The latest Newspoll from The Australian finds Labor retaining its 53-47 two-party lead from three weeks ago, with both major parties steady on 39% of the primary vote, the Greens up one to 11% and One Nation steady on 3%. Scott Morrison has fallen into net negative approval for the first time since March last year, being down four points on approval to 47% and up the same amount on disapproval to 49%. Anthony Albanese is steady on both approval and disapproval at 38% and 46% respectively, and has narrowed Morrison’s lead on preferred prime minister from 51-33 to 49-36.
Also included are ratings for Scott Morrison’s handling of coronavirus in general, on which his good rating is down four points since last time to 48% and his poor rating is up four to 49%, and of the vaccine rollout in particular, on which he is down two to 38% and up two to 59%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1527.
VCT Et3e
For those of us who do not have numbered comments, I’m sorry but your posts are obscure.
Victoria records 11 new local COVID-19 cases as Joan Kirner Women’s and Children’s Hospital exposed
Victoria has recorded 11 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases.
All are linked to known outbreaks, but only one of those new cases was in quarantine while infectious.
They were detected from 38,987 test results processed on Sunday.
The Joan Kirner Women’s and Children’s Hospital at St Albans is among the latest exposure sites linked to the state’s Delta outbreak.
Western Health’s executive director of operations Natasha Toohey said in a statement a patient who visited the hospital last Friday had tested positive and contact tracing efforts were underway.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/victoria-new-covid-cases-delta-outbreak/100360766
Mavis @ #124 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 4:52 am
Why Was this war even started?
It’s not really like Vietnam, there the goal was to stop the communist from taking control, whilst in Afghanistan the Taliban were in power at the start and they will be again at the end.
VicGovDH
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The 11 new locally-acquired cases are all linked, and one has been in quarantine throughout their infectious period. [2/2]
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VicGovDH
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Reported yesterday: 11 new local cases and no new cases acquired overseas.
– 17,101 vaccine doses were administered
– 38,987 test results were received
More later: https://dhhs.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
#COVID19Vic #COVID19VicData [1/2]
PhoenixRed
All cases so far are linked.
Can we dare to dream that lockdown wont be extended beyond Thursday?
So you’ve read the ALP policy platform, Frednk. I did once; a while ago. Has it still got that bit in it about the “democratic socialisation of the means of production.” I quite liked that “light on the hill” stuff, even though nobody meant it.
It seems to me that the party platform is less than binding, and is not often adhered to by the parliamentary wing of the party. I accept that this is how it now works, but I fell that I can still be disappointed when Albanese, Marles and Wong back away from a call for transparency in relation to the receipt and use by business of Jobkeeper funds.
Mavis @ #149 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 8:27 am
Fireman Dutters suiting up.
Lizzie
I wonder who Jeff Kennett is blaming for the hawthorn members who want him to resign as president of the footy club?
He is a bona fide narcissist
Good, we are on track to get rid of ScuMo and his Gang….
Hmmm….
Interesting that there is a report out today about GladysB and the 5 million dollar grant.
Oops. Looking at article again.
Its 5.5 million
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Exclusive: Gladys Berejiklian intervened in $5.5 million grant pursued by Daryl Maguire
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@aljmcdonald
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@abc730
Gladys Berejiklian intervened in $5.5m grant pursued by Daryl Maguire
New documents released to the NSW Parliament have raised fresh questions over Gladys Berejiklian’s role in facilitating a grant that Daryl Maguire stood to gain a political benefit from.
abc.net.au
Stuart says:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 8:39 am
So you’ve read the ALP policy platform, Frednk. I did once; a while ago. Has it still got that bit in it about the “democratic socialisation of the means of production.” I quite liked that “light on the hill” stuff, even though nobody meant it.
It seems to me that the party platform is less than binding, and is not often adhered to by the parliamentary wing of the party. I accept that this is how it now works, but I fell that I can still be disappointed when Albanese, Marles and Wong back away from a call for transparency in relation to the receipt and use by business of Jobkeeper funds.
Long gone mate,long gone. Might do you well to actually read it instead of trying to find fault on how it is achieved.
‘Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 8:35 am
Mavis @ #124 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 4:52 am
[‘Taliban fighters seized most of the capital of northern Afghanistan’s key Kunduz province on Sunday, and took another neighbouring provincial capital after a month-long siege. The advances were the latest in a series of blows to government forces as US troops complete their pullout after nearly two decades in the country.’]
With Kabul likely to soon fall, the 20-year war in Afghanistan hasn’t really worked out the way the US and its allies had planned – shades of Vietnam:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/the-taliban-overrun-kunduz-third-provincial-capital-in-three-days-20210808-p58gyg.html
Why Was this war even started?
It’s not really like Vietnam, there the goal was to stop the communist from taking control, whilst in Afghanistan the Taliban were in power at the start and they will be again at the end.’
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Good question and good final observation, IMO. What WAS depressing was marching against this war with a very lonely band of protestors. What IS even more depressing is that we are sleepwalking to joining a war against China over Taiwan. Howard was a sleazebag toady crawling to Bush on Afghanistan. Morrison, a man who uses shitting his pants in Macca’s to distract from Covid, would do ANYTHING at all to distract from Covid. He is, in any case, surrounded by China War Hawks.
Stuart @ #128 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 7:17 am
Try not to be too precious about it.
It’s a simple choice.
Alpo @ #158 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 8:45 am
A track we went down a couple of years ago.
Watch out for pot-holes and boobytraps.
And interesting that there is very little gender difference re Morrison’s handling of COVID but govt net rating for vaccine rollout is a massive 14 points worse from female voters than male. #Newspoll”
I’d suggest more women have experience of what a vaccine rollout or any other health campaign looks like? More working in health, and more mothers involved in vaccinating their kids than fathers. Women head to their GPs more often than men in general? Pure speculation.
The name and whereabouts of the guy who sexually assaulted are tightly sealed like never before. Why is it? I understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty. But that did not stop many of theLabor, Liberal, Nats, Greens MPs being exposed or talked about.
We have not seen him when he is charged.
Can anybody explain why so much secrecy surrounds. LNP is dragged in the mud, PM name is besmirched but there is absolutely no backgrounding of him. Whereas the backgrounding of Higgins boyfriend, Higgins, Banks, Joyce, Gladys and Joyce’s girlfriend was aplenty. Why so much secrecy about this guy? Just wondering.
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Murdoch is quietly scrubbing incriminating Covid-19 misinformation videos from websites ahead of a grilling by the Senate on Friday. Dozens of videos have vanished with no correction or apology for spreading dangerous lies. But don’t worry; we have copies. #MurdochRoyalCommission
Ven
The alleged perpetrator name and image was reported on the nightly news here in Melbourne.
Comments from his lawyer were also reported.
That basically he was not guilty of the crime etc.
@Barney, Marvis:
Middle East Observer
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Police cars revolving light Israeli military official: We are on the brink of a regional war against Iran.
Murdoch engaging in no small amount of cancel culture, I see.
Victoria @ #160 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 8:47 am
Wagga Wagga gained from the feds as well. Don’t forget that. The Prime Minister for NSW was prepared to help out NSW in any way if needed.
lizzie @ #150 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 8:30 am
Yes. Almost to the point of being meaningless.
Victoria
“Oops. Looking at article again.
Its 5.5 million”
That is why I posted it earlier. That is a lot of money to give to a country shooting club (in a single town).
You could build a building for that. Who would own it?
Murdoch is quietly scrubbing incriminating Covid-19 misinformation videos from websites ahead of a grilling by the Senate on Friday. Dozens of videos have vanished with no correction or apology for spreading dangerous lies. But don’t worry; we have copies.
The future task to remove all the climate disinformation will be much bigger…
Gladys Berejiklian intervened in $5.5m grant pursued by Daryl Maguire
7.30 / By Paul Farrell and Alex McDonald
Posted 3h ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/gladys-berejiklian-daryl-maguire-grant-intervention-letter/100354146
Socrates
Thanks. I reposted it due to fact I had quoted incorrect figure.
There are obviously games afoot. GladysB had better watch out.
Vic,
The Solicitor said,
“My client absolutely and unequivocally denies that any form of sexual activity, whatsoever, took place at all,” Mr Korn said on Friday night.
“He will be defending this charge.”
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7374818/man-charged-with-raping-brittany-higgins-to-protest-innocence/
Well that is one less Trump media booster for the 2024 election campaign. Sad but I’ll get over it.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-vaxx-radio-host-and-former-newsmax-anchor-dick-farrel-dies-of-coronavirus?source=twitter&via=desktop
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Mr. Newbiesays:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 6:05 am
The Australian public (if these polls are to be believed) are fools for forgetting/forgiving our Prime Minister-in-Hiding’s response to the bushfires last year. While I think it’s dead certain that this COVID mess will not be ‘over’ by the next election, have they really wised up much since then?
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No people did not forget lastyear bushfires if you look at the results of Eden-Monaro( one of most affected areas of busfires) by-election result, which was conducted after COVID was successfully suppressed last year.
GG
Thanks. I couldn’t recall the name of the Solicitor.
lizzie @ #147 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 8:24 am
Remind me how many hundreds of paid social media functionaries and media advisers in general the Coalition have? Not to mention that the Victorian Liberals would not be averse to helping their state-based mates.
Honestly, it’s not a very smart tactic to lay into social media defenders of Dan Andrews because, if anyone has a sophisticated understanding of Twitter et al, then they would know that you don’t stir up the hornet’s nest by saying something provocative in a Tweet, or other kind of social media post, because it will come back with double the strength of what you are complaining about. 😀
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Bird of paradoxsays:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 1:27 am
Loris, from the last thread:
Bird of paradox is a real charmer. Liberal staffer?
Just convinces me even more there is something in the vaccine distribution.
Nope – Green/Labor voter from WA. (Green in WA 2021 – genuinely undecided, until Briefly convinced me to vote Green. Ask him for his campaigning skills sometime!)
I hate Libs (and CDP, FF etc) a lot and
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You voted for Greens based on what N posted on this blog. Seriously?
And you say you are against conspiracy theorists?
Barney in Tanjung Bunga:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 8:35 am
Mavis @ #124 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 4:52 am
[‘Why Was this war even started?’]
The reason, so the story goes, was to counter Al Qaeda which was seeking sanctuary in Afghanistan, in the wake of 9/11.
[‘It’s not really like Vietnam, there the goal was to stop the communist from taking control, whilst in Afghanistan the Taliban were in power at the start and they will be again at the end.’]
Well, it could be argued that the ends were similar in both conflicts/wars, those ends being to stop Al Qaeda from taking a foothold & regrouping in Afghanistan, presumably under the auspices of the Taliban; and, in the case of Vietnam, to stop the no-good Commies from overthrowing a government, propped up by Uncle Sam. That said, both conflicts served no useful purpose – Vietnam united and the Taliban are almost back in control.
Socrates @ #177 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 9:12 am
You wonder how long it will be before the Repugs and their media shyster boosters wake up to the fact that Delta comes for the unvaccinated with a vengeance?
Steve777 @ #174 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 9:10 am
Not sure how long that Senate Enquiry into Murdoch will run, but it may limit how rabid they can get before the coming election. Thanks Kevin for that much at least
Mavis
What a shame for that story that Bin Laden had been under virtual house arrest for several months before the invasion and the Taliban offered to hand him over if the US showed them evidence Osama was involved in 9/11 . Information that the government of the 3 war crims Dubya+Cheney+Rummy kept secret until a couple of years after the invasion.
Cat
I think Mr Farrel is a strong candidate for a Darwin Award this year. Tragically another Republican candidate in Texas also died of Covid a week ago. I’ll save my tears for the poor saps who died believing their anti-vax lies.
Socrates @ #186 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 9:22 am
Exactly. The most important ‘Freedom’ we should all expect is the freedom not to be infected with dangerous lies being spread by a political party and their stooges whose only guiding ‘principle’ is their lust for power.
And the ‘freedom’ not to be infected with COVID-19 by the people who listen to them. 🙂
Covid is a left wing conspiracy to attack our way of life!
That’s why we gotta resist masks, and vaccines, and lockdowns! Heck, we’ll open up Australia as soon as possible and that’ll show those lefties what for! They won’t even know what hit them!
Israel is now restricting travel very heavily once again and deaths are up to an average of 9 per day.
Certain people here some weeks ago were saying they have reached herd immunity. I don’t think so now.
Zerlo:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:01 am
[‘@Barney, Marvis:
Middle East Observer
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Police cars revolving light Israeli military official: We are on the brink of a regional war against Iran.’]
And people thought Netanyahu was hawkish. I think Biden will intervene.
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mundo:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 8:41 am
[‘Fireman Dutters suiting up.’]
Perhaps but with the change of rules for Tory regime change, he’d need the support of two-thirds of his pals to dislodge Morrison from the Lodge.
Just had a look at the comments on the Herald Sun reporting on the Newspoll.
Nearly 50% negative to ScoMo in the Hun – they must be after him gone – a few mentions of Dutton or the Liberal Democrats. Would they actually run candidates in Vic?
michael
Israel are now looking at giving the population, a booster shot.
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Mavissays:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 7:19 am
Described as Morrison’s “spiritual mentor”, Pastor Houston faces 2 years in the slammer if convicted for failing to report child sexual abuse; five, if his alleged failure involved an inducement. Given he was born in New Zealand, and depending on whether he’s an Oz citizen, if convicted he would face deportation on character grounds.
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I am not gambler except putting some bets on office sweep stakes for a few Melbourne cups for fun sake.
But I want to wager a bet that he will not be convicted. Not because the case is weak but because powerful religious people bare not. What about Pell you say. His conviction is squashed isn’t it? I resty case. 🙂
Greensborough Growler @ #177 Monday, August 9th, 2021 – 7:12 am
So she just got naked on the couch all by herself! 😆
Bloody heck BK. Look up. What is that up in the air? It is a stunning blue colour stretching from horizon to horizon. And that incredible bright round thing that is warming up the day? What are these miracles?
“ Maximus Decimatus Virudius”
Something that struck me at the time that I first saw Gladiator: how exactly could anyone in the Roman world have three cognomen, but no first name, or surname according to the Roman order of naming …Romans (by which I mean any Roman citizen – whether a native of the eternal city, or the Italian peninsula or from a colony, such as in Spain, as Rusty’s character hailed).
I think Israel is only at ~60% fully vaccinated. Herd immunity for covid is estimated to require anywhere from 70% to 90%, but we still don’t really know for sure.
Our government says 60% to 70%, who knows why. Seems like wishful thinking to me.
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C@tmommasays:
Monday, August 9, 2021 at 7:26 am
A couple more comments from that news.com.au article which I think gauges the temperature of the gen pub across the spectrum pretty well:
Al
10 hours ago
Gladys – NSW’s Gladiator: Maximus Decimatus Virudius. We will prevail!
Deborah
20 hours ago
Gladys works her butt off for the people of nsw. Who wants her to work 24/7? You are so unreasonable. Let’s be honest: The Premier merely follows the medical advice to the letter. She has put all safeguards in place, as advised by the medical experts, and she is entitled to a day off. Are you crazy?
It’s why I’m not getting too excited about any poll results right now. If, even in the depths of their incompetence, people will still stand up and find a way to make apologies for the Premier, and the Prime Minister, then you just have to know the election isn’t over until Antony Green calls it.
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I will add a corollary to that. Not until last vote is counted and EC declares results for each seat. 🙂