The News Limited tabloids bring a Galaxy poll, conducted between Tuesday to Thursday from 1000 respondents, which has the Coalition’s leading 55-45 from primary votes of 32% for Labor, 48% for the Coalition and 11% for the Greens. On the question of the Labor leadership, 32% believed the party should stick with Julia Gillard, 26% believed she should be replaced with Kevin Rudd, and 33% opted for “a fresh face such as Bill Shorten or Greg Combet”. Worryingly for the goverment, 59% nominated that the Coalition “would be ready” to govern against 36% who thought otherwise.
UPDATE (11/3): Essential Research provides further evidence that Labor’s slump has bottomed out and perhaps even reversed slightly. Labor is up two points on the primary vote to 34% with both the Coalition and the Greens down a point, to 48% and 9%, with the Coalition two-party lead back to 55-45 after two weeks at 56-44. Monthly personal ratings find Julia Gillard essentially unchanged after copping a hit last month, her approval steady at 36% and disapproval up one to 56%, while Tony Abbott is respectively up one to 37% and down two to 51%. Abbott has pulled level on preferred prime minister, which is at 39-39, after trailing 39-37 last time.
Essential has also performed one of its occasional experiments where it divides its sample in two and asks each differently worded questions, in this case relating to immigration. The money finding here is that 38% deem boat arrivals most important from a list of issues against 20% who nominate 457 visa, but this changes to 33% and 31% if the numbers involved (15,000 boat arrivals and 150,000 457 visas) are provided. Further questions find 22% broadly in favour of privatisation and 58% broadly against, with respondents also given a list of services and asked which should be run by the government and which privately. The evenly divided “Telecommunications (including broadband services)” was the only one for which being run by the government wasn’t heavily favoured.
orry, I will try again:
[ Tricot
Posted Monday, March 11, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Permalink
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Question for a Labor supporter:
Who was the worst PM in the last 30 years.
Answer: Too hard as most were tossers.
]
As Labor was responsible for the complete restructuring of our economy and as a result the standard of living we are enjoying today, it’s a pretty stupid answer.
[Come 5, 50 or 100 years from now, JG will be noted as Australia’s first female PM.
History alone will show her to have been a leader and you and I will be unknown dust.]
So true, Tricot. History will be very kind to JG after the trash is sorted.
Kevin Labor back to 50/50 😉
@2201
Yep, the reference should have read “Liberal tossers” which I corrected later.
My post was in reply to alias who claimed the PM would be remember for the negatives not the positives.
I suggested Winston Churchill’s many negatives have long been forgotten and those of the PM will not be remembered either.
Most Labor supporters would consider most conservative PMs tossers, and if they don’t, they should.
BB – read the half dozen posts from various people all making the same point. Saying the “average speed of wi-fi is a lot less than 186,000 kps” is just silly.
[
THE Queensland government is sending out its own commando unit to hunt down business in the lucrative defence sector.
With a 26 per cent share of national defence industry activity, Queensland is already the second-biggest state for defence employment and home to a quarter of Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel.
Premier Campbell Newman says the new Defence Industries Queensland (DIQ) unit will build on this.]
Sounds great, but the small print lobs…
[The new DIQ unit will employ three staff redeployed from the Department of State Development, Infrastructure and Planning.]
Some great announcement Cant Do.
Davidwh
Sorry, what is “Kevin Labor back to 50/50?” please?
Something new out?
[…In their words “give the reactionary *&)kwits and neoliberal market stooges hiding under the cover of Menzies’ shadows full rein. After 3 or 4 years of being shafted up the ar$e without Vaseline maybe then enough of those with sore ar$eholes will have had enough, and maybe by then the Labor party will have remembered why it was invented in the first place”]
Bloody hell… quick, vote Labor NOW!!!!
2145
Thomas. Paine.
[>2. a perception by the coddled Darwin dwellers that the CLP is repaying bush electorates with cash handouts for delivering them government.
I think is a meme with no basis in fact. I haven’t heard anybody even raise this as subject let alone an issue. And I don’t think most could give a hoot if there were a ‘repaying’ of the bush electorates.]
Agreed.
Complete bullshit, with an element of divisive race baiting thrown in just for good measure.
Compact Crank
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Confessions @2176 – “I never saw one Labor advert attacking the Barnett govt over its utilities rises. ”
Because the rises had to happen – the ALP froze energy prices for 11 Years – if the ALP had not frozen prices for 11 years there would not have been so much pent up pain.]
Because you and your rotten 6PR, Worst Australian and Liberal mates ran out “starving,freezing” pensioner scare campaigns at the mere suggestion such increases were needed.
Who would have thunk that Obeid & Richo are good mates and to think Richo has been accusing PM thrashing the Labor Brand
[ruawake
Posted Monday, March 11, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Permalink
Oh crap another Green doing piddley Pow and socking the ALP right between the eyes.
The Labor party is the party of the working class. Its problem is people feel they are in a class they are not.
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Just because you run a small business does not mean you are a business tycoon, you are a plumber etc you are working class.]
A self employed plumber does not see the union as his friend.
And I am not talking about plumbers.
In 2006, Men Bachelor or higher degrees (23%).
Women Bachelor or higher degree (25%).
Working class is shrinking demographic, enjoy opposition.
Tricot.. OK you make a fair point.
But in doing so, that’s a fascinating insight into your thinking.
You’re more concerned to note that punters in 50 years won’t remember that JG’s refusal to budge heralded the way for a radical, long-running stretch of conservative government, than that…
This is the reality we, here and now, might very well be about to be faced with.
I think the funniest Newspoll would be 54/46 as that would simply create more uncertainty and force Labor to try and hang on to Gillard a little bit longer…as she slowly sinks further into the quicksand. Like a sick person who keeps putting off going to the doctor because they have a day where symptoms get better….
Crank
[And you were perfectly happy to upgrade your modem and computer out of your own pocket as technology and demand changed – paying private sector companies to provide the necessary hardware and software – you didnt rely on the public sector or balance sheet]
Fibre optic cables are infrastructure, not hardware or software. Its a ridiculous analogy. You build your own roads that you drive on do you? Never set foot on public roads? We will all still be upgrading our modems and computers out of our own pocket, we’ll just be using them on an NBN which the private sector would never have built in a million years.
Alias,
as has been pointed out above – the cash for houses is completely irrelevant to anything in NT politics at the moment.
Wow NSW Labor really stinks………
[In 2006, Men Bachelor or higher degrees (23%).
Women Bachelor or higher degree (25%).
Working class is shrinking demographic, enjoy opposition.]
Thanks for proving my point, there are many working class with a degree, they just don’t see themselves as boring wage earners who are really working class.
The down pit, or in the steel mills workers have been replaced, by people with degrees who vote against their best interests.
52/48 libs
Followed by BB back tracking on his new Rudd stance.
[Rohan Gilchrist @rohangilchrist
http://bit.ly/IHietU exploding FTTN cabinets. Fantastic. 70,000 time bombs around Australia. FTTH doesn’t have this. #NBN #AusPol]
This is what the Liberals want to give us. Expluding fibre to the node, give me fibre to the home so the modem can get it’s power from already installed infustructure.
Just referring to Kevin’s 2200, nothing serious sorry
Crank’s at it again Poroti
The fact that the Liberals – aided by the Big End of Town – probably found 5 dollars for every 1 Labor had kind of escapes him.
Don’t you know you and I are living in the Conservative Paradise in WA? It is just so good with Colin and it is going to be so much better with Tony. You just wait and see.
There are no poor here, and if there are, they deserve to be. Let them eat cake or go to our new you-beaut footy stadium.
Look, anyone in Perth can afford entrees in restaurants at $30 each, main courses at $50 each and desserts at $30 with wine at somewhere between $30 and $50 a bottle. Even pensioners as the wealth has “filtered” down to them don’t you know according to the Liberal hand-book? Just like the proverbial running down the walls of you know where.
After all, we are living the Conservative Dream here – a 4×4 in the car port, a really big boat and trailer and a snazzy little Cooper S for the missus.
Just keep digging it up and hoping the Chinese will continue to buy it. That is all you have to worry about.
It’s that damn witch Julia Gillard who threatens it all.
Just wait until Tony gets in. Cake to eat, lemonade to drink and all problems solved.
A Conservative Paradise I tell you.
[ruawake
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Thanks for proving my point, there are many working class with a degree, they just don’t see themselves as boring wage earners who are really working class.
The down pit, or in the steel mills workers have been replaced, by people with degrees who vote against their best interests.
]
Justifying opposition by blaming the voters doesn’t make it better.
OK I’m willing to accept the consensus view that the payments on houses issue is not such a big deal in Darwin right now. I’d heard otherwise from solid sources.
“@MrDenmore: Well, there’s the next Underbelly script written #4corners”
[A self employed plumber does not see the union as his friend.]
Hogwash… who do you think regulates his trade and ticket?
All workers, skilled, tertiary educated or whatever are represented by a ‘union’ of sorts. This is a garbage argument built on Union BOO tactics.
Sadly the effort and sacrifice of generations of unionists to progress this nation and protect fairness in society have to be shared by those that do bugger all.
Boerwar@2144
Rest assured, I don’t. And I neither a Liberal nor a troll.
alias – I don’t agree with your basic assumption.
That the conservatives will win is far from certain.
That they would survive, if they do win, in this day and age, any longer than one term, is questionable.
All that will be remembered is that JG was the first female PM of WA.
Sadly, once a generation moves on, nobody really knows or cares so it is all dust in the wind.
What is Billy McMahon remembered for? What is Harold Holt remembered for while Cook and Watson, early Oz PMs, are remembered as names on the Trans line as halts.
Ask anyone under 30 who Bob Menzies was, and apart form an informed few, you will get blank stares.
Whoops and I mean in 2228 Australia.
[Gecko
Posted Monday, March 11, 2013 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
A self employed plumber does not see the union as his friend.
Hogwash… who do you think regulates his trade and ticket?
All workers, skilled, tertiary educated or whatever are represented by a ‘union’ of sorts. This is a garbage argument built on Union BOO tactics.
]
If you say so Gecko. But as I work in construction I think I have a pretty good chance of forming my own opinion. As I said Gecko enjoy opposition.
A better cause of action would be to consider why the message of social awkward nerd (lets be honest that is what Rudd is) captured the public’s imagination.
“@AntonyGreenABC: Labor now leads the race in Kimberley after counting Mobile booth #wavotes”
Bushfire …
Never negotiate with a narcissistic sociopath …they only see it as a weakness to exploit…
What chance Pell could be left at the vatican never to grace these shores again?
Yeah, I know. Wishful thinking.
MTBW
here’s the transcript of Albo’s speech.
http://www.burwoodscene.com.au/2012/04/27/the-albo-transcript/
His major argument for returning Rudd was that he was dudded.
j.v.
People deciding that they were going to replace Rudd with Gillard is not evidence that Gillard was guilty of treachery, just that she was the obvious replacement.
Certainly there was dissatisfaction with Rudd’s leadership a lot further out than is generally acknowledged.
That’s an entirely different matter to whether or not JG leaked against Rudd.
NBN Mediawatch in a minute
rua
Queensland has a DIQ unit? That’s not news. That’s the Queensland Government under Newman.
There is a handy rule with acronyms: you always read the acronym as it if it is a word in its own right BEFORE you use it, lest it embarrass your premier.
Some diqhead has failed to follow this rule.
alias
[ payments on houses issue is not such a big deal in Darwin right now.]
Faark me. Housing costs were totally over the top in the mid to late 2000’s due to things like the LNG plant. From all reports it has got waaay worse since then.
I don’t mind people criticising Labor, I do mind them being inconsistent about it.
We have the ‘Labor should stand up for its principles’ contradicted by ‘Labor should go for a leader who can win votes.’
We have ‘Labor should return to its roots’ contradicted by ‘Labor shouldn’t be the party of unions and the working class.’
We have ‘Labor should be more progressive’ …contradicted in this case by the polls, which suggest that the progressive vote is shrinking.
Have been waiting all day for someone to fill me in on the ‘she’ll be gone by Friday’ scenario.
Lots of speculation.
Where are the facts and mechanics?
So say, the “vibes” around Canberra as just “so strong”.
Come on then, out with it.
Mediawatch is doing how the ABC suppresses facts.
“@AntonyGreenABC: Labor reach 20 seats if they hold current leads in Belmont and Kimberley #wavotes”
NBN mediawatch now
Today’s Essential knocked my aggregate back below 55 even though it was itself a 55. May seem a bit odd to have an aggregate of 54.6 off a sample consisting entirely of 55s and 56s but the most recent 55s were both from pollsters at the Coalition end of the scale.
Yikes :devil:
That Four Corners report is not going to be good for the ALP Brand.
Ugly, ugly, ugly…
Well 4 corners just ended. I think the Labors party’s biggest mistake this year was holding the national conference in Sydney. The PM’s biggest mistake wa probable showing up. Wanking on about what the Labor party isn’t was probable minor.
Guytaur,
Very interesting, Labor now has the most votes, though I’m not sure how much is left to count. The count was very low for quite some time (around 50%), presumably because its a very remote electorate and its a four-cornered contest of sorts. This may become a case study for/against preferential voting for some time. It will be interesting to see how the preferences went.
guytaur@2241
If it is 20 then William fights the Newspoll and wins as his pick was 21. Not that the Newspoll was that far wrong itself compared to some.
bemused
‘Boerwar@2144
bemused
‘Boerwar@2004
I see that people are still trying to discuss Rudd as if he is sane.
Good luck with that.
Well I wouldn’t make that mistake about you.’
Why, bemused, you little old Liberal troll you, I didn’t know you cared.
Rest assured, I don’t. And I neither a Liberal nor a troll.’
Of course you are, you coy thing. You quack like a Liberal concern troll. You waddle around like a Liberal concern troll. You are all fuss and feathers like a Liberal concern troll. And you have one aim in life on Bludger… to get the conversation around to Rudd and leadership, just like any other good Liberal concern troll. You can admit it. You have been fantastically successful troll in Bludger history. You do nice little two-steps with some of the other trolls and stray Greens as well. Sock puppets are they?
Now, be a good little spear carrier for Abbott and off you go to Menzies House and get your instructions for tomorrow’s Liberal concern troll activities.
Mod Lib
[
Yikes
That Four Corners report is not going to be good for the ALP Brand.]
‘kin oath Obeid is ugly.Look at his maaates and connections. Obeid and Nutt,Obeid and Santoro ,Obeid and Sinodinos. Is there a pattern forming ? 🙂
Ugly, ugly, ugly…
Finns: yes, look at Obeid , think of Richo and thank god for Albo
[Look at his maaates and connections. Obeid and Nutt,Obeid and Santoro ,Obeid and Sinodinos.]
And the possibility/likelihood the tentacles of Obeid stretch into the NSW Liberal govt and the Premier’s office.
Sunlight on Obeid please, and lots of it.