As reported by The Guardian, the Coalition has picked up a point on Essential Research’s fortnight rolling average for the second week in a row, reducing Labor’s lead to 52-48. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up one to 36%, Labor is down one to 36%, One Nation is up a point to 11% and the Greens are steady on 10% (UPDATE: No, actually it’s the Coalition steady on 38% and One Nation up one to 8% – the rest is okay). Further:
• On the question of who would be best to lead the Liberal Party, Malcolm Turnbull recorded 25%, up five since March; Julie Bishop 20%, down three; Tony Abbott 10%, unchanged; and 13% chose an unspecified “someone else” option. For Labor, Bill Shorten was on 20%, down one; Tanya Plibersek 13%, unchanged; Anthony Albanese 13%, up two; with someone else on 13%.
• Fifty-two per cent were of the view that economic inequality was worsening, with 26% saying it was stable and only 12% concurring with Scott Morrison’s suggestion that it was diminishing. No doubt relatedly, 82% supported forcing multinational companies to pay a minimum tax rate on their Australian earnings; 61% favoured a higher top-tier income tax rate; 71% a “Buffett rule” to force the wealthy to pay a minimum 30% tax rate; and 86% measures to inhibit the wealthy from minimising tax payments by sending funds offshore.
• Fifty-eight per cent expressed support for four-year terms, with only 24% opposed.
Another poll worth noting is a rare effort on voting intention in the Australian Capital Territory, conducted by ReachTEL for Anglicare and the Canberra Gambling Reform Alliance, which records Labor on 36.4% (down 2.0% since the 2016 election), the Liberals on 38.8% (up 2.1%) and the Greens on 13.3% (up 3.0%).
mikehilliard.. let’s say you are all powerful and you can decide which Shorten runs at the next election: A: articulate smart Shorten with a suite of great policies but a tendency to allow his eyeballs to bulge hilariously at inconvenient moments or B: the same as A less the eyeball factor.
Yes JimmyDolye, this post-Brexit period is a damned good example. The place is falling apart and the Europeans are in the box seat.
zoomster
Sorry, we’re seriously going to blame the women for the misdeeds of their men?
Salome, Delilah, Lady Macbeth…..
😉
alias
You brought up the eyeballs. Why should I decide what’s better for our country?
MH
We could have a chronic waffler and hand waver or a tuber instead.
Excellent effort by Shorten. Policy rich responses skittled Sales.
mikehilliard @ #1293 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:42 pm
It shouldn’t but it does with many people.
Classic case was Richard Nixon whose 5 o’clock shadow made him look like a stereotypical crook to many people.
CTar1
Who’s hand waver?
Anyhoo I’ll go for the eyeballs.
Yes Shorten was very strong. Exuded confidence.
So we vote ‘Yes’ to a Republic. Everything continues as before while we work out the details. Unless there’s an undue delay, more than about, say, 3 years, before a referendum is held, I don’t see the problem. In the interim, the Queen (her heirs / successors) remains Head of State, the Governor General and State Governors remain in place and so forth. There’ll be transitional issues. Problems might arise. But surely nothing that can’t be dealt with given good will and common sense.
Bill did good.
While we’re on the topic of mannerisms/individual communication styles, one thing that has always driven me up the wall is the ‘ah’ pause Tony Abbott can’t seem to go two phrases without inserting.
MH – ‘hand waver and waffler’ = Turnbull
No it isn’t. I shouldn’t have to point out that Australia won’t have to negotiate with any other nation or group of nations in order to determine what model of republic it becomes.
The only thing Brexit as an example is good for in relation to Australia becoming a republic is in demonstrating what a useless hypocrite Tony Abbott is.
If there is a well-defined process by which a series of referendums, led by a simple Yes/No question on becoming a republic, then there will be no problem. Incidentally, that’s the exact process the ALP is advocating for.
CTar1
OK, I know waffles but missed his hand waving. doG forbid the tuber gets a go. Mind you that would be a 100% end to his government.
CTar1 @ #1299 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:48 pm
I took it to be a vicious attack on the sorority. 😉
I just don’t see the point of the yes/no vote. Inevitably, many people are going to approach such a vote with this attitude: “It really depends what type of Republic we’re talking about. Okay, so there would be another vote later on the model .. but how do I know that my ‘yes’ vote won’t set in train a process with which I will ultimately disagree, such as having an elected head of state? So on that basis, I’ll vote no to the general question.”
Isn’t it far better to have a national debate about the best model, then put another model to a referendum? Just because one model got voted down previously doesn’t mean this one will necessarily meet with the same fate.
don @ #1303 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:50 pm
… Julia Gillard… 😛
I don’t see much of a parallel between the Republic and Brexit. For a start, the Republic won’t change the way we run the country. It won’t affect trade, immigration or citizenship. The change will be in the symbolism, how we represent ourselves. We don’t have to negotiate with any other party, just among ourselves. There will be no firm deadlines., although as per my previous post, we wouldn’t want to take to long.
Speaking of Brexit, it turns out that the Brits got to run 1.2 trlliion in EU asset funds… and the french and the germans have indicated that they welcome the opportunity to onshore the funds.
Mr Newbie @ #1314 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:58 pm
Neither can Turnbull at times, and I have seen Shorten lapse into it.
There are a surprising number of politicians who have not conquered this.
I’m not suggesting strong parallels in factual circumstances between Brexit and a post-“yes”, pre-model Australia.. rather a parallel on the conceptual level ie falling between two stools.
MOH just polled (? reachtel) with a focus on SSM
Sex
Age bracket
Primary vote
First pref
Turnbull leadership rating Strong – – Very Poor
SSM Y or N or U
Which party has done more to support (the Y response presumably)
Conscience vote or Party
Nothing on a plebiscite
Sure, if you want to delay a republic by another two decades.
Your suggestion is exactly what defeated the last referendum. People who didn’t want a Parliament-appointed President, but who did want a republic, voted no.
Furthermore, just how exactly will the “best model” be decided? A referendum? An unelected body?
Why not just streamline the process and determine whether Australia even wants to be a republic in the first place, THEN vote on the model?
Listened to Landline the other day…
…driverless tractors to be the norm within a decade…
Yes/no referendum on the republic is a smart way to chop the deniers off at the knees.
citizen @ #1243 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 5:54 pm
OMG. That was just beautiful. Brutal doesn’t do it justice. PVO swatted him like a bug. Contemptuous Extremis.
lizzie @ #1256 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 6:19 pm
No Laura there wasn’t a more useless bunch. Nice of you to finally notice. And it is very much indicative of Trumble.
bemused
don @ #1303 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:50 pm
zoomster
Sorry, we’re seriously going to blame the women for the misdeeds of their men?
Salome, Delilah, Lady Macbeth…..
bemused:
… Julia Gillard…
Noooo, I am not following that particular rabbit down the hole…..
Tingle is wrong. This mob is useful. Very useful. To water thieves. To wage thieves. To climate thieves. To VET thieves. To aged care thieves. To banking thieves… etc, etc, etc…
Boerwar
Listened to Landline the other day…
…driverless tractors to be the norm within a decade…
I thought we were very close to that already.
Boerwar – on the other hand, if you’re poor and convicted of theft over a chocolate bar, this mob aren’t so useful.
I guess the moral of this story is that if you’re going to commit theft, you better have a lot of cash you can donate to the LNP.
Don
Yep. The existing in-tractor technology is being adapted and trialled.
I imagine that risk management needs to be integrated… like how does the tractor know that the seeds are actually going in right.
etc etc etc
JD
I live for the day when it is routine for bosses who steal from their workers go to jail.
Abetz operating from a position of ignorance
There could be consequences
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmyRemeikis/status/892936316576387072/photo/1
Sh
Nothing new in Abetz operating from a position of ignorance.
He’s been at it for years.
shellbell @ #1337 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 8:41 pm
What are the possible consequences?
Barney in Go Dau said:
[Sir Pajama Pudding of Lake Disappointment
… The Rapture. If you want to find out how loopy Trump’s religious base are, visit these sites:]
No, thanks
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Understood! But here’s the really disturbing bit: the forum section of the Rapture Ready website has 69, 265 threads and 1,095,346 posts……
“Abetz operating from a position of ignorance
There could be consequences”
I didn’t think that report had been released to anyone but the Govt as yet??
Boerwar @ #1333 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 8:41 pm
Then longevity is yours
So a possible timetable for the Republic:
– May 2019: Labor wins Government
– Late 2019: Republican plebiscite. Passes.
– 2020 – 2021: not sure what comes next. A Republican Convention is selected (how?), meets a few times, chooses a model, fleshes out details of changes to the Constitution, determines question
– By this time, the date of the next Federal election is looming. Referendum might need to wait until after that unless we can get in in late 2021. To go ahead Opposition must be on board. Temptation for Monarchist holdouts and simple wreckers in the Opposition and its allies will be enormous.
– Early 2022: Federal election.
– mid to late 2022 Republic Referendum
– 1/1/2024: likely earliest possible date for Republic.
– later: sort out flag and date for Australia Day. Do not mix up these issues with the Republic.
Reposting a (slightly cryptic) link to Two People – a campaign set up by the legal fraternity advocating the necessary changes to the Marriage Act to remove discrimination and give equality before the law.
The Campaign Committee members are:
Gillian Triggs, President of the Australian Human Rights Commission, 2012-2017
George Williams AO, Dean, UNSW Faculty of Law
Michael Bradley, Managing Partner, Marque Lawyers
Michelle Painter, Senior Counsel, NSW Bar
https://www.twopeople.org.au
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj6VMLAJqxs
It’s good to have dreams, no matter how unrealistic.
Steve777 @ #1340 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 9:14 pm
My fervent hope is that Australia Day as we know it gets relegated to the rubbish bin of history and Republic Day becomes our national day.
ItzaDream
“My fervent hope is that ………… Republic Day becomes our national day”
Preserve us…… assure me that this is satire,!!!
Evening all.
I see that Malcolm has called a partyroom meeting for Monday! Thinking I should’ve got my work colleague onto getting my selfie with him autographed earlier cause come Monday night he could no longer be leader! 😮
don @ #1303 Thursday, August 3rd, 2017 – 7:50 pm
Boy george!
Pinkie promise?
JD:
😆
The Lib meeting on Monday will have Turnbull Channeling Elvis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ete6v99LQYk
Critical to Monday’s meeting will be the legal advice they are seeking as to whether they can conduct a postal plebiscite without legislation. What would happen if they got the defectors on side with that – and proceeded? Would large portions of the electorate boycott that vote – and where would that leave things?