Pestilential as anything

Democracy battles on in the face of adversity in Queensland and (at least for now) Tasmania, as a poll finds most Australians believe the media is exaggerating the crisis (at least for now).

The campaigns for Queensland’s local government elections and Currumbin and Bundamaba state by-elections next Saturday are proceeding in the most trying of circumstances. My guides to the by-elections can be found on the sidebar; I’ll find something to say about the Brisbane City Council elections, which I have thus far neglected entirely, later this week. Updates:

• The Electoral Commission of Queensland relates that 560,000 postal vote applications have been received for the statewide local government elections, which compares with 260,680 postal votes cast at the previous elections in 2016. However, not all applications will result in completed votes being returned – the conversion rate in Queensland at last year’s federal election was 86.0%. There have also been more than 500,000 pre-poll votes, exceeding the 435,828 cast in 2016 with a week left to go. To those understandably reluctant to turn out on so-called polling day next Saturday, the commission has been expanding opening hours at pre-poll booths. All of which will make the results that come in on Saturday night particularly hard to follow.

• A ban has been imposed on the dissemination of how-to-vote cards and canvassing for votes at polling booths. Booth supervisors may allow the material to be displayed at the booths “in a manner deemed appropriate”.

Elsewhere:

• An international poll by Ipsos on attitudes to coronavirus finds 34% of Australians strongly agree, and 35% somewhat agree, with closing borders until the virus “is proved to be contained”, which is about average among the twelve nations surveyed. The survey has been conducted over four waves going back to early February, in which time the number of respondents identifying a very high or high threat to them personally has risen from around 10% to 23%. However, Australians recorded among the highest response in favour of the proposition that the media was exaggerating about the virus, which actually increased over the past fortnight from the high forties to 58%. A notable outlier in respect of all questions is Italy, where only 29% now say the media is exaggerating the threat, slumping from around 80%.

• Tasmanian Attorney-General Elise Archer announced this week that May 2 elections for the Legislative Council seats of Huon and Rosevears are “safe to proceed”, with “significant measures being put in place to maintain public safety”.

• A Roy Morgan SMS poll of 974 respondents asked whether respondents trusted or distrusted a list of current and former politicians that included Jacinda Ardern, but was apparently otherwise entirely Australian. All we are given at this stage is a top ten list of the best net performers, which is headed by Jacinda Ardern and otherwise notable for not including a single male conservative. However, this is all pretty useless without hard numbers, which will apparently be forthcoming “in coming days”.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Sean Kelly
    @mrseankelly
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    Returning to Oz and seeing how relaxed people are about social distancing has me deeply concerned. Plus cruise ships.

    There’s a lot of faith that ‘she’ll be right’.

    I think changing this should be a major gov priority. Getting that message across may require more measures.

  2. Lars Von Trier @ #10 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 7:50 am

    Where will we be on April 12?

    There’s no doubt we are on the inclinator up, but by how much is the question.

    I think Australian’s haven’t had the “oh shit” moment yet, but its coming – maybe a TV or Sports celebrity being hospitalised with the COVID will do the trick? With vision of them being on a ventilator and maybe a cheesy thumbs up?

    I think the Government has been escalating measures but there has to be social acceptance of social distancing and the like. How many people cannot do without a morning coffee or two? Are the cafes really going to shut for instance.

    I agree with most of the above.

    Why we are so complacent comes down to a combination of:

    1. Youthful bravado and a devil may care attitude amongst a culture that has prospered for the last 30 years. Selfishness is probably in their as well.
    2. The stats show that the real danger for people being infected by the virus is post 70 years of age and/or those with pre-existing health problems that lower their immunity. Most people don’t believe they are in that category. So they are sceptical of the need for the restrictions.
    3. Widespread belief that the media have exaggerated and over hyped the whole issue.
    4. A belief that it’s only the flu and the flu is not deadly.
    5. Government indifference and mixed messages about the true nature of the problem.

  3. Maude Lynne @ #32 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 7:21 am

    lizzie says:
    Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 8:14 am
    We are very likely to develop immunity to COVID-19, making re-infection unlikely and raising the chances of vaccines being highly effective, according to the Australian scientist who discovered an important way the immune system fights viruses.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/doubts-cast-over-contracting-covid-19-twice/12075878

    Whew! That’s a relief.
    So all we have to do is survive the first infection. After that – no problem! 🙂

    That’s better news than the alternative.

  4. Stephen Koukoulas
    @TheKouk
    · 26m

    Morrison saying package is 10% of GDP is not correct:
    Bank guarantees for loan etc is not stimulus – it is an important measure – but not stimulus.
    Cash into the economy is stimulus

  5. Just back from a Saturday night stroll through the village .. weird seeing the pubs and WMC closed 🙁

    The two local chippys were queueing out the doors though, but for the first time during the current crisis the local supermarket had mucho empty shelves .. and I’m out of milk

    One of the local pubs has today set up for takeaway food online and one of the national chains is hawking online ordering of bottled beer – I’m sat here thinking what a shame it is with all that real ale sat spoiling in the cellars 🙁

  6. Mundo

    Labor and the Greens need to start talking about social debt.

    No more pretty names from economists to pretend the economy exists to provide increased profits for a few people instead of services for everyone.

    Profit is a bonus not an essential part of the economy.

    We know the Co operative as a business model works.
    It’s ages old not new and only threatens the Greed is Everything approach to the economy.

  7. Confessions

    The maths in that diagram you posted looks correct.

    Lizzie 8.46

    Kouk is correct and exactly my earlier point – Morrison is falling back to his stock in trade, big announcements, rather than making big policy changes. We need the latter. If you are an unemployed casual with no hours or income, you cannot spend a big announcement. You need cash. Just as Trump needed convincing that the threat of Covid19 was real, I think that Morrison needs convincing that the need for a governmetn stimulus is real. He still lives in the Cronulla bubble. I fear we are headed for a deep recession.

    Albo should not vote against any stimulus measures, but he should point out Labor would support doing more.

    Ironically all those small business operators that faithfully vote Liberal are the very ones about to discover that Scomo has no idea how to save them. I pity their staff though.

  8. Interesting that the 30-39 age group has the highest number of confirmed infections and the highest rate of confirmed infections per capita. No deaths in this age group yet.

    Are these the most likey to be in employment, have children and otherwise most physically mobile? Are they the most cynical about the seriousness of the disease? They’re surely less likely to be on cruise ships.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

  9. Mexicanbeemer

    The “ordinary” workers in the tweet are a hell of a lot more useful than the Wall St. casino whales. You know, the pricks that gave us the GFC , the same pricks with their hands on the same levers today.

  10. Youthful bravado and a devil may care attitude amongst a culture that has prospered for the last 30 years.

    You don’t know how bad. My son showed me a Tik Tok video of an Influencer who was licking a variety of surfaces to prove she was immunie to catching COVID-19 and it was nothing for everyone else to worry about!

    Yes, it’s about Millennials getting a dose of reality, I reckon.

  11. Just getting concerned that the Coles website is still down.
    As I have used their service for years and I have a credit to be used up, I am reluctant to register with Woolies at this point.

    Is it just me – can anyone else get Coles Online up?

  12. laughtong @ #67 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 8:10 am

    Just getting concerned that the Coles website is still down.
    As I have used their service for years and I have a credit to be used up, I am reluctant to register with Woolies at this point.

    Is it just me – can anyone else get Coles Online up?

    out for maintenance

  13. laughtong @ #67 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 8:10 am

    Just getting concerned that the Coles website is still down.
    As I have used their service for years and I have a credit to be used up, I am reluctant to register with Woolies at this point.

    Is it just me – can anyone else get Coles Online up?

    I’m sure you can be signed up with both companies simultaneously. See which one is able to deliver first.

  14. poroti says:
    Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

    Mexicanbeemer

    The “ordinary” workers in the tweet are a hell of a lot more useful than the Wall St. casino whales. You know, the pricks that gave us the GFC , the same pricks with their hands on the same levers today
    ———————————–
    The GFC had many fathers from government, regulators, rating agencies, central banks and the banks but this situation is entirely different.

  15. Amazing to hear journalists on Insiders scolding media coverage of coronavirus for being sensationalist, lacking in fact and hyper.

    This is the same media and journalists that have sensationalised, hyped and lacked facts for as long as I can remember.

  16. laughtong @ #67 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 9:10 am

    Just getting concerned that the Coles website is still down.
    As I have used their service for years and I have a credit to be used up, I am reluctant to register with Woolies at this point.

    Is it just me – can anyone else get Coles Online up?

    The website is down

    Coles Online is currently down for scheduled maintenance.
    We expect to be back online soon. Thank you for your patience.

    I registered with Woolworths years ago but have never used the service.

    You can apply for deliveries as a PCC – Elderly – Disabled – person. I have done so and am told that a reply will be forthcoming in 48 hours (or so).

    I would sooner go with Coles and expect a similar arrangement “real soon now.”

  17. Allowing people to access their super is the most short sighted economically irresponsibly stupid policy i have ever seen.

  18. Confessions @ #71 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 8:14 am

    Amazing to hear journalists on Insiders scolding media coverage of coronavirus for being sensationalist, lacking in fact and hyper.

    This is the same media and journalists that have sensationalised, hyped and lacked facts for as long as I can remember.

    Take their criticisms seriously when they actually name and shame their own colleagues, editors and employers. Until then it is always them over there who is the bad uns.

  19. Peter van Onselen
    @vanOnselenP
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    There is absolutely no doubt the opposition leader and one other shadow minister should be added to the so-called national cabinet. Not doing so is a mixture of partisan game playing and stubbornness.

  20. The Guardian

    Meanwhile, Guardian Australia’s political editor Katharine Murphy is on the virtual Insiders couch this morning, and just made this very good point about the way the media ought to cover the coronavirus crisis.

    At all times, and particularly now, we need to get our facts right. We need to get the information correct. We also need to counter, wherever we can, misinformation, which is ubiquitous in relation to this issue.

    There are rumours pounding through social media: there are outright deceptions. Fraudulent information is circulating. Whenever and wherever possible, the mainstream media needs to try to counter that misinformation and disinformation.

    The other thing we really need to do is to continue to ask questions, which is our job. Now, we can’t be stunned into some sort of silence or timidity because the times are very serious… But what we need to very much desist from, in my view, is gratuitous reporting, grandstanding, and also seeking contention for its own sake.

    There’s a lot of the 24-7 media cycle now where contention is baked into the business. Contention is basically the drum beat of modern news coverage. Now, we need to ask question, but we don’t need to contention shop, for want of a better word.

  21. Chalmers could’ve said the reason Albo should be part of the national cabinet is because Labor has a proven successful track record of delivering effective stimulus during a time of crisis.

  22. Lenore Taylor – The coronavirus story is unfathomably large. We must get the reporting right

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/22/the-coronavirus-story-is-unfathomably-large-we-must-get-the-reporting-right

    Above all else – as our global editor in chief, Katharine Viner, promised readers this week – we must provide reliable, factual, trustworthy information that holds firm against the conspiracy theories and misinformation swirling through social media. Being part of a global news organisation dedicated to deep factual reporting of this global crisis gives us strength and depth. We will track the best information on the disease and its treatment, question how authorities are handling the crisis, consider how decisions affect everyone, including the vulnerable, and try to understand the social and economic impacts as they strike.
    :::
    How, for example, should we balance legitimate questioning of government decisions with the danger of further undermining public faith in expert advice and institutions? Of course we condemn shock jock Alan Jones for asserting that concerns about Covid-19 amount to “hysteria and alarmism … the health version of global warming”, especially irresponsible considering the age demographic of his audience. But what about much more informed criticism of the Australian government, and its advice from the chief medical officer, from respected ABC presenter Norman Swan or health adviser Bill Bowtell, or the analysis of the various “endgame options” from the Grattan Institute that Guardian Australia published this weekend.
    :::
    But we have to consider the implications of those questions at a time when faith in public institutions is already shaky. A deeply polarised country needs to trust and stick with a plan. Yes, politicians may have done much to breed that lack of trust, but there are consequences for everyone if contempt for government undermines the need for a unified and urgent response to public health measures. When does legitimate scrutiny cross the line to become counterproductive? These difficult judgments must be made on a daily basis.

  23. Stephen Koukoulas
    @TheKouk
    ·
    32s
    If access to super is part of the package, watch the ASX get smashed tomorrow – traders will sell in advance of super withdrawals:
    People will cash out super the market is weak.
    A really poor policy:
    Just give people cash

  24. @TomthunkitsMind
    ·
    9h
    DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE:

    American televangelist Jim Bakker is selling a liquid that allegedly ‘kills’ the coronavirus for $300

    So even this evangelist doesn’t believe in prayer alone. Just cash!

  25. My family including my own siblings etc have taken covid19 seriously and this was before the Italian tragedy was unfolding.

    And I was certain , when Trump said it was a hoax and played it down.

    It was reported that the intelligence services had been briefing him on the seriousness of the matter since early January.

    When I saw one of his early pressers saying that they had it under control and only a few people had it, and the virus was going to disappear. I knew the USA were stuffed and by extension everywhere else.

    It resulted in my family member cancelling trip to the USA.

  26. Confessions @ #79 Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 – 9:24 am

    Chalmers could’ve said the reason Albo should be part of the national cabinet is because Labor has a proven successful track record of delivering effective stimulus during a time of crisis.

    Exactly.
    Labor has a poor record of selling it’s achievements.
    They still haven’t worked out if they don’t no one else will.

  27. Call to protect asylum seeker detainees from coronavirus

    https://croakey.org/call-to-protect-asylum-seeker-detainees-from-coronavirus/

    Infectious disease specialists have called on the Australian Government to consider the release of around 1,400 asylum seekers and other “non-citizens” being held in detention in crowded conditions that would preclude adequate protection against COVID-19.

    The call follows the publication of an open letter from more than 370 legal experts calling on Australian governments to reduce the risk of transmission of COVID-19 in the criminal justice system, especially prisons and youth detention centres.

    The Australasian Society for Infectious Diseases (ASID) and the Australian College of Infection Prevention and Control (ACIPC) have published a joint statement, warning of the risk to the health of both staff and detainees in immigration detention facilities, and then beyond to the broader Australian community.

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