The Guardian reports the Essential Research fortnight rolling average has come in at 52-48 to Labor for a third week in a row, with the Coalition (39%), Labor (36%) and the Greens (10%) each managing to gain a point on the primary vote, as One Nation’s recent run of good polling form comes to an end with a two point drop to 7%. The poll also finds 78% of respondents on board for the no-brainer of real-time disclosure of political donations, 79% for politicians having to disclose meetings with companies, donors or unions, 64% for a ban on foreign donations and 61% for a $5000 cap on donations, but only 30% for a ban on donations and more public funding in its stead. Also featured are Essential’s occasional suite of questions on the personal attributes of the two leaders, on which I’ll wait on their full release later today before reaching any conclusions.
The other news in polldom this week is Newspoll’s quarterly breakdowns by state, age, gender and metro/non-metro, which are helpfully laid out in very great detail here. Statewise, the picture is overwhelmingly one of uniformity, with Labor leading 53-47 through the April-June quarter everywhere except South Australia, where it was 56-44. In swing terms, this suggests less change in New South Wales and Victoria compared with the 2016 result than the smaller states. When these numbers are plugged into the next BludgerTrack update, they will tend to boost Labor in New South Wales, where the swing presently recorded is an anomalously modest 0.7%, without making much difference elsewhere. Also of note is a two-point drop for One Nation in Western Australia in the wake of the state election, compared with stable results elsewhere.
Fees, it came up on ABC News.
Go Lee! : )
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/28/news-corp-is-a-disgrace-and-should-not-get-hands-on-ten-former-manager-says
Apologies Fess, my tablet fiddled your name.
Did anyone notice my question about Wollongong last night?
‘fess
‘Breaking’ banner on the ABC News channel.
cc – I replied to your ‘jb’ query (Jervis Bay) and a little comment that descent rail that far was worth investigating.
Try ‘decent’ …
Brandis stacks the Administrative Affairs Tribunal: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/george-brandis-clears-out-infuriating-tribunal-20170628-gx071l.html
Probyn spent as much time on RGR as ATA. Made Turnbull the victim (not a player), and Shorten getting undeserved reward.
I don’t think we can call the Greens a major party. Otherwise we have to call PHON one too given their voters are about at same level.
That said the media is beating up the Green division as much as they can to try and make out the LNP is not as bad as it is.
This might just be the end of the Greens. Time will tell. Its certainly not a good look for them.
zoomster @ #646 Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm
Dan Gulberry quoted a comment yesterday and it was a cracker. I should have bookmarked it.
russellmahoney: “You’re to behave or well send you a mildly worded letter and then excuse you from tedious meetings.”
Thanks guys. Sorry, just got in from work.
I repeat: this seems a somewhat extreme measure for a member who simply voiced an alternative opinion. Then again, Tricky Dicky has been trying to get rid of Rhiannon since he took over the leadership and will obviously use whatever method available to do so.
Watch how fast the CPG moves onto the Greens and pretends nothing is happening in the LNP.
Guytaur,
Very droll.
Does anyone know if Lee up for the next half-senate?
Good evening all,
It would be interesting if the NSW greens decided to go it alone in response to the suspension of senator Lee R.
The NSW branch is the financial back bone of the party. At the very least the decision to suspend their senator will not calm over the internal tensions within the party. At the most extreme it could cause a split nationally and the loss of the biggest revenue base for the party.
Whatever results Di Natalie will on shaky leadership foundations. He does not strike me as having the kahunas to stand up and keep the lid on this whole debacle. Appears even Sarah HY realises the implications as she peddles backwards at a great rate of knots.
I love watching this shit explode within the greens. Just another political party.
Cheers.
AdamSpenceAU: Good thing we have a second rate NBN… really slows down the spread of malware. #abc730 #nextweeksspin
Rumours of the death of either the Greens or the Liberals are exaggerated.
I would not be surprised to see Nick McKim make a move for the leadership. He has experience at the state level. Could be a steadying influence. Senator Di Natale has not exactly set the world on fire with his leadership so far.
This link tells you when the terms of Senators expire: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_Australian_Senate,_2016–2019
diogenes @ #602 Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 5:20 pm
Good one!
On a similar note, I’ll believe in homeopathy when it works on Scotch.
Thanks Steve. Lee up for next election.
CTar, what I was asking is would those from the Wollongong area consent to having a 45 minute train service if it meant they ended up looking more like the Gold Coast?
Chris Uhlmann was pretty scathing in his report on ABC news. I think Abbott 2.0 has him a touch excited.
S777
I notice the article goes on about the removals and appointments by George …. and then winds up by saying both parties do it when in power.
Just line Mark Twain, reports of the death of the greens are exaggerated.
Desert Qlder
Membership of the the ‘Failed Seminarian Fellowship’ is a strong bond 🙂
TonyHWindsor: Knew @leerhiannon NSW & Fed Parl -didn’t always agree with her but she at least she consistently believed in something …correct on Gonski
Last night I went to a public lecture by Barry Marshall. I’ve heard him speak before, but this was way more interesting. One thing he said that made my blood boil was how big pharma refused to countenance his and Robin Warren’s proven theory that antibiotics cured stomach ulcers because they would’ve lost money as a result of the then common practice of GPs dispensing ongoing prescriptions for ‘ulcer medication’ which may have relieved symptoms, but not cured patients with the bacterial infection.
Obviously once someone no longer has the bacterial infection they no longer need to keep going back for more ‘ulcer medication’. He also put up copies of rejection letters from journals and conferences which didn’t think their discovery worthy of reporting. Talk about a closed shop!
cc – Can’t help with that. Most of what I know about Wollongong has been learnt driving through.
fess,
That is interesting information. What a mob of grubs!
DQ – On ABC’s lunch time news he described the current Libs situation as a ‘shambles’.
Pyne obviously put back in his box. Seriously, what is the point of this govt?
Labor truly is the only united party in the game at the moment.
Agree with TonyHWindsor.
Puffy:
They would’ve all been forced to eat shit sandwiches all round when Marshall and Warren won the Nobel Prize.
It’s even worse if she has the education portfolio! I’m no fan of Rhiannon, but this is simply extreme. I wonder if this is yet another Di Natale ‘manoeuvre’ that is going to blow up in his face.
Watch how fast the CPG moves onto the Greens and pretends nothing is happening in the LNP.
Watch how fast Abbott moves onto getting the CPG’s attention back on the Libs if they do.
fess,
Yes, last laugh via the Nobel Prize!
Rhiannon has been censured twice before and Di Natale has largely gone out of his way to avoid public conflict with Rhiannon. There’s not much else that can be done. Its not like they could demote her to the backbench.
Also this being a Di Natale initiated political play doesn’t fit with the facts as known unless you think someone with control over every member of the Parliamentary Greens except Rhiannon (because they all signed the complaint) needs a political play against someone on shaky ground in their own state for some bizzare reason.
I imagine Rhiannon won’t have a portfolio following her expulsion from the party room and that they’ll be reassigned. Portfolios are assigned by party room votes, it makes no sense to leave her with them since she can neither guide party room debate nor speak on the party rooms behalf while expelled.
Wollongong has been described as one of the world’s most beautiful industrial cities, at least in terms of its natural setting, on a narrow coastal plain hemmed in between beaches, a Lake and a 400-500 metre escarpment. It also protects Wollongong from being swallowed up by Sydney, especially with the Royal National Park to the North as an additional barrier.
Rhiannon has been sent to the naughty corner.
Tonight’s ABC Ahn Brush With Fame is a must watch, imo, Dr Fiona Wood.
[Anh paints burns specialist & 2005 Australian of the Year Fiona Wood. The daughter of a Yorkshire miner became one of our greatest medical minds & inspires Anh with her enthusiasm & optimism. #AnhsBrushWithFame ]
The Greens` party-room is moving against the rules than can have NSW Greens Senators and MPs bound against the decisions of the Greens` party-room.
https://greens.org.au/news/national/statement-party-room
Ahh this is a temporary suspension while the matter is resolved that makes more sense with retaining portfolios.
Interesting that Bandt didn’t vote in favour of the suspension, he’s probably got the least stake in this.
The article I read doesn’t make clear if he voted against or abstained or if this was a voice vote / show of hands where you can’t tell the difference.
Puffy:
Fiona Wood is another medical researcher I’ve heard speak. She is another with a fascinating story to tell. Mother of 6, an unusual achievement for a woman her age with an accomplished medical and research career. I’m in awe.
Hmmmm. I’m not sure it’s possible to make it impossible for a Senator to be bound, by their branch, to vote in a certain way while being consistent with the Greens Constitution. It would allow the Party Room to effectively overrule branches which is not okay unless some kind of arbitration procedure was decided on for disagreements.
Aren’t senators supposed to represent their state. Wasn’t Lee representing the NSW greens position.
VP – The convention of representing your state must have seemed like a good idea but I wonder if it ever really ‘flew’ in the face of party politics.
elaugaufein @ #697 Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 9:02 pm
Oh dear the poor little Greens struggling to find out how to behave like a grown up party.