The Australian brings us a second Newspoll in consecutive weeks, perhaps portending weekly results from now to the election. It shows no change from last week on two-party preferred, with Labor maintaining its 52-48 lead, but both major parties are up on the primary vote – Labor by two and the Coalition by one, leaving them tied on 39%. The Greens are steady on 9% and One Nation are, interestingly, down two to 4%. All we are told of the leaders’ ratings at this stage is that they are “virtually unchanged”. Scott Morrison is unchanged on 45% approval and up one to 44% disapproval; Bill Shorten is unchanged on both measures, at 37% and 51%; and preferred prime minister is likewise unchanged, at 46-35 in favour of Morrison. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1697.
AE
Yeah,nah.
Chinese phone camera
https://twitter.com/b_momani/status/1117493976171290625
I just watched the Morrison presser and I have to admit it wasn’t a train wreck, he was pretty smooth. It doesn’t mean I agreed with him, but he’s getting his lines well organised. (He kept glancing to his left. Would there have been a prompt there?
Greens policy writ large.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/73e559ab505940090eced4eccca4978d?width=1024
Lizzie
Being polished and ignoring awkward journalists questions is a train wreck.
Its a big vote loser.
Having Malcolm Roberts on Q & A is just the latest sign of dumbing down of political discourse here.
Q & A for mine is just a modified version of the program Monday Conference which ran on the ABC in the 1970s, with Robert Moore as the anchor. But Monday Conference tended to have genuinely significant people as guests: two who stick in my mind were Lee Kuan Yew and F A Hayek. Now the guests mainly seem to be clickbait.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #332 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:44 am
Of course. And those voters aren’t going to feel compelled to preference a party that’s constantly attacking them. It doesn’t take very many miffed Greens voters to shift the outcome when you’ve got Labor on 39%, Greens on 10%, and Others on 12%.
Only a bully thinks they can repeatedly attack someone and then still count on their support. Usually it works well enough for them until one day when it suddenly and unexpectedly doesn’t.
In Breaking news: Clive palmer to pay QNI workers their entitlements.
zoomster@7:51am
“the behaviour of some Greens posters is extremely psrtisan”
They know that their party is completely dysfunctional in NSW, VIC and SA.
The only way they think they can hold on to their 9% vote share is by being aggressive against ALP and trying to show that LIB-LAB same same on websites like these. It worked in VIC and NSW state elections where they got 3 seats each. It also helps their cause by showing Shorten in poor light. In all this what upsets me most is that they never attack LNP although they are the government. If they by any chance attack them, it is usually a slap on the wrist.
P1, who is one of most environmentally conscious on PB and who wants political parties to take agressive measures against climate change, is not a supporter of Greens. What that shows is 2 things
1. People who are environmentally conscious believe that Greens cannot deliver climate change solutions
2. The bulk of the people who support Greens party are socialists and communists.
GG
Thanks for sharing. Good to see. Elections do have consequences:)
Pedant
Who would be the equivalent calibre of Lee Kuan Yew and F A Hayek today?
Q&A gets it’s foreign academics right sometime and I doubt a foreign leader would subjected themselves to something that unscripted.
Ven
Wow talk about a partisan post.
Greensborough Growler @ #357 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:15 am
I have questions.
1. What would the Administrators want with ‘political gain’? Are they running for Parliament too?
2. How long is the assessment process to determine, for a given worker, what amount has not been already paid by the liquidators? I’m guessing it’s longer than the election cycle.
3. What safeguards are in place to ensure that Clive holds to his word after the Federal election is over, and doesn’t just chuck all claims into the indefinite ‘waiting for assessment’ black hole? I’m guessing none.
a r @ #298 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:11 am
Isn’t Adani also doing a solar project in FNQ?
There is some inherent racism in attitudes being expressed to the man. Oppose the mine, not the man and everything his company does.
Torchbearer @ #299 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:11 am
I would like to see the Libs asked just what they mean by ‘The Economy’ and what are its supposed strengths.
When unpacked into its elements, it really is not all that flash and there are many vulnerabilities.
EGW
It would be racist to exclude Mr Adani from the same scrutiny as Murdoch Elon Musk etc.
zoomster @ #302 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:14 am
Greens have attended ALP events in Chisholm, including, I suspect, Pegasus!
They are treated with civility.
a r @ #362 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:22 am
Yep,
All good points. Palmer has a track record of reneging on commitments. So, we’ll just have to wait and see. Now that Clive is flush again I imagine he can afford this gesture. He’s obviously desperate to get back in to Parliament and given the TV, texting and billboard campaign he’s run thus far, money does not seem to be any impediment.
Gareth @10.18am
Indeed, there is nobody quite like Lee Kuan Yew. But someone like the current NZ PM springs to mind.
EGW
The exception to the civility thing I have heard about is the LNP.
Not surprising from a party that recently brawled in a faction meeting at a cafe.
lizzie
(He kept glancing to his left. Would there have been a prompt there?)
There appeared to be a prompt at Scott’s meeting yesterday
The cameras should show TelePrompTer all the time at every presentation Labor or Liberal. If there is a venue in natural presentation fake presentations should be heigh lighted.
TPOF
Thank you for taking the time to get my head straight.
I’ll try and stay with the program.
It just all sounds a bit too nuanced.
You can try and coax that walnut kernel out of the shell.
Or you can hit the nut with a hammer. Gently.
a r @ #356 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:12 am
By way of observation, the problem is that the Greens – and by that I mean their MPs – are constantly attacking Labor. On the other hand, Labor MPs don’t usually return fire.
You seem to be conflating what happens on PB with the real world.
Am I right in assuming that every single penny Clive spends on his election campaign is tax deductible? If so, I bet he’s got a big tax bill coming up
Lizzie
It’s worse than smooth. He looks and sounds confident.
Lee Kwan Yew is nothing like the present prime minister of New Zealand.
He oversaw the transition of the social democratic People Action’s Party into what is effectively a right wing “benign” dictatorship, with all the elements of regressive (eg. anti-gay) social policy, unbridled captialism and neoliberalism. Singapore has no minimum wage.
Good riddance and I hope he is enjoying his time in purgatory, long may he remain there.
No doubt LNP’s war on elec vehicles will soon fade in well populated states.
KayJay @ #319 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:25 am
Your posts have the outstanding virtue of being amusing.
autocrat @ #373 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:30 am
Yeah, Di Natale especially. I condemn the Greens attacks on Labor just as much as the converse. Neither thing is helpful when it comes to getting rid of the Coalition.
Fair point.
Does Frydenburg even have his boss Scrot on his campaign material?
‘has a government ever had three years of losing poll results and then won an election?’
Not yet, but you can feel the media just itching to tell that story……
guytaur
Did you catch up with results in Finland?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47893264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Finnish_parliamentary_election
I presume the Social Democratic Party will be able to form a governing coalition, but it seems as complex as Sweden. Who are in fact also represented by the “Swedish People’s Party” !
Andrew_Earlwood @ #328 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 9:38 am
This is widely denied on PB.
“Only a bully thinks they can repeatedly attack someone and then still count on their support. Usually it works well enough for them until one day when it suddenly and unexpectedly doesn’t.”
It’s not the green voter who is under attack. Labor supporters on PB are simply responding to political terrorism of the Greens politburo. Labor politicians have now found their range in dealing with the Greens and do so with more tact and foreberance than us key board warriors on here. More power to them. That said, the fundamentals are the same as being advocated by us Labor Bludgers.
“This is widely denied on PB.”
True that. The cognitive dissonance from the RGR wars is powerful.
Rocket
Yes it’s complex. The minor parties will decide it. The Hard right being in opposition means this is likely their peak vote. I am assuming that being in a separate party the moderate right that just lost government won’t work with the hard right.
Pedant 1011am
I am extremely interested in politics here and all around the world. But I watch Q&A incredibly rarely – maybe three times right through since its inception. I just don’t find that it is worth watching. I watch “Insiders” if I get the chance work permitting, and similarly like to hear Barrie Cassidy’s few minutes on Jon Faine’s radio show on a Thursday morning if I can.
But Q&A? A show that is going to promote Malcolm Roberts? Television in this country is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Maybe Q&A should get their important political guests to cook something in a bakeoff, or go on blind dates together, or just punch on in fist fights (“Battle of the 80s Has-Beens” anybody?)
Adhern would be a good get for Q&A.
Unfortunately, she is the exception. I doubt there are many leaders out there who would be able to talk confidently and competently on a range of topics without vetting the questions first.
Pedant @ #355 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:11 am
I can’t get enough of Terri Butler!
I don’t think anyone on PB denies that Gillard replacing Rudd was detrimental to the standing of the party. That’s different from disputing how it happened or from acknowledging the inevitability of what happened.
EGW
True or not that’s bad Labor politics at play. Nothing to do with the Greens.
To be honest it’s a theme Newscorp ran with to help Abbott win with his carbon tax lie.
The whole Labor is weak for wanting to consult experts and the public stuff.
They then ran Labor is weak because they worked with other parties. They particularly concentrated on the Greens because the Hard Right hates human rights and empathy champions
I find it interesting that some posters are concerned about Shorten and labor not on the attack over the economy and the lies sprouting from the government on labor policies.
So far labor has concentrated on health and cancer policy in particular. What do we get from the government ? Instead of promoting its own agenda it continues to highlight labor policy in its attacks.
Even today the spotlight is on labor cancer policy in particularand on labor health policyin general. Morrison and co are acting like the opposition going negative on a policy that will and does affect hundreds of thousands of adults and children.
I do not see too much wrong with the labor tactics.
Also, perhaps it is just my perception, it appears Shorten has a deliberated plan to let Morrison have first crack at a presser each day and then he and his team come in over the top and talk about labor policy and keep it in focus as he responds to the Morrison attack lines of the day which are all about, you quested it !, labor policy.
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In my area the Gs will get at best 6% of the vote and it will break 65/35 to Labor, if that.
G prefs will add maybe 2% to Labor’s 2PPV…..
The more that can be done to deter Labor-positive voters from defecting to the Gs the better..
My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that as usual the economy is starting to tank just as Labor takes control and is then blamed for any downturn.
“True that. The cognitive dissonance from the RGR wars is powerful.”
I think it is pretty clear that Labor lost after the RGR wars because they were so chaotic with #leadershit. Ate themselves. Was doing the policy and governance thing at the time which got lost in the sound color and movment of #leadershit that the media was sooooo focused on. That the Libs were simply not ready to actually govern was ignored. It was a massive fail for the ALP.
However, now, in the real world, whats evident is that the ALP have learned the lessons of the RGR wars. They go into this election united and with a highly developed and emminently arguable policy platform.
Equally evident is that the Coalition has NOT learned a bloody thing. 🙁
Rocket Rocket @ #387 Monday, April 15th, 2019 – 10:44 am
Promote Malcolm Roberts?
More like ‘expose Malcolm Roberts’. He is a figure of ridicule.
Also, perhaps it is just my perception, it appears Shorten has a deliberated plan to let Morrison have first crack at a presser each day and then he and his team come in over the top and talk about labor policy and keep it in focus as he responds to the Morrison attack lines of the day which are all about, you quested it !, labor policy.
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Sounds right
Doyley
Yes it does seem that the Labor team wait for Morrison to say something (like the Treasury 387 billion costings lie) and then respond with calm and calculated rebuttal.
Morrison has nothing to boast of (except his Machiavellian plot to oust Turnbull while making Dutton look like the villain – would have made a good Shakespeare play – history, tragedy or comedy – take your pick!). He has essentially been marking time since the coup last August, terrified to even let Parliament sit, so of course he has to talk about Labor.
What’s the deal with Ladbrokes odds dropping a Coalition Victory down to 3.50 when it was previously 5.00 about 2 or 3 days ago?