The Age/Herald has results from Resolve Strategic on the Indigenous Voice (hopefully to be followed shortly by voting intention results) finding effectively no change since it last asked in late February and early March, with yes steady at 46%, no down one to 31% and undecided steady on 22% (the total falling short of 100% on this occasion due to rounding). Respondents were also given the question without an undecided option, with the sample breaking 58-42 in favour. The accompanying report says a “rolling track of surveys over the past two months, using a larger sample size to allow a state-by-state breakdown, shows a majority in favour of the Voice in each state as well as nationwide”. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1609.
A second result on the Indigenous Voice emerges from the latest fortnightly Essential Research poll, as reported in The Guardian, showing 60% in favour and 40% opposed. However, “hard no” was up three to 26% and “soft no” was down three to 14%, while hard yes was down one to 32% and soft yes was steady at 27%. Essential had hitherto been tracking traditional personal ratings only for Anthony Albanese (as distinct from a separate series in which respondents are invited to rate the leaders on a scale from zero to ten), but this time there are results for Peter Dutton, who records 36% approval and 44% disapproval. Anthony Albanese is down one on approval to 51% and up one on disapproval to 36%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1136 – other results, including voting intention, should be available later today.
UPDATE: Essential’s voting intention numbers have both Labor and the Coalition up a point on the primary vote, to 34% and 31% respectively, with the Greens and One Nation steady on 14% and 6%, from numbers which include a 4% undecided component, down one. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure has Labor down one to 52%, the Coalition up one to 43% and undecided down one to 4%. Also featured was a series of questions in which respondents were asked to rate Labor and the Coalition according to eight attributes, which produced an effective tie for “trying to divide the country” but was otherwise consistently more favourable for Labor than the Coalition.
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citizensays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:15 am
“Victoria says:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:38 am
Ron De Santis is doing a job of making himself totally unelectable at the national level. He signs off on 6 week abortion and now saying that they could build a prison next door to Disney.”
Perhaps he could order the public health people to declare Mar-a-Largo uninhabitable and send in the demolition crews!
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I don’t get the joke.
“Shadow home affairs spokeswoman Karen Andrews will quit the opposition frontbench after Liberal leader Peter Dutton announces his reshuffle on Tuesday morning.
Andrews will move to the backbench and will not recontest her seat at the next election.”
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/karen-andrews-to-quit-coalition-frontbench-ahead-of-peter-dutton-s-reshuffle-20230418-p5d18d.html
When government is perpetually out of reach the Canberra Liberals can afford to oppose the Voice. The Libs are unlikely to form government in the ACT ever again and it seems like they know that.
Boerwar @ Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05 am:
“Thank you BK.
Good morning, all, including Mr AI.”
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BW, good morning from all of us, too! You’ve got me curious – who here do you think is an AI?
“ The main strategic problem for Australia is that our main buyer of goods and services will, long before any sub kisses the water, have reduced demand for coal and iron ore. ”
Boer, i think this is seriously misplaced analysis. Even with a static, perhaps even a slightly declining population, the urbanisation project in China only half way to completion. Starting at around 20% urnabisation rates at the beginning of the Deng renaissance, China now stands with 55% of its population living urbanised. There is likely another 35% to go. THAT will take another 30 years (being optimistic) to 50 years (if, as expected China suffers the sorts of growing pains that we are seeing with its present housing bubble). That means 30-50 years of unceasing demand for iron ore and coking coal.
Edit: Steve777 got in first.
Was this stepping down over the Voice?
Barnyard was interviewed on RN this morning, he had not been to the early opener.
In short, he did not agree with ‘introducing a provision based on race’ into the Constitution.
Expect to hear a lot more race-baiting from No campaign.
I hope the House of Reps staff in charge of seating allocation put Karen Andrews next to Scott Morrison
“Andrews will move to the backbench and will not recontest her seat at the next election.”
Will the last person out of the Liberal Party please turn out the lights?
Yep. de Santis is going places, not……..lol
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BREAKING: A MASSIVE walkout involving High School and College students is scheduled to take place in Florida on April 21st, with the purpose of DEFYING Ron DeSantis and his OUTRAGEOUS assault on Education, the LGBT+ community and efforts to SILENCE education about race. Details about the ‘Walkout to Learn project’:
– More than 300 high schools and colleges are expected to participate in the mass walkout at noon, followed by rallies in the evening.
– The project aims to develop short-term resources and tools while building long-term power to retake the Florida legislature.
– As part of the project, students will participate in walkouts and rallies, sign an active voter pledge, take a five-minute lesson on banned policies, and register for a virtual African-American history course.
– The pledge ensures that signees will never support someone who doesn’t support students’ rights and automatically attaches their voter registration status, which is sent to every elected official from school board to Senate for civic engagement.
”Was this stepping down over the Voice?”
The report didn’t say.
My question was, did she go or was she “persuaded”?
Karen Andrews on a 24% margin in McPherson
https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2019/guide/mcph
Boerwar
“ The main strategic problem for Australia is that our main buyer of goods and services will, long before any sub kisses the water, have reduced demand for coal and iron ore. ”
Reduced but not eliminated. Thermal Coal can and should be replaced now. Coking coal is only economic to replace on high value, high grade steel. Maybe things will change over the next 30 years, maybe not. Qld coal exports to China should dwindle.
But steel is still the backbone of every industrial economy. WA iron ore is excellent quality, large in quantity and set up to be exported cheaply. Its only serious volume competitor is Brazil, which faces higher shipping costs to China. Potential African competitors have even higher cost barriers, with Belt and Road mired in debt. China still needs WA iron ore for the foreseeable future.
Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:11 am
Demand for coal will fall as we transition to renewables.
Demand for iron is increasing worldwide, so new mines are needed to meet this rising demand. It’s hard to see how this will reduce demand for our iron ore.
Victoria
Just as Scomo and Abbott created a generation of Green and Labor young voters here, I wonder if De Santis will do the same for democrat voters in Florida?
This story has been out there a few days and it’s caused Scotch College to ‘walk-back’ the policy of the Presbyterian Church. At the time I wondered what methods the church was going to use to pry into the sexual practices of potential school captains?
Yes, the Dali Lama has made himself a pariah , but seriously? How creepy are some of these home grown religious types?
https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/national-news/hamish-macdonald-slams-australian-churchs-plans-to-ban-gay-school-captains/223210
Dutton
‘Today I want to announce the following changes to the Coalition Shadow ministry. I’m absolutely delighted that Senator Jacinta Price will take on the role of Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians. Many Australians know Jacinta well. She’s a fighter. She’s a warrior for Indigenous Australians. And she’s a very proud territorian. She’s a former councillor, mayor of Alice Springs and small business-owner. She’s always fought hard to improve the lives of Indigenous women and kids and we’ve seen that in recent days. She’s done an incredible amount of work to tackle tough issues like the scourge of sexual abuse, domestic violence and the crisis in law and order in some Indigenous communities, particularly Alice Springs most recently”
Michaelia Cash as shadow A-G
“ Kerrynne Liddle named shadow minister for child protection”
I see what you did there, Dutts.
The Wolverine is promoted..
“ Senator James Paterson will join the shadow cabinet as the new Shadow Minister for Home Affairs, as a former member and chair of the parliamentary joint committee for national security, he’s been at the forefront of many debates about the future of our country in recent years.
He’s done an outstanding job in holding the government to account for crime security failures. He will retain his existing shadow ministerial portfolio of cybersecurity and will do a great job there”
Dutton has taken the direct advice from Australia’s wisest wisewoman elder, Senator Pauline Hanson!
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:07 am
@ Cronus:
“ In all the months since the election of the Albanese government I never spoke to a single Liberal who imagined that the party would support the voice in principle.”
Greg Sheridan certainly belled the cat on the Libs regarding The Voice.”
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That he has. However, assuming he is being truthful, then the fact that he has never spoken to a single Liberal who imagined that the party would support the voice tells us all we need to know about exactly which Liberal circles he moves in, and which ones he doesn’t.
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Perhaps he has a broad group of narrow-minded friends and colleagues.
All that fake outrage must have worn Andrews down.
If I recall correctly she was mentioned at time in relation to leadership roles but did not run for deputy.
Must be hard coming to terms with running second to Ley.
I’ll give her credit though, just a little bit, for her anger ar Morrison and his extra portfolio shennanigans.
Barnaby also trying to push the line that the Voice would be “selected not elected” which thankfully Karvelas pulled him up on as bullshit. Which just goes to show that when she usually doesn’t do that to Liberal political lies it’s from lack of interest rather than lack of ability.
The Age says Karen Andrews is just quitting politics, not quitting over the Voice. It would have been a super surprise for Karen Andrews to be quitting over the Voice. I guess she found Opposition unappealing, or maybe she discovered like so many Coalition women before her that her leadership ambitions would never be respected in the Liberal Party.
“James Patterson named shadow home affairs minister”
Surely this is the cue for Graham Chapman, in British army officer uniform, to stride onto stage and say: “Stop this at once! This is getting tooo silly!”
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Socratessays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:34 am
Victoria
Just as Scomo and Abbott created a generation of Green and Labor young voters here, I wonder if De Santis will do the same for democrat voters in Florida?
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Nah! According to Rick Wilson Florida is the most corrupt state in USA and that says something (Wilson lives in that state).
As Cuban Americans are majority of Latinos they will never vote for Democrats. It appears the grudge is passed from generation to generation.
DeSantis signed into 6 weeks abortion limit. How confident he would be to sign such a legislation into law?
Thank you for the various responses. China can reduce its iron ore imports by a third to a half by using recycled steel. The latter can be resmelted using renewable electricity. This would require a large investment in the right sort of furnaces. It would dramatically reduce coking coal needs. The point is that Australia would become a price taker. China has already turned tourism and student services demand off and on by fiat.
So the Nationals get an extra Shadow Cabinet seat?
Let’s wait to see the formal listing, as Dutton only talking about Price ‘in the ministry’, not shadow cabinet
Sprocket
When I last had coffee with Aunty Pam Bell , local Ngunnawal elder and mother of NRL ex-player, Mark Bell, as well as Aboriginal Education Assistant and teacher, she referred to cocoanuts in a disparaging way. When next we meet I’m sure she’ll have something to say about Jacinta.
The way I see it, China has four choices available to it when it comes to acquiring the iron ore and gas it currently sources from Australia:
1. Continue as now
2. Acquire from elsewhere
3. Invade us and take it themselves
4. Still acquire from us, but on better terms for them than they have to date.
If they have their head screwed on right, they will choose to pursue (4) by threatening us with some combination of (2) and (3).
(2) can only work as leverage on us for them to extract (4) if they can mount a case for arguing they can do better elsewhere which we will find credible. Good luck to them, for as long as we just keep minimally informed about global market conditions ourselves.
That leaves (3). The 9 News ‘Red Alert’ hysteria is certainly trying its best to give credibility to fear of an ‘invasion’ from the North. I see this odd 9 News campaign as doing Beijing’s work of tilling the soil for future trade negotiations with us, with a side serve of gratuitous US alliance tail-wagging thrown in. Far-fetched, I know, but it seems we live in febrile times.
Steve777 says:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:22 am
“Shadow home affairs spokeswoman Karen Andrews will quit the opposition frontbench after Liberal leader Peter Dutton announces his reshuffle on Tuesday morning.
Andrews will move to the backbench and will not recontest her seat at the next election.”
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/karen-andrews-to-quit-coalition-frontbench-ahead-of-peter-dutton-s-reshuffle-20230418-p5d18d.html
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And regardless of whether this has anything to do with The Voice, another resignation only adds to the perception of instability and disunity within the Libs.
@Cronus: I never believed the Federal Liberal Party under Dutton would support the Voice either. The most someone like Leeser could have hoped for without being terminally delusional was for a free vote to be granted.
And the call in the COALalition party room is, WHERE GOING DOWN , EVERY DIPSHIT FOR THEM SELVES.( women last of course )
And the band played waltzing Matilda.
Time to rebrand the LNP?
All hail the KNP: the Know-Nothing Party.
“Don’t know? Vote no.”
Guardian:
“ Karen Andrews has released a statement about her decision to step down from the front bench saying she wanted to make sure that the Coalition had the “maximum” time to find appropriate replacements.
She also said that she will *continue to support the party position on the voice*.”
“Release the Karen!”
Ms Price was Deputy Mayor of Alice Springs in 2020-21, but never Mayor.
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Enough Alreadysays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:52 am
The way I see it, China has four choices available to it when it comes to acquiring the iron ore and gas it currently sources from Australia:
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That leaves (3). The 9 News ‘Red Alert’ hysteria is certainly trying its best to give credibility to fear of an ‘invasion’ from the North. I see this odd 9 News campaign as doing Beijing’s work of tilling the soil for future trade negotiations with us, with a side serve of gratuitous US alliance tail-wagging thrown in. Far-fetched, I know, but it seems we live in febrile times.
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As they say, If Australia goes to war against China in 3 years time, then AUKUS deal is not worth the paper it is written on. On that basis we need Submarines, irrespective of how they are powered, now and not in a never never timeframe future as it is written now.
There in lies the contradiction for AUKUS deal and waging a warning 3 years time.
Guardian blog:
“Dutton has denied that Andrews’ decision to step down from the front bench was due to the opposition’s stance on the voice”
Luke 22:61:
‘And Peter remembered the saying of the Lord, how he had said to him, “Before the rooster crows today, you will deny me three times.”’
It does seem passing strange that Karen Andrews walks the plank, with barely a grumpy word about the former and current leadership deadbeats…
So what’s the factional breakdown of the shadow ministry? Is there a net move to the Right?
“Welease the Kawen!”
Fixed that for you, Oliver.
“Ms Price was Deputy Mayor of Alice Springs in 2020-21, but not Mayor.”
That’s a very ABC statement, Steve! 😉
Karen Andrews was one of the potential leadership candidates post election. If she is quitting, she must not think they are going to be back in government for the rest of the decade.
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Oliver Suttonsays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:57 am
Guardian:
“ Karen Andrews has released a statement about her decision to step down from the front bench saying she wanted to make sure that the Coalition had the “maximum” time to find appropriate replacements.
She also said that she will *continue to support the party position on the voice*.”
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Didn’t she say she wants to spend more time with family? 🙂
Ta, AE. 😉
David Littleproud says city slickers shouldn’t set policy for those in the bush. If only country f–kheads would stay in their lane and get out of our lives.
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Steve777says:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:03 am
Ms Price was Deputy Mayor of Alice Springs in 2020-21, but not Mayor.
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Joseph Goebbels said when you lie you lie big to make it believable.
From March 16….
In a Sky News interview on Thursday, Andrews said she wasn’t aware of Morton’s appointment to home affairs on the same day she was sworn in as the minister for home affairs.
“Given what we’ve heard, it’s not surprising that I wasn’t told about it,” she said.
“It’s not OK to behave in the way the former prime minister and others have in relation to keeping information secret. I’ve very publicly stated my views in relation to the former prime minister. Absolutely nothing has changed to alter my view on that.”
Andrews called on Morrison to resign after revelations he secretly appointed himself to five additional portfolios in 2020 and 2021, including home affairs.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/16/liberal-mp-blasts-scott-morrison-over-unknown-appointment-as-second-post-revealed
Oliver Suttonsays:
Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:57 am
She seems to be suggesting that the person replacing her is not an appropriate one.