The latest ReachTEL poll for Sky News, conducted last night from a sample of 2399, has Labor with a two-party lead of 53-47, unchanged from the last poll on September 28. So far the only primary vote numbers we have are inclusive of a 9% undecided rating: at first blush, they suggest the Coalition on around 37.5%, Labor on 38.5% and the Greens on One Nation on 10% apiece, although forced responses of the undecided would probably bring the major parties back a little. Those figures should be forthcoming soon-ish.
The poll also finds Malcolm Turnbull leading Bill Shorten 51-49 as preferred prime minister, down from 52-48. Malcolm Turnbull’s performance is rated good or very good by 25%, poor or very poor by 40%; for Bill Shorten, the corresponding numbers are 28% and 38.5%.
Re Baaarnnn. I wonder if all the recent “alleged” dirt and rumours will come out.
I dont support changing the constitution.
GetUp: BREAKING: High Court rules @Barnaby_Joyce ineligible to serve in Australian Parliament pic.twitter.com/55cSyA0ZOT
Has Barnaby renounced his NZ citizenship yet?
Will the new NZ Labour Government accept his renounciation, if tendered, before 2 December?
So little time …
Jennet must have gone to kinder garden with or something like it to give the ever portentous Dr Gary Rumble 2 minutes in his coverage.
Newspoll: 56:44
Ides of March
Will Ron Taber run again? (Another indy in new England)
Rod Taber is most unlikely to run again. He lost a lot of money when he attempted to get elected last time, he did not get enough votes to gain financial recompense.
Gutless press conference by Turnbull.
One question.
Completely gutless BiGD
Complete lack of leadership.
Loses majority in parliament.
Loses coalition leader and deputy leader
Loses deputy pm as same time.
past legislation placed in question
questions over stability until bi-election
share market dropping
dollar falling
and jetting off overseas today, WTF, I mean WTAF
and no indication of who is acting pm whilst he is away
Gecko
Newspoll: 56:44
Please don’t do that.
Or at least use smilies, lots of them.
Mr Turnbull will babysit the agriculture portfolio until the result of the New England byelection is known.
He does not say who will be acting prime minister when he goes overseas tomorrow.
He took only one question.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/the-pulse-live/barnaby-joyce-malcolm-roberts-and-other-mps-receive-citizenship-verdict-from-high-court-20171027-gz9efa.html
Player One @ #947 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 3:51 pm
briefly, I’m not sure if you are asking around, or just brow beating people and taking their silence as agreement.
don @ #957 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 3:57 pm
55-45!
IoM
Common sense says if you ask the disinterested Australian voter to say if they think people standing for federal parliament should be exclusively Australian citizens they are going to say ‘yes’ in droves.
🙂 🙂 🙂
Malcy delays trip
Has Barnaby renounced his NZ citizenship yet?
yar a few weeks ago fulvio, 20 years after he entered parliament
Question
briefly, I’m not sure if you are asking around, or just brow beating people and taking their silence as agreement.
I don’t browbeat fellow voters. But I do listen to them.
Malcy delays trip
maybe realises there may be a minor tiny little crisis just happened, or too scared to leave bishy as acting pm
Maybe he should send Barnaby as his special envoy instead …
Gecko:
Thanks for that!
Question
55-45!
(for Newspoll)
We can but hope!
I am all for a shootout between One Nation and the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers
Mr Money
Only long enough to sort Canavan’s appointment and the appointment of the cockroach as acting PM.
The Beersheba gig is the 31st so he got time.
Ides of March @ <a href='https://blog
MrMoney @ #964 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 4:00 pm
Had no choice.
any legislation, directions, etc ticked off by barny as a minister is subject to a double hit
he was not a minister as the high court found
and he did not take reasonable steps care in determining whether he held dual citizenship
reasonableness is the main factor in any decision making process
briefly @ #966 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 4:02 pm
Are there any polls that back up your anecdotes?
Voice Endeavour @ #845 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 1:36 pm
And comes with potentially very serious penalties, including custodial, as everybody on social security is endlessly reminded in no uncertain terms.
Just imagine the foaming-at-the-mouth apoplexy and lust for the harshest of punishments that would flood from the government and its supporters if that had been a ‘dole bludger’ committing a comparable level of fraud over a 20 year period.
Joyce should be required to pay back every penny he illegally scammed from the sacred taxpayer, with interest, forfeit his very generous pension, and serve substantial jail time.
and littlejohn shellbell
workmanalice: GUYS! It’s Friday pun time! Whaddaya reckon?
Barnaby Cash-es Out!
Anna Henderson
(@annajhenderson)
Mr Windsor says he is not going to put his wife through another election campaign
October 27, 2017
Question…. for example, when the news broke earlier that Joyce had been dumped I was in a factory nearby, buying something. I was being assisted by a 30-something y.o. production hand. Her mother also works in the same place and is English. I told the younger woman that Joyce had been booted out of the Parliament as I read it from the phone. She was not visibly moved but just said “I don’t see what the fuss is, really. It seems ridiculous to me.” So there you are….dual citizen, born here, worker, a-political….thinks it’s rubbish, which it is.
briefly @ #979 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 4:08 pm
Well, that’s one. Only 12 million left to go. Good luck with that.
Just Me:
Joyce should be required to pay back every penny he illegally scammed from the sacred taxpayer, with interest, forfeit his very generous pension, and serve substantial jail time.
Dream on!
barny keeping all monies from when he knew or was aware he was dual citizen is not right.
this is one debt that should not be waived.
you dont keep collecting money when you have doubts over whether you are entitled to it as barny did.
fine if it is unclear and not aware like waters and ludlam who resigned when the doubt was there.
give him the same treatment and compassion that centrelink does.
Don
Thank you for the correction.
Tony Windsor sounds like he is thinking about the senate in future.
Question
briefly @ #966 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 4:02 pm
Question
briefly, I’m not sure if you are asking around, or just brow beating people and taking their silence as agreement.
I don’t browbeat fellow voters. But I do listen to them.
Are there any polls that back up your anecdotes?
Dunno.
briefly @ #978 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 3:08 pm
A fine opinion, but nothing short of a successful referendum is going to change the Constitution and overturn (unanimously) settled legal precedent. Anecdotes won’t cut it.
Which of Canavan’s stories ended up before the High Court?
His first argument was that his mum filled in his form without his knowledge when he was an adult. Presumably, this act involved forging the signature of another adult, which I would imagine amounts to fraud of some sort.
Then the argument was he was ALWAYS eligible for Italian citizenship just because his mother was.
Either way, he was clearly eligible under citizenship by descent in the same way the others were. So … what am I missing?
I would have put money on them all going (except Xenophon, whose situation was far too complicated to have occurred to most reasonable people). I don’t understand how Canavan’s ignorance of the descent rules puts him in the clear while ruling others out.
Tony_Burke: We have a hung parliament, a minority government because the Deputy PM broke the law.
#auspol
Bolt_RSS: TURNBULL FLEES PRESS CONFERENCE #auspol ift.tt/2za91AN
https://twitter.com/bolt_rss/status/923774046524895232
Canavan survived because the HC was not convinced he was Italian
Breifly I’m sure we can find plenty of anecdotes different to yours.
I told my boss who is a Kiwi dual citizen and conservative voter about the decision and he said “serves them right”.
My colleague who is a Solomon Islander dual citizen and totally nonpolitical was also happy with the decision.
They might of course just be keeping me happy.
Anecdotes are not the way we change our constitution
A R
A fine opinion, but nothing short of a successful referendum is going to change the Constitution and overturn (unanimously) settled legal precedent. Anecdotes won’t cut it.
Yeah…it’s hard to change…too hard, perhaps. We will find it impossible to abolish the monarchy, to better provide for the rights of first peoples and to establish equal opportunity for all electors in relation to the Parliament….Imperialism is embedded.
briefly, I would agree with changes to make renouncing foreign citizenship easier, but there are many more important issues. Like the person in your anecdote “I don’t see what the fuss is, really”.
I would not vote to change the constitution to allow dual citizenship parliamentarians.
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/robert-gottliebsen/sydney-apartment-prices-what-comes-after-the-collapse/news-story/e5fac54f1e43c4cb0be60df91fdad01b
How stupid is Hansen?
Opens up questioning how the replacement would be decided.
I think it was zoomster who suggested that once elected there could be a period to renounce dual nationality/leave ofice of profits/ leave the army etc, before taking your seat. I like that approach.
don @ #981 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 2:40 pm
Oh, I know it is not going to happen. But it should, and it should be said.
Boris @ #982 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 2:41 pm
Yep. Gets the same that he and his pack dish out to others. Nothing more, nothing less.
Only way these mongrels learn is to get a serious taste of their own medicine.
briefly.
Yep. The Republic and Aboriginal “Voice” are way ahead in my priorities for changes to the constitution.