Labor’s leadership selection process has concluded with a narrow win for Bill Shorten, whose decisive victory in the caucus vote was enough to outweigh rank-and-file support for Anthony Albanese. As foreshadowed in news reportage over the past two days, Shorten’s caucus support was in the fifties, at 55 votes against 31 for Albanese. The rank-and-file ballot attracted 18,230 votes for Albanese against 12,196 for Shorten. With each accounting for 50% of the total, the final score reads thus:
Caucus Branches Total Bill Shorten 63.95% 40.08% 52.02% Anthony Albanese 36.05% 59.92% 47.98%
[Like Tourette’s sufferers however, “Sean” (or more precisely the author(s) of “Sean” of simply can’t avoid palilia and periodically, coprolalia as well.]
Is this related to their leader’s coprophagic grin?
Psephos
Psychopath, psychopathic
Sociopath, sociopathic
bad cat
Poland = land of the ‘Po’
Holland = land of the ‘Ho’.
[Everybody on the internet is a sociopath]
I thought they were merely narcissistic pds
[“@BernardKeane: the Vicious Bill applies to any corporation, association of any kind or group of 3 people or more. NGO protesters, look out.”
This is Qld Bikie Laws
Returning to Bjelke days]
With all due respect to Bernard I believe the new laws only relate to people who belong to a CMG so for the laws to apply you have to be deemed to be a member of a group deemed to be a criminal motorcycle gang. Having said that I don’t agree with legislation which goes this far.
I know of one person on the internet who is not a sociopath.
Memo to self: check everyone else on the internet for sociopathy.
[Holland = land of the ‘Ho’]
…and the nether?
Psychopath – psychotic – psychosis
Neuropath – neurotic – neurosis
Sociopath – sociotic – sociosis
Why doesn’t this work? Because sociopath is mongrel word created by attaching a Greek suffix (path) to a Latin stem (socio). This is a serious lexical crime, although there are other common examples (television, homosexual). The word actually makes no lexical sense at all. A psychopath has an illness (pathein) of the mind (psyche). A neuropath has in illness of the nerves (neuros). But a sociopath doesn’t have an illness of society. He has an illness of his ability to function in society.
What is all this “repent!” stuff from Abbott?
He was not stuck for words as he said it twice.
Good grief!
It is a wonder that PMJG was not just called a ‘witch’ but would be burnt for one at the moment.
We are really seeing a move back into the Dark Ages.
Who does this self-righteous git think he is?
This is really base level politics.
dwh
Quite right. The democracy thieves are at it again.
[Kinkajou
Posted Tuesday, October 15, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
Everybody on the internet is a sociopath
I thought they were merely narcissistic pds]
That does look good, dusnit?
K
Ho specialising in the nether regions?
To think the DLP was supposed to be dead and gone only to have it reincarnated with St Anthony – bending a knee and kissing whose ring?
Boerwar
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badcat
Mundine would probably get that phrase, and ‘coconut’ as in ‘black on the outside, white on the inside’. I have heard only Indigenous people use the latter term.
I dislike both terms a lot.
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THANK YOU Boerwar – I am absolutely NOT into racism either. I just dont know enough about the man … only that I think he was a ‘Labour’ person at some stage ? – I wonder why the change in his allegiance …. sorry I am not into the minutiae of politics enough like some people on here
Boers
Yup
[I wonder why the change in his allegiance …. sorry I am not into the minutiae of politics enough like some people on here]
Bob Carr may know something about it
Can we get Jenny McAllister into parliament some how?
Watched her at the leadership presser on Sunday and was very impressed. Smart and articulate.
Plus with her spunky new hair do she is a bloody good sort.
Tricot
[To think the DLP was supposed to be dead and gone only to have it reincarnated with St Anthony – bending a knee and kissing whose ring?]
George Pell
Mundine got really offside with the QLD Labor government particularly over the wild rivers legislation.
[If a psychopath is psychotic, why isn’t a sociopath sociotic?]
It’s a common misconception that psychopaths are in any way psychotic. By definition, they are not.
Psychopaths have a personality disorder where they perform criminal acts with no regard for right and wrong. They have no remorse until they get caught, then they deny everything and eventually fake remorse.
They cannot be treated. They are what they are.
People who are psychotic have impaired reality testing; they hear voices, have delusions etc. They normally have an underlying serious illness like schizophrenia, depression or mania.
They can normally be treated as least enough to no longer be psychotic.
Note earlier duck joke.
changing the genders makes it totally acceptable in mixed company.
the genders have already been changed in that telling
Abbott and his friend Pell are by their own admission great admirers of Santamaria…though that is true of some I’m sure in the ALP Right…many are actibe Right to Lifers also
like Senators Farrel and Collins
Some thousands of posts ago I did a small exegesis on the use of the term ‘contrition’ in relation to Abbott.
I pointed out that this had special meaning for catholics of which non-catholics might not be aware.
Repentence is another key word because without repentence, there can be no contrition, penance or absolution.
It is the last term that is, IMHO, a key to understanding Abbott’s catholicism. We all know that Abbott was resolute for four years in publicly minimizing his roman catholicism.
But, guess what fellas, you can take the Mick(ey) out of the church but you can never, ever take the church out of the Abbott.
BB picked up this naughty boy/forgiveness theme years ago.
Does this matter? IMHO, if you put Hugh White’s article together with Abbott’s roman catholicism you get an altar boy doing mea culpa in an inappropriate way in the international diplomatic sphere.
It matters. We should be concerned. We need our altar boy to grow up, not into a priest, nor merely into a shrived sinner – cathartic though his absolution may be personally – but into a prime minister.
And a sociopath is a psychopath pretty much
badcat
[I guess thats for the German AUTOBAHN]
Or my ‘other’ on the Turin bypass …
1999
Because they would be “Holles” (note the double “l”) and the double “l” means that the “e” means nothing and it thus useless.
K
‘Yup’ as in ‘Y’up’?
Apostrophes do matter.
Boerwar
As someone raised a catholic, your post is absolutely spot on. But I somehow dont believe Captain Catholic has it in him to change
v
Thank you for the link to the seven stages of marriage. We enjoyed reading it and have come to the conclusion that we might just be in several stages of marriage…
[It’s a common misconception that psychopaths are in any way psychotic. By definition, they are not. ]
Thanks for that explanation. Nevertheless the words psychopath and psychosis are etymologically related, even if they are semantically different.
Abbott is giving Shorten a gift with all these backhanded compliments of Shorten’s political pragmatism. Shorten can reject them along with that image of him by taking the action – to stand by carbon pricing – he has said he intends anyway.
Boerwar
This may be of interest to you
[Twitter was of course agog with the IPA 70th Birthday Bash, speculating on what happened there, annoyed that the likes of Sky News & ABC didn’t really tell us too much, particularly when guests were such luminaries such as Rupert Murdoch (keynote speaker), Gina Rinehart, Cardinal George Pell, Andrew Bolt (MC), Victorian Premier Denis Napthine, Melbourne Mayor Robert Doyle… with a special address by Tony Abbott. Now you would think, that many influential people and more, in one room would be considered newsworthy? Apparently, not so much at all. A little bit of footage about protesters outside the dinner who were wanting to ‘Jail Murdoch Not Assange’ and that was about it.]
http://yathink.com.au/article-display/is-the-ipa-dinner-address-finally-a-glimpse-of-the-true-tony-abbott,63
Regarding the carbon tax I doubt Labor will ever repent, be contrite or receive absolution however they sure are doing penance. Mind you so are all of us.
Is an Autobahn a big roofed building where you buy Autos at the checkout, and celebrate with a sausage with dead horse wrapped in white bread at the exit?
@abcnewsSydney: Premier anticipating swing to ALP at weekend by-election http://t.co/roZpQtnGLP
This is for the seat of Miranda
v
Thanks. Interesting.
Boerwar@2029
Lol!
Henry@2017
She is another example of what happens when you allow the rank and file to participate in election of party office bearers.
Can we have more please?
With all his comments on carbon tax repeal Abbott sounds desperate to me.
He must be more worried about the new Senate than I had anticipated.
DisplayName
[Abbott is giving Shorten a gift with all these backhanded compliments of Shorten’s political pragmatism.]
Abbott may be doing a Br’er Rabbit re the carbon price. He has no black flip option if Shorten waves it through.
victoria
Posted Tuesday, October 15, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink
Boerwar
This may be of interest to you
Twitter was of course agog with the IPA 70th Birthday Bash, speculating on what happened there, annoyed that the likes of Sky News & ABC didn’t really tell us too much, particularly when guests were such luminaries such as Rupert Murdoch (keynote speaker), Gina Rinehart, Cardinal George Pell, Andrew Bolt (MC), Victorian Premier Denis Napthine, Melbourne Mayor Robert Doyle… with a special address by Tony Abbott. Now you would think, that many influential people and more, in one room would be considered newsworthy? Apparently, not so much at all. A little bit of footage about protesters outside the dinner who were wanting to ‘Jail Murdoch Not Assange’ and that was about it.
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What’s the diffence between a cactus plant – and the IPA Birthday Bash ?????
The cactus has all the pricks on the outside ….
bemused
‘Can we have more please?’
The Tea Party’s use of rank and file power is an exemplar of what can be done by an unruly, unergetic and sociopathic and/or sociopathic rump: they can destroy sensible policy making, devour their Party, and send their nation to the brink of financial disaster.
guytaur when latest polling is showing 60% are against the CPRS all Abbott is doing is reminding them what he is trying to do and who will be responsible for preventing him from doing it. It’s Politics101.
And I agree with poroti that it would be a problem for Abbott if Labor actually let him have his was on the CPRS.
Bw
[s an Autobahn a big roofed building where you buy Autos at the checkout, and celebrate with a sausage with dead horse wrapped in white bread at the exit?]
If a sausage is available (with compulsory sauce) I haven’t noticed.
The bit after Turin is a bit cross-country.
Boerwar@2042
Sounds more like your loony Informal Party than the ALP I am familiar with.
davidwh
Nah. I have heard pollies doing that. Abbott sounds nervous not confident.
Of course it may have something to do with the fact he knows electricity prices will not go down.
He can only use that lie if he expects repeal to fail
The Liberals do not have carbon repeal legislation. They may had a draft bill but I am not sure whether they have lodged it.
I will hazard a guess that the relevant Bill(s) will be sent off to a Senate Committee and that the passage of the Bill(s) will involve arcane parliamentary tactics involving amendments.
If the Senate has its wits about it, the Committee will not submit its Report until the week before the new Senate is formed.
I suggest that the latter is likely because (a) Labor under Rudd announced that it had got rid of the carbon tax… so how can they vote against it and (b) Labor will want to hold to the ETS policy, which is, despite its flaws a good policy.
And, over time, good policy is good politics.
Psephos – I think you’ll find the ALP changed the Presidential rotation at the last National Conference.
Jenny McAllister is in the second year of her three year term.
bemused
I thought you would appreciate it.