After blowing out to 53-47 in favour of the Coalition two Newspolls ago, the latest result, courtesy of The Australian, has two-party preferred back at 50-50. The Coalition is down two on the primary vote to 41% and Labor is up three to 36%, with the Greens steady on 11% and One Nation down one to 3%. Similarly, Scott Morrison’s still-healthy personal ratings are down on the last three weeks ago, with approval at 64% (down four) and disapproval on 32% (up three). Anthony Albanese is up on both approval, by two points to 43%, and disapproval, by three points to 41%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is now 58-29, in from 60-25. The poll also includes a finding that “80 per cent of Australians support border closures if the health situation demands it”, which I’ll go into in greater detail when I see the full results.
UPDATE: The wording to the latter question was, “do you think premiers should have the authority to close their borders or restrict entry of Australians who live in other states”, which drew responses of 80% yes and 18% no. State breakdowns: 76-22 in New South Wales, 74-23 in Victoria, 84-15 in Queensland, 92-5 in South Australia and 91-7 in Western Australia, from respective samples of 475, 371, 311, 119 and 146. The overall sample of the poll was 1507, and it was conducted from Wednesday to Saturday.
UPDATE 2 (Tuesday): Today The Australian brings further findings on attitudes to the leaders, specifically that Scott Morrison is rated as experienced by 79% and Anthony Albanese by 63%; Morrison is reckoned to have a vision for Australia by 72% compared with 52% for Albanese; and that Morrison is rated arrogant by 46% and Albanese by 37%. In all three cases, Morrison’s ratings have improved by either 11% or 12% since the questions were last posed in December, which is fairly typical of such polling in closely tracking the leader’s overall approval rating.
PeeBee @ #597 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:23 pm
Peewee,
I criticizer Labor because I expect better.
Grow up.
You pretend to be a Labor supporter and say nothing?
Makes Mundo wonder where your loyalties lie.
Are you happy with Labor’s performance?
Yes?
Welcome to Morristan.
Fuckwit.
Lil’ Nicky’s Gileadesque allegiance to MMT is somewhat disturbing.
#underhiseye!
Despite mainstream scoffing, credible economists say COVID-19 means MMT is no longer just theory
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/economics-modern-monetary-theory-spending-1.5704124
To be a really successful premier, you have to have an enemy, Mark McGowan has Palmer and a federal government silly enough to join in. The Victorian Liberals yapping is not a challenge. Come on down Josh Frydenberg.
SK:
What do you think about the latest 538 poll averages in those key swing states?
And you might be interested in this – follows commentary from Lincoln Project and others about the flipping of the electoral map.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-minnesota-could-be-the-next-midwestern-state-to-go-red/
guytaur
You still trying to defend the indefensible?
Did you hear the drum. It wasn’t Palmer ( he spent 8 million and didn’t get a seat, they are cheaper at ikea is a good line), it was bob Browns gas guzzler convoy that helped the most.
Such a successful Green/Liberal wedge.
FredNK
Still blaming the Greens for believing the polls I see.
Cockburn’s kinda like Belmont – thanks to the new development at North Coogee (like Ascot, expensive new flats completely unlike anything else in the area), it’s probably become a seat Labor could lose in a really bad year, like 2013. Obviously next year won’t be that election, but it’s one to keep a long-term eye on.
I just tuned in so I hope I am the first with this scoop:
https://thewest.com.au/politics/mark-mcgowan/perth-comedian-dedicates-song-to-heartthrob-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan-ng-b881653798z
Eat your heart out Eastern Staters and LNP voters.
The Libs wont be able to fill a minibus after the next WA election.
‘fess
There havent been any good polls in those states for yonks. I dont see any change in Bidens lead as yet. But there will be lots of polls this week to nervously wait for.
Minn worries me. I suggested a while back that a few lowly ranked polls were showing Trump might be in with a show. kakaru wasnt impressed with that. I hope a poll goes there and proves kakaru right. But yes, its red tinge is hidden by the amazing job the DFL do in that state. If Klobuchar were the candidate…..
Great to see the first indigenous man appointed as consul-general to the US, as reported on “7.30” tonight, a most impressive young man:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-04/australia-appoints-first-indigenous-consul-general-to-us/12421264
I wish him well.
guytaur says:
Monday, August 31, 2020 at 9:41 pm
FredNK
Still blaming the Greens for believing the polls I see.
Yes the polls didn’t take into account the damage that could be done by the greens. Don’t think Labor will make mistake again.
Maggot:’I criticise Labor because I expect better’
What? You think the LNP is better?
You’re a fake.
FredNK
Yes Labor knew the Greens were making Adani a totemic issue like the Franklin Dam.
It was no surprise for Labor.
The surprise was Labor letting the LNP make that Labor’s position.
Edit: I expected an immigration style backflip to appease the Queensland voters.
guytaur
Yes the Green/Liberal wedge worked. Further destruction of the environment, be happy it underlines, what the Greens have done for the last 20 year, environmental destruction on environmental destruction.
Was thinking about that. She might increase the vote in her home state, but not do so well in others. Guess we’ll never know.
PeeBee @ #614 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:46 pm
Did I say that fuckwit?
Have I voted Labor all my adult life because I think the tories are better Fuckwit?
Did I earn a degree because Labor allowed me access to university because I was waiting for the tories to let me in, Fuckwit.
Are you a Fuckwit by choice? Fuckwit?
FredNK
Yes your lying that the Greens are for the destruction of the environment says it all.
Talking out of your behind.
Good way to destroy your credibility well done
Chill, Mundo. Hang in there son.
I liked Steve Bracks tweet likening Frydenberg to Trump on calling to open the economy against health advice. My mistake if I have not quoted properly.
It’s all relative of course, but until today I had the notion that Josh Frydenberg was less despicable than most of his party colleagues. You live and learn.
PeeBee @ #614 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:46 pm
Because I expect the party – Australia’s oldest political party – responsible for creating the social and economic architecture of modern Australia to do better. Much better than it is currently doing allowing itself to be shit kicked around by the likes of Scrooter and Highpants.
Fuckwit.
Mundo, how about a leaving out the abuse? You sound like a very conflicted person. Just like a Green, you vote Labor (via preference in the Greens case) and spend your day criticising Labor.
How about showing a bit of gratitude for the degree you obtained courtesy of Labor. Criticise the LNP. After all there is plenty of material there and they are in power and wrecking the joint.
There was one A rated poll, 19th Aug in Pa that had Biden up by (only) 4 pts. Then back to Aug 10 for Emerson polling of a few important states. Throughout this period the national head to head for Biden has been good but, again even there the highly rated pollsters have been quiet.
We are getting a lot of low rated and/or partisan polling. My bias tells me to ignore them and hope they are incorrectly skewing the swing state averages.
Confessions @ #605 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:39 pm
I just listened to the second to last Pod Save America discussion about the RNC Convention and polling tightening as the race to the White House gets to the pointy end of the competition, and their opinion was that, of course the polling will tighten, and they scoped the scenarios under which it might get really close in the swing states but that it was the Democrats’ job to keep the conversation coming back to the pandemic and Trump’s hopeless handling of it, and not play Trump’s law and order game.
SK
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-favorability-still-high-over-trump-following-rnc-poll-says/ar-BB18wnUv?li=BB141NW3
PeeBee @ #624 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:59 pm
moano is a one trick dog and pony show. It will never happen. He thinks he’s all that and more with his sardonic, pissing on Labor from great heights, schtick.
And notice how, even though Labor must be doing something right to be at 50-50 with the Coalition, he STILL can’t bring himself to say anything nice about them? That says it all to me, and what it says is that he, and his opinions, aren’t worth snuff.
PeeBee @ #624 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 9:59 pm
Where I come from critisizing the tories is a given.
I don’t know about you.
I critisize Labor because I EXPECT BETTER.
I showed my gratitude when I thanked Gough in person in 2013.
And I won’t tell you under what circumstances because I don’t think you’re worth it.
Fuckwit.
Now shut up.
– https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-favorability-perceptions-covid-19-response-stagnate-post/story?id=72705268
– Mr Trump’s favorability down (slightly) from 32% pre-RNC to 31% post-RNC
– Mr Biden’s favorability up from 40% pre-DNC to 45% post-DNC / pre-RNC to 46% post-RNC
and various other things…
And the reason that I chose to listen to a podcast, instead of engaging here after I finished packing our books up tonight (oldest book in my collection is from 1883!), is because I saw guytaur STILL going on with his inane prattle, which hadn’t altered in any material sense since this morning!
Guytaur, ‘Yes your lying that the Greens are for the destruction of the environment says it all.’
They may not be ‘for’ the destruction of the environment intentionally, but through their actions, that is the effect. They are enablers of the LNP which are happily wrecking the environment unhindered.
The Greens are the enablers of the LNP through:
1. Stunts such the Adani convoy
2. Take the electoral funding that could go to Labor
3. Spend a lot of time criticising Labor
4. Passing their preferences to the LNP
5. Target Labor seats meaning
6. Double the air time of the anti Labor parties
7. NEVER CRITICISE the true environmental wreckers
Please add more if you are inclined
Cat
That’s because the same idiots were still trying to say the fact Labor and the Greens working together in the ACT is proof Labor and the Greens can’t work together elsewhere.
Mundo, you hate Labor. Simple as that.
When it is pointed out to you, you can’t retain your rage.
Abuse and demanding people shut up shows me you hate hearing the truth.
You’ve more than used up your fuckwit points for the year, Mundo.
Kerry O’Brien run rings around young Hamish the pop star.
SNIP
SK
I have not seen any state government express an interest or desire to send limited resources to other jurisdictions to see what is going on.
Some standards around quarantine seems like a good idea. Let’s see if the Vic Quarantine Inquiry raises that one.
The rest of what you advance seems superfluous particularly the unspecified rules and laws. No government of any description is asking for them AFAIA.
guytaur @ #633 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 10:08 pm
No, it’s because you are such a blinkered fool who won’t admit that the ACT is unrepresentative of the rest of Australia!
Mundo, you’re not the kind of commenter who’s going to get a whole lot of yellow cards before I move on to red.
SNIP
Cat
No it’s because the Labor right heavy faction on this blog wants to argue that the Greens and Labor cannot work together.
Your mob said the same thing about the Greens working with Labor in Tasmania.
We know Labor will work with the Greens when the voters make that choice.
My only point is I think a united front will work better than a divided one.
You all have gone DEMOGRAPHICS.
As if that proves anything.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/08/30/newspoll-50-50-18/comment-page-13/#comment-3473230
2. & 3. Its called Democracy.
4. Greens preferences flow strongly to the ALP (the Qld Greens did once preference the Liberals in 1995 but this has never been repeated and is not likely to be). Those that don`t almost certainly wouldn`t have gone to the ALP anyway.
5. The Greens also target Coalition held seats (Prahran 2014, Ballina 2015, Maiwar 2017, Higgins multiple times, etc).
6. If you think that the Greens get anywhere as much media coverage as the Coalition, in anything more than the most left-wing of publications, you are very delusional. They get considerably less.
7. The Greens do criticise the Coalition, Polluters, etc. regularly.
Mundo, there you go again criticising Labor along with a dollop of personal abuse. Predictable.
I seem to remember Monty Python did a sketch about people like mundo who wear as a badge of honour the fact they fought in the war alongside the great generals and weren’t averse to shining their boots with their spit as they prostrated themselves before them and lauded them to the stars to anyone who would listen. And how things are never ever going to be as great again, even though they profess that’s all they want. For things to be that great again. You can almost see them wearing a, Make Australian Labor Great Again red cap, as they pity porn their way through every day of their criticism about the ALP.
It’s pathetic, it’s pitiful, and you’d think they’d be capable of more than that, especially considering the university degree they profess to possess, courtesy of their god, Gough Whitlam. However, sadly, they don’t even seem capable of realising that, although they haven’t moved on wrt their perception of politics, the rest of the nation has. This means that they are incapable of seeing that what they profess to be holding out for Labor to do is no longer an effective strategy.
As the latest Newspoll shows in spades.
Not that mundo will EVER be able to admit it.
1. Stunts such the Adani convoy – that enraged a bunch of people deciding whether to vote One Nation or National but who would never vote Labor.
2. Take the electoral funding that could go to Labor – yes, they took their entitlement. About 10% of voters vote Green.
3. Spend a lot of time criticising Labor. Well, they’re allowed to, as unhelpful to the environment and climate action as that is.
4. Passing their preferences to the LNP. Their preferences go 80%+ to Labor.
5. Target Labor seats meaning – they are allowed to. They’ve had very little success.
6. Double the air time of the anti Labor parties – the mainstream media mostly ignore them
7. NEVER CRITICISE the true environmental wreckers – I’ll grant that one. Not “Never” but certainly not enough.
guytaur,
The way you want Labor and The Greens to ‘work together’ is never going to happen. Again. Get used to it. Federal Labor were burned very badly by the federal Greens in 2010-13 and they are never, ever going to make that mistake again because The Greens’ concept of ‘working together’ is for Labor to take dictation from The Greens, even though the ALP are the party with the majority of seats. Just because The Greens, if a similar situation, heaven forbid, were to occur to that in 2010, would have no hesitation in holding Labor hostage again to their ill fortune.
So you can spend all day and night prattling on with your coulda, woulda, shoulda claptrap, but at the end of the day you are not going to change one Labor person’s mind and especially not one person in the leadership of the Labor Party.
So I can therefore only conclude that you waste people’s time and energy here, manically and relentlessly, as some form of perverse political onanism.
And I honestly don’t know why I don’t do what Confessions says and just ignore your pointless, non-productive, useless inanity.
PeeBee @ #644 Monday, August 31st, 2020 – 10:30 pm
Peewee there you go adain giving tacet support to the LNP.
Predictable.
You’re a fake. There’s your dollop.
Knitwit.
Cat
Yes Labor wants to keep backing it’s coal donors for tactical reasons rather than take the science seriously.
I get that. However much you deny it the proof is there.
The ACT government exists. Labor and the Greens can work together.
Labor not wanting to is a choice. It’s not holy writ handed down by god.
Hey Peewee, I’ll go on critisizing Labor as long as their performance is wanting.
You go on cheering from the sidelines and ensuring the tories stay in power.
Good on you. Do what you think best supports your agenda.