Unpredictable Roy Morgan has unloaded two very different sets of poll results: one using its usual face-to-face methodology, but based on one week’s sample rather than the recently more usual two, and the other a phone poll in which respondents were also asked about leadership preference, contrary to normal Morgan practice. The face-to-face poll is from 999 respondents, and shows Labor’s lead narrowing from 60-40 to 58-42. Labor’s primary vote is down 0.5 per cent to 49.5 per cent, while the Coalition is up a quite healthy 3.5 per cent to a still not-healthy 37.5 per cent. The Greens are down a point to 8 per cent.
However, the phone poll has Labor’s two-party lead at a more modest 54.5-45.5, from primary votes of 45 per cent Labor, 40.5 per cent Coalition and 7.5 per cent Greens. At present, a dedicated page for the phone poll result tells us only that Kevin Rudd leads Malcolm Turnbull as preferred prime minister 60.5 per cent to 26.5 per cent; that Rudd’s approval rating is 57.5 per cent; and that Turnbull’s approval rating is 43 per cent. Perhaps it will be fleshed out with more information at a later time.
Two other pieces of news:
• It seems Andrew Wilkie will run as an independent candidate for Denison at next year’s Tasmanian state election. Wilkie is the former Office of National Assessments analyst who quit over the Howard government’s actions before the Iraq war, and subsequently ran as a Greens candidate against John Howard in Bennelong in 2004 and as Bob Brown’s Tasmanian Senate running mate in 2007.
• A beleagured British Labour Party is considering sweeping electoral reforms, including an elected upper house. House of Commons reforms might presumably include some kind of preferential voting, which Britain’s three-plus party system badly needs, or more radically proportional representation, with which Britons have become familiar through elections for the Scottish and Welsh parliaments, its members of European Parliament, and local government.
[Rudd/Turnbull is 93/1. ]
I wonder if that’s because, like Hewson, Turnbull comes across as a banker who shoe horned his way into parliament?
The Murray Darling Basin Authority is kicking off a fish awareness week on 25 May.
http://www.mdba.gov.au/
I hope that it works for them. The fish illustration they have chosen is of an eel (not enough to tell whether short-finned or long-finned).
There are no naturally occurring eels in the Murray Darling Basin. My choice would have been (1) Murray Cod.
Or, if you want to depict the most common fish in the Basin, (2) European Carp.
Centre
The problem with everyone having the same starting time is that it will favour some countries. CO2 emissions haven’t been slowly increasing.There have been peaks and troughs. We have a peak due to land clearing in 1990 or something like that, and then it drops for a while when land clearing stops.
[Brough still in the news ]
Anyone know what he is actually doing for a crust?
[Rudd/Turnbull is 93/1.
I wonder if that’s because, like Hewson, Turnbull comes across as a banker who shoe horned his way into parliament?]
I like Malcolm and feel that in another ten or so years he would be good as a junior shadow
Ooops
I forgot he is currently the opp leader, I thought that was Jovial Joe
🙂
[Anyone know what he is actually doing for a crust?]
President of the Queensland division of the Liberal Party of Australia. 😀
OK, so we know what he is doing for the Krusties. What is he doing for a feed?
[What is he doing for a feed?]
He has pitched a sequel to Family Feud to Channel 7, that features a battle between the Liberal and National factions of the LNP to see which team can come up with the most coherent policies that reflect the views of the majority of Queenslanders.
It appears to me there is an unholy alliance happening here at PB and elsewhere between the Greens and Liberals.
Just like the unholy alliance between the Nazi and the Soviet Union in 1939 as shown by the excellent doco on SBS right now. In particular the carving of Poland.
[He has pitched a sequel to Family Feud to Channel 7,]
😀 him as brother doing the gig tag team?
Finns
Now, if only Labor could get real about global warming Poland could be saved.
Finnigans,
You won’t see me participating in said alliance, if in fact it is happening. I might as well be a fence sitter for as far left in Labor as I am so I feel qualified to comment on a “Greens” alliance. As I’ve noted on Possum’s blog earlier today, I put Libs dead last behind everyone and I mean everyone. If there was a ‘legalize cocaine party’ it would go ahead of the Libs in preferences 😀
Finns
[It appears to me there is an unholy alliance happening here at PB and elsewhere between the Greens and Liberals.]
Are you sure that Eight Women Tea doesn’t contain psychotropic drugs?
Boy, some of you lot have taken that Green by-election win in Fremantle badly.
Diogs,
That is totally unfair.
But, what have the Greens done for Fremantle lately.
The aqueduct?
Next week, the unholy alliance between the British and the Soviet Union.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as long as my enemy does not want to be my friend before the enemy of my enemy
😀
Diog, the “Eight Women Tea” is a GREENS tea 😆
GG
How should I know what the Greens have done in Fremantle and, more to the point, why would I care? It was just a silly by-election in state politics in another state which was totally skewed by the Libs not standing.
There’s been more complaining, wailing and gnashing of teeth about the Fremantle by-election result than when Labor lost the whole bloody State.
[The aqueduct?]
and the roads…
219,
John Butler (started his career busking on the streets of Fremantle) 😀
BH
A draw! We don’t have to come to fisticuffs now 😉
That useless ref robbed us of a final shot at field goal though grrrr
[ The aqueduct?
and the roads…]
and saved the South Beach…
(PS I had to look that one up)
Diogs surely that is knit picking that some countries would be slightly more or less better off if a particular decade is used as a starting point. We can’t even agree in Australia. Labor says 2000, the Greens say 1990.
GG
It’s worse than I thought!!! According to Adele Carle;
[Local communities are literally under siege and they are fed up. This is a product of the ‘safe Labor seat’ syndrome.]
OMG!! They are LITERALLY under siege in Fremantle. We’re being invaded. I hope the Greens can protect our national security in Fremantle because Labor seems to have surrendered part of our country without a peep!
Finns
My favourite is white tea. Dunno what Party that makes me but it’s got jasmine in it so it’s going to be wimpy.
“and saved the South Beach…”
Since when?? Annoys me all the ho-ha that went on about that. In the end the old foundry site was cleared in 3-4 days, no contamination off-site, no issue.
Vera and BH, it was a draw because you said the same number of Mary Magdelan’s. LOL.
That ref blew the last 9 seconds of the game. He should be sacked for next week.
Centre
Damn useless ref, as if gang rapes and dope taking aren’t bad enough!
William said we cant swear otherwise the air would be blue in here right now 😉
imacca
[“and saved the South Beach…”
Since when??]
Probably just after they repelled the siege. It came from the same website.
Centre
It can make quite a big difference. I think there was a 5% drop after that peak year. Given that the target was only a 5% drop by 2020, you could achieve your whole reduction policy by just cherry-picking the year (BTW Labor didn’t do that. They chose a fairly normal year).
[It appears to me there is an unholy alliance happening here at PB and elsewhere between the Greens and Liberals.]
Haven’t seen any example of Greens agreeing with Liberals here. Quite a few topics where Liberal and Labor people are in furious agreement though.
And quite a few where Labor people and Labor people have been in furious disagreement, and a few where Greens have agreed with Labor, and some where….
Enough with the labelling already!! I’m getting tired of my sincere, honest opinion being interpreted as if I’m getting missives from Head Office (which I wouldn’t follow, even if I did receive them).
Diogs I think it’s all silly. The planet must reduce emissions by x for 2020 and y for 2050. Each country should reduce their emissions by the same proportion to achieve those targets.
The mining boom has positioned Australia strongly over the last decade and I would be against us making more cuts in proportion to others where those cuts would basically make no difference anyway.
I understand the economic potential of CC. But it’s the initial transitional period to an ETS that could have consequences to our economy.
[Quite a few topics where Liberal and Labor people are in furious agreement though.]
There isn’t that many. Nuclear power? Some aspects of border protection? And that is only SOME people from those sides, not all of them.
We are more like the U.S. Senate than the Australian House of Representatives when it comes to discipline.
jeez. good thing that CO2 doesn’t turn into balloons!
Centre
[Each country should reduce their emissions by the same proportion to achieve those targets.]
Why should Australia be allowed to continue to emit 10 times as much CO2 per person than Thailand? Why should China/India/Africa be forced to cut their emissions by as much as the developed countries that caused the problem?
More importantly, will Stephen Long summon up the courage tonight to ask Leigh Sayle for a date?
Tonight is the night!!!!
I’ll ask her for him Finns 👿
All very well, Diog, but I’d be interested to know how many changes you’d have to make to your lifestyle (of which I admit I know nothing, so am not making judgements) in order to ensure that you were responsible for the same level of emissions as a person from Thailand?
How many of these would you be prepared to make?
I could almost manage it. We grow a few vegies; I could grow more. We could replace the horses with crops (I’m beginning to feel that they’re an indulgence, anyway). We would have to find a way to not drive (OK, keep the horses, have them retrained!). Could possibly use solar to power the house and computer.
As it is, we live in a house which requires NO artificial cooling, only requires heating half a dozen nights of the year, the cars are on LPG, we dress exclusively at the local op shop.
I’m wondering what sacrifices other PBs would need to make to their current lifestyles to reduce their carbon reliance to developing country levels.
If none of us are prepared to do it personally, then no politician is going to put in the legistlation to do it for us.
Diogs Australia is Australia and Thailand is Thailand. My personal view is that population is irrelevant. This country will contribute if your country contributes. The population of a country should not be a factor.
China/India/Africa should cut their emissions by as much BECAUSE while we were emitting nobody was aware of the scientific evidence. Surely we can’t be blamed for what we did not know in the past. But as the consequences of CC have come to light, we all should contribute proportionately. Hell, we never prevented those countries from developing themselves.
ETS wont amount to a hill of beans, like most things technology will make the issue redundant.
Of course some weak minded people will be comforted by a bunch of bureacrats and politicians flying first class and sleeping five star weighing these important issues on our behalf in Copenhagen. There may even be a joint communique and a joint photo with Prince Frederik and our Mary.
[Quite a few topics where Liberal and Labor people are in furious agreement though.
There isn’t that many. Nuclear power?]
You are really hanging for an argument about nuclear, aren’t you??
[ETS wont amount to a hill of beans, like most things technology will make the issue redundant.]
But how will the ETS make these new technologies redundant?
If you understood the ETS, you would realise that the ETS will motivate investment in these technologies that you speak of so they are brought to market faster.
[You are really hanging for an argument about nuclear, aren’t you??]
Not really. If you want to do something about climate change, you’d support nuclear power as a bringing technology between what we currently have that works, and the future technologies that haven’t yet been invented that ESJ referred to above.
The only topics the Labor and Liberal types have been in complete agreement about recently have been the dismal performance of MT and Hockey.
I hope the Greenies aren’t going to distance themselves from that love in!
[The only topics the Labor and Liberal types have been in complete agreement about recently have been the dismal performance of MT and Hockey.
I hope the Greenies aren’t going to distance themselves from that love in!]
What about us non-aligned folk? Can we laugh at Hockey too?
Yo ho ho
OK, but don’t take too many liberties.
You don’t need a reason to laugh at Hockey 😀
Personally i’m a fan of classic ‘workchoices’ Hockey.
Although, the new ‘debt will eat your children’ is worth a spin too.
I thought Hockey had gone into partnership with GP when I saw (Prime Elephant of Australia) alongside his name
And with those, Yo ho ho, you have pretty much exhausted the ‘great Hockey moments of our time’ list….
what about the time he put the shrek ears on? he was showing how jovial and friendly he was. brilliant politics.