Essential Research was the only national poll of federal voting intention this week, and it’s made all but zero difference to the headline numbers on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate. However, the YouGov Galaxy poll from Queensland has made a very substantial difference, reversing the 52-48 lead recorded to Labor there and knocking five off their seat projection. Conversely, the shallow pool of data from Western Australia since polling resumed for the year has pushed Labor’s lead there well above what seems plausible, added three to their seat tally with the latest update. I’m sure this will moderate over the coming weeks. The other changes this week are a gain for Labor in Victoria and a loss in South Australia. Exciting developments are looming in the world of BludgerTrack in a week or (more likely) two, so do stay tuned.
In other poll news, today’s Fairfax papers have a ReachTEL poll of New England, which finds 43% of its voters still intending to vote for Barnaby Joyce, compared with 65% at the December 2 by-election. However, Tony Windsor was included as a speculative response option, recording 26.1% support, with Labor on 12.1%. However, opinion is divided as to whether he should remain as Nationals leader and Deputy Prime Minister, favoured by 45.3%, or resign either from the front bench (26.7%) or from parliament altogether (20.5%).
DB Cooper @ #2341 Sunday, February 18th, 2018 – 5:57 pm
Thus spoke the voice of the establishment – US or Australian I wonder.
What a load of twaddle. Seems that you appear now to spout the US line, just when the counter ideas are getting traction.
Funny. Probably just co-incidence.
Trouble is Cooper that you let your side down by revealing your ignorance.
Now to call me an anarchist is actually absurd. I am the complete antithesis of anarchist and lead towards excessive government control. i try to reign it in given how irksome the nanny state can be. I am pretty much sure Nicholas, is much the same.
Rex is liberal troll not an anarchist.
As for “blowing up the system” what rot.
As I say i lean towards stability always. I (I hide it amongst friends) lean towards the monarchy and essentially operate on the principle if it ain’t broke do not fix it.
So when I rant about the USA needing major reform you can rest assured that i do so not because I am an anarchist but because I do not think that working within the system will work, because the system is in fact already broken.
The election of Trump is a symptom of a dysfunctional system as was the selection of Palin, the election of BushJr and probably even the election of Reagan. Other symptoms include the incapacity to deal with the gun culture, the regular budgetary impass and the failure to genuinely integrate blacks and Latinos.
If you think people should work within the system fine, but come up with some rational suggestions about how that can be achieved in he US.
If the democrats stopped saying Putin ate my homework and actually gave some thought about what Americans need or want, then they should win comfortably this year and again in 020.
However while they are naval gazing and chucking blame around they will not grasp WHY trump won.
Yes we’ve all noticed that. She has been doing this since the day Clinton won the Democrat nomination.
poroti: “Could Hawke be added ? His ‘personally’ breaking the drought got him off to a flier.”
Hawke had a lot more going for him than dumb luck. He had worked (and drank) hard for many years to lay the groundwork for his success at the highest political level. The breaking of the drought helped him, but the Accord was a much bigger and more lasting achievement that was largely his alone (albeit with a lot of help from Laurie Carmichael).
Earlier today I suggested that Christensen might be intending to abscond from the Nationals and join the Shooters and Fishers Party.
Now I reckon he will stay with the Nationals and campaign to have them renamed the Shooters and Rooters Party.
Cameron @ #2345 Sunday, February 18th, 2018 – 6:09 pm
An observation about DTT’s posts on Trump/Russia. They often mirror talking points of Trump’s tweets, Russian bots (who en masse surge into action following any new development) and Trump surrogates on TV and social media. DTT is very quick off the mark with the same talking points following a new development. Then when in a day or two the dust has settled, those talking points have been cut to pieces. DTT then goes quiet. Rinse and repeat.
An observation about Phoenix, Briefly, Victoria, confessions and a hundred others posts on Trump/Russia. They often mirror talking points of the US securtiy establishments, CIA bots (who en masse surge into action following any new development) and CIA surrogates on TV and social media. They are very quick off the mark with the same talking points following a new development. Then when in a day or two the dust has settled, those talking points have been cut to pieces. they then goes quiet. Rinse and repeat.
sprocket_ @ #1562 Saturday, February 17th, 2018 – 5:08 pm
Inner-city jetset hipster-spiv noir.
Yeah, that will do it.
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lizzie @ #2329 Sunday, February 18th, 2018 – 5:01 pm
Indeed. Always wondered why somebody with such a fetish for a uniform and a hard man act never himself signed up for a tour of duty and put his privileged white arse on the actual firing line.
It’s all getting a bit ad hominem on PB this evening. Come on folks, try sharing the love!
ABC news more than happy to polish the turd that is Malcolm Turnbull complete with 60 minutes extract and bits of Scotty from Insiders.
About 5 seconds of Shorten. I wish he’d concentrate on the rorting, but maybe they edited that part out.
DTT and Nicholas take the view that Hitler was not a bad guy. It was everyone else who didn’t believe what a bad guy he would be and therefore set the conditions for him to take and keep power.
It’s called victim blaming.
BW
AFLW has poached players from other sports and the women are getting some money ( I assume) so good on them for getting some remuneration. But basically the AFL has taken sportswomen that other sports have spent all the time and money developing and cobbled together a code for tv and publicity purposes. These players have mostly not been developed within the code and it shows. While there are plenty of sports people who successfully switch sports, there is usually some sort of skills match.
The Matildas, our women’s international football team, have developed their skills in the code from childhood and now are interationally competitive. The FAA in its earlier forms treated women players like third class citizens but that has changed since a shake up of the code. I remember writing about women’s ‘soccer’ back in the 1980’s and saw the changes made due to increased demand. such redeveloping the changing rooms etc and giving greater recognition of female teams. Girls playing ‘soccer’ was the fastest growing sports sector at the time. This has paid off in today’s strong woman’s football code.
This was bottom up development and growth. The AFL are trying the top-down approach. There is nothing wrong with that except the product will be inferior until it has grass-roots support. Until girls start playing this code with desires to join the AFLW league it will not be of their highest quality.
On a really positive social side, the AFLW league has given LBQTI (??) women a really good sporting opportunity to play professionally and to build and maintain friendships in a recreation setting.
poroti @ #2347 Sunday, February 18th, 2018 – 6:07 pm
So you think the russians aren’t doing anything, or you don’t care ?
meher baba
Yeah, I know, just said for a LOL. Laurie Carmichael , lordy that is someone I had forgotten about.
Some homework for PBers interested in logical fallacies:
The WH still hasn’t passed the sanctions imposed on Russia by Congress. Its failure to respond to the Mueller indictment apart from President man-baby crowing about vindication is yet another action that gives rise to questions about why this administration is soft on Russia.
Damn, it looked ok in preview, but the graphic failed to display once submitted.
Back to the thingy board.
following on from the sock/coathanger talks, dinatale clearly has a plethora of coathangers.
Yep. Trump is panicking.
Perhaps my vision of him being escorted out of the WH to a mental facility is not far off………
poroti: “Laurie Carmichael , lordy that is someone I had forgotten about.”
I’m not sure, but I believe Laurie might still be with us, well into his 90s.
I recall that, like PJK, he is a great lover of Mahler’s music.
guytaur @ #2143 Sunday, February 18th, 2018 – 2:53 pm
No Constitutional change needed, just a Supreme Court that will interpret it rationally.
poroti says:
Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:21 pm
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Trump is not shaping up to be much of a President, but the day the Dems and others decide to stop whinging about the past and start concentrating on preparing themselves to win next time will be a great day in US politics IMO.
Here ! here !
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Goddammit!
It is Hear! Hear!
don
OMG ! What a fluck up on my part. Of course it is “hear” :Red Face Emoji:
After George Christenen’s ‘joke’ about shooting greenies, the loon crew who follow these RWNJ have been let off the leash.
Sarah Hanson Young is posting on twitter some emails she is receiving, which I won’t repost here, but suffice to say they are referencing Christensen and his gun, are vulgar and violent. The Queensland Police May think its a harmless joke, but I suspect we haven’t heard the last of this grubby LNP stunt.
DTT, except that the talking points of the Intel experts DON’T get cut to pieces and said PB posters DON’T go quiet at all. Because they are not sprouting convoluted nonsense and propaganda. I would rather rely on the Intel experts and sound investigative reporting than the lies and disinformation of Trump and Russia.
poroti says:
Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 7:48 pm
don
OMG ! What a fluck up on my part. Of course it is “hear” :Red Face Emoji
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Not a problem, but it did not help my blood pressure to have dtt repeat it verbatim!
poroti says:
Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:21 pm
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Trump is not shaping up to be much of a President, but the day the Dems and others decide to stop whinging about the past and start concentrating on preparing themselves to win next time will be a great day in US politics IMO.
It will be a great day when the thieves and the hackers cease to be granted a waiver for their crimes by onlookers, apologists and other assorted grovellers, clients and dupes.
Hillary Clinton was an extremely weak candidate whose weakness enabled a known sexual predator and serial liar to win a presidential election = Hitler was not a bad guy ??
Thank you for this attractive opportunity to exchange non sequiturs with you. I will decline, however, because the exercise would be as constructive as Hillary Clinton’s 2016 candidacy.
sprocket:
OMG that email SHY has tweeted is thoroughly beyond the pale and totally out of order.
Who are these people, and what is wrong with them?
If the AFP need to escalate the Christensen incitement to violence, they can move it up to their boss, Peter Dutton.
No-one whinges about the past more than the Bernie Bro’s.
Suppose some idiot (not GC) shoots one of the Greens. Where does that leave things?
DB Cooper
They are a mere whisper compared to the “It was Hilary’s turn” crew.
Cameron
I don’t bother to read dtt these days. But the continued focus seems to be only about Russian interference, as if that is all she wrote. It is only one small component of this imbroglio. There are several parts, and they are all serious and don’t just involve Trump and Russia per say. There are other players.
You only have to look at Trump’s cabinet, to realise that he together with the people in place are the puppets. The investigation is looking at the puppeteers.
Talk about riffing off your father being Potus, and according to the article this sales pitch comes with a Secret Service detail financed by taxpayers. They truly are having a lend.
And for those who carry on about Clinton. This is bigger than whether Clinton won or not. In fact, her part in this is just the by line. Bill Clinton on the other hand, well that is another story………….
The Rudd Cult gives them a run for their money. But many of them are one and the same.
As someone who was a clear, unashamed but fully aware Clinton supporter (not great candidate but the person I felt would be the best at DOING the job), I resent the representation of her support as purely being about “her turn”.
Onto matters that will actually do more than give people the chance to hop onto high-horses… Newspoll. Yes? No?
I just saw this from good ole Tea Pain. It accords with my view of Trump having a complete meltdown…………..
Tea Pain
Tea Pain
@TeaPainUSA
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Trump v Trump – Less than nine hours apart, Trump claims no American participated with Russia in illegal activity, then claims Hillary & the Dems participated with Russia in illegal activity.
Trump is exhibiting clear symptoms of neurotic psychosis stemming from extreme guilt.
Embedded
The people who keep claiming that Hillary was robbed (by Russia, by the FBI, by Bernie Sanders, by the media, by anything other than her own deficient policy platform and limited communication skills) are not exactly the best exemplars of living in the present.
Bernie Sanders is still making a constructive contribution to American politics. He isn’t sulking about the past, as Hillary Clinton and some of her supporters are inordinately fond of doing.
‘And for those who carry on about Clinton. This is bigger than whether Clinton won or not. In fact, her part in this is just the by line. Bill Clinton on the other hand, well that is another story………….’
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar,
You can’t tell me that is just a coincidence.
Nicholas,
Give one example of Hillary sulking.
There is nothing she could do that would please you. If she was out making regular comments on events, you would be saying she should just go away!
Sean Lahey out of the blocks!
So how will Newspoll tonight play….A 52-48 result will be seen as a win to Joyce. A 54-46 will be seen as evidence he has to go. Anything more will be seen as Turnbull in trouble.
A move to the government will be seen as the public not caring and a give a green light to more dodginess.
The 21st-century Russian sleeper agent is a troll with an American accent
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/the-21st-century-russian-sleeper-agent-is-a-troll-with-an-american-accent/2018/02/17/d024ead2-1404-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html?utm_term=.43391fedc59b
Nicholas, 6:34pm:
Nicholas, 8:18pm:
boomy1
My reference to Bill Clinton had nothing to do with the election etc, but more to do with his private conduct.
Abbott’s daughter accepts a “scholarship” worth $60,000 from a Liberal donor, which stood to gain bigly from the Coalition’s education policies. No worries.
The Deputy PM accepts free accomodation worth $12,000 from a big Coalition donor who, maybe apart from the pests, was the biggest beneficiary from a Government decision to move the pesticide authority to Armidale. No worries.
Sam Dastyari persuades a Labor donor to pay his $1,600 legal bills. Huge uproar from the Government and media, hounded out of Parliament.
Anyone spot the inconsistency?
Meanwhile 60 minutes will be aired shortly. And Malcolm and Lucy are going to feature to discuss their wonderful marriage.
Steve777
Nothing to see move along……..
Vic:
Apparently the Turnbulls are expecting a grandchild around the same time as Barnaby’s baby.
Fess
Oh how wonderment!!