Call of the board: regional Victoria

Part four in the region-by-region review of the results in each seat at the May federal election.

This site’s slow-moving Call of the Board series, which takes a closer look at the results for every seat at the May 18 election, now makes it to regional Victoria. This area once enjoyed its fair share of marginal seats (see Ballarat, Bendigo and Monash/McMillan below), but now has only Corangamite to offer in the way of reliable election night seats-to-watch. Nonetheless, there were a few interesting things going on in the results for those who cared to look. (And while you’re here, note also the post on Brexit developments immediately below this one).

Ballarat (Labor 11.0%; 3.6% swing to Labor): Labor has been strengthening in this once highly marginal seat since Catherine King gained it at the 2001 election, at which it was the only seat in the country to shift from Coalition to Labor (with some help from the retirement of Michael Ronaldson, later a Senator). The only serious speed bump in that time was a 6.8% swing to the Liberals in 2013, reducing her margin to 4.9%, which she has now almost made good with successive swings of 2.4% and 3.6%. The Liberal primary vote on this occasion was down 4.0% despite the absence of the Nationals, who polled 4.2% in 2016, although they did face new competition on the right from the United Australia Party, which polled 4.6%.

Bendigo (Labor 9.0%; 5.2% swing to Labor): Victoria’s other regional city seat has followed a similar pattern to Ballarat over time: won by Labor from the Liberals in 1998, retained only narrowly in 2004 and 2013, and now looking secure again after successive swings of 2.5% and 5.2% in 2016 and 2019. The current member, Lisa Chesters, has now almost made up the 8.2% swing she suffered when she came to the seat on Steve Gibbons’ retirement in 2013. The Liberal primary vote was down 6.1% amid an overload of competition on the right, with One Nation, Conservative National and Rise Up Australia all in the field alongside the ubiquitous United Australia Party.

Casey (Liberal 4.6%; 0.1% swing to Liberal): Located on Melbourne’s eastern outskirts and held for the Liberals by the Speaker, Tony Smith, Casey was one of many Victorian seats that looked promising for Labor after the state election, but singularly failed to deliver on the day. Smith actually picked up a very slightly swing on two-party preferred, and none of the primary vote swings were particularly significant. Labor tended to do better in the more urbanised western end of the electorate, particularly in those parts of it newly added from La Trobe in the redistribution.

Corangamite (LABOR NOTIONAL GAIN 1.1%; 1.0% swing to Labor): Corangamite was designated as a notional Labor seat by the barest possible margin, so whoever received the swing was almost certain to win the seat. That proved to be Labor’s Libby Coker, just, in a result perfectly in line with the state average. Defeated Liberal member Sarah Henderson picked up a few swings in the booths newly added to the electorate on the Bellarine Peninsula, but the Great Ocean Road swung to Labor, reflecting its affluent and educated sea-changer demographic. The Greens were down 3.0% on the primary vote, as voters situated in the state’s south-west failed to warm to a candidate called Simon Northeast.

Corio (Labor 10.3%; 2.1% swing to Labor): Labor’s Richard Marles picked up 4.2% on the primary vote and 2.1% on two-party preferred, the former assisted by a small field of four candidates. The Liberals picked up some swings in Geelong’s down-market north, but the city centre and its surrounds went solidly to Labor.

Flinders (Liberal 5.6%; 1.4% swing to Labor): One of many disappointments for Labor was their failure to seriously threaten Greg Hunt in an area that had swung forcefully their way at the state election. Hunt was also little troubled by Julia Banks, who managed 13.8% of the primary vote, well behind Labor on 24.7%. Banks’s presence cut into the vote share for Liberal, Labor and the Greens – Hunt was down 3.8% to 46.7%, and needed preferences to win the seat for the first time since he came to it in 2001.

Gippsland (Nationals 16.7%; 1.5% swing to Labor): For reasons not immediately apparent, Labor was up 3.0% on the primary vote and cut slightly into what remains a secure margin for Nationals member Darren Chester.

Indi (Independent 1.4% versus Liberal; 4.1% swing to Liberal): As a number of highly trumpeted independents failed to live up to the hype elsewhere, Helen Haines performed a remarkable feat in retaining the independent mantle of Cathy McGowan. Haines’ primary vote of 32.4% was only slightly short of McGowan’s 34.8% on her re-election in 2016, although the Liberals put up a stronger show after gouging half of the Nationals vote. An interesting feature of the result was the 7.7% swing to the Liberals on two-party-preferred versus Labor, suggesting Haines’ preferences favoured the Liberals more strongly than did McGowan’s.

La Trobe (Liberal 4.5%; 1.3% swing to Liberal): A swing to the Liberals in Melbourne marginals was not a feature of too many pre-election predictions, but such was the outcome in La Trobe. Both major parties were up slightly on the primary vote amid a smaller field of candidates than 2016.

Mallee (Nationals 16.2%; 3.6% swing to Labor): Vacated with the demise of Andrew Broad’s two-term career, this was retained by the Nationals against a challenge from the Liberals, as it was in 2013 when Broad succeeded John Forrest. Liberal candidate Serge Petrovich actually fell out of the preference candidate before Labor, despite outpolling them 18.8% to 15.7% on the primary vote, and his preferences duly delivered a large winning margin to Nationals candidate Anne Webster. Webster would likely have won the seat even if Petrovich had survived to the final count, given her 27.9% to 18.8% advantage on the primary vote.

McEwen (Labor 5.0%; 1.0% swing to Liberal): Despite being an area of dynamic growth, particularly around Mernda and Doreen at Melbourne’s northern edge, McEwen turned in a largely static result on this occasion. This was in contrast to its form at the five elections from 2004 to 2016, when two-party swings ranged from 4.1% to 9.0%. Both major parties were down slightly on the primary vote as One Nation took to the field, scoring 5.9%, and Labor member Rob Mitchell’s two-party margin was slightly clipped after a blowout win in 2016.

Monash (Liberal 7.4%; 0.2% swing to Labor): The solid margin built up by Russell Broadbent since 2004 in the seat formerly known as McMillan was little disturbed, although the 7.6% recorded by One Nation took a 3.6% bite out of his primary vote. A noteworthy feature of the result was a heavy swing to the Liberals in the Latrobe Valley towns of Moe and Newborough, a pattern reflected in coal and electricity producing areas across the country.

Nicholls (Nationals 20.0%; 2.5% swing to Labor): After a three-cornered contest in 2016, in which Damian Drum gained the seat for the Nationals on the retirement of Liberal member Sharman Stone, the Liberals vacated the field in Nicholls (formerly Murray), and Drum retained the seat with a majority of the primary vote. One Nation polled 11.3%, easily the best result of the five seats they contested in Victoria.

Wannon (Liberal 10.4%; 1.2% swing to Liberal): Liberal member Dan Tehan picked up slight favourable swings on both the primary and two-party vote. Former Triple J presenter Alex Dyson polled 10.4% as an independent.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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    Good morning Dawn Patrollers. And now it’s off for yet another Bunnings sausage sizzle.

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    Rob Harris goes a bit deeper.
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    Even deeper go three law academics in an informative contribution inThe Conversation.
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    https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-is-not-a-religious-freedom-bill-it-s-a-licence-to-hate-20190829-p52m5h.html
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    churches-mount-revolt-on-draft-laws/news-story/e798d46133b4d1fe418e56ebbd437352

    Michelle Grattan says the Religious Discrimination legislation would hit big companies harder than small business.
    https://theconversation.com/religious-discrimination-legislation-would-hit-big-companies-harder-than-small-business-122623
    Benjamin Press reports on how Victorian Labor MP Paul Edbrooke has opened up about the sexual abuse his father suffered at the hands of a Catholic clergyman while taking aim at Melbourne Archbishop Peter Comensoli’s controversial refusal to comply with new mandatory reporting laws.
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    Brigid Delaney writes about the effect on the Catholic church of the Pell verdict.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/30/losing-my-religion-after-the-pell-verdict-the-conflict-for-catholics
    A corruption inquiry, new university rules, an internet cable under the Pacific. The government can’t even separate its domestic economic agenda from China, writes Philip Coorey.
    https://outline.com/qUPbvR
    Michelle Grattan reckons Australia isn’t avoiding prodding the Chinese bear.
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    Declassified documents show the then foreign minister Alexander Downer was angered by leaks showing Australia rejected US request for peacekeepers for East Timor.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/30/infuriated-alexander-downer-tried-to-get-us-officials-to-back-up-response-to-east-timor-leaks
    Shane Wright and Eryk Bagshaw team up again to explain how new figures show that remote parts of the country have shed up to a third of their population and turned away from the major political parties.
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    There is a risk of “catastrophic failure” if Australia adopts nuclear energy, a federal parliamentary inquiry has heard from Ziggy Switkowski.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/risk-of-catastrophic-failure-if-australia-adopts-nuclear-energy-20190829-p52m2h.html
    Mike Pezzollo called the deputy commissioner of the Australian Federal Police to congratulate him on raiding the home of a journalist. But he had nothing to do with it did he?
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    Security firm Paladin was fined more than a thousand times for “performance failures” by the Home Affairs department, even as officials insisted they were happy with its delivery of a $532 million contract, new documents show.
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    Tory McGuire explores the stark choices we face as the trade war continues.
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    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/australia-backs-wrong-horse-as-ip-rights-loom-large-in-us-china-trade-war/
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    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/suppression-is-about-more-than-press-freedom,13051
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    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/we-re-starting-to-get-an-insight-into-the-new-woolies-ecosystem-20190829-p52lyt.html
    Meanwhile David Jones will close and shrink stores as part of a new aggressive relationship with its landlords in response to a consumer spending slump that has almost halved the department store chain’s profit.
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    We have the blueprint for liveable, low-carbon cities. We just need to use it explains Professor Deo Prasad.
    https://theconversation.com/we-have-the-blueprint-for-liveable-low-carbon-cities-we-just-need-to-use-it-121615
    In order to counteract the effects of global warming, we need to consider ways to enhance biodiversity within our cities, writes Dr Peter Fisher.
    https://independentaustralia.net/environment/environment-display/extinction-debt-urban-biodiversity-may-be-the-answer,13054
    Proroguing parliament sets a horrifying precedent. I’m going to court to stop it writes businesswoman Gina Miller.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/29/proroguing-parliament-precedent-boris-johnson-high-court
    The New York Times explains the Trump secrets hiding inside Deutsche Bank.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/the-trump-secrets-hiding-inside-deutsche-bank-20190829-p52ltg.html
    Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source says as his lawyers cast doubt o the suicide theory.
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    For today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week” we have this bastard (when they catch him).
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/29/wedge-tailed-eagles-among-120-native-birds-found-dead-in-victoria-after-suspected-poisoning

    Cartoon Corner

    More great work from Mark David.




    Cathy Wilcox gives us the ICAC cycle.

    From Matt Golding.






    What a classic from David Rowe!

    A health report from Jim Pavlidis.

    Zanetti seems to forget who else Huang has showered with donations.

    Jon Kudelka with the trouble Morrison has with the religious freedom bill.
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    From the US.









  2. Re Corangamite-“but the Great Ocean Road swung to Labor, reflecting its affluent and educated sea-changer demographic”

    I cant’ stand this demographic. They come in with thier McMansions, Audi cars , puffer jackets and no concern for the local environment and act like they own the place and have lived here for years.

    Go back to where you came from.

  3. The Home Affairs guards must be very weak, scared little guys, for all their black uniforms, if it takes 20 of them to separate a couple and their two tiny children and drag them to a plane.

    The trauma suffered by this family will have destroyed the rest of their lives, wherever they end up.

  4. John SchindlerVerified account@20committee
    7h7 hours ago
    OMG! Comey had a bit of CONFIDENTIAL mislabeled!!

    This is the “scandal,” folks.

    Nobody gets prosecuted for mishandling C, which is barely classified at all.

    Nobody.

    https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf

    What happened is that the Inspector General reiterated Trump’s tweeted lies about the supposed illegality of Comey’s actions. Yet again the only ‘FAKE NEWS!’ comes from Trump’s twitter account.

    Enter Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz. His report reiterates that DOJ declined prosecution — which by Trump’s own standards is an exoneration. The DOJ could not find that Comey broke the law. The president lied when he accused Comey of violating laws protecting classified information. In a lengthy recap of the memos, Comey’s copying of the memos, his providing memos to the press via a friend and Comey’s testimony, the inspector general repeats several times that there was no prosecution.

    That finding is buried in the Trump-Barr cloud of spin, which looks at whether Comey, in attempting to document gross misconduct by the president of the United States, did not follow department procedure. Former federal prosecutor Joyce White Vance tells me, “This debunks the myth from the right that Comey would be prosecuted for his actions. The conclusion of the report questions the ethics of his conduct, but not its legality.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/29/dojs-inspector-general-buries-lede/

  5. taylormade @ #4 Friday, August 30th, 2019 – 7:56 am

    Re Corangamite-“but the Great Ocean Road swung to Labor, reflecting its affluent and educated sea-changer demographic”

    I cant’ stand this demographic. They come in with thier McMansions, Audi cars , puffer jackets and no concern for the local environment and act like they own the place and have lived here for years.

    Go back to where you came from.

    Ha! Ha! Ha! They do it up here on the Central Coast as well, but they come to formerly Labor voting areas and they stay and vote Liberal.

    They should go back to the North Shore and the Northern Beaches, where they came from! 😀

  6. Mind. Blown.

    When Andrew Kaplan reminisces, his engrossing tales leave the impression that he’s managed to pack multiple lives into a single existence: globe-trotting war correspondent in his 20s, a member of the Israeli army who fought in the Six-Day War, successful entrepreneur and, later, the author of numerous spy novels and Hollywood scripts.

    Now — as the silver-haired 78-year-old unwinds with his wife of 39 years in a suburban oasis outside Palm Springs — he has realized he would like his loved ones to have access to those stories, even when he’s no longer alive to share them. Kaplan has agreed to become “AndyBot,” a virtual person who will be immortalized in the cloud for hundreds, perhaps thousands, of years.

    If all goes according to plan, future generations will be able to interact with him using mobile devices or voice computing platforms such as Amazon’s Alexa, asking him questions, eliciting stories and drawing upon a lifetime’s worth of advice long after his physical body is gone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/29/hey-google-let-me-talk-my-departed-father/

  7. Good Morning

    Confessions

    Thats why AI is such a threat to jobs and you have candidates in the US running with a Job Guarantee policy and a UBI policy. The automation threat to jobs is real. There will not be enough jobs to replace them.

    As you see Newsreaders are under threat. So are paralegals. Thats the level of sophistication expected. Drivers of trucks are a little further behind being replaced on the timeline thanks to randomness on the roads. When we change laws so that we have roads that no person or bike shares it we will replace drivers too.

    A lot of people are in denial that this change of the industrial revolution is a real threat to the structure of society we have not seen since the first industrial revolution

  8. Sri Lanka is not safe for many. We know this. It was not that long ago that there was a massacre and the government control shown to be fragile despite their brutality.

    This with a community that has signed a petition to keep that family here. They are no danger to our country. They are being used purely to send a signal just like Trump is doing with his family separation.

    We have a cruel inhumane human rights abusing government with an empathy deficit.
    As the consequences to the family from the trauma last night show.
    Shame on our government. Shame shame shame.

    @susanamet tweets

    “They’re good people. Good hard workers. So they fit into the town really well. They’re little Queenslanders”
    #Biloela #hometoBilo https://twitter.com/HometoBilo/status/1166532602410352640

    @HometoBilo tweets

    Thank you to Banana Shire Mayor Nev Ferrier for speaking up for Priya, Nades the the girls. Right now, our phone calls are keeping this family safe. Can you tap http://bit.ly/RingthePM and make your call to the PM’s office now? #Biloela #hometoBilo https://twitter.com/HometoBilo/status/1166532602410352640/video/1

  9. lizzie says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:21 am

    The children are not Australian Citizens and are the responsibility of the parents.

    They have lost every single court case all the way to the High Court.

    They are not refugees.

    They are terrorists.

    They should be removed immediately back to Sri Lanka.

  10. Boerwar:

    The royal commission would’ve led to the scales falling from the eyes of many catholic Australians, I’m sure. The Pell conviction no doubt capped it.

  11. Greensborough Growler says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:32 am

    This couple’s families on both sides were senior Tamil Tigers. This isn’t just about them being Sri Lankan. They are Tamil Tigers. They are War Criminals.

    If it was a KKK family from Arkansas you would all be baying for blood.

  12. Bucephalus

    Thus speaks the voice of Empathy deficit. The minister has a legal role to consider things like the petition by the community that has accepted them.

    However here you are cheering the inhumane zero tolerance policy. Full of empathy deficit. Full of ignoring the real danger to people in Sri Lanka that our system ignores. We have sent people back to danger and had people executed already.

    Its all to send a message to people smugglers and instead of punishing the people smugglers we have chosen to punish those that come here by boat and not by plane as Kenneally has been busy pointing out.

    Only a sociopath government with no feelings abuses human rights and uses the fear of a flood of boats as a political tool to dog whistle racism to the electorate.

  13. Michael Koziol @michaelkoziol
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    31m
    Peter Dutton on #hometobilo this morning: “I would like the family to accept that they are not refugees, they’re not owed protection by our country. They came here by boat from the West Indies and we’ve been very clear that they couldn’t stay.” #auspol

  14. Interesting that the Tamil Tigers have lost every court case to the High Court but are absolved of any legal responsibility but Pell, who is still in an appeals process, is given no quarter.

  15. They were indeed.

    Evan McMurry
    @evanmcmurry
    · 1h
    In powerful remarks, U.S. Attorney Justin Herdman calls out white supremacists while announcing charges against a man accused of threatening an attack on Jewish community center.

    “Those actions don’t make you soldiers, they make you cowards.” http://abcn.ws/32h2Qp1

  16. Bucephalus

    It’s the physical cruelty by the guards which gets to me. Wrenching a woman’s shoulder, separating parents and toddlers, what is the point except to treat them as if they were dangerous criminals?

  17. guytaur says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:42 am

    I don’t normally read your compost but I did see you claim Australia sent a Sri Lankan back to be executed. Where’s your evidence?

  18. @Pollytics tweeted yesterday

    You have to be a weird unit as a man to worry about toilets. We walk with determination to the trough, look at our dick, look at the wall – never, ever anywhere else – shake, wash, leave. There could be a dead body on the ground and most of us would never see it

  19. ‘Confessions says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:40 am

    Boerwar:

    The royal commission would’ve led to the scales falling from the eyes of many catholic Australians, I’m sure. The Pell conviction no doubt capped it.’

    I think that the beauty of Delaney’s article is that it is honest at a personal and at a professional level. The sense of angst and of loss is palpable, is real, and has integrity. Losing your faith is a big deal. It creates a meaning void that people who were of faith find very difficult to fill.

    IMO, most practising catholics bP are probably still practising catholics aP. Also, as Delaney points out, many who were on the cusp of ‘losing their faith’ and/or becoming non-practising catholics have probably received the final little push that moves them past the threshold.

  20. Bucephalus @ #18 Friday, August 30th, 2019 – 8:42 am

    Greensborough Growler says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:32 am

    This couple’s families on both sides were senior Tamil Tigers. This isn’t just about them being Sri Lankan. They are Tamil Tigers. They are War Criminals.

    If it was a KKK family from Arkansas you would all be baying for blood.

    I don’t do baying. You can say what you like. I can treat it with contempt.

  21. This thread is the definition of the hypocrisy of the Left.

    Yesterday everyone was up in arms that Boris Johnson isn’t using legal means in the spirit of the law in prorogueing parliament and now they just want to ignore all our courts up to the High Court.

  22. Ben Davison @ClubeGaffer
    18m
    If two little girls, born here, can be exiled because their relatives were born overseas then what’s stopping Morrison’s cruel mind from finding ways to exile you? Your family? Your friends?

  23. lizzie @ #20 Friday, August 30th, 2019 – 8:43 am

    Michael Koziol @michaelkoziol
    ·
    31m
    Peter Dutton on #hometobilo this morning: “I would like the family to accept that they are not refugees, they’re not owed protection by our country. They came here by boat from the West Indies and we’ve been very clear that they couldn’t stay.” #auspol

    They’re Jamaican!?! 😯

  24. lizzie @ #32 Friday, August 30th, 2019 – 8:51 am

    Ben Davison @ClubeGaffer
    18m
    If two little girls, born here, can be exiled because their relatives were born overseas then what’s stopping Morrison’s cruel mind from finding ways to exile you? Your family? Your friends?

    Because my family was here before Morrison’s family. So, if I go, he has to go. 😀

  25. Cat

    Buce also conveniently ignores its part of the legal process for the minister to have the ability to make the final say. The government fought tooth and nail to make it so.

  26. Boerwar says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:51 am

    I have been following the story for years and the families were high level Tamil Tigers. That’s one of the reasons there is an adverse finding against them in terms of security clearance. And it’s not just a case of them being some baggy arsed villagers roped into it – well off families who were high level commanders.

    I didn’t keep a file on it and I’m not going to spend my time searching for you. You can choose to disbelieve me if you wish.

  27. Bucephalus @ #31 Friday, August 30th, 2019 – 8:51 am

    This thread is the definition of the hypocrisy of the Left.

    Yesterday everyone was up in arms that Boris Johnson isn’t using legal means in the spirit of the law in prorogueing parliament and now they just want to ignore all our courts up to the High Court.

    I know it wasn’t everyone. So, you not only label children as terrorists, but you lie about other posters to rationalise your putrid views.

  28. Buce

    What you report actually proves the danger to the family case. There is no doubt about the punishment regime of the Sri Lankan government in such cases.

    It also proves that they don’t have a reason to be “terrorists” in Australia. Instead the intelligence agencies are being lazy to avoid monitoring in case of a Hilton Hotel style bombing

  29. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-women-workplace-study-harassment-harvard-metoo

    I find this to be an objectional article as to content and as to tone.

    On the one hand there has arisen something of an expectation that a #metoo allegation is proven until the perp manages to prove his innocence if he can. On the other hand there is a rather angry objection by the writer to men responding by avoiding situations in which they might be the subject of unfounded allegations with no defence other than he said/she said.

    One reason that the proportion of male teachers is falling is because a single accusation by a single kid can stain a teacher’s reputation and damage a career.

    If men in other workplaces are responding with similar risk avoidance and/or minimization strategies, who can blame them?

    There were some blanket behaviours I adopted in various workplaces to protect myself against possible false allegations. It was not that I was ‘terrified’ of women. It was practical common sense. In retrospect and beyond any shadow of a doubt, I am certain that this blanket behaviour saved me from having to confront false and malicious allegations of sexual assault from a particular individual.

  30. For all the money that has been spent on flying the family around, and keeping them in detention, a security guard could have been watching them 24/7. The way this Home Affairs Dept spends money is illogical and simply wants to be seen as threatening.

  31. ‘lizzie says:
    Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Boerwar

    Ironic that Pell fought to conceal wrongdoing to protect “his” Church, and has brought more shame to it.’

    It is a universal response of senior management of large organizations to try and protect an organization’s brand or reputation. Sometimes this protective behaviour is warranted. At other times it is not warranted.
    But one thing is certain. As you point out, if the protective behaviours come unstuck they become doubly destructive of the organisation.

  32. @terrimbutler tweets

    Let them stay @PeterDutton_MP @DavidColemanMP #hometobilo https://twitter.com/Rashidajourno/status/1167190107515957248

    @Rashidajourno tweets

    Tamil family land in Darwin after last-minute injunction blocks deportation. Their fate will now be decided at an urgent court hearing in Melbourne on Friday morning at 10am.
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/tamil-family-land-in-darwin-after-last-minute-injunction-blocks-deportation?cid=newsapp:socialshare:twitter
    via @SBSNews #hometobilo

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