Courtesy of The Australian, the latest Newspoll has the Coalition’s two-party lead down to 52-48 from 53-47 three weeks ago, from primary votes of Coalition 43% (down one), Labor 33% (doen one), Greens 11% (up one) and One Nation 4% (steady). Scott Morrison is steady at 68% approval and up two on disapproval to 29%, while Anthony Albanese is respectively steady at 41% and down two to 38%. Morrison’s lead as prime minister has nonetheless widened very slightly, from 59-26 to 60-25. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1509.
Either will do, I suppose.
Spray:
Watching a clip on YouTube now… My thoughts:
– he sounds a bit hyponasal (less nasal than normal). This often has an ‘organic’ (anatomic/physiological) cause, such as enlarged adenoids, blocked sinuses, or hearing loss.
– he doesn’t always articulate multi-syllabic words like ‘opportunity’ and ‘industrially’ clearly.
– it doesn’t help that his head is facing down while he’s reading aloud.
– his voice may be slightly harsh-sounding, and he’s a bit monotonous to listen to.
But even these are pretty minor concerns. I’m used to seeing people (children, in my case) who you can barely understand. Nevertheless, not speaking clearly all of the time can still be a big deal for a politician.
Bucephalus says:
Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:47 pm
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I was in the Regular Army for almost exactly the same time and a member of the Australian Army for many years more than her and I’m just as proud of my Reserve service as my Regular service.
So how come Lanbie is upset with Morrison’s behavior and you are not?
Ya think? So I’m guessing Epstein will be talking about this today on his program
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“There was undoubtedly a great deal done to prepare the Aust health sector more generally for the pandemic, the evidence will reveal that neither the Commonwealth Department of Health nor the aged care regulator developed a COVID-19 plan specifically for the aged care sector.”
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Rozen quotes Hunt who said in late July: “aged care around the country has been immensely prepared.” The Royal Commission disagrees. “The evidence will demonstrate that the sector has been underprepared.” Surprise!
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The Morrison Government is responsible for aged care in Australia.
Why didn‘t they prepare to protect aged care residents so vulnerable to COVID-19?
https://theconversation.com/federal-departments-had-no-specific-covid-plan-for-aged-care-royal-commission-counsel-144204?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=bylinetwitterbutton via
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Federal departments had no specific COVID plan for aged care: royal commission counsel
Peter Rozen QC declared before the Royal Commission into Aged Care that Australia’s aged care sector was “underprepared” to deal with COVID-19.
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The criteria for the award of the V.C. is very unfair on ‘rankers’ as there act of bravery must be supported by a commissioned officer of regimental level, plus three witnesses. Since many acts of outstanding courage have been carried out without this criteria being met, it is easy to see why this sailor missed out.
Mr Newbie @ #401 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 2:52 pm
Interesting. He was frequently mocked for his poor diction. I guess that would have been a bit uncalled-for if he suffered from something pathological, but in reality he just sounded like a lazy speaker.
clem attlee @ #405 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 12:57 pm
Probably why Alex’s horse is so indifferent, it was a sailor, not a soldier.
Ha, just read that in some instances, V.C.’s have been awarded by ballot. how democratic.
A cynic might suggest that Morrison will not be happy until all border controls are removed, allowing the virus to spread across Australia.
I know some Auslan/Key Word Sign and I have noticed they tend to sign a few sentences behind and often rephrase things (English and Auslan grammar are quite different). It amazes me how they can listen to something, process it and translate it at the same time. That is largely a factor of me not being able to process different things simultaneously (read while listening to someone, write while talking, etc) but it’s probably largely practice.
I’ve also always been impressed with the ability of some vision impaired people to understand words at a much faster rate than most people can talk while performing other tasks (Nas Campanella at the ABC/Triple J, Tony Clark at Vision Australia – and ALP candidate for Deakin and Ringwood).
There have been a few occasions where the interpreter has opted to use more forcefull phrasing or colourful expression than whoever was speaking.
frednk says:
Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:52 pm
“So how come Lanbie is upset with Morrison’s behavior and you are not?”
She is politicising the issue in attempt to get people to Vote for her. This is the first time I’ve heard her mentioned for a long time since she became almost irrelevant in the Senate. Hopefully Tasmania will see through her and she loses next time she’s up.
I don’t have a problem with the decision or the process that has led up to it.
Had to rub my eyes this morning with this is the West………
“Scomo out in front but Labor looming” as the paper’s commentary on the current Newspoll….
By mistake, it must have been written by someone with both eyes open and not one closed with the other saying “Liberal”, which is the usual case in the subheadings in the West……
Tangara is an Opus Dei run school – God’s punishment? And where is Dom Perottet?
“NSW recorded 14 new coronavirus cases, as the number of infections linked to Sydney schools spikes. Five of the new cases are linked to Tangara School for Girls at Cherrybrook in Sydney’s north-west, including four students and a household contact;”
All those VC’s at Rorke’s Drift………………. The earlier massacres just looked so bad for the British army of the day…………………………
clem attlee says:
Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:57 pm
“The criteria for the award of the V.C. is very unfair on ‘rankers’ as there act of bravery must be supported by a commissioned officer of regimental level, plus three witnesses. Since many acts of outstanding courage have been carried out without this criteria being met, it is easy to see why this sailor missed out.”
The current requirements are very different to what the used to be.
There is no requirement for support by a Commissioned Officer:
“ All nominations for the VC are to be staffed through the chain-of-command to Chief of Joint Operations (CJOPS) and Chief of the Defence Force (CDF), irrespective of whether they are supported or not.”
https://www.defence.gov.au/medals/_Master/docs/DHAM/06A.pdf
These people are so damn obvious
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Odd that Rachel Blaxendale in her defence of her journalism forgot to reveal that Morrison has been backgrounding journos to do exactly what she was accused of doing on behalf of Newscorpse.
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Massive shell shock I’d say!
Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
Monday, August 10, 2020 at 3:01 pm
“Probably why Alex’s horse is so indifferent”
I’m not indifferent to it. I’m very pleased. You are full of shit and it keeps dribbling out – you know nothing of how I think.
As I said, damn obvious
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Oh, I didn’t need Farr to tell me Morrison’s mob were backgrounding journalists. Did you?
On the day there was a seemingly high level of coordination with Tim Smith’s morning tweets. Given he’d cleaned out his tweet feed weekend before, pretty apparent feds now playing.
sprocket_ @ #415 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 3:11 pm
Sprocket,
Really hope those kids are ok. And I hope they haven’t reached the “Love pain, sanctify pain, glorify pain!” stage of their indoctrination into OD.
Spray:
Poor diction – unless it significantly impacts on your ability to be understood by others, includes mispronunciation of one or more speech sounds (that you’ve never been able to use correctly), is the result of a neurological problem, is a side effect of a surgical procedure or medical problem, or it bothers the speaker – is generally more the domain of a speech and drama teacher/public speaking or acting coach than a speech pathologist, in my view (I know some will disagree).
Bugler @ #410 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 1:04 pm
It’s an amazing ability, similar are the UN translators who are able to do it in real time.
Bucephalus @ #418 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 1:18 pm
True, you just push the Party line more than most.
I have often thought that the way Albo speaks sounds like his slightly drunk but I know he isn’t. He does appear to be working on having clearer diction of late.
Albo was brought up by a single mum, so you can imagine there was not of money for dental work when he was younger. A few years ago, Albo had his teeth straight using braces. I imagine, having a jumble of teeth in your mouth would make speaking clearly difficult.
Now the teeth are straight, he has to train himself to speak differently.
I’ll preface my general comments by making the following declaration, that I would have preferred Albo to win the ballot against Shorten. However I have come to the conclusion that Albanese will not not be PM of this country, so long as his arse points to the ground. He doesn’t look the part, he doesn’t sound the part and any fight he had, seems to be well dissipated. The man is a charisma free zone and he has zero cut through. Now before anybody protests by pointing at Sooty Morrison, remember that he became PM by way of a party room ballot.
Some on here, support Albanese because they think he is of the left. He is not! He abandoned the left years ago and has embraced neo liberalism. This has created one of his biggest problems. What does Albanese really stand for? Not much, just increased infra structure spending, particularly fast rail. He is floundering to a lay a glove on the Tories, because rather than fighting them, he is emulating them.
The teeth are actually relatively unimportant for speaking, only being used to make 4 of the 42 speech sounds* (*depending on the dialect) of English – those being f, v, and the two th sounds (one voiced, one voiceless). That being said, if you have some or all of your maxillary central and lateral incisors (the top front 4 teeth) missing, this can distort the sound of the sibilant sounds – s, z, sh, zh, ch, and j – as more air can escape, but it does not, in itself, create a ‘lisp’. The shape of the mouth (e.g. if you have an overbite or underbite) can affect speech more than missing or crooked teeth.
PeeBee and Mr Newbie,
Wouldn’t having a major change in your teeth position not necessarily have a positive impact? I appreciate the changes might be minor but it could change where your tongue rests and affect ways which have been subconsciously compensating for where teeth are positioned.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/08/09/newspoll-52-48-coalition-2/comment-page-9/#comment-3461105
Albo didn`t even run a decent attack on the Coalition for hiding who was running Australia while the PM was in Hawaii. That would have been the perfect attack, drawing attention to the holiday during the bushfires without actually saying the PM can`t have a holiday.
He seems to be running the ALP as Liberals for High Speed Rail.
Tom the first and best says:
Monday, August 10, 2020 at 3:52 pm
“Albo didn`t even run a decent attack on the Coalition for hiding who was running Australia while the PM was in Hawaii.”
Um – that’s because we have a DPM who steps in when the PM is out of the country on holiday.
Bugler:
From my experience of hearing relatives who wear dentures or partial dentures speaking, they can definitely impact on someone’s speech, but I assume that is more to do with how well they fit, and whether e.g. they are secured in place, than anything else.
I had braces on my lower teeth in my teens, though only one tooth was out of place. They didn’t affect how I sounded.
The tongue rests (or should rest) behind the teeth at rest, normally against the alveolar ridge (the bump behind your top teeth). I imagine it’s more a case of getting used to the different feeling and knowing where things are in space inside your mouth, than a change in the position of teeth (though surely the change would be gradual, allowing time to adjust) causing a speech problem.
Bucephalus
Do you come here for a laugh?
Nobody stepped in or up. It wasn’t even official that he wasn’t here, until the media ran him to earth.
Mr Newbie @ #421 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 3:23 pm
That’s all largely academic in the field of politics. Proper diction, speaking skills, and even the ability to string two coherent sentences together are all secondary. Past experience demonstrates as much. To win, all a politician has to do is master the delivery of a few key phrases:
– Lock her up
– Build the wall
– Drain the swamp
– Stop the boats
– Axe the tax
– Jobs and growth
– Yes we can
– etc.
Do that, and work out which key phrase works today (I’d go for “Lock him up”, “Drain the swamp”, and “Black lives matter”), and you win.
Even when the DPM doesn’t know that the PM is overseas on holidays while the country is burning.
Mr Newbie,
Thanks 🙂 My professional experience with Speech Pathology has more been around use of Augmentative and Alternative Communication so this is interesting! (Though I did receive speech therapy myself for a minor lisp at five years old in prep)
I have a slight hearing problem when I can’t see the speaker’s mouth. The telehealth interview with my Chinese-accented surgeon in October is going to be interesting!
Lizzie, it wasn’t even the Media that exposed the clown.
It was one of his Hawaiian booze buddies, who sent home a selfie of the buffoons having a wonderful time.
Fulvio Sammut
Oh yes, I’d forgotten. They’re a bright lot, aren’t they!
lizzie @ #436 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 2:05 pm
Since I’ve been teaching I’ve really noticed how much I read lips when listening.
When group drilling I can easily pick up the ones making mistakes even though I can’t individually hear them.
a r:
In the Australian context, you need “hardworking Australians”, “working families”, “families”, and “Australian families” and use them ad infinitum.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/poor-decisions-are-wrecking-australias-economy-not-the-virus,14187#.XzDcxBylzi4.twitter
It’s also because eight months ago when we were in the midst of the Bushfire disaster Albo and the ALP decided it was not in the country’s interest or their political interests to be seen to be politicising a National Disaster.
I believe that was the right decision then and no amount of armchair commentary to the contrary is worth a pinch of shite today.
clem attlee @ #427 Monday, August 10th, 2020 – 3:45 pm
Yep. This is pretty much how I feel about Albo. Except I would add that this is not Albo’s fault – he was clearly intended only as a placeholder until Labor could come up with someone better. He once said himself WTTE that he wasn’t leadership material.
Trouble is, they haven’t been able to come up with anyone better, and we are only 12 months away from the next election.
The clock is ticking, Labor!
I look forward to future ALP PMs briefing the media in full on all their private family holiday plans including all security assessments and arrangements and having this posted on all major social media platforms. Should they include a TikTok video?
I think anyone that thinks they know what things will look like in 2 years is full of it.
I doubt Morrison will still be PM. The Liberals will have moved from the C to D ream.
Who leads the D team? buggered if I know.
Bucephalus
You love to exaggerate to try to make a point, don’t you. Most previous PMs have officially handed over to their deputy and some have said where they will be taking their holiday. That’s all we need.
Clem could have written that stream of consciousness regardless of who the Labor Leader is at any particular time. Just change the person’s name and the same alleged character flaws and bile would just flow.
I get that he hates Labor and Labor people.
But, don’t expect Labor to be remotely interested in anything he has to say.
Bugler:
I’m only really adding my $0.02. I am not, and don’t claim to be, an expert in all things relating to speech pathology (I don’t have much experience/expertise with augmenative and alternative communication, for example). My ‘lay’ impression of Albo’s speaking style, for example, is that he sounds like he’s chewing on a piece of steak when he talks, and that’s not particularly pleasant to listen to (but I’ve heard much worse). That doesn’t quite translate into a diagnosable problem, other than perhaps he has some issues with oral resonance (how the sound of the voice is modified by the shape/position of the tongue in the mouth, in relation to other oral structures), and maybe also some pharyngeal constriction (tightness of the throat muscles) when speaking that could be worked on.
Mr Newbie
Perhaps Albo should take singing lessons. 🙂