Two post-budget polls are in – Newspoll from The Australian, Ipsos for Nine Newspapers – and they offer contrasting pictures as to whether support for the government has gone up or down in the wake of last week’s budget.
Newspoll produces an encouraging result for the Coalition in showing Labor’s two-party lead at 52-48, rather than 54-46. Ordinarily I would point out that a two-point movement from Newspoll is a rare occurrence, which close observers of the polling industry suspect is down to Newspoll smoothing its numbers with some variety of rolling average, in which the results of the previous poll are combined with those of the latest. However, the last Newspoll was, very unusually, four weeks ago, the delay being down to the New South Wales election a fortnight ago and a desire to hold off until the budget last week. So it would not surprise me if things were different this time, and the result was drawn entirely from this week’s survey, which will have been conducted from Thursday to Sunday (UPDATE: as indeed it was, from a sample of 1799).
The report currently up on The Australian’s website is a bit sketchy, but it tells us the Coalition is up two on the primary vote to 38% and Labor is down two to 37%, with One Nation down one to 6%. Scott Morrison’s approval rating is up three to 46% and Bill Shorten’s is up one to 37%, but there is no word yet on disapproval ratings, preferred prime minister, the Greens primary vote and the sample size. The report also rates the budget has scored the highest since the last Howard government budget in 2007 on impact on personal circumstances and cost of living. Stay tuned for further detail.
UPDATE: The Greens primary vote is steady at 9%; Morrison is down two on disapproval to 43%; Shorten is steady on disapproval at 51%; Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 43-36 to 46-35.
The post-budget Ipsos poll for Nine Newspapers, which is the first since mid-February, records an actual deterioration for the Coalition on the last since last time, albeit that that was an anomalously strong result for the Coalition (the one that had The Australian proclaiming “Morrison’s Tampa moment” across its front page headline). The two-party headline in the poll is 53-47 in favour of Labor, compared with 51-49 last time, which I’m guessing applies to both respondent-allocated and two-party preferred preference measures since the reports don’t specify. Ipsos’s primary votes are as usual on the low side for the major parties and well on the high side for the Greens: the Coalition are down a point to 37%, Labor is steady on 34% and the Greens are steady on 13%. If it might be thought odd that such small primary vote movement should produce a two-point shift on two-party preferred, it would appear that rounding favoured the Coalition last time and Labor this time.
On the budget, the poll finds 38% expecting they would be better off and 24% saying worse off, which is around the same as last year. Forty-one per cent thought it fair and 29% unfair. Leadership ratings are, as usual, more favourable from Ipsos than other pollsters, but otherwise notable in recording increased uncommitted ratings across the board. Scott Morrison records 48% approval and 38% disapproval, both down one from last time; Bill Shorten is is down four on approval to 36% and one on disapproval to 51%; and Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister shifts from 48-38 to 46-35.
Reports on the poll, possibly paywalled, can be found at the Sydney Morning Herald and the Financial Review. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1200.
Also on federal election , there is no way the lib/nats 2pp will be 48%, if the lib/nats combined primary vote is 38%
The 2pp will be no higher then 46.5%
Great news about Melissa Parke.
The Lib is a terrible choice for the seat. The Indy and the Green will have next to no chance. Maybe Melissa can upset the Lib. In any case, her candidacy will certainly help Labor generally in WA.
mundo @ #349 Sunday, April 7th, 2019 – 11:21 pm
Oh I don’t waste my time spreading doom and gloom. I actively campaign and from that I get a pretty good feel of how the electorate is reacting. It is very positive for Labor. The Libs are not very happy.
No Green in Australia has ever lost a single member parliamentary seat they won in a general election (all losses have been at the general election following a by-election), much of any recent loss of Green primaries has been because of increased candidacies by micro parties that compete with the Greens (the Animal Justice Party, Sustainable Australia, Keep Sydney Open, etc), the swings against the Greens have tended not to be in seats the Greens hold and the ALP came third in Melbourne in 2016.
All in all, the Greens are almost certain to retain Melbourne.
Bucephalus says:
Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 10:12 pm
Another Minority ALP Government is on the cards.
It has often been said that a side needs a PV of 40 or better to govern in their own right. LNP aren’t going to get that and the ALP might miss it too.
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Labor will pick up over 19 libs/nats seats , the lib/nats are the only ones who need over 43% to retain office , the election is all over for lib/nats
“In any case, her candidacy will certainly help Labor generally in WA.”
I would not expect any ALP candidate to win Curtin. But Melissa is a good one to run. She has a profile in W.A. and her running shows that the ALP will run quality even in seats that are unlikely wins. Taking it seriously wont hurt the Senate vote.
If newspoll is reflected on election Day
Labor will be announced as the new government , anywhere from 7.30 pm Saturday night
At the 1998 Fed Election, the Coalition polled 39.51% PV and Labor 40.1% PV and the Coalition won. Why the One Nation effect, they polled 8.43% and countered the Democrat/Green Combined vote of just less than 8%.
The current polling if the Coal PV is 38, they get 1/9 of the greens, 4/6 of one nation and 5/10 of others which gives them 48. They need a PV of 40 to have any hope.
Michael
1998 is completely different scenario. The libs/Nat had a landslide win in 1996,and had a reasonable majority to lose seats
The current libs/Nat are in a minority
Scott they may do it with 41% but they would need to get most of the extra 3-4% from Labor to do it.
SMH
Ipsos poll: 53-47 result puts Morrison government on course for major election defeat.
OZ:Game on: PM’s budget bounce
The Coalition has moved to within striking distance of Labor with a surge in support following last week’s budget.
Take your pick.
I agree with Scott, Michael.
IMV tonight’s Newspoll may be slightly generous to the coalition. The changing electoral boundaries are a bit of a game changer in this election as in my understanding a number of coalition seats have either become marginal or are notionally Labor seats. This, combined with significant other factors (the loss of key Coalition members across several key seats, the Independent/Getup challenges in Delcon seats, the funding imbalance in favour of the Labor party, the parlous state of the Nats, and the superior Labor ground game) means that the coalition are likely finished. They would need a decisive turn around to save the election and 40 point PV won’t get them there on this occasion.
My understanding for the LibNats was that if they gained a PV nearing 42 percent nationally, they would control both houses. They are nowhere near that at present.
And there’s still a campaign to come, with potential further ALP tax cuts (speculating here), plus further foot shooting exercises by the Coalition. Odds on the ever reliable Melissa Price and any of the resident Adani nutters.
SilentMajority @ #350 Sunday, April 7th, 2019 – 11:24 pm
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If you were living in this electorate you could vote for MALCOLM again.- they’re rolling out old campaign gear.
“If newspoll is reflected on election Day Labor will be announced as the new government , anywhere from 7.30 pm”
Could it be the election Antony Green calls within 20 minutes based on the swings seen in eastern states? I hope so.
the reality is that polls do tighten, but probably not against an entrenched 3-year trend after 6 years of some of the most incompetent and dysfunctional government this country has ever seen. 52/48 is probably best case scenario for this mob. Victoria alone could – and probably will – cost them government. It is hard to see some Qld and WA seats not falling to labor, and it is hard to see the LNP winning more than 2-3 seats nationally.
Will Morrison melt down during the campaign as he faces the inevitable? I hope so – if people see his agro and nastiness, he’ll get even fewer votes.
Morrison can only campaign on tax.They havent got any other policy to take to the election.
What about coal? Border protection? The SURPLUS!
RM
They have failed on all 3. Also they are expecting Murdoch to get them across the line.
They had no policies last time. Just a mantra of Jobsongrowthe and still got over the line.
Unions! Hard working retirees! electric vehicles!
Every time I see a Govt advert in the next week, I’m going to think what a pack of p$&^#s the L/NP are. Now bad behavior is in everything they do. Nothing is off limits and they lecture everyone else like its their dog given right to do whatever they like.
This verges on theft of public money. If Labor win the next election, I would pull every one of these Ministers before a Senate enquiry and refer files to the AFP if any guidelines have been breached.
Waste, waste, waste but they do not give a stuff. That’s our money you low life.
There’s no way of knowing any potential impact on the results, but it’s interesting that both the Newspoll and Ipsos surveys began being taken directly after the government’s Budget speech but long before the opposition’s reply. I acknowledge they were still polling well after the reply, but I imagine a lot of people were polled before they’d heard both sides.
I see Attenborough’s new documentary is strong on climate science.
what’s the bet the murdoch media decide the rip into him?
otherwise – great timing for the election if people watch it.
The contrast between ths reporting of the two polls by Murdoch’s mob and Nine’s headlines is sharply different. Voters will go with what they want to believe.
The confusion in Qld and the Labor resurgence in WA are the unknowns. NSW appears to not know what it wants for a Federal government and VIC almost certain to re- inforce its pro Labor slant.
Morrison’s marauders will need some individual brilliance and an unnaturally large allocation of luck from the cupboard of magic and illusion to grasp a chance of winning this long overdue election.
So the News Poll reports an improved 52:48 result And improved approval ratings for Morrison And a high favourable impact score for the budget ( ‘highest since Howard’s 2007 budget’, which should be ominous), at the same time as Ipsos goes the other way??
Aren’t the alarm bells ringing?
It’s just too convenient.
We know that Murdoch is a player, not just an observer.
Why wouldn’t the News Poll statisticians carefully round the figures so that they are at the happier end of the MOE range?
Like all Murdoch employees they would know what their boss wants, and they’d retain their integrity.
Murdoch knows, the LNP politicians, and their campaign staff out in the trenches, needed a morale boost for the start of the campaign, and a 53:47 result would just not provide it.
Like the newspapers published by Murdoch during war and conflict, his papers will have front page rallying cries for the faithfull. And they’ll mock Labor and its supporters in any way they can.
But it’s just propaganda, designed to boost LNP morale, and sap the morale of Labor. Millions of words will rave about the LNP’s comeback.
It’s bullshit.
2% one way, 2% the other, if this keeps up polls will get a bad name.
I am still of the view that only 53% of Australians will admit to voting labor, the movement is sampling error and we have no idea as to what the outcome will be, except it will be a labor government.
So everything is still within the MOE centred on 53:47. It’s been that way for nigh on two years.
Done and dusted.
Laughing so hard at Shanahan’s take.
So, Ipsos goes down. Newspoll goes up, for the Coalition. All around the margin of error.
Plus my assessment of The Australian while Rupert Murdoch is in town:
I sense disrespect for ScoMo. 😀
I wonder how long they took to think up this ‘smart’ headline.
“Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor; Ipsos: 53-47 to Labor” ….
… and the laughable The Australian writes: “Game on: PM’s budget bounce”…. Ha, ha, ha, forgetting that the last Newspoll under Turnbull was: 51-49 to Labor….
We are just a handful of weeks from the election and the Coalition are in a worse condition than they were under the leader they turfed out not too long ago….
ScuMo: We are ready when you are…. 🙂
Good morning Dawn Patrollers. So with those two poll results Essential will be pf great interest.
David Crowe says the electoral cycle is at a point when a national poll can only offer the broadest hint of an election outcome.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ipsos-poll-offers-only-a-rough-guide-to-the-liberal-party-s-uncertain-fate-20190407-p51boc.html
Peter Hartcher has concluded that only politicians think Australians will change their opinion of a government in return for money.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/only-politicians-think-australians-will-change-their-opinion-of-a-government-in-return-for-money-20190407-p51bod.html
Tony Wright reckons that when voters think they’re being taken for a ride, they’re dangerous.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/when-voters-think-they-re-being-taken-for-a-ride-they-re-dangerous-20190407-p51boh.html
Michael Koziol explains how in the latest Ipsos poll voters most trust Labor ho handle climate change.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ipsos-poll-voters-back-labor-to-deal-with-climate-change-20190407-p51boe.html
Here’s Michelle Grattan’s take on the latest Newspoll.
https://theconversation.com/coalition-narrows-gap-to-trail-48-52-in-post-budget-newspoll-115046
Ross Gittins pretty well calls BS on Frydenberg’s budget
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/frydenberg-s-budget-if-it-looks-too-good-to-be-true-20190406-p51bjf.html
And Michael West writes that it seems nobody has picked up the “fake cash splash” angle on Tuesday’s Budget, that is, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg’s trick of including last year’s tax relief to fatten this year’s numbers.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/shorten-to-frydenberg-ill-see-you-raise-you-and-raise-the-tax-free-threshold/
Greg Jericho explains how the desire to help the wealthiest is entrenched in the government’s strategy. He doesn’t hold back!
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/apr/07/the-desire-to-help-the-wealthiest-is-entrenched-in-the-governments-strategy
Amy Remeikis says Scott Morrison’s task to win the Coalition a third term still appears out of sight, despite the prime minister recording his best ever Newspoll. Two polls out on Sunday night suggest voters’ dislike of the opposition leader Bill Shorten won’t stop Labor winning a majority government in the May election.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/07/labor-holds-significant-lead-over-morrison-government-in-latest-poll
Jennifer Hewett tells us that Bill Shorten’s line that everything is going up except people’s wages resonates with voters.
https://www.outline.com/njkTLT
Tony Walker writes that Morrison finds himself astride a particularly toxic moment in Australian history, and one whose entrails will be exposed in an election campaign. It all rests on trust, he says.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/trust-deficit-will-hang-heavily-over-the-election-campaign-20190405-p51bbz.html
“What will the Turnbull-Morrison government be remembered for?”, asks politics academic Rob Mainwaring.
https://theconversation.com/what-will-the-turnbull-morrison-government-be-remembered-for-114618
Pauline Hanson and Seven’s Sunrise are not seeing eye to eye at the moment.
https://www.outline.com/qtchAN
A top IMF official has said Australia’s housing market contraction is worse than first thought and the RBA was likely to cut interest rates in the next few months. He opines that whichever party wins the next election it will have its work cut out for it sustaining Australia’s near three-decade run of continuous economic growth.
https://www.outline.com/SfKwNW
Law lecturer Tamsin Paige writes that by according the alleged perpetrators of terrorism a fair trial we reaffirm our humanity when standing face to face with the inhumanity of those perpetrators.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/even-the-alleged-perpetrators-of-terrorism-deserve-a-fair-trial-20190406-p51bin.html
Kate Aubusson reports that more than 4000 children and young people were hospitalised for self-harm in NSW over 12 months, it has been revealed, as school counsellors and psychologists grow increasingly concerned a “contagion effect” is driving an alarming trend.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/self-harm-contagion-effect-among-children-and-teens-20190405-p51bcy.html
Mark Scott has written a book in which he reflects on how we rushed to embrace technology without understanding its cost.
https://www.smh.com.au/education/skeptical-critical-wise-preparing-students-for-the-digital-world-20190406-p51bkq.html
An investigation by The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and Four Corners reveals that the Chinese operation was seeking details about former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull’s 2016 classified inquiry into Beijing’s campaign to influence Australian politics.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/china-agents-interfered-with-turnbull-s-classified-inquiry-20190404-p51asi.html
John McDuling explains why, with the US giants on the nose, Australia’s tech sector keeps getting rolled in Canberra.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/here-s-why-australia-s-tech-sector-keeps-getting-rolled-in-canberra-20190405-p51b5z.html
“Can we ever have unity around immigration?”, asks The Independent Australia.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/can-we-ever-have-unity-around-immigration,12552
According to Clancy Yeates insurance companies have been given a rebuke by the body, the General Insurance Code Governance Committee, that supervises the industry’s code of conduct, after a review found “questionable’ and “inconsistent” reporting of breaches.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/insurers-told-to-step-up-and-take-code-of-practice-seriously-20190405-p51b8i.html
Sharman Stone, Australia’s Global Ambassador for Women and Girls, says that it is important for each voter in the coming election to have a view on what would their best or better Australia look like. She tells what her idea of it is.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dream-of-the-nation-you-want-then-take-it-into-the-polling-booth-20190407-p51bpy.html
Theresa May is facing intense cabinet pressure to avoid the prospect of a long Brexit delay, amid increasing expectations that last ditch cross-party talks on a compromise departure plan will not produce anything concrete.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/07/theresa-may-brexit-cabinet-in-the-dark-over-plans-critical-eu-summit
Wendy Touhy has had enough of the scourge of headphones in the home.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/headphones-in-the-home-are-the-devil-s-work-20190405-p51b5f.html
Hydrogen is increasingly being seen as an alternative to LNG and other fossil fuels and Australia has a lot to gain from a new export industry, with companies such as Woodside Energy and Siemens already investing.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/08/the-perfect-storm-woodside-energy-and-siemens-invest-in-australias-hydrogen-economy
Nicole Hemmer explains how the Democrats are losing the battle to rein in the imperial presidency of Trump.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/losing-the-battle-to-rein-in-the-imperial-presidency-20190407-p51bpj.html
Australian stories are at risk of disappearing as local television drama is swamped by reality TV and Netflix, the former ABC managing director Mark Scott has warned.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/08/abc-more-important-than-ever-in-era-of-netflix-and-reality-tv-mark-scott-says
AAP reports that the bombshell leak of US President Donald Trump’s contentious 2017 phone call with then Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull could lead to criminal charges.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/leaked-turnbull-trump-phone-call-could-lead-to-criminal-charges-20190408-p51bty.html
Meanwhile NSW is facing its worst measles outbreak in years. Dumbass anti-vaxxers and pathetic media!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/time-bomb-two-new-cases-as-nsw-faces-worst-measles-outbreak-in-years-20190407-p51bqy.html
In more health news Melissa Cunningham reports that a new flu test which is able to detect the most common strains of influenza within two hours could save lives and help stop the spread of the viral infection, Australian researchers say. Researchers have called for the test to be rolled out nationally after a successful trial in four emergency departments in New South Wales.
https://www.theage.com.au/healthcare/rapid-flu-test-could-save-lives-and-slash-needless-hospital-admissions-study-finds-20190407-p51bn6.html
There is a newly-evolved medically resistant and deadly fungal infection doing around.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/candida-auris-a-mysterious-infection-spanning-the-globe-in-a-climate-of-secrecy-20190407-p51bse.html
In a detailed article Kate McClymont tells us all about today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week”.
https://www.smh.com.au/money/tax/the-tax-evader-the-auction-and-the-multimillion-dollar-mansion-20190406-p51bjp.html
Cartoon Corner
David Rowe takes us behind stage.
A ripper from Pat Campbell.
From Matt Golding.
Sean Leahy with a reminder on Adani.
Johannes Leak goes the “Full Australian” here!
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b2b67fd6514b33dbb82d503125324361?width=1024
From the US
steve davis: “They had no policies last time. Just a mantra of Jobsongrowthe and still got over the line.”…
Last time they were saved exclusively by Queensland (and Turnbull’s money)… This time around Queensland is ready to kick them out and nobody else is taking the responsibility to save them, no, not even NSW (in spite of the Liberals’ deluded hopes after the state election there).
It’s over and the only question remaining is the size of the debacle.
If my assumption is correct ( we have hit a limit at 53% of the population willing to admit to voting labor) can we get results of 54 and 51%.
Lets make a very courageous assumption,it is a random sample from a large population.
I think the argument runs something like this.
The standard error = sqrt( p(1-p)/n)
n = sample size, seems to be around 1200.
p = 0.53
standard error = 0.014
So one standard error gives 0.544 on the plus side.
and
0.516 on the minus side.
Use floored rounding ( hay why not, this is statistics, the aim is to lie) = 0.51
I think my argument holds statistical water.
In other words, all results could easily represent a sampling result from a populations with an actual result of 53%.
Or to put it another way, the articles in the Australian and the Sydney Morning Herald are both a crock of shit. They should read “Our sampling error gave a high/Low result this week”
Good Morning
FWIW I agree the LNP are going to lose. Thats even if this polling is just of marginals and has not been taken in seats like Wentworth or the Nationals in NSW.
Both polls are saying the same things despite the spin from the desperate Murdoch empire.
They all reflect past polss as William notes.
When reporting on these polls with ABC Newsradio made the point that the Newspoll at least is within the margin of error.
We know what happened in 2007 that as William notes is when the LNP got as good budget figures as they got today.
So do listen to Douglas Adams
Don’t Panic!
🙂
So far, both polls within MOE. Ipsos regularly irregular. Newspoll as usual with a hint of tuna.
Whens Essential?
The Porkalition does it for me. 🙂
Another way to view the polls
@johndory 49 tweets
LNP mob lose 51st (FIFTY-FIRST) straight #Newspoll – by 4 points:
– ALP 52
– LNP 48
NOTE: polling for today’s #IPSOS AND #Newspoll began after the Budget BUT BEFORE @billshortenmp’s Budget Reply!!!
#auspol #Insiders #QandA
RETWEET TO DUMP THE LNP FOR DECENT GOVT FOR ALL!!! https://twitter.com/johndory49/status/1114853364603293697/photo/1
Edit: NB Note The Australian Masthead is copyright
‘Natural therapies cut from private health insurance cover could be reinstated as early as next year after the Morrison government bowed to growing pressure to review its new rebate ban.’
‘… Health Minister Greg Hunt has promised a $2 million review of the changes.’
‘..Under legislation that passed Parliament last year and came into effect on April 1, rebates are no longer available on a range of popular alternative therapies including yoga, pilates, naturopathy and reflexology.
The move has drawn ire from a range of bodies including the National Institute of Complementary Medicine and the Australian Naturopathic Practitioners Association, however the changes were welcomed by other groups including Friends of Science in Medicine.’
Yeah, well, know who I’d be listening to here…
‘Independent MP Kerryn Phelps, a former head of the Australian Medical Association, has been a vocal opponent of the reforms.
She wrote to Health Minister Greg Hunt seeking an overturn on the rebate ban for yoga, naturopathy, tai chi and western herbal medicine.’
Seriously!!! These are lifestyle choices, not medicine. My doctor has yet to tell me to go home and meditate! It might help me feel good, but well being isn’t the same as health.
‘Mr Hunt has conceded that the government should consider new evidence in support of certain natural therapies that has emerged in the five years since the last review.’
Treat it the same as the PBS. Put it in front of the same decision makers. They’re used to evaluating evidence for health benefits.
‘Mr Hunt said the the advisory panel would include experts in medicine, natural therapies and private health insurance, as well as consumer representatives.’
It should just be experts in medicine. Full stop.
‘However Dr Phelps said the move could actually increase premiums if young people who had been attracted to natural therapies drop out of private health insurance and stop subsidising older patients.’
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6005955/backlash-to-governments-natural-therapies-rebate-ban-spurs-new-review/?cs=14225
For any that missed it
@climatecouncil tweets
The difference between the two major parties on addressing climate change is now as stark as night and day. Bill Shorten has a fire truck, while Scott Morrison is holding a watering can,
https://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/voters-prefer-labor-to-deal-with-climate-change-20190407-p51bnu #auspol
C@tmomma @ #24117 Monday, April 8th, 2019 – 7:17 am
So their owners, The Murdorcs (senior & junior), porculate?
Kerryn Phelps practices voodoo medicine as well as traditional medicine, it should be noted.
However, it should also be noted that Greg Hunt is looking at a significant voting bloc.
@samanthamaiden tweets
NEW Josh Frydenberg offers personal guarantee $1080 for tax refunds will be delivered regardless of election date
Plan B include instructing the Australian Tax Office to plan for the tax cuts now and deliver them “administratively” if required https://thenewdaily.com.au/federal-budget-2015/2019/04/07/treasurer-josh-frydenberg-guarantees-july-tax-cuts/
doyley says:
Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 9:07 pm
If Newspoll is 52/48 so be it.
The election was never going to be a walk in the park.
Long way to go yet.
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I’m with Doyley.
Just take it as a reminder that nothing is in the bag and we’ve got to keep working at it.
Thanks BK for the Dawn Patrol.
Fascinating articles from The Australian which I shall treat myself by not bothering to read.
I lied – I had a peek at Mr. C. Kenny’s brilliantly written – very, very, very fair item.
Sorry I lied again, wooden spoon for me. Bad KayJay. I am trying to get a handle on Murdochracy language in which very fair translates to last week’s cow pats. 🐂 – that’s a bull.
😇☕
A note. Dr. Phelps is a past recipient of the Bent Spoon award from The Australian Skeptics in relation to Alternative Remedies.
ScoMo now says Shorten is declaring a war on the weekend
Thanks BK. Lots to get through today.