As reported by The Guardian, the fortnightly Essential Research poll (a sequence complicated by a bonus coronavirus poll last week) includes the pollster’s monthly leadership ratings, which reflect the findings of Newspoll in very slightly lesser degree. Scott Morrison is up on approval from 41% to 59% (compared with 41% to 61% in Newspoll) and down on disapproval from 49% to 31% (compared with 53% to 35%), while Anthony Albanese is respectively up from 41% to 44% (compared with 40% to 45%) and down from 33% to 29% (compared with 40% to 36%).
For the fifth successive poll, Essential asked respondents about their level of concern about the threat of coronavirus to Australia, to which the combined very concerned and quite concerned responses climbed from 68% to 63% to 82% to 88%, and has now remained steady at 88%. No information is provided on preferred prime minister — we will have to wait for the full report later today to see, among other things, if the question was asked.
UPDATE: Full report here. Scott Morrison now holds a 46-27 lead as preferred prime minister, out from 40-35 last time (note that the BludgerTrack trends are now updated with the latest Essential and Newspoll numbers). The government’s response is now rated good by 58%, up from 45% a week ago, and poor by 21%, down from 31%. The poll also finds 29% expecting a lengthy recession due to coronavirus; 51% expecting that “the economy will be impacted for 6-12 months or longer and will stagnate or show slow growth thereafter” (which for my tastes is not sufficiently distinct in its wording from the first option); and 11% expecting the economy will “rebound within 2-3 months”. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1069.
Dealing with epidemics – in what manner? My guess, as his role during the 80s was as a political adviser to Blewitt, is in social media and spinning. Important in their own way but not the main game at the moment
What are his qualifications? I really can’t find them on the net.
Scott Dworkin
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I’m watching Trump’s ludicrous press conference now so you don’t have to. Trump starts by trying to act like he has medicine that Boris Johnson should use, since he was just admitted to the ICU. It’s one of the most insane things I’ve ever heard someone say ever.
I hesitate to pop up with this, wrt eradication of the virus, but Norway appears to be definitely talking about doing that now.
They’ve been in lockdown for about a month.
School closures have little impact on spread of coronavirus – study
UCL say small benefits should be weighed against profound economic and social costs
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/apr/06/school-closures-have-little-impact-on-spread-of-coronavirus-study
The study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30095-X/fulltext
So speaketh someone enjoying isolation.
Ditto, brother.
Case in point, I lolled to myself this morning when I heard a bird call outside which sounded incredibly like it kept saying over and over, “idiots!” Never a truer word spoken about the human race (though not all of us), by a species with no skin in the game. 🙂
Victoria @ #156 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 9:49 am
Hmm, let me see…starts with ‘Chloro’, ends with ‘quine’. 😐
Oakeshott Country
It would appear the chappie is a ‘management consultant”.
OC
I can’t find his qualifications either which raises a red flag for me in the context of a discussion about experts and weighing up who is more of an expert than another.
C@tmomma @ #155 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 9:52 am
There’s a bower bird ringing its new bower in blue tit bits just off the driveway.
Norway
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.no/20200406/coronavirus-can-norway-open-up-without-seeing-infections-spike/amp
I have been trying to identify the peak bits of wisdom that I have read on Bludger since Jan 1. Here are mine:
1. RHW’s ‘imagine every surface is covered with wet paint’ and the his urgings about the critical importance of hand-to-mouth/nose/eyes behaviour control. I have tried to apply these since day 1.
2. The poster who relayed the thought that the problem with the stimulus/hibernation money is that it seeks to maintain status quo ante rather than to generate new industries. I think this insight is particularly acute. It will be years before we have the masses of migrants/students/tourists who were driving our Ponzi Scheme. We need to go to a real Plan B. I doubt whether Morrison has the mental furniture for this one. It requires genuine over-the-horizon vision. He repeatedly asserts the importance of ‘snap back’ and his event horizon is six months, of which we have already used up two months. This insight gains more and more weight the longer we are forced to hunker down behind our borders.
3. The description on Q&A of what it is like to get bad symptoms and/or to die from C19. The prospect of choking to death by yourself because your family can’t be there to see you through and to see you off is not all that inviting.
I am wondering how possible it would be to establish islands of Covid-19 free populations and “march” the virus out of existence?
Goods could get shipped in, but only locals can un-load the items from the truck.
Get this right and we could start to have footy to watch, get it really right, then we could start attending games.
OC
“My guess, as his role during the 80s was as a political adviser to Blewitt, is in social media and spinning.”
That’s also my guess.
poroti
yep
Victoria says: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:49 am
Scott Dworkin
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I’m watching Trump’s ludicrous press conference now so you don’t have to.
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Bill Palmer : Donald Trump’s press conference today was a flaming dumpster fire of racist psychotic lunacy
Donald Trump’s press conference today was difficult to even categorize. At one point he accused an Asian-looking reporter of “working for China.” At another point he attacked Senator Chuck Schumer for no apparent reason. He also seemed surprised to learn that HHS has an Inspector General. But if you’re looking for one moment that sums up just how clueless Trump is, look no further than his interaction with Jon Karl.
After Jon Karl asked a question that Donald Trump didn’t like, Trump called him a “third rate reporter” and a “disgrace.” Trump then insisted that Karl “will never make it” as a White House correspondent. Wait, does Trump think Karl is some kind of rookie?
Jon Karl has been with ABC News for seventeen years. He’s been a White House correspondent for as long as Donald Trump has been in office. In fact Karl is the current President of the White House Correspondents’ Association. It seems pretty clear that Karl “made it.” What stands out here is that Trump appeared to think Karl was some brand new reporter he’d never seen before. Just how far gone are Trump’s cognitive abilities?
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/flaming-dumpster-fire-of-racist-psychotic-lunacy/27352/
So is the ABC shutting down anyone who criticises Morrison?
Velly interesting. I’m not sure why she found it necessary to say this, in such an open ended multifactorial situation.
(abc)
Austria, for example, is already planning to wind back restrictions.
OC: “Dealing with epidemics – in what manner? My guess, as his role during the 80s was as a political adviser to Blewitt, is in social media and spinning. Important in their own way but not the main game at the moment
What are his qualifications? I really can’t find them on the net.”
What I think I’ve heard Bowtell’s fans say about him – and believe this might have helped him to receive his order of Australia – is that he led the push to have a response to HIV/AIDS at the national level – Grim Reaper, etc – that did not give the appearance of be targeting the gay community and therefore minimised any stigma that might be applied to them.
His view wasn’t universally supported at the time, even on the political left: eg, I recall Phillip Adams being highly critical of it, arguing that advertising campaigns that told all Australians that they were at equal risk of catching HIV/AIDS were a complete waste of money and time.
I think it’s definitely true that regardless of national campaigns – which quite possibly didn’t achieve all that much either good or bad – the majority of the really good work that helped to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS was done within the gay community and with intravenous drug users. But I also agree that there was a serious risk of stigmatisation of gay people at the time, so full marks to Bowtell for whatever he did to prevent that.
Cud Chewer says: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 6:12 am
Plus Boris would only be replaced by another Tory twat…
You mean some Tory twat like that Victorian era looney Jacob Rees-Mogg who must be busy sticking pins into his Boris doll.
C@t
Bingo!
Its times like this, that I reflect on a past blogger dtt stating that Clinton and Ebola was going to be the end of us. Trump was a much better prospect.
They were good times.
Lol!
ItzaDream @ #169 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 10:00 am
Maybe she’s swinging the pendulum too far the other way after the Ruby Princess debacle?
Pell case overturned by the high court.
Victoria @ #172 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 10:01 am
Snap! I just had a vision of dtt putting up endless screeds from her ‘trusted’ sources proving whatever was the latest conspiracy theory to spread like wildfire through the outer reaches of the internet. 😆
The High Court has quashed Cardinal George Pell’s convictions, unanimously allowing his appeal.
woooh re Pell – appeal allowed, convictions out
Itzadream
Quite, and I would add Austria and Australia have a number of similarities. Good testing regimes (not the world’s best, but similar cases and deaths at similar points in time). Early implementation in the course of the virus of strict measures.
Could do a lot worse than following Austria’s lead.
Re. Pell: told youse so.
Oh dear. Stand by for a day full of expletive-laden rants from yabba.
Pell off the hook.
Cud Chewer says: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:01 am
I wonder if I can buy a cruise ship going cheap as my private yacht?
I would rather have one that goes, “Aarrkk!”
Cud Chewer says: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:11 am
I found “Idiocracy” purely by accident and thoroughly enjoyed it. Somewhat prescient now, what with The Donald in charge.
Blobbit
I’ve found the wet paint demonstration of handwashing techniques very instructive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEzJ_QKjT14
More Moir:
“ that Victorian era looney Jacob Rees-Mogg …”
Come. Come. Young Jacob belongs to the era of the Lord North Government, surely.
Yes
I’ve told the story before but Shepherd as head of the AMA attacked the Grim Reaper campaign for wasting resources when the campaign needed to be concentrated on the gay community. On one hand it is argued that it decreased stigmatisation of the gay community but on the other it produced enormous and unnecessary paranoia throughout the community with a waste of health resources.
At one meeting Shepherd said Bowtell and Blewitt were unfit to lead the AIDS response because they were “poofters”. This became public knowledge although Shepherd initially denied it.
At the time Blewitt was in the closet and successfully sued Shepherd and some newspapers for defamation. He eventually came out in 2000
Phil didn’t like me suggesting on twitter that his coverage of the NEG marketing bubble Malcolm was selling (and Phil was breathlessly adoring) might be informed by some real journalism he could source for free at renew energy.
Now twitter is full of Aussie blue ticks with skin so thin a soft rain drop could cut it but Phil is a special kind of precious.
The FMD for the day, the Sloan Ranger gives the Scrott’s mega spend three thumbs up. I wonder what venom she spat at Rudd for his GFC rescue package ?
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Take as directed for fast, effective relief
The nation can afford to amass more debt and still have an acceptable exit path.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fcommentary%2Fcoronavirus-take-as-directed-for-fast-effective-relief%2Fnews-story%2F295e2dc8310bc42848fc7d3896abf760&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium
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Rudd ? Sloan Ranger said
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Recession may have been better than Rudd’s economic stimulusJUDITH SLOAN
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/opinion/recession-may-have-been-better-than-rudds-economic-stimulus/news-story/b189af8e48ceddc0b1a5a1cf88c1a584
Yay! Justice served. The righteous are triumphant. The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse was a populist witch hunt.
GG was right all along. Pell is an upstanding example to us all, not a low, evil bastard who denied, and deliberately psychologically tortured thousands of victims of his greedy, money grubbing cult.
Kronomex
I saw the movie back in the days of Dubya. Best Documentary movie I’ve seen 🙂
Didn’t I tell you?
And while we are on the topic of religion, look what America has to put up with (via analysis by The Young Turks):
https://youtu.be/slcYmN0XtdQ
The High Court considered that, while the Court of Appeal majority assessed the evidence of the opportunity witnesses as leaving open the possibility that the complainant’s account was correct, their Honours’ analysis failed to engage with the question of whether there remained a reasonable possibility that the offending had not taken place, such that there ought to have been a reasonable doubt as to the applicant’s guilt. The unchallenged evidence of the opportunity witnesses was inconsistent with the complainant’s account, and described: (i) the applicant’s practice of greeting congregants on or near the Cathedral steps after Sunday solemn Mass; (ii) the established and historical Catholic church practice that required that the applicant, as an archbishop, always be accompanied when robed in the Cathedral; and (iii) the continuous traffic in and out of the priests’ sacristy for ten to 15 minutes after the conclusion of the procession that ended Sunday solemn Mass.
The Court held that, on the assumption that the jury had assessed the complainant’s evidence as thoroughly credible and reliable, the evidence of the opportunity witnesses nonetheless required the jury, acting rationally, to have entertained a reasonable doubt as to the applicant’s guilt in relation to the offences involved in both alleged incidents. With respect to each of the applicant’s convictions, there was, consistently with the words the Court used in Chidiac v The Queen (1991) 171 CLR 432 at 444 and M v The Queen (1994) 181 CLR 487 at 494, “a significant possibility that an innocent person has been convicted because the evidence did not establish guilt to the requisitestandard of proof”.
Peg
On the Lancet child and adolescent health regarding school closures. The paper itself is far more equivocal than what was reported in the media and your one sentence summary of it, particularly as school closures are often part of a broader set of measures to combat the spread of this, and other, viruses.
For instance, Dan and Gladys might well point to the paper itself as justifying their actions to keep schools open only for the children of essential workers, take this quote in the discussion, for instance:
“Nonetheless, in a context of high rates of staff absence through disease, school systems will be under strain and schools remaining open only for the children of health-care and other essential workers might be a better strategy than a haphazard process of schools closing and therefore providing no childcare for any essential workers.”
C@tmomma says: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:52 am
I’m lucky, outside my bedroom window we have what we call the “Hanging Restaurant” and the “McDonalds Takeaway” that I put put seed in each morning and then watch the eight or so green rosellas squabbling over eating rights. For the last few mornings there has been the added bonus of a little, somewhat battered, wallaby sitting under my window working her/his way through a handful of seeds and pellets I throw out. Pleasant way to spend some time.
You’re nobody until Coorey’s called you a c**t.
Bushfire Bill @ #176 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 8:11 am
Our legal system is broken.
Can’t wait to see the RC transcripts.
Kronomex,
We are very, very lucky individuals.
I don’t believe that anyone has to be an expert in anything to understand that in every national crisis (floods, bushfires, virus) Morrison has been slow to react and allow the situation to get out of hand and his judgement has always been suspect.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #195 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 10:34 am
Unless of course he didn’t do it. In which case our legal system is perfectly sound.
Holdenhillbilly @ #191 Tuesday, April 7th, 2020 – 10:28 am
(There’s another dedicated thread on this – we should go over there)
This is where I come unstuck. To me, if the complainant’s evidence is thoroughly credible and reliable, then there is no room for reasonable doubt on the basis that certain rituals and practices usually or normally happened. It could have happened (in my mind) because of a window of opportunity that a lapse in regular procedure afforded.
😆 😆 😆 Told you Idiocracy was a documentary. Trump’s trade adviser had a big fight with Dr Fauci the US lead guy in infectious diseases since 1984. The issue , good old hydroxychloroquine. The trade adviser reckons……………
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/06/peter-navarro-fauci-hydroxychloroquine