Departure lounge

The retirement of another senior Liberal in a loseable seat, and a poll suggesting Labor could pull off a boilover in Higgins.

The West Australian today reports that Human Services Minister Michael Keenan will be joining the exodus at the election, creating a vacancy in his northern suburbs Perth seat of Stirling. The seat was long highly marginal, but Keenan has held it on mostly comfortable margins since he gained the seat from Labor in 2004.

There is also a uComms/ReachTEL poll in The Australian from the scene of the week’s other big retirement announcements, the Melbourne seat of Higgins. Conducted on Thursday from a sample of 860 for interests who wish to bring about the return of Peter Costello, the poll finds Labor with a two-party lead of 52-48. This compares with a 10.7% margin for retiring Liberal member Kelly O’Dwyer in Liberals-versus-Labor terms, although it’s perfectly in line with how the electorate voted at the election. It was in fact the Greens who finished second in 2016, but the poll suggests that is unlikely to be repeated this time: after exclusion of the 8.4% undecided, the primary votes are Liberal 40.3%, Labor 27.1% and Greens 19.3%.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Someone please do something about Nath and his Bill Shorten obsession.

    I am merely a daily reader/lurker (my preference) but I am utterly fucking sick of the nath’s Bill Shorten rubbish and I know several other readers/lurkers who feel the same and are close to stopping visiting the site for the, otherwise, more useful debates and info. We just get sick of scrolling past it all day every day. It’s even more of a pain in the arse doing it on an iPhone screen.

    It’s your site William but, seriously, Nath brings nothing useful to it. If it was my site I’d be running it like a benevolent dictatorship and nuking him. I don’t think anyone would argue with you if you did.

  2. Picking Kimberley Kitching was an inspired move by Shorten. Her first initiative:

    that Senator Kimberley Kitching is attempting to launch a cross-party “Defence of Democratic Institutions” Parliamentary Friendship Group to champion “Judeo-Christian, liberal-democratic values.

    I know Pauline Hanson likes this kind of stuff and so does Eric Abetz, right up his alley.

  3. nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:03 pm
    Actually, there is some use out of having regional ALP members and candidates, it makes money for the party due to federal funding, and of course it aids in Senate contests. Those are the only reasons they even bother with them.
    ———————————————
    The Labor Party was born in the Bush – it’s in our DNA. That’s why the ALP has far more regional state seats in QLD than the Tories.

    Regional Queensland sustains the Labor Party.

  4. Kimberly Kitching is a pedestrian thinker who got a gig under the mates’ act.

    A very minor role on Senate Estimates asking unthreatening questions is as far as she will go.

  5. Recalling how a quality candidate like Tanya Plibersek got pre-selection for Sydney back in the day, you see there ‘was no time to branch stack’. Good for her.

    the ALP preselectors in the safe federal electorate of Sydney were due to choose their candidate to replace sitting member Peter Baldwin. Baldwin, who’d been a minister in the Keating government, had thrown NSW Labor into a tailspin a few months earlier by announcing he would not re-contest the seat.

    “Had it all, Sydney did,” recalls a Labor Party official who was in the thick of it. The lack of notice, the absence of a succession plan, the strict continuity rules of party membership governing eligibility to vote all combined to ensure this rare rank-and-file preselection contest was wide open. “There was no time to branch stack,” says one of the numbers men. In the end there were nine candidates, eight women and a man in a wheelchair who, in the words of one of the operatives, “made merry of the fact that the ALP had affirmative action for women but not for disabled people”.
    A safe federal seat like Sydney is a valuable political prize, well worth fighting for.

    https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/tanya-plibersek-cool-calm-elected-20120921-26bh9.html

  6. bug1

    Pretty bloody impressive.
    ..
    ..
    After migrating from Sri Lanka at age one, his family lived in flats and units in a working class area in Melbourne’s south-east. After passing the entry exam to Melbourne High, Kadira decided he preferred to return to his local public school due to a strong connection to the community he grew up in

    His expertise also stems from having specialised on foreign policy as a visiting scholar at Oxford University and visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution. Kadira has a PhD in International Relations which was co-supervised by former Foreign Minister, Gareth Evans.

  7. Upnorth
    says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:48 pm
    nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:03 pm
    Actually, there is some use out of having regional ALP members and candidates, it makes money for the party due to federal funding, and of course it aids in Senate contests. Those are the only reasons they even bother with them.
    ———————————————
    The Labor Party was born in the Bush – it’s in our DNA. That’s why the ALP has far more regional state seats in QLD than the Tories.
    Regional Queensland sustains the Labor Party.
    ______________________________________
    And yet when was the last time the ALP held a Federal regional seat in QLD? Rob Hulls was it, 1990-1993?

  8. nath
    And yet when was the last time the ALP held a Federal regional seat in QLD? Rob Hulls was it, 1990-1993?

    Labor has held, and continues to hold, seats in regional Qld since then, such as Capricornia, Dawson, Leichhardt, Longman, Herbert etc.


  9. nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    The fact is that every safe and fairly safe ALP seat is subject to branch stacks to determine pre-selection and even some marginal seats too.
    ….

    Based on personal experience; the fact is; you don’t have a clue.

    But that aside; the Labor process is actually selecting some talent; the same cannot be said for the Liberals.

    There has been two things that have struck me; one is the talent Labor attract, and two, what I call the gap. There seems to be a lot of members in the 60+ and a lot of members in their 20s. And I mean a lot, I suspect the 60+ are now well outnumbered. There seems to be a gap of people in their 30s or 40s.

    I wonder if the 30s and 40s had nothing to fight for. The causes are pretty obvious today; it was SSM and now it is climate change.

    What have the Liberals got; a lump of coal and a dry river.

  10. nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:56 pm
    Upnorth
    says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:48 pm
    nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:03 pm
    Actually, there is some use out of having regional ALP members and candidates, it makes money for the party due to federal funding, and of course it aids in Senate contests. Those are the only reasons they even bother with them.
    ———————————————
    The Labor Party was born in the Bush – it’s in our DNA. That’s why the ALP has far more regional state seats in QLD than the Tories.
    Regional Queensland sustains the Labor Party.
    ______________________________________
    And yet when was the last time the ALP held a Federal regional seat in QLD? Rob Hulls was it, 1990-1993?
    ———————————————
    Nath must think Regional QLD ends at Noosa and his lack of knowledge makes him look like a fool.

    Herbert, Dawson, Flynn, Leichhardt, Hinkler, Capricornia have be n held by Labor since Hulls held Kennedy.

  11. So if $550,000 is 15% of Mundine’s show’s budget on Sky, then total production cost is $3.7 million.

    Why is the federal govt paying for this?

    WTF?

  12. “I wonder if the 30s and 40s had nothing to fight for. The causes are pretty obvious today; it was SSM and now it is climate change.”

    Actually, I think that the 30s and 40s would be mostly focused on bread and butter issues – jobs, bills, mortgages, kids.

  13. Upnorth says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    nath says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:56 pm
    Upnorth
    says:
    Nath must think Regional QLD ends at Noosa and his lack of knowledge makes him look like a fool.

    Herbert, Dawson, Flynn, Leichhardt, Hinkler, Capricornia have be n held by Labor since Hulls held Kennedy.
    ____________________________________
    They’ve done a bit better than I thought, but apart from Capricornia they have only held those seats occasionally. Queensland is a black hole for the ALP and has been for 50 years. I don’t mind being wrong about things in Queensland, that humid, fetid joint should be excised from the Commonwealth.


  14. Steve777 says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    “I wonder if the 30s and 40s had nothing to fight for. The causes are pretty obvious today; it was SSM and now it is climate change.”

    Actually, I think that the 30s and 40s would be mostly focused on bread and butter issues – jobs, bills, mortgages, kids.

    Yes there is that; a distant memory. But I have kids in that age group; not interested.


  15. nath says:

    They’ve done a bit better than I thought

    Your problem is; basically; you don’t have a clue. You need to get better notes from your minder.

  16. frednk

    “I wonder if the 30s and 40s had nothing to fight for.

    You sound a bit out of touch saying something like that.

    Steve777 understands.

  17. frednk says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    nath says:

    They’ve done a bit better than I thought

    Your problem is; basically; you don’t have a clue. You need to get better notes from your minder.
    ______________________________
    As a former member of the Young Liberals, which ALP Prime Ministers did you campaign against? Was Gough too red for you and you were a Fraser supporter? Was Hawke a union heavy and you backed Howard? Having a go at me is a poor way to shore up your ALP credentials.

  18. https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/labor-confident-of-landing-five-liberal-seats-at-election-20190127-p50tyo.html

    Labor is confident it can steal up to five Victorian seats from the Liberals in the upcoming federal election, but the leafy seat of Higgins – to be vacated by government minister Kelly O’Dwyer – is not among its priority targets.

    Nonetheless, the union movement is arguing both Higgins and Flinders, held by Health Minister Greg Hunt, should be firmly in Labor’s sights.

    Victoria could be a Liberal wipe-out at the federal election, with a senior Labor campaign source confirming the party’s target list includes the the electorates of Chisholm, Deakin, Dunkley, Latrobe and Corangamite.
    :::
    The Labor source said Higgins would receive base-level funding covering how-to-vote cards and signs, which is the minimum allocated to candidates across Victoria.

    “There’s still a strong level of scepticism about Higgins – it would be a bonus if we were to go close,” the Labor campaign source said.
    :::
    Labor considers Higgins more likely to fall to the Greens candidate Jason Ball, who received 25 per cent of the primary vote in 2016.
    :::
    Unions expect to spend up to $100,000 in the seat of Higgins alone.
    :::
    Meanwhile, progressive lobby group GetUp has warned it will target conservatives in Victoria with the long-serving Kevin Andrews in his Menzies electorate nominated by group members as their most loathed Victorian MP.

  19. I think the ALP will go close to getting Flinders on Green prefs. Just a feeling I have. MT was pretty popular down at the Portsea and Sorrento end of the electorate. That part of the electorate is like a mini Wentworth in some respects.

  20. I have kids in that age group; not interested.

    I liked Chris Bowen turn of phrase in a recent AFR Interview –

    “I learnt very quickly there are two big levers that change people’s lives – politics and economics.

    If you combined the two then you’re able to make a big difference to people’s lives.”

    He describes being treasurer as “his dream job”, the one he’s wanted “pretty much” since university.

    In some ways, Bowen says he has spent 30 years preparing to be treasurer. He certainly wants to be in the job for much longer than the three months he held the role in the returned Rudd government in mid-2013, after the dumping of prime minister Julia Gillard.

    Bowen spent six years in the Rudd and Gillard ministries, including various responsibilities as assistant treasurer, minister for financial services, superannuation, competition and consumer affairs, and trying to stop the boats as immigration minister when, as a Rudd supporter, was given the thankless job by Gillard.

    “I and my colleagues have the learnings – the good and the bad – from the Rudd-Gillard years on how a Cabinet can best operate,” Bowen says.

    https://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/this-is-how-chris-bowen-plans-to-emulate-hero-keating-as-a-reformist-treasurer-20190124-h1aglr

  21. I see that Poll Bludger After Dark is in full swing, but where’s Clem? It’s like Rowan Dean taking the night off from SkyNoos.

  22. SkyFoxNews After Dark giving some advice to Scotty….

    .@chriskkenny: ‘Scott Morrison could put Tony Abbott back into cabinet. We all know Tony Abbott’s long and devoted attention to Indigenous Affairs … Why not put him into cabinet, he could have Nigel Scallion’s portfolio.’

    MORE: bit.ly/2HkWSO1 #kennyonsunday

  23. sprocket_ @ #1424 Sunday, January 27th, 2019 – 9:39 pm

    SkyFoxNews After Dark giving some advice to Scotty….

    .@chriskkenny: ‘Scott Morrison could put Tony Abbott back into cabinet. We all know Tony Abbott’s long and devoted attention to Indigenous Affairs … Why not put him into cabinet, he could have Nigel Scallion’s portfolio.’

    MORE: bit.ly/2HkWSO1 #kennyonsunday

    The more the better on the bridge of RMS Liberal Titanic.

  24. briefly says:
    Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    Very plainly, the voters of Warringah want to dump Abbott. 300 volunteers to the first campaign event…impressive…

    ***************

    We’ll see how they go with the hard yards of campaigning.

  25. sprocket_ @ #1425 Sunday, January 27th, 2019 – 6:39 pm

    SkyFoxNews After Dark giving some advice to Scotty….

    .@chriskkenny: ‘Scott Morrison could put Tony Abbott back into cabinet. We all know Tony Abbott’s long and devoted attention to Indigenous Affairs … Why not put him into cabinet, he could have Nigel Scallion’s portfolio.’

    MORE: bit.ly/2HkWSO1 #kennyonsunday

    Translation: Abbott could do with the profile boost of a cabinet position now that he has a genuine challenger in his electorate.

  26. @chriskkenny: ‘Scott Morrison could put Tony Abbott back into cabinet. We all know Tony Abbott’s long and devoted attention to Indigenous Affairs … Why not put him into cabinet, he could have Nigel Scallion’s portfolio.’

    Hmm but what to call Tones’ position ? Chief Protector of Aborigines or should Scrott go for Commissioner for Native Affairs ?


  27. nath says:

    As a former member of the Young Liberals, which ALP Prime Ministers did you campaign against? Was Gough too red for you and you were a Fraser supporter? Was Hawke a union heavy and you backed Howard?

    Nath I have no problem with who I am.

    It was children overboard that was one step too far for me; and they have just got worse.

    It was Paul Keating that convinced me that Labor were actually the better economic managers. He basically fixed Howard’s mess.

    Up until then I believed we needed Labor for social change and the Liberals for economic management. If the Liberals can’t even run the joint ( absolute proof this time) of what value are they.

    I was a Fraser supporter. Fraser resigned from the Liberal party for good reasons.

    Before that it really was a tribal thing; brought up in a Liberal family.

    Having said that, 40 years ago the young liberals was a different beast. It was a great social club, not a bunch of drunken loutes.

    I think it was Peacock I campaigned for.

  28. The Noisy Minors of Labor, appearing so thin skinned and glass jawwed, they need to spend yet another whole day pumping their BS all over the place. After a few fun facts and questions are put to them. Rather than address obvious issues. Pathetic pieces of shit think that ganging up on random posters online is the peak of Labor qualities. Anything to try and keep themselves and their bedfellows the LNP in bed together as the true rulers of the Australian people. In their own minds.

  29. AE

    We all have our favourites, don’t we?

    As ‘I can’t stop thinking of you’.

    Sting – lyrics

    I can’t stop thinking about you
    I can’t stop wanting you this way
    I can’t face dreaming without you
    That’s why I’m searching night and day…

  30. I have a friend who works professionally with indigenous people in the Kimberleys.

    She tells me the aborigines in her neck of the woods hate Tony Abbott with a passion.

    For all the good it would do, appointing Abbott as minister for a month or so, then losing office… yeah, nah.

  31. frednk

    According to Cat those who change ships are the worst zealots or wtte.

    Apparentlybin her mind that applies to me because I jumped ship from Labor to the Greens.

    No doubt, you jumping ship from Libs to Lab is a-okay.

  32. frednk
    says:
    Nath I have no problem with who I am.
    _______________________________
    And yet here I am, someone who has never sent a vote to the conservative side, and whose family have voted for the ALP since 1900 berated by you for not being sufficiently pro-ALP. Funny stuff hey?

  33. Pegasus
    I am tolerated.
    I Joined because shorten was trying to expend the membership base. I think that is a good thing.
    I have a lot of respect for Cat she got it right first time.

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