Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor

Slight improvement in the Coalition’s voting intention numbers, but Scott Morrison’s personal ratings continue to track down.

The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has Labor leading 53-47, in from 54-46 three weeks ago. The primary votes are Coalition 37% (up two), Labor 38% (steady), Greens 11% (steady) and One Nation 2% (down one). Scott Morrison is down two on approval to 44% and up two on disapproval to 52%, while Anthony Albanese is respectively steady on 37% and up two to 48%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister has been cut from 48-34 to 46-38. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1524.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,544 comments on “Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor”

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  1. Fulvio Sammut @ #1055 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:00 pm

    Bitdefender tells me that since the 12th of November I have received well over 100 phishing attempts on my computer. The name presspatron appears in the address of the site the phishing is alleged to come from.

    I hope they have not been hijacked.

    Me too! I thought it was the C+ program because it seems to pop up every time I change the settings to correct a mistake and go from C+ to Vanilla PB. Or maybe C+ has been compromised by phishers?

  3. Ah yes, here comes the conservative clone of the racist potato to lecture actual progressives about how to be progressive. Just what we needed!

    Next up, the progressive spud will be telling us how invading Iraq was a great idea! Oh, no, wait we’ve already done that one, haven’t we. Of course, now we’re off to fight the “good fight” against China, aren’t we! Yeeeeeee haaaaaaw!

  4. Not sure of the Government wasting $$$ on tv ads re : cybercrime. Seems pointless.

    Know they are trying to play into keeping us safe theme but think they might be out witting themselves.

  5. We all recall the predictions here on PB:

    Cud Chewer says:
    Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:39 pm
    “its going to be a great spring in Sydney”

    Yeah, apart from tens to hundreds of thousands of covid cases…
    Lars the Liberal apologist as usual not connected to reality.

  6. Douglas and Milko @ #1093 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 9:06 pm

    Firefox

    A vote for Labor is a vote to support terrible Coalition policies.

    Vote Greens if you really want to oppose the Coalition and their destructive agenda.

    So are you on board with Quiggin’s put Labor last push?

    And how do you think keeping Morrison in Government for the next three years will further the Greens’ agenda?

    Firefox is an impotent purist. Without a lick of political common sense.

    If he was in America, he’d be advocating voting for Harry Houdini, or whoever the hell the Green candidate for POTUS was in 2020, and not for Joe Biden because Bernie Sanders wasn’t chosen to run for the Democrats. And ending up with Donald Trump again. 😐

  8. nath,

    There’s a difference to being progressive or a Progressive.

    Language is a very versatile means of expressing ideas.

    But, rabble rousers like you dislike subtlety and nuance.

  9. We in NSW were locked down for 3 months, yet the murdoch press didn’t constantly try to undermined it every single day, and they didn’t call Gladys a dictator…
    No ones calling to hang Gladys or Dom either, yet they have applied stricts measures comparable to Victoria… Why the hypocracy?
    In SA do people call politicians to be killed?

  10. Interestingly, Albo was running against Green luminary Jim Casey who said he said he preferred Liberal governments because they made for bigger and better street protests.

    You can ask Adam Bandt about it. He was there Jimbo said it. And he’s never said one word to contradict it.

  13. I agree with you 100% PN. But you will never convince the rusted-on Greens who will never, ever, ever admit that their 100% righteous party was ever wrong or could ever make a mistake.
    When the Greens blocked the CPRS they sought to justify their act and have doubled-down on that justification ever since, every time they’re criticised. Hence, the Greens’ blocking the CPRS has become an article of faith instead of the mistake it ought to be seen as.

    Well said. According to 2019 sources that if Kevin Rudd CPRS had been passed in 2009, Australia’s carbon emissions would be more than 200 million tonnes lower. Instead what we have got now is nothing. I know we would certainty be in a better place today in terms of the environment if the Greens didn’t scuttle everything.

  14. “So are you on board with Quiggin’s put Labor last push?

    And how do you think keeping Morrison in Government for the next three years will further the Greens’ agenda?”

    ***

    Voting 1 Greens doesn’t help the Coalition, it hurts them. It’s a stronger vote against them than voting Labor.

    I always put Labor ahead of the Coalition and I have consistently advocated that others do exactly that. There is no risk of helping the Coalition by giving the Greens your 1st preference and Labor your 2nd or 3rd, just put them somewhere above the Coalition and you can’t go wrong in that respect. If your vote doesn’t elect a progressive Green it will flow through to Labor anyway.

    1. Greens
    2. Left wing minors and independents
    3. Labor
    4. Coalition
    5. One Nation/UAP/Etc…

    That is how you cast the most powerful vote for the progressive left in Australia.

  15. Greensborough Growler says:
    Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    nath,

    There’s a difference to being progressive or a Progressive.

    Language is a very versatile means of expressing ideas.
    _______________________
    You will have to enlighten us oh great Dictionarist.

  17. Quiggin appears to be correct.

    I am yet to see any argument for Labor other than that they would do it better.

    I would like them to stop it. Why would I vote for them to do it better?

  18. “Well said. According to 2019 sources that if Kevin Rudd CPRS had been passed in 2009, Australia’s carbon emissions would be more than 200 million tonnes lower. Instead what we have got now is nothing. I know we would certainty be in a better place today in terms of the environment if the Greens didn’t scuttle everything.”

    ***

    Nah, the CPRS would have us in a worse position than we are even now under the Coalition had it ever been implemented. The Greens’ ETS which was actually implemented was far more effective.

    In just its first year of operations, the Clean Energy Act cut emissions by 10 million tonnes.

    If the Liberals hadn’t torn up the carbon price, Australia would have stopped an additional 256 million tonnes of pollution going into the atmosphere.

    Every tonne counts.

    We’ve modelled it. If the price on pollution had not been murdered on the floor of the Parliament, we would have cut over a quarter of a billion tonnes extra of pollution over the last six years.

    In 2020, pollution would be 464 million tonnes a year, compared with the 512 Mt we reached under the Liberals and the 529-585 Mt forecast under Kevin Rudd’s own poor first draft of a climate policy.

    If we had kept the price on pollution, we would have met the Coalition’s weak 2030 targets in 2020.

    https://greensmps.org.au/articles/world-possibilities-lost-carbon-pricing-numbers

    Every time you defend the CPRS you are defending taking less action than the Coalition are now – that’s how truly useless it would have been.

  21. “If he was in America, he’d be advocating voting for Harry Houdini, or whoever the hell the Green candidate for POTUS was in 2020, and not for Joe Biden ”

    ***

    Nooooo, never, I wouldn’t do that would I? What gives you that idea?

    You’re damn right I would! No way I’m supporting Biden the war criminal. Pretty sure I’ve already made that abundantly clear lol.

    I’d rather support good people like Bernie Sanders and Howie Hawkins and lose than support either Biden or Trump and win any day.

  25. I’ve never been a greens member and I’ve been a labor member for about half the last 30 years.

    Objectively, on key policy issues, the greens have been the most correct and would have been better for the economy and the community that Labor.

    It is a real shame they have stayed a tiny closed club with no idea on how to expand its appeal. The last 5 years it should have been a no brainer, but still no.

  26. Jeager

    Exactly. Totally fucking idiotic when at one stage they had eradication of fire ants in view and all they needed was the funding.

    I’ve dealt with fire ants (in Texas). Nasty little bastards.

  28. So Porter to run again? How could the West have got it so wrong?
    I suspect, as things stand, Porter is so compromised he will struggle…Does he have the stomach for it? Currently 5% +- margin is a lot of fat……However, perhaps his fame will see him through…..If he wins, of course, none of what happen will matter……
    Troy Buswell, former DP and Treasurer, despite the smell around him, was re-elected with an increased majority at one point and just seen as a “bit of a naughty boy” by the wine guzzlers in his electorate at the time…..
    Since, of course, his marital relationships have proved to be less than ideal…….

  29. Firefox says:
    Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 9:36 pm
    “If he was in America, he’d be advocating voting for Harry Houdini, or whoever the hell the Green candidate for POTUS was in 2020, and not for Joe Biden ”

    ***

    Nooooo, never, I wouldn’t do that would I? What gives you that idea?

    You’re damn right I would! No way I’m supporting Biden the war criminal. Pretty sure I’ve already made that abundantly clear lol.

    I’d rather support good people like Bernie Sanders and Howie Hawkins and lose than support either Biden or Trump and win any day.
    _________________________________________________________
    Right, and split the progressive vote and make sure someone like Donald Trump wins. Just like the great Ralph Nader in 2000 ensured the election of George W Bush.
    So in that instance, what would be the practical difference between you and a conservative voter?
    It is this sort of impractical approach to politics that always turns me away from voting for a party like the Greens, even if I agree with 95% of what they say.
    I want to ensure progressive policies are implemented, not just advocated.

  31. “It is a real shame they have stayed a tiny closed club with no idea on how to expand its appeal. The last 5 years it should have been a no brainer, but still no.”

    ***

    Over those 30 years you speak of, the Greens have gone from having zero voters to having around one and a half million now. We are far from a tiny closed club. That’s the message the majors like to put out there – that we are just some fringe group who don’t represent many people – but that could not be further from the truth. One and a half million Australians place their trust in the Greens to represent them in Parliament.

  32. Tricot ,
    porter is running to pick up 60K for being an incumbent member. Don’t expect and energetic campaign from him. I expect he’ll phone it in, get booted and take the look and disappear into obscurity as a sky news correspondent.

  33. Given the carry on about “Hotel Quarantine” staff being supplied by labour hire operators, is there any similar carry on about “surge staff” in Aged Care businesses being supplied by labour hire operators (contracted by the Federal Government)?

    Then the Chief Nurse is instructed to actually visit the business and reports back that everything is fine and there is no need to relocate residents

    Whilst there were no infectious disease control protocols at the business – where staff were being stood down because they were infected

    This was a business which was given bed licences by the Federal Government – and operated under federal oversight and audit

    What is not being mentioned is the Aged Care facilities which did respond appropriately – including all under State jurisdiction

    The deaths which were the very great majority of the deaths in Victoria were in just a few Aged Care businesses – under federal jurisdiction, exclusively

  34. Exactly. Totally fucking idiotic when at one stage they had eradication of fire ants in view and all they needed was the funding.

    Apparently eradicating the QLD PS was more important; I hope the stinging electoral defeat was at least as painful as an angry fire ant.

  35. “It is this sort of impractical approach to politics that always turns me away from voting for a party like the Greens, even if I agree with 95% of what they say.
    I want to ensure progressive policies are implemented, not just advocated”

    You’d have to be pretty disappointed with this strategy that has failed for thirty years in the US, UK and Australia, with oneway traffic away from progressive polices, the ‘greatness’ of the centrist party in all three countries being largely unwilling or unable to implement their progressive polices and having a high watermark of being better because they drive society in the wrong direction but more slowly than the right wing parties.

    How many decades would it take to re-evaluate that strategy?

  36. I think the question of who is more progressive when discussing Labor and the Greens always misses the main point of how they approach elections.
    The Greens have no hope of being in government or even official opposition for the foreseeable future. Despite their 20-odd years in federal politics, the Greens have managed to only win and keep one lower house seat. They have fared better in the Senate, which is where their greatest strength lies.
    The Greens have to maintain their voter base, which is why they take more ambitious stands on climate action, progressive taxation and speak out more about refugees.
    This sometimes irks Labor, which has to appeal to a broader section of voters, including some who often vote Coalition, in order to win government. This often spells compromise on key policies as well as avoiding any policy, such as wealth taxes, which could be misrepresented and used in a scare campaign against Labor.
    Despite this, a Labor government will depend on Green senators to pass vital legislation, and Greens will depend on a Labor government to implement policies they believe in.

  37. “Right, and split the progressive vote and make sure someone like Donald Trump wins”

    ***

    Wrong. Biden is not a progressive. He is a mass murdering war criminal who is responsible for the deaths of up to two and a half million innocent men, women, and children as a result of his decision to strongly support Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

    I have already well and truly prosecuted this argument and see no need for a retrial.

    I supported good people – Sanders and Hawkins – for president. I’m not the one who has to justify supporting a war criminal like Biden or some far-right whacko like Trump, it’s for you in the establishment to figure out how to sleep at night with that horrific choice on your conscience.

  38. And there we have it.

    The fake progressive posturer tells us they’d vote for a no hoper over someone who might’ve kept Trump out of power.

    Someone who might have kept Amy Coney-Barrett out of the supreme court and made it so women in Texas might have access to reproductive healthcare.

    But no! Its more important to be the loud voice of opposition. To be the impotent few. Than to actually care about real people and their real lived experience.

    Clearly whats the most important to Firefox and the Greens is posturing and posing and congratulating themselves on their own moral perfection.

    Shameful.

  39. I can’t see how ScoMo is a liar.

    His bible pillories “the deceiver” (eg Revelations 12:9).

    And in Proverbs (12:22) it says that “the Lord detests lying lips, but…delights in people who are trustworthy”.

    Surely, as an expert in the Christian Scriptures, and their biggest ever fan, he can do nothing else but follow them.

    Ipso facto, then, ScoMo cannot be a liar.

  40. 3z says:
    Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:04 pm

    And there we have it.

    The fake progressive posturer tells us they’d vote for a no hoper over someone who might’ve kept Trump out of power.
    Shameful.
    __________
    Firefox doesn’t vote in the United States, so the worst you could say is that it’s hypothetically shameful.

  41. “One and a half million Australians place their trust in the Greens to represent them in Parliament.”

    What is that stat? Have you adjusted for the fact people can vote green without having to ever having to do a risk analysis of them winning.

    I understand this huge very important club doesn’t have a lot of money but still you think that would make them focus on strong grass root campaigns. You can’t even fully staff a polling place for a whole day. What are all these fervent greens doing during election campaigns instead of campaigning? Writing victory speeches?

  43. Greensborough Growlersays:
    Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    Doesn’t take much to impress you does it.

    Ask Jane Garrett what she thinks of Andrews integrity. Marshall threatens to slit her throat so Andrews decides to sack her.
    Am not sure we have heard the end of Mikakos either after Andrews threw her under a bus in order to save his own skin.

  46. nath,

    The first job of any Dictionarist is to remind you that you are a dickhead!

    The second job of any Dictionarist is to remind you that little dictionarists just have to live with what they have got.

  47. “What is that stat?”

    ***

    The actual number is 1,482,923. That’s the number of first preferences the Greens received in the House of Reps at the 2019 Election.

    Alternatively, you can also go by the first preferences in the Senate, which was 1,488,427, which is 6k higher than the Reps.

    House: https://results.aec.gov.au/24310/Website/HouseStateFirstPrefsByParty-24310-NAT.htm

    Senate: https://results.aec.gov.au/24310/Website/SenateStateFirstPrefsByGroup-24310-NAT.htm

  48. “Yeah, yeah. We’ve been through all this nonsense about the US Election. Pretty sure we all know where everyone stands by now lol.”

    We certainly know how effective the dems are in power, both at the federal level and the state level in the US. Housing is almost free in California, like Victoria, every blue state has a fantastic education system and all that great public transport.

  49. Greensborough Growler says:
    Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:12 pm

    nath,

    The first job of any Dictionarist is to remind you that you are a dickhead!
    ______________________
    Actually, I think the first job of anyone is to remind you that your comment about reaching for a revolver whenever someone calls themselves a progressive is probably the most stupid comment I’ve seen for a while. Particularly for someone who actually mans an ALP booth on here most days. How you reconcile those two facts is for you to work out, but I’m certain your imbecility will decide the matter.

  50. Firefox

    I always put Labor ahead of the Coalition and I have consistently advocated that others do exactly that. There is no risk of helping the Coalition by giving the Greens your 1st preference and Labor your 2nd or 3rd, just put them somewhere above the Coalition and you can’t go wrong in that respect.

    Thank you for saying that.

    I think the Greens should say this more often. I think they would have a better chance of getting the policies they advocate with Labor than with the Coalition.

    Rather than the Greens doing the same-same thing, which just enables people to vote 1 Green and 2 Liberal, and think they are making a serious difference on climate change, if the Greens could ask for a first preference to show that people take climate change try seriously, but at the same time suggest peferencing Labor above the Coalition, I think the outcome would be better for the Greens achieving their policies.

    And would save us from 3 more years of Scott Bloody Morrison and his “Jenny wears a Sari and does Bollywood dancing crap”.

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