Indigenous voice polling: Essential, Newspoll and Redbridge (open thread)

Three polls record mixed signals on the Indigenous Voice from Victoria, and negative ones everywhere else.

Three polling items on the Indigenous Voice have emerged in the past few days, none of which offer encouragement for the yes campaign:

The Guardian reports the fortnightly Essential Research has no leading yes by 47% to 43%, with small-sample breakdowns showing yes trailing in all mainland states but Victoria, where it leads 47-46. No leads 47-41 in New South Wales, 51-40 in Queensland, 48-39 in Western Australia and 48-45 in South Australia. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1150 – its voting intention results should be along later today.

The Australian yesterday had state breakdowns of Indigenous Voice voting intention aggregated from Newspoll from late May through to mid-July, which find yes leading by 45% to 42% in New South Wales and 48% to 42% in South Australia, tied at 44% apiece in Victoria, and trailing by 54% to 39% in Queensland, 52% to 39% in Western Australia and 48% to 43% in Tasmania. The overall national results across the period in question had no leading 46% to 43%, from a sample of 5417. Support was highest among high income earners, young people, those with university degrees, non-English speakers and women.

• A Redbridge Group poll, which has been published in very great detail has no leading 56-44, with leads of 56-44 in New South Wales, 55-45 in Victoria and 63-37 in Queensland. The poll was conducted July 21 to 27 from a sample of 1022.

UPDATE (Essential Research): The primary votes from the Essential Research poll have Labor up two to 33%, the Coalition down two to 30%, the Greens down two to 12% and One Nation up one to 8%, with Labor up two points on the 2PP+ measure to 52%, the Coalition down three to 42% and undecided steady on 6%. However, further findings from the poll find the government performing badly on a range of issues, doing best on international relations with 24% positive, 47% neutral and 29% negative, but floundering on the Indigenous Voice and climate change and doing particularly badly on cost of living (9% positive, 21% average, 70% negative) and housing affordability (8% positive, 25% neutral, 67% negative).

A regular question on the national mood finds a two point decrease for the proposition that Australia is on the “right track” to 32% with wrong track steady on 48%. Fifty per cent believed marijuana should be “regulated and taxed by the government in a similar way to tobacco or alcohol”, with 26% opposed, but results were far less favourable in relation to other illegal drugs.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,858 comments on “Indigenous voice polling: Essential, Newspoll and Redbridge (open thread)”

Comments Page 35 of 38
1 34 35 36 38
  1. LR, When I worked for one in Sydney I was managing a team on a project in the southern highlands. We decided to all stay there during the week for many reasons and I negotiated a good deal with a small family run motel. We became fast friends with the owners. After 3 months they mentioned very politely that head office weren’t paying their invoices and giving all sorts of excuses. I spoke to the Sydney office head accountant who apologised profusely but said that is just how they deal with invoices – especially from peeps they will never deal with again. I explained how difficult a position that put us in and he came through with the love that week. But still, cut throat.

  2. Team Katich @ #1695 Sunday, August 13th, 2023 – 11:14 am

    C@t, friendlies don’t count much in my book. Knockout comp form does.

    England, on paper, should be favourites. Home game helps. Kerr doesn’t seem fully match fit. But Fowlers form is v good and might be improving. Vine is an interesting X factor late.

    I get that, and correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t England on the verge of being knocked out in the Group stage? As were the Matildas without Sam Kerr before the Canada game, but still…

  3. TK 10:16

    Yes I have plenty of stories of large firms not paying subbies; I am almost used to it. This one was unusual for me though in the length of time and excuses offered. I had never had trouble with this firm before.

  4. Nah, England safely through the group stage and then struggled with Nigeria (as did Australia).

    Simon coming on late may also be intriguing.

  5. My favourite was a now disappeared private hospital conglomerate who “paid their accounts on 30 June and 31 December”

  6. Once a team gets through to a semi final in a soccer World Cup (and probably at the quarter final stage in a men’s WC tournament) any one of the remaining teams can win.

    Like all team sports, soccer is a game of momentum, and each of the semi-finalists have that momentum. Form in the earlier rounds of the group stage, or in pre-tournament friendlies, or world rankings means squat. I’d rank each of the semi-finalists real – and equal – chances of winning the whole lot.

    That being said there a few things running in the Matildas favour:

    1. The spine of the unit has been together for the better part of a decade, yet new talent (ie. the likes of Fowler) have been injected into the mix seamlessly. The team has gelled really well in this tournament. Even with Kerr’s absence from the pitch for most of it.

    2. The Matildas have heaps of players with big match experience. Both at the international level and also at the club level: the pressure on Kerr at Chelsea would rival the pressure she faces when playing for Australia, for example.

    3. As a consequence of 1 and 2 above, the Matildas are well placed to make the most of the home ground advantage, rather than letting the pressure of national expectations get the better of them.

  7. An aquaintence had a plumbing business. Most of his work was on minesites where they had at least a 90 day wait for payment. (In reality it was much more than that)

    As a consequence he charged twice as much. He loved it.

  8. Team Katich says:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:27 am

    LR, When I worked for one in Sydney I was managing a team on a project in the southern highlands. We decided to all stay there during the week for many reasons and I negotiated a good deal with a small family run motel. We became fast friends with the owners. After 3 months they mentioned very politely that head office weren’t paying their invoices and giving all sorts of excuses. I spoke to the Sydney office head accountant who apologised profusely but said that is just how they deal with invoices – especially from peeps they will never deal with again. I explained how difficult a position that put us in and he came through with the love that week. But still, cut throat.
    _____
    Not one of your best travel stories. Nothing really Peterman about it really.

  9. If only we could elect a state or federal government that would actually crack down on large firms for not paying contractors, rather than seeking post politics jobs with them.

  10. The bracing winds of the Southern Highlands was no match for this Horeseman’s Duster. Seeking shelter in a mom and pop Hotel as I managed a crew of ne’er do wells, the unpaid invoices that were sent to the cut throat HQ would have humbled a man dressed any less elegantly. Corduroy-lined collar with chin strap. High-count 100% cotton canvas outer shell. Lightweight cotton lining. Metal snaps and adjustable closures at cuffs. Adjustable leg straps. Snap closures on saddle vent. $459

  11. I see the viewership of the Matilda’s was enormous.

    Clearly Australians are desperate for something to take pride in, in these days of struggle and divisiveness.

  12. Nath, at that Mittagong project….
    it was a particularly tough day on site, thick bush, hot, long hours. We earned a good night out and the budget treated us all to the delights of the local Chinese restaurant. A few wines to start and I got into a chilli boasting competition with a Cambodian colleague. we decided to settle it by both ordering chilli prawns, don’t spare the chilli. I thought I was done when Khopal (or was it Sopal?) started laughing after the first few bites. But then he started crying. And we called it an honourable draw.

    Later that night I noticed a rash developing that turned into hives and then my throat started swelling. Had something bitten me in the bush? Tree funnel web? I knocked on the 2ICs door for help but she had tickets on herself and suspected the ridiculous – and didn’t open the door. So I had to drive myself to the local hospital. A couple of injections and I was fine.

    I became allergic to prawns that day. I wasn’t happy with the diagnosis so tested it several times. The last was just preparing prawns for others at a campsite a looooong way from an inexperienced young ‘doctor’ at Kempsey hospital. The last thing I remember is saying to Mrs Katich that she might like to drive a little faster. I was unconscious for most of that hospital experience and Mrs Katich doesn’t like to talk about it.

    And I can no longer eat shellfish. Which sucks. I like shellfish.

  13. Goll spewed forth, “We are to be guaranteed four days of this from the “hooray henry” brigade, hoarse from singing “Sweet Caroline” during the failed “English” Ashes Bazball cricket campaign, the disaster called Brexit and the “passing of the Queen”.
    (France will be cheering for the Matildas)
    We will be reminded about Little England’s success in the Falklands and Northern Ireland.
    “peace in our time” regardless of the result on Wednesday evening.”

    National stereotype much? These are the characteristics of the ruling class, that is all. Those views are NOT at all representative of ordinary people in Britain. You are well up for an in valid, generalized rant aren’t you? What an ignorant post!

  14. When I was a teenager, my father ran a contracting business. His largest client, without any consultation, moved from 30 day invoicing to 90 day invoicing. Sank his business. Went bankrupt. Our home got reposessed and we had to move to another city for him to get work. It was a pretty awful time. Not sure he was ever the same after that.

  15. I watched Insiders this morning. Saw the discussion over the new portrait of Rudd.

    I found myself thinking, did Rudd ever wear a beard when he was PM?

    I thought the official -portrait was supposed to be representative of the time as PM

  16. CatCrank wrote, “and Australia beat England 1-0 the last time they played. ”

    Yes in a meaningless friendly, where both teams made god knows how many subs. It should be a tight affair, but Australia should win. They have a rabid home crowd and England are starting without four, YES FOUR of their best players. However, do not be surprised if England spoil the party. At any rate, I think Spain or Sweden will win the final.

  17. Littleproud demonstrated the cargo cultist mentality of the Nationals and Liberals over small nuclear reactors and carbon capture and storage.

  18. Socrates, I’m with TPG. Generally I’ve been happy with them although I am considering ditching the landline. My best friends, the telemarketers and sundry scammers will be disappointed.
    I’ve gone with a free Proton email account. At least this way I can keep my email address if I change ISPs.


  19. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:51 am
    The Matildas’ penalty-shootout heartstopper has smashed TV ratings records, knocking off Ash Barty’s Australian Open win, State of Origin and the NRL and AFL grand finals.
    Channel 7’s coverage topped 4.2 million viewers, a phenomenal figure considering so many fans watched the game in pubs and clubs where figures are not included.
    The network’s executives have been told the free-to-air figure will be 3.8 million and another 427,000 watched on streaming service 7plus – which is how it has topped Barty’s Australian Open victory, which averaged 3.577 million.

    The penalty shootout that stopped the nation. 🙂

  20. Team Katich says:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:26 am
    Soc, we are very close to the exchange and suspect TPG have plenty of kit in that exchange so have no speed issues.

    Aussie is a fair bit more expensive but they have very happy customers who demand speed and consistency. Others to consider are superloop and even Optus. Not sure about email on those tho.

    We left iinet a while ago due to annoying random outages on FTTN and moved to Aussie on the recommendation of our son-in-law. A few weeks ago we were able to connect to FTTP after our suburb was upgraded under NBN’s “made for more” program (which I prefer to call “made to wait”).

    In return for a “free” upgrade, we have had to move to a more expensive plan (the minimum allowed) costing $99 per month with Aussie. In the meantime our SIL, who also upgraded to FTTP, changed to Superloop as it is cheaper than Aussie. Internet service has been good except for the past few days when websites seem to take longer to load and there have been a few short outages. I’m hoping this disturbance to service is only because so many customers in our area are being upgraded over a short time.

  21. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/08/french-navy-receives-2nd-barracuda-type-submarine/

    I really think that if we are to go SSN for the Navy, we should have got in the cue for these. 🙁

    Watched Insiders today, Nats seem very keen on slowing things down and taking our time on renewable energy. Which is code for put things off for another 10 years so our donors can make better return on their sunk assets, and profit from grant $ when we are back in our rightful place. FFS, it is just so transparently fwarking stupid. 🙁

  22. Hawaii’s wildfire death toll rises to at least 89, making it the country’s deadliest wildfire in over a century.

  23. They have a rabid home crowd and England are starting without four, YES FOUR of their best players.
    ———————————
    Ahhhhh. So a moral victory is guaranteed.

    Lucky for us the Matilda’s have had the perfect preparation.
    “1000 caps on the line: The Matildas have 11 injuries 65 days out from the Women’s World Cup”
    https://sport.optus.com.au/news/womens-world-cup-2023/os57746/wwc2023-matildas-11-injuries-catley-kennedy-polkinghorne-simon-gielnik-yallop-fowler

  24. For T**** watchers, Fulton County is nearly ready for the guy.

    On Saturday, two witnesses who have received subpoenas to testify before the grand jury — Geoff Duncan, the former lieutenant governor of Georgia, and George Chidi, an independent journalist — revealed that they had received notices to appear before the grand jury on Tuesday.

    If Mr. Trump is indicted in Georgia, he will have to travel to Atlanta in the days or weeks afterward to be booked and arraigned. Numerous security measures are in place at the courthouse, including orange barriers that now ring the downtown court complex.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/12/us/trump-georgia-election-trial.html


  25. Bystandersays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:58 am
    Not sure who but someone posed the question this morning:

    ‘How on earth do so many women in Australia still manage to vote for the Coalition?’
    Boerwar suggested:
    ‘thinking about the hip pocket nerve: women in defence, primary production, rural and regional industries, small business, real estate, tourism, consultancy services…

    Thinking about culture wars: religious women, women with conservative values, ‘family’ women,

    Thinking about women and their partners… tradies’ wives

    I would add that a lot of them are simply not into the extreme wokeism of the left these days. For example, I have seen surveys showing that young women in particular do not see themselves as victims in the way that some feminists seem determined to paint them. They believe it has just gone too far and I think they have a point. A lot of them (mothers in particular) are very concerned about the detrimental affect it is all starting to have on their boys and young men whose concerns are largely neglected. Sooner or later these women are bound to start looking elsewhere when it comes time to vote.

    Many women especially in their 30s and early 40s (for example, ASs of SMH and Age) take their rights they have for granted in addition to compliant, understanding and respecting Husband/ boyfriend. In addition to that they have no-fault divorce to fall on if the husband is none of above. They are educated, earning top dollar (when compared to previous generation women) and quite happy to stay single if they don’t find what they want.
    For example, college educated and working women in good jobs and living in suburbs used to vote for Republican party in USA till Trump Presidency mid-term election and voted for Liberal party in Australia till Morrison government put itself for re-election because they got lot of tax cuts, they don’t have to worry about abortion rights, they can get cheap loans to buy homes.
    Now things changed and they are looking for alternative. They are not yet convinced with ALP. So parked their vote with Teals and Greens political party for the time being.


  26. C@tmommasays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:13 am
    Rex Douglas @ #1626 Sunday, August 13th, 2023 – 9:13 am

    Annika Wells in GENUINE tears of joy was good see.

    It was cringe to see Albo doing a Morrison though.

    Why do you take the opportunity to say such a callous, and frankly untrue, thing? Does it make you feel good to be pointlessly spiteful?

    I am almost certain gives rat’s back side what Rex thinks. Rex posts those things to hurt the feelings of some PBers. Probably Rex gets a kick out of posting those things. Who knows? Rex is just an avatar.


  27. Team Katichsays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:14 am
    C@t, friendlies don’t count much in my book. Knockout comp form does.

    England, on paper, should be favourites. Home game helps. Kerr doesn’t seem fully match fit. But Fowlers form is v good and might be improving. Vine is an interesting X factor late.

    We kept that about other teams that played against Australia except Nigeria, who beat them. And Australia beat all others. 🙂

  28. Ven @ #1731 Sunday, August 13th, 2023 – 1:14 pm


    C@tmommasays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:13 am
    Rex Douglas @ #1626 Sunday, August 13th, 2023 – 9:13 am

    Annika Wells in GENUINE tears of joy was good see.

    It was cringe to see Albo doing a Morrison though.

    Why do you take the opportunity to say such a callous, and frankly untrue, thing? Does it make you feel good to be pointlessly spiteful?

    I am almost certain gives rat’s back side what Rex thinks. Rex posts those things to hurt the feelings of some PBers. Probably Rex gets a kick out of posting those things. Who knows? Rex is just an avatar.

    Same same, clem attlee. They’re both from Victoria as well. 😀


  29. Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
    Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43 am
    Once a team gets through to a semi final in a soccer World Cup (and probably at the quarter final stage in a men’s WC tournament) any one of the remaining teams can win.

    Like all team sports, soccer is a game of momentum, and each of the semi-finalists have that momentum. Form in the earlier rounds of the group stage, or in pre-tournament friendlies, or world rankings means squat. I’d rank each of the semi-finalists real – and equal – chances of winning the whole lot.

    That being said there a few things running in the Matildas favour:

    1. The spine of the unit has been together for the better part of a decade, yet new talent (ie. the likes of Fowler) have been injected into the mix seamlessly. The team has gelled really well in this tournament. Even with Kerr’s absence from the pitch for most of it.

    2. The Matildas have heaps of players with big match experience. Both at the international level and also at the club level: the pressure on Kerr at Chelsea would rival the pressure she faces when playing for Australia, for example.

    3. As a consequence of 1 and 2 above, the Matildas are well placed to make the most of the home ground advantage, rather than letting the pressure of national expectations get the better of them.

    This Matildas team reminds me of Steve Waugh 1999 World Cup cricket team, who were one match away being eliminated in group stage but went on to win the World Cup.

  30. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/08/french-navy-receives-2nd-barracuda-type-submarine/

    it is well worth noting that the availability of the Suffren class – 270 days per yer, is double what any submarine program has been able to deliver amongst AUKUS nations to date. Typically (when outside the ‘full dock life cycle maintenance’ program phases – ie. every the approx. 2 years in seven that a boat is in dry dock being completely refitted) a boat is only available one third of the time. That’s why submarines traditionally operate in groups of three, with one boat at sea, another boat readying to put to sea and the final boat in deep maintenance). In truth they actually operate in groups of FOUR boats, with the fourth boat undertaking that ‘full dock life cycle maintenance’ overhaul at any given time.

    Moreover, the French have increased the period in between ‘full life cycle dock maintence’ to a one in ten year service; and the time spend in dry dock for this overhaul reduced to 12 months (during which they also refuel – 4 days – and recycle the internal coolant water – four months; concurrently with other overhaul work on the sub).

    Further, a Suffren only needs a crew of 60; whereas the Astute needs 98, and the Virginia Class needs 130.

    In effect, the French give their navy two boats in one in terms of overall availability. So … 12 Suffren class boats in the RAN … could be the equivalent of … 24 AUKUS class subs. Just in terms of availability and time ‘on station’. Not to mention that any ‘Aussie Suffren’ would still likley have the same american combat systems and weapons as the subs under the AUKUS deal (and there is scope to add in VL plugs as well).

    Or, to put it another way: the first four suffrens (which could have been in RAN service by 2038) would have delivered the same effective capability as 8 SSN AUKUS class subs, the last of which we wouldn’t be getting for another 25 years (ie. by 2063, according to ‘the plan’).

  31. iiNet, TPG and others.

    Accidentally discovered their email service being sold to The Message Company yesterday and rang iiNet support.
    Seems that agreeing to transfer our email service to The Message Company is a no cost option for the next 12 months. After that mumbled response, annual bill of “$5 to $10”.
    Apart from changed source of service and support “nothing changes” ie email address is unchanged which means all the sites where the email address is your Id not effected.
    Think I will give it a try and see how it works out.
    Looking at the web site for The Message Company does not reveal a lot except they claim to have been in business for 20 years.
    I must say the existing email service has been running like a blocked drain in recent time and a change may be beneficial.

  32. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/8/12/2186756/-Of-Course-Republicans-are-Angry-They-Have-Been-Out-Gamed-AGAIN

    So Republicans like Gym Jordan and James Comer have been loudly demanding that a Special Counsel be appointed to investigate Hunter Biden. When they finally got their wish, they responded with outrage, (because when do Republicans respond with anything else these days?) A “distraction” they are calling it and an attempt to “whitewash” the supposed “crimes” of Hunter Biden. Leaving a whole lot of people baffled as to why they would be so furious because they got what they want. Outrage is reflexive in today’s GOP, remember that when Trump won they managed to be both self satisfied and angry simultaneously but there is a much more important reason for this particular temper tantrum. Yeah, they’re angry and it’s because…

    1) As usual, Republicans acted on the assumption that Democrats would behave as dishonestly and unethically as they, themselves and so would never in a million years appoint a Special Counsel, even though the Democrats are as aware as anybody else that there is no evidence of wrongdoing because there was no wrongdoing. Republicans thought that they were safe to loudly and publicly demand a Special Counsel because they would never get one because they, themselves would never grant that if their positions were flipped. The fact that Republicans have long used a partisan DOJ to do their dirty work means that they can’t imagine an independent DOJ. Which brings us to…

  33. the senater Ron johnson who lead the charge against hunter bidon coming up with the bidon crime family slogan is the same person who presured oficials to change votes to over turn the election result they still have not managed to find any crimes bidon has dun while there is evidence against trump

  34. the liberals realy have talinted senaters the political hack james mcgrath who was sacked by boris johnson for raceizm managed camblen campaign in 2012 was abusing the labor senaters for bringing there own motion on farmasees with him ranting and bermingham stalling the liberals waisted 20 minutes and aplications for farmasees have increased i dont think the guild represents all farmasees

  35. wonder if entsch will retire or weather he will deside he isstaying for one more term he promised to resign the last three elections but at the last minute twomey wants to replace entsch in his seat

  36. twomey was the president of entsch local federal council as well asjoined morrison during the last election campaign and was yung liberal preesident at james cook university he is responsible for farmasee restrictions

  37. “LOL! “Please try and get more than 10 of those brain cells buzzing at any one point”.”

    A bit harsh perhaps when addressed at MSM types who probably cap out at 5.

Comments Page 35 of 38
1 34 35 36 38

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *