit.
But as the aim isn’t to achieve anything more than a self sustaining niche, the compromises, coalition building and promoting of the only feasible vehicle to the political power required for implementation of even a part of what they claim to stand for would be self defeating.
Labor understands this. The Greens will never be trusted by Labor for the simple realpolitik that the Greens entire strategy revolves around painting the ALP as inadequate as a means to capture a portion of the Labor vote.
A successful ALP is the greatest threat to the Greens vote, so the Greens’ incentive entirely revolves around creating the impression of, if not the substance of Labor failure.
The question is not really whether Di Natale was just this side or just that side of his bedrock employer requirements.
The question is why a wealthy land-owning doctor with an income more than three times the average income (Senate wage alone) would feel inclined to pay his au pairs whatever he judged he could get away with, legally speaking.
Dio,
Thanks for the newer article. Yes, same conclusion Possum came to in his 2010 analysis.
The SYRIZANs are doing their very own Greens thing ATM.
They are engaged in a full bottle war of words about how dare the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia Macedonians use the word ‘Macedonia’ as if they have the right call themselves what they bloody well want.
The Greeks kept Turkey out of the EU.
They are threatening to block the Macedonians if they persist in calling themselves Macedonians and their country Macedonia.
ratsak @ #221 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:50 pm
Rather, the minor parties are place for those dis-satisfied with the political duopoly which has delivered widening inequality and environmental damage.
Dio
“Aren’t tradies normally members of unions, or do most work as contractors?”
Most of them are what were Howards battlers, the aspirationals…. they are contractors, sub-contractors…..don’t belong to unions.
Peg understands this fully.
RD
That pretty much sums it up for me.
Hard to argue with your point there Rex.
The Macedonians desperately need to get into the EU if they are to have an economic future.
So the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonians have taken ‘Alexander’ off the name of their main airport and off their main highway, hoping desperately to appease the SYRIZANs so that the latter will not block the entry of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia into the EU.
Diogenes
They were/are , the union reps were full on ‘Hanson’. The racism in the likes of the CFEMU/ETU etc is/was Labor’s “dirty little secret” .
VP
lol Another Laborite who professes to know me and what I think.
You need to find another occupation from mind-reader, as you fail spectacularly and would struggle to make a living if you don’t.
Boerwar @ #222 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:50 pm
The question is why would the Labor party, purporting to be all about unions/job/wages, accept sponsorship and representation from a union that colludes with management to drive down workers wage rates ?
poroti,
Yep that too hence Labor pandering to the xenophobic vote.
Peg I don’t need to be a mind reader, the proof is in your posts.
Player One @ #220 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:49 pm
So. No answer from Rex. What a surprise.
Any of the other Greens here like to have a go? What do the Greens believe is the “sustainable” population for Australia?
Pegasus
The ‘Tradies’ used to be full on unionists but changes made under Hawke+Keating saw them flood into being subbies etc. Voila the “Grasperationals” and my goodness did they screw over their workers at a rate way higher than the big companies.
Pegasus @ #235 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 7:04 pm
Australia First.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIGQMV7k3s
The entire ANU campus is to be closed tomorrow due to the impact of today’s floods.
This means at over 20,000 students will be affected directly by the flood.
For those with a geographical bent, Sullivan’s Creek flows south in that area, bisecting the ANU, and then debouches into Lake Burley Griffin on the southern boundary of the ANU. That image of a flooded truck was in one of the ANU’s major construction sites. I noted that at least half of one of the ANU’s main playing fields was under water this morning.
Knowing the course of the creek in that area very well, it seems to me quite likely that the ANU built environment has created a serious bottleneck across the Sullivan’s Creek floodplain. Two of the major construction sites directly abut Sullivan’s Creeks. Join the dots.
FWIW, Monday is the day for one of our three appointed sessions at the ANU gym.
I’m reading snippets that George Chritensen is about to jump ship and join Bernardis’ Conservatives. Apparently, there were George sitings in Adelaide today. That’s a long way from Mackay Toto!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-25/save-the-tarkine-rally-in-hobart/9482946
Pegasus
It was when I realised Howard had Labor forked. The shite he espoused was what I heard on work sites all over, from workers and union reps. Shoutback radio crud.
If I were the Macedonians I would change the name of the country to whatever the SYRIZANS want.
Then, as soon as they are safely in the EU and in NATO, change the name of the country to ‘Macedonia!’ and call the capital of Macedonia ‘Alexander’.
Heh heh.
p
“Grasperationals” – haven’t come across that term before….very apt.
Player One @ #237 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 7:06 pm
Sorry P1
Here you go – “Environmental impact is not determined by population numbers alone, but by the way that people live” – https://greens.org.au/policies/population
GG
That would lose Turnbull his majority in the House.
Lamb would be referred to the High Court instanter.
Pegasus @ #208 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 6:42 pm
The Greens don’t like the spotlight being on them, do they?
ahh the Threesome Greens defending and agreeing each other.
Isn’t Pegasus a biatch when cornered!?!