Roy Morgan hasn’t let itself be put off by the flak it copped with last week’s small-sample poll results from the four inner-city Labor-versus-Greens contests, repeating the exercise with only a slightly larger sample of 327 respondents. Taken together they show Labor leading the Greens 53-47, which is seven points better for Labor than last week’s poll. All told this points to a 3 per cent swing to the Greens compared with 2006, which if uniform would just tip Labor out in Melbourne, but leave them safe in Richmond, Brunswick and Northcote. This is indeed borne out by the seat-by-seat breakdowns, which have it at 50-50 in Melbourne, 57-43 in Richmond, 52-48 in Brunswick and 52.5-47.5 in Northcote. The margin of error on the combined result is approaching 5.5 per cent.
UPDATE: Now Morgan offers a spiffy video display of worm-style Reactor responses to various election ads. It finds Coalition voters were far more positive about their own side’s advertising than were Labor’s, but that Labor appeared to offer both the most (attacking Liberal spending plans) and least (the famous Baillieu Knight Frank ad) effective attack ads. Labor also did pretty well among independents and Greens with a humanised John Brumby’s fireside chat on the economy. Labor’s meerkat and the Liberals’ are we there yet attack ads failed to impress Greens and independents in roughly equal measure, but the Liberals did better with their mouldy fruit ad. The Greens ad, once it began laying on the hard sell, found Labor voters responding barely less positively than to ads from their own side, while Coalition and independent voters headed south.
Diogenes
considering all the negative publicity Rann received, Labor got over the line pretty comfortably.
Ron
Why are all your posts the same?
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vic
Considering he lost the popular vote 48.5-51.5 he really got over the line quite easily.
victoria,
I always find that a delicious result given Diogs relentlessly similar abusive posts against Rann. The smear and sleaze oozed from every corpuscle of his posts.
SA predictions
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2010/03/20/newspoll-52-48-to-liberal-in-sa/comment-page-1/#comment-431246
GG
The abuse directed at Rann either by the media or Dio, obviously didn’t work 🙂
Some find it a difficult decision to decide who to put last on the voting paper.
It really is very simple.
Just always put the Greens last, and you know you are doing the right and best thing for yr country and mankind
Knock it off, you lot.
Victoria
about a dozen posters predict SA Labor winning by a majority of 1 or a few seats (th latter group were rite , SA Labor is in majority
I also thought that , but in list of predictors , only diogenous predicted a tie I couldn’t afford an amatiur diog fluking th rite result all alone , so I plumped for that as well
I need not hav worried , diog is always wRONg
(yes that abuse at Rann espec false Rann sex stuff that Dio and othrs re-posted from Tabloids did not prevent Rann winning
Ron
Brumby has not had to deal with a feral media in my opinion. Yet, I am concerned about Saturday.
Victoria
You’ve got every rite to be concerned s its a 4th term Govt and they’re hard to win
Seriously , fact that Balleua dis-associted from th Greens will help him n S/east Seats like mitcham , FH , mt waverly , burwood and out to Gembrooks cause there voters is not into Greens popcorn & its a turn off , but its time feding into reel world working peoples issues of trains and law & order cn bite after a long govt in office
to be long Sat nite , expect a reduced majority , and into a 4th term thats pretty good tho Labor’s record deserves an incr majority
Peter Ryan is doing an Abbott! 30 towns in 30 hours is his plan for the last day of campaigning according to nine news
Thanks for the responses earlier guys. So Newspoll, Nielsen, Galaxy and a Morgan look likely.
madcyril
I’m sure at least one will come out late tonight. If I ran one of them I would be churning out those numbers as fast as I could to make the late news on TV.
RR
Hopefully GhostWhoVotes will be on the ball and gives us the good oil early!
265
But will he do it for the only poll that counts?
Ryan wants to be Premier more than Baillieu lol!
And everyone thought the pollies had no ethics.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/11/25/herald-sun-caught-trying-to-entrap-victorian-mps/
For those interested in the issue of protecting Victoria’s native forests from logging and wood chipping:
The Wilderness Society has produced a summary of where the major parties stand.
http://www.wilderness.org.au/regions/victoria/everything-you-need-to-know-victoria2019s-forests-and-the-state-election
Further information is available in a report by the National Institute of Economic and Industry Research (NIEIR), ‘Opportunities, issues and implications for a transition of the Victorian wood products industry from native forest into plantations’. This report outlines the opportunities for the native forest industry to shift into Victoria’s extensive plantation estate, starting immediately.
http://www.wilderness.org.au/articles/new-study-shows-way-out-of-native-forests-for-victorian-timber-industry
Pegasus,
Many forests in Forest Hill these days?
If Yan Yean falls and I see no reason for it too fall but if it does then I would image that we will be seeing a repeat of the SA election where big swings happened in seats with big margins whilst the marginals will generally be held.
This goes well for the ALP hanging on with about 46-48 seats.
mb
Yan Yean won’t fall.
Hi PBers. Hope you’re not killing eachother too much. I haven’t really been following the Vic election much, so my very lightly informed and apathetic prediction for Saturday’s poll is Labor to win, with 49 seats.
You may continue calling each other hacks and extremists now.
GG – If we use the SA election as a prior example of what happens when the Govenrment is building a Train line then you are correct.
In the SA election there were two marginals that were expected to fall to the Liberals but both swang to the ALP and the reason why was the various infrastructure projects in those seats.
GG,
[Greens vote under seige as Sex Party competes for Dope Vote.]
What do you think about Labor’s group voting ticket in Northern Metro? First party to receive Labor’s preferences is the Sex Party followed by the Greens? 😉
http://www.vec.vic.gov.au/current/files/2010NorthernMetropolitanRegionTickets.PDF#page=10
pegasus,
How are the Forests in Forest Hill. Did you cut them all down when you moved there?
TSOP at 273, re your last line – yes the recent Victorian threads have not shown PB at its best.
Internal ALP polling shows Bendigo East GONE.Primary vote down to 40%.
About as much credibility as the posts of GJoffa.
GG,
In case you want to be better informed about the issue of logging of native forests in water catchments 😉
[Half the Local Government councils across metropolitan Melbourne have now taken a stand against continued logging of biodiverse native forests in the city’s water supply catchments. This logging is reducing water supply to Melbourne.
15 councils representing almost 1.7 million people , have passed resolutions calling on the Victorian State Government to ban logging in the Melbourne catchments.
These councils are Yarra Ranges, Bayside City, Moreland City, City of Port Phillip, Whitehorse City, Knox City, Yarra City, City of Kingston, Melbourne City , Maroondah City, City of Boroondara, Nillumbik Shire, Frankston City , City of Maribyrnong and City of Moonee Valley.
On Friday 17 October member councils of the Municipal Association of Victoria (MAV) passed a ‘no logging in Melbourne’s catchments’ motion.]
http://melbournecatchments.org/
Barking I suspect Labor’s primary to collapse across the state.
Indies, Greens and Libs will increase substantially IMHO.
Glen
you predicted hung parliament in federal election?
Glen, I reckon it’s a possibility too IMHO. There are so many electorate-specific issues that have been simmering away and I think voters want to vent their angst.
FWIW anecdotally (not much, I know), during my pre-poll shifts in Forest Hill I have observed voters refusing the Labor HTV but taking the Liberals and Greens HTVs.
pegasus,
No logging in Forest Hill these days?
But, I’m sure the local “rubbidy” has a historical pictures of them before the Greens advocates moved in.
“Don’t it always seem to go, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.
They paved Forest Hill.
Pegasus looks for a parking lot”.
GG
Have you made your predictions for result?
victoria,
Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I’ll luv yahs tomorrow.
Tomorrow is a brand new day.
I think Glen is correct but the problem for the Liberals is where will it occur.
I expect the Greens will see a large increase close, similar to the 6% increase they achieved in the federal election and I think we will see big swings in safe seats.
The Age might be correct in saying this result might be similar to the 99 result except I am of the view that the Liberals have not done the ground work that we saw Brack and his team do in the lead up therefore a large slight of that swing will flow to the Greens and this will soften the swing against the Government.
GG
Are you going to wait for the latest polls?
victoria,
I’m pretty confident that Labor will do well. But, Statewide I don’t think any of the polls have been decisive or helpful.
However, there seems to be a drift back to the Government atm.
You’re out at Diamond Creek? How’s Danielle travelling
GG,
I don’t live in the suburb of Forest Hill. I volunteer at one of the local indigenous plant nurseries and am active in revegetating local bushland reserves.
GG
No. My member is Colin Brooks.
Vex news has reported the phoenix like return of the DLP to Australian politics, while other media, including many on pollbludgers do their best to exclude the DLP from any publicity or discussion on this election and possible seats won.
The DLP have an excellent chance of winning 2 seats, and possibly 3/4 in the Upper House.
VEXNEWS 2010© | BLASTING FROM THE PAST: Feisty DLP presents with 67 candidates in Victorian poll
http://www.vexnews.com
victoria,
You are one of the lucky ones like me.
ockerguy,
Get on board. They are not excluded. It is just that no one plays. Don’t expect a free ride though.
I have been predicting a 2 or 3 seat Brumby majority but Baillieu could squeak it if things go his way…
Anything could happen 😀
GG
yes, very safe State Labor seat. Can’t see it changing too much. Federally, the seat is even safer in the hands of Harry Jenkins.
Pegasus,
You seem to want every one to appreciate your worthiness to exist.
You’ve bleated on for months that you live in Forest Hill.
Victoria,
Harry’s the same in real life as he is Parliament. Lovely guy.
I was predicting a narrow Labor majority but my usual pre poll pessimism has set in and by tomorrow I’ll be convinced the Libs are going to win. I’m so predictable 😆
GG
Yes, he recently attended opening ceremonies on completed BER projects. Very personable fellow.
madcyril
that is exactly my position. I think Labor are going to win with a narrow majority. Then I start thinking that what happened to Kennett in 99 will happen to Brumby on Saturday.