Seat of the week: Petrie

Petrie covers a narrow strip of Brisbane’s northern suburbs from Carseldine north to Burpengary. This includes three distinct areas: at the centre, the Redcliffe Peninsula; further north along the coast, Deception Bay and the developing suburb of North Lakes; and, on the southern side of Pine River which separates the Moreton Bay local government area from Brisbane, the suburbs of Bracken Ridge, Fitzgibbon and Carseldine. The redistribution before the 2010 election added the Deception Bay area (previously in Longman) and transferred coastal suburbs at the southern end to Lilley, which boosted the Labor margin by 2.1%.

The electorate was created with the enlargement of parliament in 1949 and held consistently by the Liberals until 1983, barring a surprise defeat in 1961. It again changed hands from Labor to Liberal in 1984 and back again in 1987. Gary Johns held the seat for Labor for the next three terms, until the Queensland Labor wipeout of 1996 powered a 9.8% swing to Liberal candidate Teresa Gambaro. Gambaro’s margin was reduced to 0.8% when the elastic snapped back to Labor by 7.5% in 1998, but she was strengthened by successive swings of 2.7% in 2001 and 4.4% in 2004. Gambaro had a 7.9% buffer going into the 2007 election, but it was not enough to save her from a 9.5% swing to Labor’s Yvette D’Ath, who had previously been an official with the Right faction Australian Workers Union. Gambaro was back at the 2010 election, when she unseated Labor’s Arch Bevis in Brisbane.

A Liberal National Party preselection last weekend was won by Luke Howarth, managing director of Sandgate Pest Control and a past candidate for the state seat of Sandgate (which is actually located over the boundary in Lilley). Howarth prevailed out of a preselection field of 10, of whom the presumed front-runner had been John Connolly, former Wallabies coach and unsuccessful state candidate for Nicklin, who had the endorsement of John Howard.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Diogenes
    [Is that fair?]
    Well, let’s face it, that’s stupid.

    But, I guess you want the failure to be placed squarely on Ellis’ shoulders.

    Just come clean, buddie.

    If we lose, woman’s fault.
    If we win, male kudos.

    You just exemplified my 243.

  2. Outsider@136

    [Looking at today’s Jakarta Globe, there is a report on 66 asylum seekers stranded on an island in Indonesian waters. Indonesian police are on their way to the island to arrest the asylum seekers.

    This follows the arrests of 53 people by the Indonesian coast guard at sea on Friday, and another 102 asylum seekers were also arrested in raids around Bogor and Sukubumi earlier this month.

    A few tangible signs of progress from the Indonesian side following the Darwin meeting between Julia Gillard and SBY.]

    Very interesting. I am hopeful something meaningful will come out of the Houston report.

  3. [zoomster
    Posted Saturday, July 28, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    fredn

    I think you just proved Boer’s point…]

    Perhaps; I see someone bothered to read it and pointed out Indonesia is putting up the cash for 6 fighters not 120. Even then you have to accept that Indonesia is going to invade us.

    It was just paragraphs of rambling, using big words. Why would anyone bother responding with sound arguments.

  4. [bemused
    Posted Saturday, July 28, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
    ..
    His mother-in-law is the Governor General. How would that be if he was to become leader? Nothing to do with misogyny.]

    Well aware of the fact, but kezza2 got it right.

    kezza2 @ 239

  5. lizzie @ 240

    I couldn’t agree with you more.

    Unfortunately, with doctors restricting their surgery hours, and there being a shortage of doctors, people have had to resort to hospitals.
    However, I think the extra funding for ‘medical centres’ may help here.

    The other side of this (and here I’m showing my age and experience!) is that many people have lost the old skills of looking after themselves – the old ‘feed a cold, starve a fever sort of stuff’. Now everyone seems to want an antibiotic for most unsuitable things. Could rave on for a long time, but won’t 🙂

    I would hope most would have a bit of antiseptic, a few band-aids and some panadol at least. I keep a bit more than that but I just wonder at those that are off to the doctor or Emergency Department with next to nothing wrong.

    A really good thing now is the nurse on call so if you are concerned about symptoms, you can run it past someone qualified.

    I am probably a bit too far the other way (like a lot of blokes) with health issues and hold off going to hospital or the doctor when maybe I should.

  6. Toorak Toff,

    [ Shorten might have to live to a ripe old age to be PM. ]

    If he gets there before Charles becomes King, then it won’t be too bad.

    Bad enough though. Lizzy will easily see out a ton! 😉

  7. Schnappi,

    One of the Australian women rowers, Kim Crow, was a couple of years ahead of my daughter at school. She was (and remains) an amazing person – an exceptional sportswoman, brilliant academically, and a fine debater.

    I have a vivid memory of her in the Junior School sports carnival when she was in Year 7, and captain of one of the houses. The final race of the day was a 4 x 400m relay with a team from each house. Kim was anchor for her house, and the baton changed hands when the rest of the anchors were nearly halfway around the oval. She ran them down.

    After she left school, Kim went to the Victorian Institute of Sport and was in training for hurdles; unfortunately, she suffered stress fractures in her foot, and switched to rowing.

    I wish her all the best for the London Olympics.

  8. psyclaw @ 243

    Bemused at 224

    Normally I read your posts and get a laugh as others rightly (but in vain) try to instil some common sense in you.

    But your post at 224 is real shite.

    I am not responsibility for your stupidity.

  9. This was probably posted earlier today, but I have only just seen it.

    [THE colourful Queensland mining billionaire Clive Palmer has hit back at federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s warning to the Chinese earlier this week that their state-owned enterprises are not welcome to take over Australian businesses.]

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/palmer-seeks-to-steady-china-ship-in-wake-of-abbotts-warning-20120727-22zmj.html#ixzz21uWyE7QS

  10. Kezza2 @ 255,

    Would I have agreed with Diogenes if he was being misogynistic?

    What he actually wrote was:

    [I think the kudos should go to Kate if we do well and we dump on Arbib if it all goes to sh!t and we lose badly to the Poms.]

    i.e., Ms Ellis gets the glory if the Australian team does well; Mr Arbib gets the blame if it does badly.

    What’s misogynistic about that?

  11. kezza2 @ 263

    I think you are misunderstanding the issue.

    As I understand it, Bemused is saying that Shorten, as PM now, would have his mother-in-law as GG, and there may be, not necessarily would be, some ethical/constitutional issue arising.

    At least that is the way I understand his point.

    It’s got nothing to do with your 1 to 4 points.

  12. kezza2 @ 263

    You always miss the point of your misogyny, bemused

    1. you dispute what a woman has decided.
    2. you make out that she is not really responsible for her decision.
    3. you’re going to do it your way, any way
    4. If it all turns to shit, well it’s her fault.

    More evidence that you have lost the plot… if you ever had it.

    You don’t see things being, at the very least, awkward if Shorten were to lead the ALP with his mother-in-law as GG?

  13. fiona

    Thanks for info

    For people talking about shortens motherinlaw is nonsense, if shorten were to be PM at any stage, then nothing to do with GG and never damn was, just be mealy mouthed.

    Would think the GG would have moved to something else in her brilliant career, when and if shorten became PM.

  14. Schnappi @ 270

    For people talking about shortens motherinlaw is nonsense, if shorten were to be PM at any stage, then nothing to do with GG and never damn was, just be mealy mouthed.

    Would think the GG would have moved to something else in her brilliant career, when and if shorten became PM.

    Which is exactly why I said “in the short term”. I am not sure when her term is up or if she might be re-appointed.

  15. Bemused,

    Ms Bryce’s term expires next year (September, I think).

    I’d be more than happy to see her accepting another five years. But I also think it would be well worthwhile appointing Michael Kirby.

    He would be exemplary in many ways, and his appointment would totally, but totally, get up the noses of Our Tones, Mr Howard, Hyacinth, and numerous others.

    Kezza2, as I see it the real problem – were Mr Shorten to become PM and Ms Bryce still to be GG – would be one of perception on the part of the Oz public, a perception that would almost certainly be fostered for all it was worth by our singularly unbiased mainstream Mordia.

  16. fiona @ 276

    I think you are correct.

    The present GG does an exemplary job and is a great role model. I would be loath to see her replaced by anyone, but your suggestion of Michael Kirby is a good one if she were not to accept re-appointment.

    You are dead right about the problem with Shorten. But I think it does go beyond mere perception. Perhaps one of our lawyers could shed some light on it?

  17. Bemused at 264

    “I am not responsibility (sic)for your stupidity”

    Guess I’ll just have to join the club. I note that you use this hackneyed retort regularly.

  18. psyclaw @ 278

    Guess I’ll just have to join the club. I note that you use this hackneyed retort regularly.

    Only where it fits.

  19. bemused,

    I yam a lawyer I yam, and my understanding of constitutional law is that there would not be a problem.

    It does – seriously – get back to perception, and all of us here should be well-acquainted with the way that perception can be manipulated.

  20. Quentin Bryce’s term expires in September 2013. Usually a successor is announced a few months before taking up the office. Bryce’s appointment was announced in June-July 2008.

    So Labor should be able to appoint the next GG before, if current polling is indicative, the grub Abbott gets the opportunity to appoint one of his right-wing mates.

    Michael Kirby would be an excellent appointment, but would the Government have the ticker to do it? Hope so.

  21. fiona;

    so you make a mistake and everything you have to say is wrong. Yeah.
    Well, I don;t think so.

    Alright, I had a go a Diogenes (he’s not been the most shiny of feminist supporters in the past and I get a bit tired of feminine beauty be the be all and end all) and a tongue-in-cheek pass-off to Arbib doesn;t sanctify Diogenes, imo. Be that as it may.

    All the rest I’ve had to say, all the other examples, are misogynistic.

    Bemused,
    [You don’t see things being, at the very least, awkward if Shorten were to lead the ALP with his mother-in-law as GG?]
    Not at all.
    But, that’s not what you were on about.
    Go back and check your original post.

    It would be really good if you could just admit your folly.
    But, I know it won’t happen.

    Onwards

  22. Good evening all.

    I see the usual suspects are still fighting reality. This time the GG and her relatives are the impediments to….whatever it might be. No logical, sensible explanation is ever given by them. Just the now-standard anti Gillard rant.

  23. fiona @ 280

    I yam a lawyer I yam,

    Oh yes, I forgot that.
    And, IIRC, you are no longer practising so I presume you got it right and don’t need to practice any more. 😉

    Yes, perception can be manipulated, but it is always best to avoid situations that are open to mis-perception.

  24. [So Labor should be able to appoint the next GG before, if current polling is indicative, the grub Abbott gets the opportunity to appoint one of his right-wing mates.]

    An election is due towards the end of next year, and “current polling” has SFA to do with it.

    In fact the only time that “current polling” in any way comes into play is if there is a leadership change in Labor, which would increase the likelihood of an election occurring before the expiration of the current parliamentary term.

    Do you think that Labor would win an early election? If not, then why continue banging on about changing leaders?

  25. bemused,

    [IIRC, you are no longer practising so I presume you got it right and don’t need to practice any more.]

    Yep, that’s why I stopped 😉

    Kezza2,

    I think I’ve been known to defend you when you have been misinterpreted.

    Rummel,

    [JWH wil be the next GG]

    You’re dreaming, mate. Hyacinth wants the gig.

  26. rummel
    Posted Saturday, July 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    JWH will be the next GG

    Labor will make the appointment and it will not be little johnnie 🙂

  27. kezza2 @ 282

    Bemused,

    You don’t see things being, at the very least, awkward if Shorten were to lead the ALP with his mother-in-law as GG?

    Not at all.
    But, that’s not what you were on about.
    Go back and check your original post.

    It would be really good if you could just admit your folly.
    But, I know it won’t happen.

    WRONG!

    It was at all times what I was talking about and there is no other sensible interpretation. Any married man usually has a mother-in-law. What is the distinguishing characteristic of his? There is only one sensible answer.

  28. Honestly, this talk about the GG and Shorten is really childish. Does not reflect well on this board or the members contributing to this non-discussion.

    Grow up.

  29. [JWH wil be the next GG]

    JWH needs an Abbott govt to put his name forward.

    Given that won’t happen, I think its unlikely Howard will be GG.

  30. [feeney

    ethical/constitutional issue arising.

    At least that is the way I understand his point.
    ]

    Ted Baillieu’s mates did a better job of trying to justify his actions.

  31. dIO
    [ I think the kudos should go to Kate if we do well and we dump on Arbib if it all goes to sh!t and we lose badly to the Poms.

    Is that fair?

    ]
    Absolutely.

  32. confessions @ 283

    I see the usual suspects are still fighting reality. This time the GG and her relatives are the impediments to….whatever it might be. No logical, sensible explanation is ever given by them. Just the now-standard anti Gillard rant.

    AFAIR no-one mentioned Gillard, pro or anti and certainly no-one had a rant.

    Sorry to disturb your fantasies.

  33. What about Bob Carr as GG?

    Hawkie’s probably too old.

    Keating wouldn’t accept.

    If abbott had the chance, he would put howard in there in a heart beat, but he won’t get the chance.

    Nor will he make the two appointments to the HC which are due prior to the 2013 election.

  34. [rummel
    Posted Saturday, July 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    JWH wil be the next GG]

    You really are away with the fairies.

  35. confessions @ 286

    What on earth are you on about? I made no mention of changing leaders. I was referring to the circumstances, IF Shorten was PM right NOW, would there be any ethical/constitutional issues to address?

    In my opinion there wouldn’t be problems. But you, of all people, would understand how the MSM et al would carry on about it.

    Now, FCS, stop being so sensitive.

  36. kezza2 @ 300

    fiona

    the law’s an ass, mate,
    And you know it.

    I wasn’t asking you to defend me, at all.

    bemused’s bullshit has ever been thus.

    pity you decided to let him believe you’d defend him if push came to shove.

    Gawd… where does all this come from?

  37. [Ted Baillieu’s mates did a better job of trying to justify his actions.]

    The anti Gillard crowd here are in the same ‘league’.

    The only thing you can derive from their rhetoric is that they’d rather see an Abbott govt just so they can crow about Rudd, than see a Labor govt continue to deliver substantive policy measures.

    Each to their own I guess.

  38. kezza2,

    Yeah, that’s why I no longer practise.

    As for bemused, I did NOT decide

    [to let him believe you’d defend him if push came to shove.]

    I have been known to agree with bemused on a couple of issues, e.g., organ donation, and vaccination, but that’s about as far as it goes.

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