The Australian has published the concluding quarterly set of aggregated Newspoll breakdowns for the year, showing results by state, gender, age, education, income, language and religion.
The results have the Coalition leading 51-49 in New South Wales, a two point shift to the Coalition since last quarter; Labor leading 55-45 in Victoria, a one point shift to the Coalition; the Coalition leading 57-43 in Queensland, a two point shift to Labor; the Coalition leading 53-47 in Western Australia, a one point shift to Labor; and the Coalition leading 51-49 in South Australia, a one point shift to the Coalition.
The Australian’s report leads with Labor’s weak position among men, but the gender breakdowns are in fact unchanged on last time with the Coalition leading 53-47 among men and Labor leading 51-49 among women. Labor’s lead among the 18-to-34 cohort widens from 58-42 to 61-39, but there is now a tie among the 35-to-49 cohort after Labor lead 53-47 last time. The Coalition’s leads among the older cohorts are little changed, at 55-45 among 50-to-64 and 62-38 among 65-plus.
The recorded gap between English speakers and those who speak a different language at home has narrowed slightly, with the Coalition’s lead among the former going from 52-48 to 51-49 and Labor’s lead among the latter narrowing from 56-44 to 54-46. The other breakdowns record no notable pattern of change: two-party splits vary little by education (although education associates positively with Greens support and negatively with One Nation support); there is no great variation by income until the $150,000-plus cohort, which broke 55-45 for the Coalition; and Christians breaking 59-41 for the Coalition, while those of no religion going 57-43 to Labor.
The results are compiled from YouGov’s Newspoll surveys from August to November, from a combined sample of 8123.
Having bagged the likes of Fitzgibbon, I do not pretend that his LNP competitors are any better than paid hacks of business lobbies. Some actually believe their tripe about free markets solving everything.
As BK said on Tony Abbott:
“ Tony Abbott (remember him?) says, “With the pandemic still inhibiting daily life and generating almost unimaginable public spending, even from governments of the centre-right, this is a dispiriting time for those wanting government that’s smaller, tax that’s lower and freedom that’s greater.”
So in the middle of a world wide crisis that has only been solved in the countries that have had major public sector interventions, Tony Abbott still cannot let go of his ideology? And millions in USA are in dire need due to lack of government assistance. Call that freedom? IMO Abbott is not fully sane. He is as much a fanatic as cold war communists.
ajm @ #50 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 9:27 am
Um, focussing on the jobs and welfare of people in the regions is actually the strategy that might work.
Talking to these people in a way that builds trust and does not frighten them to safer Liberal harbours is a strategy that might work also.
Maybe you should come up with some ideas that might achieve those objectives.
I’m all ears, comrade.
rhwombat @ #49 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 9:27 am
For a doctor, your bedside manner needs some work imho.
Socrates
We didn’t see the snake at all, but the vet went ahead with treatment “as if” it was a snake bite, and by 7 pm confirmed it was a tiger, apparently from the coagulation test, which was “off the charts”. I am trying not to think of the cost, which will be over $5000, so there goes my little bathroom renovation this year!
Meanwhile, the dogs’ little fenced garden will be off limits for a while, until I work out what to do.
GG
I agree with you on the strategy needed for rgions but, to be clear after my Christmas day conversations with extended family, nobody in regional Qld thinks coal will supply them the jobs they need right now. Promoting coal and gas projects won’t fool anyone there now. China has pulled the rug out from under that illusion, not climate change. Backing coal will only temporarily help a minority of those with existing jobs. It won’t help the young and unemployed.
It will be very interesting to see the next unemployment figures from that state or region. They won’t be pretty.
Chores to do, have a good day all.
Greensborough Growler @ #52 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 8:31 am
Fitzgibbon isn’t talking about that. He’s just saying we should keep the steaming coal industry going for ever. A shill, pure and simple.
The great white shark was full of praise of the Trump presidency when he posted that snap on the beach. He might have been great for your business interests, Greg. However there is so much more to life than the balance sheets of the top 1% and making them bigger. The health, wellbeing and safety of the whole of society should be somewhere at the top of your priority list as the health of the people and the planet that which we are upon can then impact upon you personally and drag you down.
Promising jobs, wealth , security or a future from the coal industry is swimming against the tide of economic and scientific pragmatism.
Ths Coal Age has transformed our world however our world has moved on. The future and the abundant possibilities without coal are being pursued by wealth creators.
Promising coal jobs or coal power generation may enable the likes of Fitzgibbon another term and the benefits of the gravy train but the likes of Morrison will follow the money.
Most of today’s argy-bargy about coal, jobs, money and climate will be irrelevant at a faster pace than the next election types are shouting about.
Fitzgibbon and the horse named Coal are a slow horse in a fast race.
Remember the race to the moon?
Remember manual petrol cars?
Remember Newspapers ?
Remember double brick houses?
Remember getting shoes repaired?
Remember scavenging at ths tip?
Remember Joel Fitzgibbon, Simon Crean, Kim Beasley or the multitude of past National Party deputy PMs?
Barnaby thinks he’s the future FFS!
Morrison remains PM despite of all his faults.
Morrison remains PM because he’s on the money.
Climate change is however having something to say about Morrison.
China is just starting to say something about Morrison.
Technology is bounding ahead regardless of anyone and existing predilection.
Morrison has achieved what Morrison wants for Morrison.
Robb showed how far people will transgress to achieve.
Albo the great is just that.
The next leader from either side of Parliament will possess the only quality that matters, that if I vote I will be better off.
At the moment, the lying political grafter is in front because the polls have not altered in any significant measurement.
The good news is that the next leader could be a great one!
Greensborough Growler says:
Saturday, December 26, 2020 at 9:24 am
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Try thinking of solutions that don’t just pander to your prejudices that might work.
Out of curiosity, what exactly is the solution that Fitzgibbon is suggesting?
Socrates @ #55 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 9:38 am
So, if Coal is “doomed” why does Labor need to be promoting solutions to problems that either don’t exist or will take care of themself in time?
In promoting anti-coal policies all Labor does is make themself a target for all the anger and rhetoric.
Did you ask your friends why they think Labor struggles in the regions?
I’ve said before that the LNP have won the last three elections with no Energy/Environment policy. Labor simply needs to agree to the 2050 targets and let the market take care of itself. Making themself a target is a vote loser.
Goll:
I still get shoes (and clothes) repaired where I can rather than buy another pair. There should be more of it IMO as we live in such a throwaway society these days.
“Did it ever occur to you he nearly lost his seat for reason other than coal, people don’t vote for incompetence , and his nonsense is just a bigger and better display of that incompetence.”
GG
Fredk has summed it up well. Fitzgibbon is all jaw here in Hunter.
He’s been creatively and innovatingly dead lazy. The seat has been too safe for too long.
We need a new spark not an old fossil to represent us.
frednk @ #59 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 9:50 am
Try engaging instead of threatening the people you want to vote for you is the beginning of the journey. Once voters trust you one one issue you will listen to you about other matters.
I’m putting forward some ideas for discussion. I’m not seeing much but abuse of Fitzgibbon and well rehearsed but meaningless rhetoric in return.
How about you put some workable alternatives
lizzie says:
Saturday, December 26, 2020 at 9:02 am
PvO says that Josh Frydenberg may be “too nice” to be Lib leader. Does that mean thta he has been too spineless to stand up against Morrison? Because if not, and he really believes in all the harsh punitive measures, I don’t call that “nice”.
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Lizzie
My take on that is Josh isn’t as nasty as some of his colleagues towards certain groups but PvO is probably right about him being the clear successor to Scott Morrison.
Dutton has had a shocking year and Porter is a non-entity with few other notables and even less on the backbench. This is vary different to the Howard government which had plenty of talent on the front and backbench.
frednk
No “solution” needed as ………………….
https://www.cessnockadvertiser.com.au/story/6890198/juggling-act-fitzgibbon-calls-for-policy-balance-over-climate-coal/
Greensborough Growler @ #60 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 8:57 am
a. Speed is of the essence in limiting global heating.
b. Leaving adjustment to “the market” will be very painful for a lot of the people Labor aspires to represent.
c. Your reading must be very limited if you don’t realise all the things that Labor is doing at state level and proposing at Federal level to speed the transition. If Fitzgibbon was concentrating on promoting all those good things rather than taking potshots at people trying to craft a way through I might think he is genuine.
Off for the morning walk…………… 26 and cloudy in Brisvegas
Test cricket. Hurrah. I hope Mr. Whatsisname is busy elsewhere today.
1600 steps today mowing. The physio ladies would be very pleased. I got to frighten the lorikeets and pat a very friendly dog walking with a young lady. What could be better than that ❓ 🐕
My friend in Frydenberg’s electorate can tell you that he is not “nice”. If he doesn’t agree with you – then he ignores you. It is impossible to get across the message that multiculturalism is a valuable characteristic. Often the “minorities” can be intolerant of diversity!
Greensborough Growler @ #53 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 9:33 am
Yep. It’s my Palliative Care training. Get well soon…
KayJay @ #67 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:16 am
Happy Boxing Day, KayJay.
There’s a reason why Christmas is only ever referred to in the Spray household as Boxing Day Eve.
Enjoy.
Did I just hear correctly that David Boon is match referee? I didn’t realise he’d become an umpire.
Not an umpire, a match referee. Off-field role only.
If Joel scored a big swing in the face of what else happened at the last election then maybe he would be the solution but he barely held on which tells me he isn’t the solution.
As i see it the ALP’s problem is what is its purpose and who does it represent. This can be summed up by the question what is the ALP’s left flank?
The ALP seems to be out of touch with modern Australia and this can be seen by how the ALP communicates with the electorate but this comes back to something i’ve said many times before. The ALP just can’t talk the language of money without retorting to the rich or top end of town.
We saw this with the reaction to the idea of Eddie running for parliament and while i don’t see him as PM material but he is closer to middle Australia than many on the left would dare to admit and this is the problem with the left because while the left is good at seeing problems they are near on hopeless at finding solutions without simply finding a new tax to hit people it sees as rich or greedy.
Regardless of what one thinks of MMT but the ALP needs to read the first two chapters of Stephanie’s Kelton’s The Deficit Myth. In those chapters Kelton explains how government budgets work and within that she offers the ALP a pathway to end its outdated approach of campaigning against the so called rich.
The irony of the ALP’s problems is the success at state level where a number of ALP leaders have run middle of the road campaigns to score substantial wins while still being proud of their union mates and leading progressive governments.
This is where the ALP’s problem is because its campaigns at federal elections on state issues yet if the states already have ALP governments the message becomes confused.
Confessions
I agree.
But most throw away because its an economic decision.
Its a waste and greedy.
Even ths colection agencies throw away most of the clothes, shoes and appliances they receive. Its an economic decision.
Anything you would like to throw away is best sent to a school in Papua New Guinea. It wil cost you the postage.
Pick a school , any school, any village, any region, any province and what ever you send will be put to use and not wasted.
Vale John Edrich
One of those great players who stared down the fastest and most dangerous bowlers in the twilight of their careers without much protection
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/25/john-edrich-obituary
shellbell @ #75 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:30 am
Indeed. Stood up valiantly to Lillee and Thommo. RIP.
Too funny.
A car bomb goes off in Nashville and nobody gets hurt. FBI, police, political leaders spring into action. All resources will be used to find the perpetrators. Every TV screen in the US is lit up with “Breaking News” flash screens. It is a national outrage.
Meanwhile…
3,500 people per day die of a disease whose worst effects can be mitigated with simple, cheap measures like wearing masks, social distancing and basic personal hygiene practices. Hundreds of thousands are infected in the same time. Every day. 7 days a week.
Incredibly, millions believe this disease does not even exist, and that their real enemies hide in massive underground bunkers, sucking the blood of kidnapped children, funded by dead South American despots, tech billionaires and Jew bankers.
As I said: too funny.
Bit awkward. Match starting late because the Wurundjeri woman went on a bit. Oh well, good luck to her.
sprocket_ @ #NaN Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 8:26 am
Um, Greggy, Covid is f***ing you. 🙂
Goll:
I’ve also donated surplus stuff to this outfit:
https://www.selfmadeic.com/
Spray
And Holding, Roberts in 1976
ajm @ #66 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:13 am
The Covid pandemic shows that by and large, the States are responsible for delivering change in this country.
I can’t recall any State Government running an election campaign on Carbon Neutrality by 2050. Most would have imposed it from Government.
The LNP don’t have a policy. They win Elections. Labor does but loses Election.
So, I am unconvinced that having an Energy Policy is more a hindrance than a help to winning elections in this country.
All your earnest rhetoric doesn’t change that.
Some of the gibbons here might want to read this article. Coal is not an important industry to Australia. It supports very few people, contributes next to nothing to our national economy, and no matter what happens, will not be a part of our future …
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/23/stop-believing-in-fairy-tales-australias-coal-industry-doesnt-employ-many-people-or-pay-its-fair-share-of-tax
It’s time for Australians to grow up and face the truth …
PlayerOne
The problem with that article is it misses the point that while Coal is statistically a small industry but in many regional centers it is seen as being a apart of that community. Broken Hill will always be connected to BHP even if that company has little remaining connection to that town. Just telling people to change has never been a successful political strategy.
Greensborough Growler @ #82 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:39 am
You are wrong in claiming the LNP has no policy, just as you are wrong in claiming that Labor has one.
No-one is in any doubt what the LNP policy is, whether they actually announce one or not … but you try asking even Labor partisans what the current Federal Labor policy is.
Successive Boxing Day ducks for Burns.
This folly should end soon.
Mexicanbeemer @ #84 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:48 am
The point of the article is that this is actually a mistaken belief, except for a very small number of people in a small number of regions.
Pretty good rock though Shellbell.
PlayerOne
Yep there are only about a dozen coal based electorates and in some cases its only a small part.
the way to go is identify what is necessary then borrow to fund it….. we need to fix the fault lines shown by covid…. examples of needs… huge housing department waiting list, have our own equivalent of csl, plan for future pandemics….. re think centrelink….. ensure banks can fund small borrowings,,, to eliminate the need for the greedy payday lenders……. expand wages share of gdp by expanding the influence of trade unions
Spray
Beaten three times beforehand.
A Shane Watson lunge defence is okay against average bowlers.
Joe Burns plays the defensive push away from his body without moving his feet, over and over again. The commentators mutter ‘small technical error in his game…’
Player One @ #85 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:49 am
You know that bit about “growing up”? How about you apply it to yourself.
Shit canning smart alecery has got you nowhere on this blog and certainly in the real world. So, regardless of you having anything substantive to offer the discussion, you lose every single day.
GG
Labor are putting forward sensible policy, the trouble is there is bullshit to the left and bullshit to the right. Fitzgibbon does not solve the problem by adopting the rights bullshit.
Coal is finished and Australasia has to transition to renewables quickly to catch the next wave.
Australia does not have to close it’s coal mining industry. The market will do that.
Greensborough Growler @ #93 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:59 am
You started this debate, not me. Don’t be a sore loser.
sprocket_ @ #92 Saturday, December 26th, 2020 – 10:59 am
Flat track bully able to murder mediocre attacks. Never makes a run if the ball is swinging or seaming or turning.
Nsw Christmas Day Numbers
Tests> 40,000
8 local all limked to Northern Beaches
1 further may be false positive
40, 000 COVID tests in Sydney on Xmas Day, more than the 30,000 in the MCG today.
Mick Quinlivan
Housing is a state issue so by all means support the states in doing that.
No need for a new CSL when the government can work with CSL.
Centrelink and the social welfare sector needs a total overall.
Banks have been able to lend thanks to the RBA.
FWC and the labour market needs reforming.
Re Frydenberg: the top job has clearly been his long-term ambition.
However, it’s uncertain as to whether or not there has been enough cultural change within the Liberal Party for it to be prepared to have a Jewish person as its national leader. Does the Melbourne Club admit Jewish people yet? (I suspect that they probably do officially -as they would otherwise face problems with the Anti-Discrimination Act – but I wonder if there actually are any Jewish members of the club.)
It’s been interesting to watch the rise and rise of Josh. I think it’s symptomatic of a shift of the Jewish community’s loyalties away from the ALP: the party to which they had adhered very strongly for several generations (pretty much exclusively to the Right faction). Sadly, the significant growth of Australia’s Muslim population and its strong ties to the ALP has more or less put the party in a situation of needing to choose between Israel and Palestine. Bob Carr, among others, has been explicit about the need for Labor to come down on the Muslim side.
The whole process has probably been made a bit easier by the steady decline of the Israeli Labor Party, with which the ALP once had close ties (including a shared approach to spelling their name). There was much for the Australian left to like about the values underpinning the Israeli economic revolution: a strong union movement, a commitment to a secular state (albeit with a strong element of prejudice against minority groups: not that our ALP is historically blameless in that regard) and, of course, the utopian socialistic goals of the kibbutz movement. It was these aspects that appealed to past Labor leaders such as Bob Hawke and Julia Gillard. Those days are gone forever, and I think the Liberal Party – perhaps somewhat reluctantly – is going to have to represent the interests of most Jewish Australians from here onward.
Is Frydenberg a nice guy? According to my sources of information, some people who know him think he is, others find him a bit distracted and self-absorbed. Would he have what it takes to be a leader? He’s clearly quite smart and knowledgeable, but his communication style can be rather waffly: the same sort of problem for which I’ve criticised Tanya Plib in the past.
I would have thought that, if ScoMo was knocked over tomorrow by the proverbial bus, Dutton would be a shoo-in for the leadership. Beyond him, it’s true that there isn’t much on offer beyond Josh: the great white hopes of Porter and Taylor have imploded. Who else? Tehan or perhaps even Sharma? The cupboard’s pretty bare.