First up, developments ahead of the Dunkley by-election, which Rachel Baxendale of The Australian reported yesterday was “unlikely to be held before late February”:
• A Liberal preselection ballot scheduled for January 14 is expected to include Frankston mayor Nathan Conroy; Donna Hope, who as Donna Bauer held the state seat of Carrum from 2010 to 2014 and is now an electorate officer to Chris Crewther, former federal member for Dunkley and now state member for Mornington; Bec Buchanan, another staffer to Crewther and the party’s state candidate for Carrum in 2022; and Sorrento real estate agent David Burgess, who was on the party’s Legislative Council ticket for Eastern Victoria in 2022.
• Paul Sakkal of The Age today reports the widower of the late Labor member Peta Murphy, Rod Glover, is being encouraged to seek preselection by “senior Labor figures”. The report describes Glover as a “respected former staffer to Kevin Rudd, university professor and public policy expert”. Also mentioned in Rachel Baxendale’s report were Madison Child, an “international relations and public policy graduate in her mid twenties who grew up in Frankston”, and has lately worked as an electorate officer to Murphy; Georgia Fowler, a local nurse who ran in Mornington at the November 2022 state election; and Joshua Sinclair, chief executive of the Committee for Frankston and Mornington Peninsula.
Other preselection news:
• Tim Wilson has confirmed he will seek Liberal preselection to recover the Melbourne seat of Goldstein following his defeat at the hands of teal independent Zoe Daniel in 2022. Paul Sakkal of The Age reports he is “unlikely to face a challenger”.
• Lydia Lynch of The Australian today reports nominations for Liberal National Party preselection will close on January 15 in the inner Brisbane seat of Ryan, which the party lost to Elizabeth Watson-Brown of the Greens in 2022, and the Gold Coast seat of McPherson, which will be vacated with the retirement of Karen Andrews. The front-runner in the former case is said to be Maggie Forrest, barrister and the party’s honorary legal adviser. In addition to the previously identified Ben Naday, Leon Rebello and David Stevens in McPherson (the first two being rated the front-runners) is Adam Fitzgibbons, head of public affairs at Coles. Party insiders are said to be “increasingly concerned” about the emergence of a “McPherson Matters” group that is preparing a teal independent bid for the seat.
• Lily McCaffrey of the Herald-Sun reports Emanuele Cicchiello, deputy principal Lighthouse Christian College deputy principal, has been preselected as Liberal candidate for Aston, the Melbourne seat that was lost to the party in a historic by-election result on April 1. Cicchiello ran unsuccessfully in Bruce in 2013 and has made numerous other bids for preselection.
• Rochelle Pattison, chair of Transgender Victoria and director of corporate finance firm Chimaera Capital, has nominated for Liberal preselection in Kooyong, joining an existing field consisting of Amelia Hamer, Susan Morris and Michael Flynn.
• The New South Wales Liberal Party website records two unheralded federal election candidates in Sam Kayal, a local accountant who will again run in Werriwa following an unsuccessful bid in 2022, and Katie Mullens, conservative-aligned solicitor at Barrak Lawyers who ran for the state seat of Parramatta in March and has now been preselected for the federal seat of the same name.
Polling news:
• The Courier-Mail sought to read the temperature of Queensland politics post-Annastacia Palaszczuk without breaking the budget by commissioning a uComms robopoll, crediting the Liberal National Party opposition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The only detail provided on primary votes was that the LNP was on 36.2% and Labor 34.4% – no indication was provided as to whether this was exclusive of the uncommitted, which is often not the case withuComms. Steven Miles was viewed positively by 42.7% and negatively by 27.6%, with only the positive rating of 37.8% provided for David Crisafulli. A forced response question on preferred premier had Crisafulli leading Miles by 52.2-47.8. True to the Courier-Mail style guide, the report on this unremarkable set of numbers included the words “startling”, “explosive”, “whopping” and “stunning”. The initial report on Tuesday was accompanied by a hook to a follow-up that promised to tell “who Queenslanders really wanted as Annastacia Palaszczuk’s replacement”. The answer was revealed the next day to be Steven Miles, favoured by 37.8% over Shannon Fentiman on 35.0% and Cameron Dick on 27.1%. The poll was conducted December 21 and 22 from a sample of 1911.
• RedBridge Group has a poll of Victorian state voting intention showing Labor leading 55.9-44.1, little different to the 55.0-45.0 result at the November 2022 election. The primary votes are Labor 37% (36.7% at the election), Coalition 36% (34.5%) and Greens 13% (11.5%). Extensive further results include leadership ratings inclusive of “neither approve nor disapprove” option that find Jacinta Allan viewed positively by 24%, negatively by 30% and neutrally by 32%, John Pesutto at 16% positive, 36% neutral and 29% negative, and Greens leader Samantha Ratnam at 14% positive, 29% neutral and 35% negative. The poll was conducted December 2 to 12 from a sample of 2026.
• Nine Newspapers published results from Resolve Strategic on Thursday on whether various politicians were viewed positively, neutrally, negatively or not at all, which it had held back from its last national poll nearly a month ago. Whereas a similar recent exercise by Roy Morgan simply invited respondents to identify politicians they did and didn’t trust, this one took the to-my-mind more useful approach of presenting respondents with a set list of forty names. In the federal sphere, the five most positively rated were Penny Wong (net 14%, meaning the difference between her positive and negative results), Jacqui Lambie (10%), Jacinta Price (6%), David Pocock (5%) and Tanya Plibersek (3%). The lowest were Scott Morrison (minus 35%), Lidia Thorpe (minus 29%, a particularly remarkable result given what was presumably modest name recognition), Barnaby Joyce (minus 27%), Pauline Hanson (minus 25%) and, interestingly, Bob Katter (minus 15%). Of state leaders, Chris Minns (plus 14%) and David Crisafulli (plus 9%) did notably well, and John Pesutto (minus 7%) and the since-departed Annastacia Palaszczuk (minus 17%) notably poorly. The poll was conducted November 29 to December 3 from a sample of 1605.
A particularly good trigger point when dealing with older Jehovah’s Witnesses “visitors” is to mention radio station 2HD in Newy.
(It was owned by the JWs in the early 40s but after Newy was shelled by a Japanese sub there were accusations that 2HD had sent the patrolling subs coded messages through the music played at different times. The Curtin Government removed its license and awarded it to…..wait for it…..the NSW Labour Council and NSW branch of the ALP. Good thing they don’t vote.)
meher:
The Mormon rejection of Trump might have something to do with their political leader Mitt Romney being anti Trump.
It also might be to do with generational change as this article posits.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/03/republican-party-mormon-church-decline/
meher babasays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 6:46 pm
But the subject of the Donald came up and his take is that Trump is possibly the Beast 666 or the Antichrist or some such, and he reckons that a lot of evangelicals around the world feel the same way. But this makes those who are in the US more inclined to vote for him than not, because they are craving the end times, rapture and what have you.
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They obviously only read the bits of Revelations they wanted to. It is pretty clear what happens to those that support the Antichrist. It certainly wasn’t getting to participate in the rapture.
Quote: Revelations 14: 9-11
“9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” “
I think the Mormon rejection of Trump is them simply having some principles (as strange as they may be)
@nath:
“The claim that Fred Trump built ‘lower class’ housing is probably an attempt to link him to slum landlordism and repeated everywhere, but the truth is that he predominantly built middle class housing.”
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Fred Trump, once arrested for attending a KKK meeting would go on to run a racist housing policy with his tenancies in Brookland, and elsewhere, refusing to let apartments to black Americans. Woodie Guthrie wrote a song about that in the 1950s.
Fred’s father changed the family name from Drumpf when he skipped out of the law in his native Germany and hightailed it to the new world where he ran brothels and bars in the Klondike …
If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead
Yep. A ‘Make America Great Again’ red cap fits the bill. It doesn’t say that the mark has to be in indelible ink directly on their forehead, after all.
Andrew Earlwood
THis link is to an Australian submarine blogger’s views of the likely quid quo pro for AUKUS, which you may find interesting.
https://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2024/01/no-ssns-for-australia-without-pledge-of.html
He also has a translation of some South Korean articles on intentions of the SK navy which are most interesting if Australia ever needs a plan B if Trump wins. SK’s indigenous shipbuilding and nuclear industries would make them a very capable partner if Australia hd to change track. IF it was up to me this would be plan A.
https://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2024/01/longterm-sk-interest-in-barracudas-and.html
That being said, with contracts now let to upgrade the ASC shipyard for SSNs, I have to hope Plan A works, or w are wasting a fair bit of money.
meher baba,
My son, in America natch, combines Astrology with Divination and has been a student of the Bible whilst not being overtly religious.
I honestly think the world has lost its mind since the internet atomised our understanding of the world and things like this and your pastor distant relative are the consequence. People just pick and choose the bits they want to believe and run with that.
Cat
Surely the algorithms platforms like facebook run to link up people with similar interests, or market content to them, means that the problems you identify can be sped up even without willing choosing by the vulnerable. Social media manipulation feeds them a diet of material that matches their preferences, reinforcing them.
Rex, Bowen is minister for climate change, his decisions are approved by Cabinet. Jaysus
Nath, Fubar seems highly emotionally invested in the so-called Barossa field by the Tiwi islands. Fine whine!
People who believe in the money religion
Lars, credit where it is due. Ever since you correctly (and repeatedly) warned that Keneally was in strife against Dai Le in the leadup to May 2022, I’ve decided not to make any bets against you on matters pertaining to Australian political punditry. If I were the Federal Labor Government I’d take extra care to look after the good citizens of eastern Lake Macquarie.
Socrates @ #2409 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 7:29 pm
Yep. By design. Self-selecting combined with the algorithms is a dangerous combination. And everywhere you go you see people with their heads stuck in their phones. A world away from reality. Imbibing and osmosing their own reality.
I heard an interesting story relayed to me by my friend the other day about the local facebook group. Her son is Autistic and he loves to ride his pushbike at night and carry a torch with him for reasons best known to him. Anyway, there have been a few break-ins over the holiday period. So, of course, some busybody who had seen him riding around at night on his bike with his torch put it up on facebook that he was the one who had been breaking into people’s homes. Of course everyone’s confirmation bias against the young man who was different than them created a pile on and lit a fire under the assumption, that my friend had to spend the next week hosing down repeatedly.
So, someone going 2+2=5 was all it took. And people have become so conditioned to believing anyone who positively asserts something on facebook, or just about any form of social media, that the truth can’t even get its pants on anymore before the lie has spread like wildfire around the internet. The truth is left in a state of naked embarrassment. Metaphorically, as was my friend. Because people also find it very hard to abandon their beliefs once they have latched onto them.
C@tmomma @ Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 7:45 pm:
[Socrates:] “Surely the algorithms platforms like facebook run to link up people with similar interests, or market content to them, means that the problems you identify can be sped up even without willing choosing by the vulnerable. Social media manipulation feeds them a diet of material that matches their preferences, reinforcing them.”
[C@tmomma:] “Yep. By design. Self-selecting combined with the algorithms is a dangerous combination. And everywhere you go you see people with their heads stuck in their phones. A world away from reality. Imbibing and osmosing their own reality.”
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C@t & Soc, I wonder if the antidote is to fight fire with fire: flood the zone with positive affirmations of truthful messages which amplify good principle and policy. I don’t know if that’s the answer to more personally directed character assassination, though.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-07/wet-el-nino-weather-pattern-explained-bureau-of-meteorology/103289232
Very good article. Some notable pieces.
“So when we know it’s going to be an El Niño it changes that probability so the segment for dry conditions on that chocolate wheel is much larger, and the wet is smaller”
The rabid greenies wont like this one.
“A recent study published in the scientific journal Hydrology and Earth System Sciences into the influences of climate change on extreme rainfall found for each degree of global warming, an eight to 15 per cent increase of extreme rain should be accounted for.
“Since pre-industrial times, the planet is 1C warmer on average.”
Socrates @ #2409 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 7:29 pm
My TikTok fyp has Neil the Seal on high rotation, and frankly I’m okay with that.
We are in dire straits.
SummerNats FFS.
Global warming and folks celebrate the roar of V8s and the smoke of tyres doing burnouts. Put simply, with all we know is happening around us with climate change , that people could still find enjoyment in such things is incomprehensible to me.
SUVs and twin cab utes.
(Guardian 29/3/23)
Surging SUV ownership means Australians are needlessly spending an extra $13bn a year to fuel their cars, and the trend is sending transport emissions into overdrive at the same time similar nations are reducing them.
Analysis from the Australia Institute has found that the recent uptake in SUVs in Australia has led to the nation’s vehicle fleet now being 24% less efficient than the UK’s, a similarly developed right-hand-drive country.
WTF!!!
Opening Parliament with the Lords Prayer
Aren’t we meant to be a secular society with a separation of church and state? I naively, in my teens assumed these religious fantasies would be much deminished by the time I was of retirement age.
Charities
If an enlightened government were doing their job correctly there should not be a need for charities other than to allow generous folk to feel good when they donate. Extreme I know but they should not be necessary in a first world country.
Poor bugger my species.
C@t & Soc, I wonder if the antidote is to fight fire with fire: flood the zone with positive affirmations of truthful messages which amplify good principle and policy. I don’t know if that’s the answer to more personally directed character assassination, though.
Macarthur,
As was drily observed on a podcast I listened to recently, the people that are needed to spread those positive messages just aren’t as zealous and committed to doing so as the Disinfo and Alternative Facts people.
timbo,
And guess who squeals like stuck pigs about the Cost of Living? The people driving those monster trucks.
fess: “My TikTok fyp has Neil the Seal on high rotation, and frankly I’m okay with that.”
Personally, I find it hard to forgive Neil the Seal for blocking the entrance to the public toilets at Kingston Beach about a year ago when I was caught short while going for a walk. He is rather loveable though.
timbo
“SUVs and twin cab utes.
(Guardian 29/3/23)
Surging SUV ownership means Australians are needlessly spending an extra $13bn a year to fuel their cars, and the trend is sending transport emissions into overdrive at the same time similar nations are reducing them.
Analysis from the Australia Institute has found that the recent uptake in SUVs in Australia has led to the nation’s vehicle fleet now being 24% less efficient than the UK’s, a similarly developed right-hand-drive country.
WTF!!!”
THis stupid trend is also starting to have an adverse impact on our road safety statistics. Bigger vehicles means bigger impact forces. Assuming you are safer in a bigger vehicle in a collision is at best a zero sum game. If everyone buys a HiLux, everyone is worse off.
People who think it is clever to follow US trends overlook the fact that the average fatal crash rate in USA (per driver or per km travelled) is 50% higher than Australia.
FUBAR says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 7:04 pm
nath
Do you know how to use an internet search engine?
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This is your story and the link you posted previously had no mention of it.
I’m not sure what point you are making because it seems you want every claim to indigenous cultural heritage to be dismissed out of hand because the truth claims of religion are bogus.
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C@tmommasays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 7:19 pm
If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead
Yep. A ‘Make America Great Again’ red cap fits the bill. It doesn’t say that the mark has to be in indelible ink directly on their forehead, after all.
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C@tmomma
Three years of Trump’s lies about the Jan. 6 insurrection have taken their toll
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/5/2215198/-Three-years-of-Trump-s-lies-about-the-Jan-6-insurrection-have-taken-their-toll?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_7&pm_medium=web
“A new poll conducted by The Washington Post and the University of Maryland was released on Jan. 2, and the results are as distasteful as the Trumps’ White House decorating style. It’s not just about the percentage of people who believe Trump’s lies, it’s about the fact that those numbers are going up, in particular among Republicans.
The partisan divide is clear, as The Washington Post explained: “Republicans are more sympathetic to those who stormed the U.S. Capitol and more likely to absolve Donald Trump of responsibility for the attack than they were in 2021.” The image below shows that the percentage of Republicans holding Trump responsible has fallen from an already low 27% to a truly pathetic 14%. The percentages among independents and Democrats, by comparison, remained essentially the same.
Additionally, “Republicans are showing increased loyalty to the former president as he campaigns for reelection and fights criminal charges over his attempt to stay in power after losing in 2020. They are now less likely to believe that Jan. 6 participants were ‘mostly violent,’ less likely to believe Trump bears responsibility for the attack, and are slightly less likely to view Joe Biden’s election as legitimate than they were in a December 2021 Post-UMD survey.” This next image shows that the percentage of Republicans who see the people who stormed the Capitol three years ago as “mostly violent” fell from 26% to 18%, while, once again, the percentages barely moved among independents and Democrats.
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Likewise, 11% fewer Republicans (and 7% fewer independents) than two years ago now believe that the punishments meted out to the insurrectionists—the people who violently disrupted the peaceful transition of power from a president of one party to another that has defined our democracy since 1800—were either fair or too lenient. In other words, more Republicans wanted to let these criminals off with a lighter sentence, or no punishment at all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/02/jan-6-poll-post-trump/
Thanks for the link to that submarine blogger, Socrates.
I am horrified by the truth of this comment; whereas the JingoC@t sees this as a great feature of OHFUCKUS.
“Marles and Albanese make spurious claims about Australian freedom-of-choice sovereignty. However these new Australian SSN capabilities will be laser focused on supporting the US Alliance – specifically China containment, Taiwan defence, Middle Eastern stability, oil/gas shipping lane protection as well as anti-Russian Pacific Fleet roles. Given SSN scarcity in the US Navy, unless Australia promises this support the US will not supply Virginias to Australia.”
meher baba @ #2419 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 8:05 pm
LOL!
I love him and can’t get enough of his antics. I’m only sorry that when we were in Tassie last week that I didn’t get the chance to swing by Dunalley to see him in the flesh.
timbo says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 8:00 pm
We are in dire straits.
SummerNats FFS.
Global warming and folks celebrate the roar of V8s and the smoke of tyres doing burnouts. Put simply, with all we know is happening around us with climate change , that people could still find enjoyment in such things is incomprehensible to me.
SUVs and twin cab utes.
(Guardian 29/3/23)
Surging SUV ownership means Australians are needlessly spending an extra $13bn a year to fuel their cars, and the trend is sending transport emissions into overdrive at the same time similar nations are reducing them.
Analysis from the Australia Institute has found that the recent uptake in SUVs in Australia has led to the nation’s vehicle fleet now being 24% less efficient than the UK’s, a similarly developed right-hand-drive country.
WTF!!!
Opening Parliament with the Lords Prayer
Aren’t we meant to be a secular society with a separation of church and state? I naively, in my teens assumed these religious fantasies would be much deminished by the time I was of retirement age.
Charities
If an enlightened government were doing their job correctly there should not be a need for charities other than to allow generous folk to feel good when they donate. Extreme I know but they should not be necessary in a first world country.
Poor bugger my species.
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Everything you have written here is correct.
ICE car use indicates many Australians can fund this lifestyle even with high petrol/diesel prices. So no need to change, especially with many denying global warming.
I think it is only the US where church and state are considered separate. The big Federal funding of religious schools, encourages parents of young children to send them to these schools with their impressive buildings and classrooms. They look more cared for than public schools.
Young children are more susceptible to embrace religion, especially if there is some fear mongering ( won’t get into heaven) in religious instruction.
Maybe better staffing too. And students with bad behaviour can be expelled to a public school. Making more discipline problems for teachers and students in public schools.
The public schools have to educate everyone.
And the media often rubbishes the ‘woke’ teachers at public schools. And what is taught there. Must influence some parents.
In rich Australia should be no need for the number of charities, which are necessary to give support to the many children, 1 in 6 from Smith family figures needing help. As well as those escaping domestic violence, adults and children living in poverty or/and homeless.
People needing Foodbanks grew steadily from 2012, when PM Gillard cut benefits to single parents when their youngest child reached 8. Fact.
And still growing.
But neither Labor or LNP is interested in these people. The $8 billion paid off the Morrison government debt over the last 12 months couid have been used to help these people. But governments prefer charities to do their work for them.
And of course religious institutions pay no tax. When asked about this as LOTO Bill Shorten wouldn’t consider taxing them. They do a lot of good work he said. Labor can wash their hands of these low income adults and children.
I think the original design of facebook probably did have algorithms that sought to link like minded people, a next step from places you’ve been and people you know +1 algorithms, but I’m not sure how long that lasted, they just want to give you anything to keep your eyes on their app these days, and just showing you people like you is unlikely to do that for long. There is nothing more boring than a political discussion with people who agree with you on everything.
‘Irene says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 8:57 pm
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But neither Labor or LNP is interested in these people.
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half lie.
Boerwar says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:07 pm
Labor is not interested in low income children and adults. Fact. Take your blinkers off.
All charities that help adults and children in poverty in 2022 to now are seeing many more people in need. Regularly reported.
And Morrison’s increase to Jobseeker during the pandemic helped many. Be a good idea if Labor increased it by the same amount. Now.
nathsays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 8:13 pm
FUBAR says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 7:04 pm
nath
Do you know how to use an internet search engine?
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This is your story and the link you posted previously had no mention of it.
I’m not sure what point you are making because it seems you want every claim to indigenous cultural heritage to be dismissed out of hand because the truth claims of religion are bogus.
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Think of all that prime real estate in the middle of Rome that would then become available.
Socrates and A-E
Britain’s defence boom is built on sand
The UK’s military equipment giants are reliant on just one big customer
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/01/04/uk-defence-stocks-boom-built-on-sand/
“But is there any real reason to expect a major increase in the size of the British defence industry?
Defence spending is distributed on protectionist lines, and the onshore UK industry is heavily dependent on just one customer: the Ministry of Defence.
The MoD hasn’t suddenly got a lot more money than it had before. There are no new revenues on the table.
Yes, BAE Systems in particular says it is having a good year, with plenty of large orders, but there is no sign that it will book greatly more revenue for 2023 than it did in 2022.
It’s also important to remember that BAE has not really been a British company for a long time: of its 93,000 employees, barely a third are in the UK.
Much of the business it is celebrating is being done in the US and elsewhere. Military technology developed in BAE’s walled-off US subsidiaries is specifically not permitted to spread overseas to the rest of the company.
Irenesays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:20 pm
Boerwar says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:07 pm
Labor is not interested in low income children and adults. Fact. Take your blinkers off.
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Next you will be telling us the LNP are. At least that will be good for a laugh.
Irene @ #2428 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 9:20 pm
Bullshit. I am as low income as they come. A Single Mum living in Rented Accommodation on a Disability Pension with my Disabled Son. If it wasn’t for Labor governments, we wouldn’t be.
God it grinds my gears when people like you come onto this blog and just blag Labor for no justifiable reason. Everything you’ve stated as ‘fact’ has been proven to be a falsity so far and I’m pretty sure that if you keep coming here that that will be guaranteed to keep on happening.
You are the epitome of what I was commenting about before. People who just loudly make absolute crap up, but because they are 100% committed to their project, get the attention they so richly do not deserve.
Why do you do it, Irene? What motivates you? I know you won’t answer because that would give the game away, wouldn’t it Irene?
AE, why not try posting one of your learned discourses on AUKUS without crafting it into an attack on C@t for no immediately apparent reason.
I do love having the Australia Institute telling what of my personal expenditure of my own money is “unnecessary”.
C@tmommasays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:41 pm
Irene @ #2428 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 9:20 pm
Boerwar says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:07 pm
Why do you do it, Irene? What motivates you? I know you won’t answer because that would give the game away, wouldn’t it Irene?
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I suspect what motivates Irene is stirring people. Sp technically i guess you and i have just taken her bait. I think the reason Irene stirs people is because people stopped responding to LVT when he stirred people. So real question may in fact be why does LVT stir people. Is he mad at the world for some reason?. Though many would argue he has already had his revenge on the world by giving us the movie “The House That Jack Built”.
Mr Bowe,
Fyi, I have Andrew_Earlwood blocked for the sake of my mental health. And he knows it. So any attack that he makes on me now is purely out of spite and a desire to ‘hit back hard’, as he said he has a ‘right’ to do. Just hearing that he has done it again makes me feel sick.
I finally get what you mean about my own behaviour, too. All I can do is try my best to keep it front of mind, but being imperfect I guess I will fail the test at times. I’m still trying to step away as much as possible too. Thank you for your forebearance.
Andrew Earlwood
IMO the logic of the quote on US intentions for AUKUS is hard to escape. And this is from someone who supports SSNs and the RAN and USN working together.
The second article is more promising. I wasn’t aware that South Korea is so interested in their own SSNs. They could make an excellent local partner for Australian SSNs if Virginias fall through. Or they could be added to AUKUS for a more politically painless solution.
FUBAR @ #2434 Sunday, January 7th, 2024 – 9:46 pm
I don’t like the Coalition telling me that I have to have a Basics Card because I am on a welfare benefit. I can control my own spending very well without it. And, yes, before you pipe up and say they haven’t introduced it for everyone on welfare benefits, I counter that with, not for the want of trying to get it through parliament, and thankfully failing.
FUBARsays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:46 pm
I do love having the Australia Institute telling what of my personal expenditure of my own money is “unnecessary”.
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You keep buying that Victoria’s Secrets Lingerie. It is your money after all.
Actually i’m starting to see why Irene does it, it is kind of fun.
“low income adults”
So who are these “low income adults”, and why?
It is time we started questioning these throw away descriptions and those who resort to such descriptions to promote a narrative (and low income earners do receive support)
As an extension, the volume was down (as usual) on the 7 News tonight as we enjoyed our evening meal
The article was clearly about the road closures and disruptions around the Westgate Bridge – and on comes PooShooter, obviously critical and outraged
Simply, in driving around Melbourne over the recent many months there has been and are signage alerting to road closures (by name) and disruptions due to works commencing on a particular date, so avoid the area if possible because there will be long delays
The start date for works was 3rd January
And on comes PooShooter, who obviously cannot read and comprehend
Relying on the Stokes 7West to use a Liberal Party press release as news (and this does not end with the Stokes network)
The fact that works will see disruptions and delays with a road closure is not news
It has been widely publicised – and the travelling public given warning
The same with road closures for level crossing works and giving a profile to those objecting to the disruptions due to those works (noting all these works conclude with a finished product)
And another 7 article on speed cameras – interviewing the Liberal Party old, grey male demographic complaining
Well, drive within the speed limits and you don’t have a problem with speed cameras – noting where the road tolls are and the trend
But this is media and their agenda – hence their reputation is in the gutter and people looking to other forms of information where there is also manipulation for a purpose including by infiltration as we see on this site (akin to Netflix saying because you watched this you may be interested in that or you seek information on a service or product and you start receiving emails promoting such services or products – delete, delete, delete)
And, going back to the Westgate Bridge, I recently drove to Adelaide for a reunion function, the NatSav taking me onto Punt Road, thru Southbank, across the Westgate Bridge and on to the Western Freeway
There were works everywhere servicing a raft of businesss occupying modern premises – and large
So a dynamic region in growth phase
The road system I would imagine also services residential areas people living in proximity to their employment
The likes of Pooshooter and his media need to get out and about more instead of living in each other’s pockets so an echo chamber
End of rant!!!
FUBARsays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:46 pm
I do love having the Australia Institute telling what of my personal expenditure of my own money is “unnecessary”.
Ah!
That’s because the great algorithm in the sky linked the “rainbow serpent” and your apparent “riffing” and ” bit you on the bum” for questioning another’s ability to “use the search engine”.
So go and stick your underwater pipes somewhere else.
If Morrison had followed the Johnson template of support in the pre vaccine Pandemic period there would be an argument re support for households
Instead Morrison provided to Corporations
And pointed households to their superannuation accruals
For starters
FUBARsays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:46 pm
I do love having the Australia Institute telling what of my personal expenditure of my own money is “unnecessary”.
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Still it is better than having Peter Costello telling you how many children you should have and who owns them: “one [baby] for Mum, one for Dad, and one for the country”
Note: Before PSH or Piped Piper get really riled up by this. I’m pretty sure he only wanted white babies. Even if he didn’t, little Johnny wasn’t going to let him have any other colours i suspect.
Entropysays:
Still it is better than having Peter Costello telling you how many children you should have and who owns them: “one [baby] for Mum, one for Dad, and one for the country”
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Possibly the most interesting thing Costello has ever said. He didn’t really ever go off script.
Note: Before PSH or Piped Piper get really riled up by this. I’m pretty sure he only wanted white babies.
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Now that’s utter shit.
The Albanese Government should pass legislation requiring that pensions and other social welfare benefits be paid in currency, with obvious exceptions for people deemed incapable of managing money by a court. We need to make any future attempt to reintroduce a “basics card” type mechanism as difficult as possible, especially one managed by private interests.
nathsays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 10:35 pm
Note: Before PSH or Piped Piper get really riled up by this. I’m pretty sure he only wanted white babies.
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Now that’s utter shit.
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That’s why it is dangerous to go off script. I don’t think Costello was racist though. John Howard was a totally different matter though.
Ven says:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 1:38 pm
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Socratessays:
Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 1:27 pm
Ven
“ A person might have become atheist for any number of reasons.
But before they became atheists they belonged to or raised as a person belonging to a religion.
So how they behave as atheists is a reflection of how they learnt to behave when they we religiously indoctrinated but on the flipside.”
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Socrates
I think I was not clear.
What I meant was that the atheist views on religion (not view on life) will be a reflection of how they learnt to behave towards their religion before they became atheists”
To the best of my recollections I have never been religious, in the specific sense that I’ve never bought the creation myths nor the concept of a deity or deities either existing or having any interest in me/us.
I was taken to church at the age of 12. I could not believe that anyone could possibly fall for the nonsense that unfolded that morning. I noted the kinds of names that were given to things. There were readings. There were psalms. There were prayers. There were parables. There were lessons. There were hymns.
I took this all to be a kind of ritualised play-acting. There were bent heads, closed eyes, whispers, figures on their knees and with palms pressed together. This was performance, I thought. It was a display of worthiness, a claim for respectability. I took it to be utterly meaningless beyond that. I still have those views.
I have never been gulled into adopting the belief in human sacrifice that is the root tenet of Christianity. It is extraordinary to me that those who profess a belief in that blood-cult – in ritualised, planned and promoted human sacrifice – should set themselves up to judge others and to discriminate against those of whom they disapprove.
Discrimination is not merely about ‘thinking’. It entails actions by one person to the detriment of another. The nature and purpose of discrimination is to degrade, punish, shame, humiliate, reject, exile, injure or otherwise defile a person – even to bring about their death – in order achieve some kind of gratification or advantage. This is supposed to be acceptable because the discriminator subscribes to a fantasy. This is indisputably preposterous.
Trolling Stoogesays:
I have never been gulled into adopting the belief in human sacrifice that is the root tenet of Christianity
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I don’t think human sacrifice is the root tenet of Christianity. I think it is vicarious redemption which Christopher Hitchens nicely wrote about:
“I find something repulsive about the idea of vicarious redemption. I would not throw my numberless sins onto a scapegoat and expect them to pass from me; we rightly sneer at the barbaric societies that practice this unpleasantness in its literal form. There’s no moral value in the vicarious gesture anyway. As Thomas Paine pointed out, you may if you wish take on a another man’s debt, or even to take his place in prison. That would be self-sacrificing. But you may not assume his actual crimes as if they were your own; for one thing you did not commit them and might have died rather than do so; for another this impossible action would rob him of individual responsibility. So the whole apparatus of absolution and forgiveness strikes me as positively immoral, while the concept of revealed truth degrades the concept of free intelligence by purportedly relieving us of the hard task of working out the ethical principles for ourselves.
Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
“who owned them” – you idiot.