Roy Morgan has produced its second federal poll in a fortnight, and will hopefully make a regular habit of this going forward. The poll credits Labor with a bare lead of 50.5-49.5 (Morgan’s rounding being done to increments of half a percentage point), down from 51-49 last time. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up 1.5% to 41.5%, Labor is down half a point to 34.5%, the Greens are up half a point to 12% and One Nation is up half a point to 3.5%. State two-party breakdowns have the Coalition leading 51-49 in New South Wales, 56-44 in Queensland and 52-48 in Western Australia, but with Labor leading 55-45 in Victoria, 52-48 in South Australia and 57-43 in Tasmania.
The poll was conducted by telephone and online surveys over the previous two weekends from a sample of 2782. Since we will presumably be hearing more from Morgan in future, it’s worth pointing out that the company is not a member of the Australian Polling Council, and thus does not observe the standards of transparency demanded of its code of conduct.
Other news:
• Peter Law of The West Australian reports that Labor’s candidate for the key Perth seat of Swan will be Zaneta Mascarenhas, an engineer who runs an energy management consultancy. This comes after the state party’s Left-dominated administration committee blocked the nomination of the only other contender, former South Perth councillor Fiona Reid, on the grounds she had run as an independent candidate at the 2017 state election, to the displeasure of the Right faction Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association. Mascarenhas is aligned with the Left faction Australian Manufacturing Workers’ Union. The West’s report also relates that Tania Lawrence, a manager at Woodside who ran unsuccessfully for Labor in Darling Range at a state by-election in 2018, is the party’s only nominee in the seat of Hasluck.
• Pollster John Utting has told The West Australian that his recent polling leads him to expect that Labor will win Swan and possibly Pearce. He also believes that Labor will “probably” win the election off the back of wins in Chisholm, Boothby, Longman and potentially Leichhardt, Braddon and Bass, although they could potentially lose Eden-Monaro and Macquarie. Utting has polled extensively for Labor and provided polling for The West Australian five months out from the March state election that had the measure of the eventual result.
• Roxanne Fitzgerald of the ABC reports a complaint has been lodged with the Human Rights Commission accusing the Australian Electoral Commission of discrimination against indigenous voters, having failed to provide sufficient polling facilities to remote communities and directly enrol people who do not receive mail at a residential address. The complainants are Matthew Ryan, mayor of West Arnhem Regional Council, and Ross Mandi, chairman of Yalu Aboriginal Corporation in Galiwinku, with the support of the Maritime Union of Australia and the United Workers Union.
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:29 pm
Lots of assumptions there. And you know what they say about making assumptions.
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Something about headstones being freshly steam cleaned? 😛
I don’t use the app. I just use the barcode and the web page. Used to be easier. Now its a tad annoying.
Good design should involve a tap and a scan and that’s it.
What the government could have done is distribute tiny wifi beacons to shops and other locations. Your app then simply notes the ID of the wifi beacon (no need to establish an actual connection) and then transmits the time and ID to a central server. This way you don’t have to do anything but install the app.
Yes, this is physical tracking, but had it been implemented and sold well, it would have been powerful and accurate.
I’m often embarrassed by my profession. Never more so than this:
“ At least four members of the High Court are nothing much more than an extension of the Morrison Government’s dogma, under the guise of a “black-letter” approach to their role as judges.
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/high-court-finds-that-indefinite-detention-is-lawful-to-governments-delight/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=week-27”
As a lawyer I ‘get’ administrative detention. As a human being I just cant ‘get’ indefinite detention not being punitive.
I suggest that the four members of the High Court comprising the majority put themselves in a spot of administrative detention on Christmas Island for at least a year, and then after the first anniversary permit their continuing detention to be determined by a simple game of chance – and then – after perhaps another five years they might have the basic empathy and decency to rewrite their judgements correctly.
What happened the day after Three Days Of The Condor?
Lars
There’s always a fortnight delay between preselection and announcement, to give time for any issues to do with the candidate to be sorted.
No apologies from Gold Plated Gladys for the delay in announcing a 14 day lockdown in greater Sydney. Apparently it’s all the fault of the CMO.
I have to say that Chants mixed messaging the other day left me questioning the processes under her control.
Victoria @ #1803 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 10:24 am
John Faine and others make the big mistake of framing it as “NSW denouncing Victoria”. That was never the case. It was Murdoch denouncing a popular Labor government, and if that came as a surprise to anyone then I presume they haven’t been paying attention for the last 25 years.
There was never any denouncing of the Vic population at large. Not sure that favour’s being returned, but I never really expected it to be.
Lars Von Trier @ #1950 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 12:51 pm
Construe it however you want.
Warning this is from Daily Terror
@ByClare tweets
Health Minister Brad Hazzard attacking press pack for being “journalists” not “epidemiologists” when questioned why the NSW public health orders didn’t properly mandate mask wearing etc for private drivers transporting international air crew. He changed the orders on Friday
I spoke to drivers who work for Transport for NSW, which looks after the passengers, last week and they confirmed they had never seen the private drivers undertake the same stringent measures (N95 masks, constant deep cleaning of vehicles, not handling passengers’ luggage)
Hazzard’s response to my story with @jmodoh. “Drivers and workers who are picking up people from the airport have very clear guidelines expressed by the police to them through management. It is disappointing that apparently a small number did not comply.”
Hazzard: “You cannot legislate for stupidity.” Says the changes to public health order have now put in “black and white” law the requirements, which are enforceable by police. Limo driver considered index case for Bondi cluster can’t be charged though as it pre-dates changes.
citizen @ #1949 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:00 pm
Perhaps Gladys should launch an independent judicial inquiry into the circumstances leading to this two week lockdown …?
ItzaDream @ #1850 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 11:16 am
Thanks
Rex Douglas @ #1957 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:03 pm
Agree that she looked completely rattled at the 11am press conference. The choice of venue didn’t help.
But it’s now pretty obvious that that was just a filler for the big announcement later on, and she was woefully ill-prepared for the first one.
guytaur says:
Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 11:19 am
N
No you miss the point.
Climate change trumps the man made constructs of economics.
A field failing the human race as it does not count the cost of environmental damage.
Instead we have to make regulations to restrain the damage pure capitalism including Keynesian economic thought makes.
Economics has to go back to the drawing board. It’s theories are a danger to the planet.
That’s why Stern and Garnaut doing their best have failed.
I cheer on the G7 but am under no illusions about how economical theory has led to the existential threat to the human race.
You clearly do not understand what economics is, nor what theorising consists of. Economics is essentially attempting to answer questions about some aspects of human behaviour. It is a study.
Economists get blamed for lots of things. But economists do not determine the behaviour of people. They really only try to comprehend, describe and explain behaviours. The ideologues are the ones who seek to control others, usually for self-interested purposes. Fairly often, ideologues pretend they’re economists. But ideology is not a form of inquiry or study. It is quite the opposite.
Climate change will have many impacts. They will include economic consequences. Economists will try to understand and describe these. That does not mean that economics is responsible for climate change. Far from it. The study of economies is no more responsible for the facts of economic activity than the study of music is responsible for melody and rhythm.
Spray
That was not the experience of us who lived through it.
And from what I have gleaned so far, Sydneysiders took a while to take this outbreak seriously themselves.
No doubt related to the fact that they believed the bullshit that somehow NSW was gold standard and Victoria well you know.
And the fact that GLadysB proved herself corrupt during this ICAC hearings, doesn’t fill me with confidence about her judgment.
For people who like real music and not pretentious waffle from the 17th century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4
The unwinnable War?.
The British found that out in 1842
A British incursion into Afghanistan ended in disaster in 1842 when an entire British army, while retreating back to India, was massacred. Only a single survivor made it back to British-held territory. It was assumed the Afghans let him live to tell the story of what had happened.
Recon @ #1953 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 12:54 pm
Oh that’s right, you love bringing up mistakes which have been corrected, as if they never were. And as if you’ve never made any yourself and so have arrogated unto yourself the right to point others’ out. Oh, and the headstone had been steam-cleaned so the writing on it could be clearly read and photographed. Fair enough. It just happened here in Australia instead. Oh well, it seems to have titillated you to bring it back up I guess.
Victoria @ #1965 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:08 pm
Really? Were you seeing messages from Sydneysiders that were unsupportive of the Victorian public, as opposed to the government? Can’t say I saw any of that, but if you did it’s very disappointing.
I recall how stridently you (and others) objected to anyone from outside Victoria commenting on the Victorian situation. Would you apply the same principle to the NSW outbreak?
It’s all happening …!!
N
I clearly do.
You clearly do not acknowledge the failure of economic theory.
You are a religious zealot wedded to a cult by not acknowledging the basic flaws in economic theory. Especially when it’s an existential threat to the planet.
You have a lot of company. That’s where the politics comes in.
Edit: I emphasise the basic.
Spray
I don’t expect you to understand what Victorians had to endure during our big lockdown.
Two weeks is a piece of cake. Hopefully that is all you guys will need.
I suppose it’s no use asking Scotty.
* The Chicken and Beer Festival is cancelled
This is serious, mum! 😯
Spray
And btw it is really easy for those in NSW to comment on what we victorians should be feeling at the time.
I can tell you it was never helpful or good.
So spare me the NSW sanctimony.
Watching the WA govt response on ABC 24.
Was kind of expecting something, but related to the NY miners thing. This one related to Sydney. 🙁
So, we have limited restrictions for now, but will have to wait and see. Bugger. I have a bunch of students i am supposed to put in a bus to go on a teaching field trip up north on Friday. 🙁
And the reason in particular was that Victorians despite the push back and commentary from all and sundry, took the advice of our CHO and Govt.
We did the hard yards to protect the rest of the country, and we were treated like a pariah state,
I won’t forget it that is for sure.
And no gaslighting by anyone is going to change that
Victoria @ #1972 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:16 pm
I have immediate family in Melbourne, so I have some idea. You’ll recall (I hope) that I was totally supportive of the Victorian response, even when some of our Victorian posters were trying to cheer for a NSW outbreak.
The division created between the states has been a sad artefact of this pandemic. Ultimately I think it can be traced back to the lack of leadership at the Federal level.
N
Just after the graph of supply and demand is where the theories go off the rails.
The market needs an environment to exist in.
The costs of supply to meet that demand are not factored in.
Marx recognised this with labour and social costs but came up with a terrible solution ignoring the power seeking part of human nature.
Victoria @ #1975 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:18 pm
Was this a deliberate effort to completely miss my point?
Spray, there is a type of Victorian, and it’s not all of us by any means, who have a bizarre hatred for Sydney. It’s not in the jokey way that some have, it is an ingrained meanness about anything to do with Sydney. Nothing good can be acknowledged about the place and everything is derided. I think it’s got something to do with jealousy for the Harbour and the natural beauty you find around it.
And who knows what the outcome of the flight attendant being infectious on flights up and down the east coast.
Yep NSW gave us Ruby princess, and now this. All due to the bullshit that somehow GladysB took health advice as to when to lockdown.
If anyone wants to believe that crapola, I have a bridge to sell you.
Spray
I am not blaming her personally, and she did the right thing by not naming the couple.
But the same curtesy was not extended by her to the limo driver – she had quite a swipe at him on Thursday when he went public about believing that he may have caught COVID at a cafe. The way she spoke about him was reprehensible. And why was his identity given to the media? And why have channel 7 not be charged with stalking and intimidation?
If the limo driver does not end up with serious mental health problems it will be a surprisingly good outcome.
And I felt the same way when Jenny Mikalos, the former Victorian Health minister in February 2020 blamed a GP for going to work and spreading the virus with the Aspen outbreak.
p.s. I had a lot of time for her up until the comments on Thursday, and so know she is working under a lot of pressure.
Recon
As usual you have nothing of value to contribute.
I actually love visiting Sydney and the harbour.
This COVID shit show has absolutely nothing to do with that of course,
Recon and Spray
There is also a core of very superior Sydneysiders who look down on Melbourne, and say so.
Recon @ #1981 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:22 pm
Well there you go. Yet I love visiting Melbourne, taking in all it has to offer. And just like everywhere else, the people are great.
Almost makes you wonder whether social media is sometimes not a reflection of the real world?
Is there a link to support this accusation ??
I’ve never seen such comments and feel that is an outrageous undocumented slur.
Spray
What was your point really?
So your bizarre propaganda work for the Vic gov and constant derision against the NSW gov is just purely party political and not based upon any weird expression of regional identity politics? Ok I can buy that.
guytaur says:
Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:14 pm
N
I clearly do.
You clearly do not acknowledge the failure of economic theory.
You are a religious zealot wedded to a cult by not acknowledging the basic flaws in economic theory. Especially when it’s an existential threat to the planet.
You have a lot of company. That’s where the politics comes in.
Edit: I emphasise the basic.
What flaws are you thinking of? There is a lot of economic theory. A lot of it is obsolete, but that is in the nature of theory. The theory of economics is not responsible for the combustion of fossil fuels. It might help replace fossil fuels with renewables, but by itself economics cannot change the energy system.
I studied resource and environmental economics. This includes the study of “values” that are not market-determined, but which are “external” to the market. It includes examples of “market failure”, among which the costs of climate change should be most prominently included.
You do not know what you’re talking about, as usual.
Rex Douglas says:
Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:27 pm
…even when some of our Victorian posters were trying to cheer for a NSW outbreak.
Is there a link to support this accusation ??
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There was a bit of that about the morning of the lockdown, I don’t actually think it was confined to Victorians. It seemed to be just certain Labor partisans.
lizzie @ #1979 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:27 pm
There was a video floating around the last couple of days of a recent radio interview with Kyle Sandilands and Gladys which looking back at now is not favourable to them both.
Victoria @ #1989 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:27 pm
Mainly that the people of NSW are not your enemy.
“ And why have channel 7 not be charged with stalking and intimidation?”
Why indeed. Bruz, Bruz? Can you help us out?
From the (what looks like) couple of hundred contact sites, including restaurants, cinemas, weddings, parties and a multitude of supermarkets, it seems Sydney people swallowed the Kool-aid about Gladys setting The Gold Standard, having some kind of magic touch, wearing an invisibility cloak preventing the virus from seeing 5 million unvaccinated people ready to be infected.
lizzie @ #1988 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:27 pm
Yep. Trying to make generalisations and turn them into slurs of valued posters here, as recon-structed nath is doing, is just being divisive. That’s how he rolls though.
Recon
It’s not a NSW v Victoria battle. It’s a political approach to evidence battle. Including media.
It’s the same forces that came up with carbon tax to discredit competent results and boost the incompetent response.
It’s the same players but a different issue
Rex Douglas
Yes a few weeks ago GladysB was espousing what a different approach NSW has taken say compared to Victoria and other places.
Frankly embarrassing and unhelpful.
Looks like a lot of egg meet face right about now.
Rex Douglas @ #1993 Sunday, June 27th, 2021 – 1:29 pm
If you want to judge NSW folk based on Kyle Sandilands, can we assume that all Victorians are like Sam Newman?
(I’m kidding obviously. Well aware that every state has its designated share of f’wits).