The second fortnightly federal voting intention poll by YouGov for Fifty Acres records a three point increase in the Coalition primary vote, now at 36%, with Labor down one to 33%, the Greens steady on 12% and One Nation steady on 7%. The combined vote for all other parties is down two to 12%, making it slightly less unusual than that score than Newspoll and Essential Research, who respectively have it at 8% and 10%. However, what’s very unusual is a respondent-allocated two-party preferred result that gives the Coalition a lead of 52-48, the reverse of what the result would be if 2016 preference flows were used, as per the other pollsters. I don’t quite have the confidence to lead a post with “52-48 to Coalition” based such an unorthodox reading, so I’ll be using primary votes for my YouGov headlines for the time being.
The poll also found 60% support for same-sex marriage, with 28% opposed; health and hospitals were rated the most important election issue by 45%, followed by pensions on 33% and job security and unemployment on 31%; 56% supportive of a tax on companies that used robots to fund support for those who lost jobs as a result; and 54% expressing concern at indigenous languages falling into disuse, but only 33% believing the government should do anything about it. The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Tuesday, with a sample of a little over 1000.
UPDATE: The Australia Institute has published results of a poll conducted in South Australia by ReachTEL, which shows (after allocating the forced response question from the 7.1% undecided) federal voting intention in the state at 34.3% for the Liberals (down 0.8% on last year’s election), 32.1% for Labor (up 0.6%), 14.9% for the Nick Xenophon Team (down 6.4%), 6.6% for the Greens (up 0.4%), 4.6% for One Nation (didn’t field lower house candidates) and 3.9% for Australian Conservatives (unchanged on the Family First vote). There’s also a separate question on Senate voting intention, and while I have my doubts about such an exercise, it has the Liberals on 30.1% (down 2.5%), Labor on 26.1% (down 1.2%), the Nick Xenophon Team on 21.7% (unchanged), the Greens on 8.2% (up 2.3%), One Nation on 4.8% (up 1.8%) and Australian Conservatives on 5.2% (up 2.3% on the Family First vote, for the most encouraging poll result the party has yet received).
The poll also records strong support for the ABC, with 40.4% wanting its funding increased, 33.4% kept as is and only 17.5% reduced; 64.8% opposed to the government cutting funding to the ABC to get support on relaxed media ownership laws from One Nation, with 16.5% supportive; and 56.3% supportive of a strong online presence for the ABC “even if it effects the commercial viability of commercial media outlets”, with 16.4% opposed (the anti-ABC numbers across the three questions being notably similar). The automated phone poll was conducted from 1589 respondents on June 29.
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No, I am not dyslexic.
The statement in question was this:
“Since then the coalition have been able to use the media to reframe the AGW argument into one about electricity supply. The media from what I’ve observed has happily followed them down that road, and here we are today arguing about coal being a part of our future instead of debating meaningful, realistic ways we can transition our economy away from non-renewable energy sources.”
Which clearly shows an inability to comprehend that coal usage is related to the means currently used to generate electricity which we need to transition from. I have bolded the key section.
This sort of statement has been made repeatedly.
Apart from generating electricity, what is coal used for? Steaming coal, very little if any. Some coking coal for steel production. That is it.
So electricity generation is extremely important, it is not some sort of a distraction.
I am sorry if you and Zoomster also don’t understand that.”
I have no dog in this fight. Bemused, you seem to have misread a perfectly valid statement, even as you highlight it. There is no indication that Confessions believes that the reframing is honest. In fact, her pointing this out implies she thinks it is dishonest.
zoomster @ #944 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 8:58 pm
Partly, and arguing that only fossil fuels (mainly coal) can deliver that.
There is an inextricable link.
And even here on PB we have a Spam Bot promoting burning gas.
PS, the petty childish bickering by some posters is tiresome.
jack a randa @ #945 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm
Absolutely! Vital around that period of time and you would have thought it might be disclosed then. But no. Strangely not.
It might turn out to be OK, but it is odd.
Is there some suggestion that the Govt will claim back payments to Ludlham. That’s ridiculous. Even if that was allowed (I doubt it) he would have a restitutionary claim, what’s called a quantum meruit, to compensate him for services he provided (albeit illegally) which would presumably match the deduction. The only claim against him woudl surely be for damages (e.g. the cost of electing a new senator, etc etc) and I doubt that woudl be an option.
He has to simply because his party has chosen to sell out on making arguments about sensible and rational approaches to addressing AGW by conflating it with electricity supply. This is what we get as a result.
It’s sad and craven and total bullshit that our govt is reduced to this position. But here they are, and it’s all thanks to Turnbull.
zoomster @ #948 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:01 pm
I don’t think I did.
“Partly, and arguing that only fossil fuels (mainly coal) can deliver that.”
Where does Confessions show that this is HER position? She is describing it as the COALitions position. Why else would she contrast this with her obviously preferred situation in part of what you quoted,
“…and here we are today arguing about coal being a part of our future instead of debating meaningful, realistic ways we can transition our economy away from non-renewable energy sources.”?
Bemused has loads of respect for women. Some of his favourite politicians are women. Joan Child, Terri Butler and Jennifer Yang would be all in favour of him addressing women as “sweetie” and calling Julia Gillard “the ‘loyal’ deputy with the stiletto”. It’s only a few misandric numpties on PB who fail to realise this.
It’s Time
There was a link earlier today to an article which pointed out the ways women are intimidated on line. That kind of behaviour shouldn’t be accepted by any one here.
…apologies, It’s Time. I’m getting too snarky.
william bowe @ #959 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:17 pm
Thank you for your support William, I am unaccustomed to it but look forward to this becoming a trend.
I’ll come back later…
it’s time @ #958 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:16 pm
Oh dear… my dilemma is that if I keep answering such things I get attacked for prolonging this.
On Tones and ‘renuncation’ of UK nationality I think some research was done on ‘how’ about 2 years ago and there is no form to ‘fill out’.
A simple example of ‘how’ was given as visiting the HC or Consulate handing in your current UK passport and telling them you renounce your UK citizenship.
Bemused,
Um, I don’t think Mr Bowe’s comment to you was a simple statement of support. 🙂
ctar1 @ #965 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:24 pm
I asked a question yesterday WTTE “Why can’t there be a section of the nomination form where a candidate renounces all citizenships, whether known or unknown, except Australian.”
Surely that could be given effect by a simple piece of legislation?
Now I’m bemused again. Was Bemused’s “thank you” to William an ironic reply, or did he, as he often does, miss Will’s irony? I shall lie awake all night wondering….
No Zoomster, the apology should be for implying that I was intimidating a woman or that it even has any relevence to what I have written. Too snarky implies that your comment was justified but should not have been delivered it in that manner.
jack a randa @ #968 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:29 pm
Hehehe…
confessions @ #956 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13 pm
They are not alone in this. There are some here who try to reduce what is rapidly becoming an existential crisis to be purely a matter of economics.
How these people will be able to live with themselves when their children inevitably suffer the consequences of their greed and stupidity is simply beyond me.
william bowe @ #959 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:17 pm
Guilty as charged, m’lord!
Im a bit of a current affairs tragic, but find myself deliberately avoiding coverage on tv and radio.
If I happen to unintentionally catch Turnbull or any other LNP advocate, I get angry. I suspect I am not alone.
The meme that the public has stopped listening to Turnbull and the LNP seems apt.
Oh dear, It’s Time. That’s what I meant by ‘too snarky’ – that I was jumping at shadows and had misinterpreted one comment of yours adversely when the rest made your position clear (especially poor of me given my insistence that comments be read in context).
I did not mean to imply in any way that you were intimidating women. I apologise unreservedly.
“Was Bemused’s “thank you” to William an ironic reply, or did he, as he often does, miss Will’s irony? I shall lie awake all night wondering….”
If this keeps up, we’ll be able to mine it and smelt it and turn it into something useful.
William:
Why do you tolerate bemused’s constant and unprovoked attacks on other commenters, esp his misogynistic attacks on women commenters? I do my best to ignore him, yet I’m frequently abused by him for no reason.
…to clarify further: I had not looked at the names above some of the comments. I read yours as the FIRST you had made, for that reason (I know, but that’s what happened). Again, because I was getting too snarky.
rossmore @ #973 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:32 pm
I mostly laugh at them.
Rossmore – Turnbull has committed the worst sin a politician can commit. He’s shown himself to be a total hypocrite. Voters don’t think he believes what he’s saying (though I’ve got my doubts about that). It’s that lack of authenticity than is killing him and why voters don’t want to listen.
Apology accepted, man to man. 😉
It has occurred to me that they are invariably all old enough that they won’t have to worry about what happens in the immediate future beyond their deaths. It’s 30+ years into the future that people are going to have to make the hard decisions.
rossmore @ #973 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:32 pm
Agreed. I realized Howard was done when everyone I knew (myself included) would routinely turn off the radio rather than listen to him drone on.
Turnbull has recently reached this nadir.
confessions @ #981 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:38 pm
But don’t at least some of them have children?
WB
Thanks for reintroducing the word ‘numpties’. It seems to have disappeared in the last few months.
Language evolves and now working the word ‘Hilarious’ in a response is popular.
Malcolm is doing the job he is most comfortable with – mouth for hire. He doesn’t have to believe what he says, just persuade people to believe i what he says and he gets a payoff for it. That’s why the Lib rump allowed him to defeat Abbott. And they negotiated a conveniently small fee for his services – he gets to sit in the big chair but hogtied so he can’t actually do anything they don’t like.
ctar1 @ #985 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:41 pm
There is much unintended humour on PB.
And some occasional very good intended humour.
“It has occurred to me that they are invariably all old enough that they won’t have to worry about what happens in the immediate future beyond their deaths. It’s 30+ years into the future that people are going to have to make the hard decisions.”
Do they suffer the delusion that they can somehow shelter their children and grandchildren from the consequences of their actions and inactions? Perhaps they are just sociopaths.
Posting using a mobile phone sucks in just so many ways it’s impossible to list them!
it’s time @ #987 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:49 pm
The most important thing in the world to me is my grandchildren. I think this is a normal human response.
I see Be..used is continuing his lonely, but gallant nightly campaign to win friends and influence people.
Unfortunate that his rather creepy obsession with Confessions and inability to comprehend her clearly expressed comments, coupled with his obviously sexist vocabulary make his quest a futile one.
Seriously, this is happening so often, that this blog would be better off without him.
“Seriously, this is happening so often, that this blog would be better off without him.”
Everyone is entitled to use their scrollwheel without penalty.
“How these people will be able to live with themselves when their children inevitably suffer the consequences of their greed and stupidity is simply beyond me.”
Yes, it’s unbelievable. These people must have no conscience.
adrian @ #990 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:53 pm
I respond to Confessions comments probably less than those of any other poster.
But every time I do, she, or one of the sorority has conniptions and starts a shit fight.
My comments are on issues, not personalities.
Say that when you’re the repeated target of this asshole’s abuse and focus and I’ll hat tip you.
“Everyone is entitled to use their scrollwheel without penalty.”
And everyone should be entitled to comment here without the kind of harrassment (usually directed at female commentators) in which regularly indulges.
I’ve asked William a question about Bemused’s repeated abuse of other commenters. Hopefully he will respond.
*blinks*
it’s time @ #991 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:59 pm
That is just Confessions unceasing campaign to have me banned.
I have not abused her as she alleges, but have certainly copped much abuse from her.
She also makes frequent references to having me on STFU, contrary to one of William’s rules, encourages others to do the same, and generally seeks to have me ostracised.
As she says I am on her STFU list, I do not respond directly to her but comment on an occasional post of hers to others when I think there is an issue that should be addressed. I make no apologies for doing so.
I do not get upset if someone comments on any issue in a comment I make. To do so is childish.
confessions @ #994 Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:03 pm
Example of such abuse please?
Everyone is entitled to use their scrollwheel without penalty.
No. The behaviour you scroll past, is the behaviour you acccept.