Midweek mélange

New fronts open in the Liberal Party’s internal warfare as it scrambles to prepare for an election looking increasingly to be in May.

As we wait for the 2019 polling machine to get cranking, a review of recent happenings:

• Indigenous leader Warren Mundine is to be installed as the new Liberal candidate for the marginal seat of Gilmore in southern New South Wales, supplanting the existing candidate, Grant Schultz, by decree of the party’s state executive acting at the behest of the Prime Minister. Schultz promptly quit the Liberal Party when the news broke yesterday and announced he would run as an independent. Schultz’s dumping was also blasted by Shelley Hancock, member for the corresponding state seat of South Coast, who spoke of “one of the darkest days of the Liberal Party”. A local real estate agent and son of the late Alby Schultz, former member for Hume, Schultz was preparing a challenge to the preselection of incumbent Ann Sudmalis last year, and was the only remaining nominee after she announced her retirement in September. Mundine was national president of the ALP in 2006 and 2007, but quit the party in 2012 and moved ever further into the conservative orbit thereafter. It is expected the seat will be contested for the Nationals by Katrina Hodgkinson, former state member for Burrinjuck and Cootamundra.

• Following Kelly O’Dwyer’s retirement announcement on the weekend, it appears accepted within the Liberal Party that it needs to pick a woman to succeed her. Katie Allen, a paediatrician and medical researcher who ran unsuccessfully in Prahran at the November state election, has confirmed she will nominate. Michael Koziol of The Age reports other names being discussed include Caroline Elliott, state party vice-president and daughter of businessman John Elliott, and Margaret Fitzherbert, who lost her upper house seat for Southern Metropolitan region at the state election. Senator Jane Hume has reportedly encouraged to put her name forward, but announced yesterday she would not do so.

• Anne Webster, founder of young mother support organisation Zoe Support, was chosen as the Nationals candidate for Mallee at a local preselection vote on Saturday. Webster will succeed one-term member Andrew Broad, who announced his impending retirement last month after he became embroiled in the “sugar baby” affair. Rachel Baxendale of The Australian reports Webster won in the second round of voting over Birchip accountant and farmer Bernadette Hogan and Mildura police domestic violence taskforce head Paul Matheson, with three other candidates excluded in the first round.

• Nationals Senator Bridget McKenzie has announced she will not contest the lower house seat of Indi, contrary to expectations she would do so if independent incumbent Cathy McGowan announced her retirement, which she did last weekend.

• Two notable independents have emerged to challenge Tony Abbott in Warringah: Alice Thompson, a KPMG manager who worked in the Prime Minister’s Office under Malcolm Turnbull, and Susan Moylan-Coombs, founder and director of indigenous advocacy organisation the Gaimaragal Group.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. A shame, they need more people like this guy on TV.
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    The US media has lost one of its sanest voices on military matters – so let’s hope William Arkin’s absence is brief

    ……This ex-US marine intelligence author of ground-breaking work on secret CIA “black sites” and equally secret US weapons dumps (nuclear and non-nuclear) has a respectful audience at both Harvard and Maxwell US Air Force Base. And when he quits, I take notice………….here’s what Arkin told his colleagues about the American military when he left NBC last week. “There is not a soul in Washington,” he wrote to them, “who can say that they have won or stopped any conflict. And though there might be the beloved perfumed princes in the form of the [David] Petraeuses and Wes Clarks, or the so-called warrior monks like James Mattis and HR McMaster, we’ve had more than a generation of national security leaders who have sadly and fraudulently done little of consequence.

    “And yet we embrace them… We do so ignoring the empirical truth of what they have wrought: there is not one country in the Middle East that is safer today than it was 18 years ago.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/william-arkin-nbc-donald-trump-military-war-pundits-israel-media-a8719956.html

  2. steve davis:

    [‘I must say the last 90 minutes has shown PBers at their best. Good comments and good debate.’]

    I can’t wait for the sun to set. Then it will pistols at ten paces. Nah, I prefer the debate to be civilised – well, not too civilised.

  3. “This prevents double taxation – that is, the taxation of profits when earned by a corporate tax entity, and again when a recipient receives a distribution.”

    That really doesnt fly. A company, and its investors are different entities. If the investors were liable, beyond the amount they had invested for a companies debts if it folds…..maybe. But i dont see the franking credits thing as “double taxation”. Its a rort, get rid of it and move on.

    Will be much bitching about tax in the next few weeks. 🙁 Saw the thing on 7:30 last night about stamp duty. Its something that people can quite legitimatley make arguments around, but my take is that if you want to lobby for the removal of stamp duty you need to propose where the revenue to make up for that is coming from and what is the social benefit of others paying the tax you dont want too.

    I’m sure the Libs would deal with that by simply cutting welfare, hospitals……………..

    But they are economically illiterate arseholes after all.

  4. WWP

    I agree with most of what you say, other than the slagging of us from the Premier State.

    If you look back to PJKs reforms, they must be seen as a package – and any individual one can be pulled apart, dismembered, or in the case of successive Liberal governments, denuded by a dozen cuts and a dozen handouts to wealthy backers and aspirational swinging voters.

    So on PJK principles, some were:

    Taxation of earnings from capital and labour should be equal.
    A good retirement income is the right of all workers.
    Australia has to freely participate in the world economy, and prioritise the region we are in.
    The guarantee of quality healthcare for all, and support for those requiring welfare support.

    The reason the Taxation Act and regulations, rulings etc is thousands of page is in part due to the smartie financial planners who work full time on finding holes, urging changes, getting trailing fees from their clients etc. hence the $5.7b leak from the revenue through the cash back dividend imputation rort, one of JWH’s sleeping timebombs he set up by bastardising a PJK policy.

    We could do a lot worse than systematically reviewing and unwinding all the JWH and Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison polices.

  7. I would argue for the removal of stamp duty because it makes it harder for people to move when the house no longer suits them.

    For the replacement revenue I propose is a land tax instead.

  8. “We could do a lot worse than systematically reviewing and unwinding all the JWH and Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison polices.”

    Absolutley. But, thats one of those major reform jobs that will take multiple terms of sane governance.

    While post the 2019 election (if the ALP win) i reckon we will start to get that, things wont really settle until the Lib / Nats have finished tearing themselves apart in opposition. They will try the whole Abbott No, No,No, hysterical lying toe-rag LOTO thing again, at least for a while, as thats really the last political tactic they seem to have got any value out of. That will create an environment where real reform, for the good of the electorate not donors, is more difficult to do and still get re-elected.

  9. MS
    I think there will always be at times an uncivilised edge to PB. Posters are passionate in what they believe and its no bad thing.It shows that they care.

  10. Andrew_Earlwood
    Thank you for that interesting information on Capt. James Cook. Ever since I saw a UK doco on him a couple of years ago, I have become intrigued by him. He was one smart cookie.

    So what are the odds he did survey Port Jackson but it was never made public? I wish his widow had not burned all his correspondence when she was old.

  11. “For the replacement revenue I propose is a land tax instead.”

    I propose taxing Gina and her mates until her ears bleed. At that point you know you are starting to approach a reasonable tax take. And it would piss her off which is always worth doing.

  14. imacca @ #1660 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 9:38 am

    “For the replacement revenue I propose is a land tax instead.”

    I propose taxing Gina and her mates until her ears bleed. At that point you know you are starting to approach a reasonable tax take. And it would piss her off which is always worth doing.

    And she’d have less to throw at idiots like Barnaby!

  16. PeeBee
    The business of supplying and distributing electricity is about making profit, which may or may not explain ths brownouts.
    The problem the LNP have at the moment is that they don’t really have the power to force profit making suppliers and distributors of electricity to deviate from their sole purpose which is to make a profit. Labor upon assuming government will have the same problems.
    Some regulation is in place at the three levels of government to regulate electricty but it will require the establishment of regulatory bodies at local, state and federal levels to manage the supply and distribution of power.
    Supply and demand is the main driver of regulation at the moment. The exception to this fact is that the electricity sector is not all privatised. Some states have proceeded down the path in various degrees and others not so much.
    What may save the ill-conceived haphazardly privatised electricity system in Australia is technology.
    Within ten years the technology will exist for ths majority of households to be completely off the grid. Some are already.
    A that point regulatory governance will need to be streamelined for any number of reasons at any number of levels.
    The political shenanigans needs to be factored into the debate about the future of electricity and its supply and distribution.
    Then there are the coal and gas industries.
    Then there is the global warming problem. Australia will be required to adhere to international regulations and ambitions.
    Its worth mentioning that solar panels at this stage have a shelf life and will need to be disposed of.
    Then there are batteries and the resources need to produce them, together with their disposal.
    Did I mention the car industry?
    Now that I’ve started, I realise and hope many of you realise that electricity and its supply and distribution will be an on-going, ever changing dilemma for all.

  18. The reason the Taxation Act and regulations, rulings etc is thousands of page is in part due to the smartie financial planners who work full time on finding holes, urging changes, getting trailing fees from their clients etc. hence the $5.7b leak from the revenue through the cash back dividend imputation rort, one of JWH’s sleeping timebombs he set up by bastardising a PJK policy.

    Really I have gone, just was lured back while something was printing.

    Personally the smartie financial planners are also rans, at the top end you have 4 massive global tax practices, with teams whose full time job is literally to understand that tax law and make it as easy and painless for their clients as possible, has and will always be so. You’d have 5 or more lawfirms with significant tax practices in every country. You have large global in house teams, in the one week looking at transferring losses in NZ, funding through the Netherlands, withholding in Norway etc etc etc. Not all these people are smart but they all have buckets of time and one fairly simple goal they are consistently working to.

    In exciting inside baseball news, this week Panama signed the OECD multilateral agreement for the exchange of Country by Country reports making them (rough probably wrong memory here) the 74th country to do so.

  20. PeeBee says:
    Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:06 pm
    Sgh1969, I just checked the AMEO site and noticed the spot price for electricity has dropped from $14,000 a mwh to very little (it is a graph and can’t read the actual number).

    This is the first time I have checked the site and therefore really know nothing about this, but I was wondering if the price drop and sheding have anything to do with each other.

    It makes me wonder if the ‘brown outs’, (which I guess is a polite way of saying ‘blackouts’) is a cost saving mechanism rather than a capacity issue.
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    It is usual for the spot price to drop to close to zero in the middle of the day when solar power generation is at a peak. This is when the hydro pump and store generators do their pumping. the retail price is smoothed out to remove the spot price variations. The more power the retailers can sell in the middle of the day the better their profits, so load shedding would not be a cost saving.

  21. PuffyTMD @ #1659 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 1:38 pm

    Andrew_Earlwood
    Thank you for that interesting information on Capt. James Cook. Ever since I saw a UK doco on him a couple of years ago, I have become intrigued by him. He was one smart cookie.

    So what are the odds he did survey Port Jackson but it was never made public? I wish his widow had not burned all his correspondence when she was old.

    There was a very good 6 part series titled Cook and the Pacific on the history channel last year. Accompanying book. Series was narrated by Sam Neill.

  22. ‘Gina Rinehart earns $1,077,054 every 30 minutes of every day. Gina Rinehart, who earns more than $1 million every 30 minutes, has been named the world’s richest woman.’

  24. sprocket_ @ #1666 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 9:46 am

    Yeah, I know it’s Buzzfeed; but they have been tying the dots together..

    The Liberal Government gave Warren Mundine’s company $220,000 to run a business show on SkyFoxNews, where he became the darling of the SkyAfterDark crew. Sort of a shill for hire.

    And now have selected him for Gilmore.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/joshtaylor/warren-mundine-sky-news-show-grant

    How much money do Governments normally give commercial TV outside advertising costs?

    At a time when ABC funding is being cut, this area or funding seems to be growing!

    Is this the case? 🙁

  25. Just for interest’s sake — writing a media release today for our local candidate, needed some words from Butler’s office re climate change – – one of the lines – ‘Over the coming months, we will again put out a very detailed policy that makes very clear what we intend to do sector by sector to contain and reduce carbon pollution.’

    As I’ve said before, Labor’s climate change policy isn’t out there yet.

  26. imacca says:
    Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:38 pm
    I propose taxing Gina and her mates until her ears bleed.
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    Thank you for that image. I may have nightmares tonight.

  29. As I’ve said before, Labor’s climate change policy isn’t out there yet.

    Zoom every chance you get encourage them to go hard, go bold, go big. Every cent invested in renewables and economic transformation and jobs in that sector is worth its weight in precious metals needed for batteries in votes.

    We are all sick of the go light, go scared, go quiet, don’t change anything posture. As the great man said we are sick of pretending we are broken from bending we’ve lived to long on our knees

  30. “So what are the odds he did survey Port Jackson but it was never made public? I wish his widow had not burned all his correspondence when she was old.”

    There is a recently published book entitled “Lying for the Admiralty” that strings together all the circumstantial evidence now available. According to a book review I read the evidence points to a small team making their way overland by land via what is now La Parouse to Farm Cove before being picked up by one of the Endeavor’s boats.

    For me the two telling points are the fact that the benefits as both a harbour and a place to establish a settlement are pretty obvious as one sails past the heads. That the great explorer didn’t poke into the Harbour, even for a quick reconnaissance beggars belief. Secoondly, it beggars belief that an expedition as large as the First Fleet would be committed to Botany Bay, which was pretty well surveyed by Cook, knowing that the surrounding land was a pretty marginal option when it came to the most precious commodity – water. The fact that Phillip shifted from Botany Bay pretty much straight away and ‘by chance’ lobbed into Sydney Harbour and ‘miraculously’ found a permanent water supply and land that could be readily cleared and farmed gives the game away: there was nothing ‘chance’ about it.

  31. The business of supplying and distributing electricity is about making profit

    Not in the better original colony it isn’t. I should not be.

  33. BigD

    In short, the Coalition Government have given a big fat zero to media companies, other than advertising and the string of donations to Murdoch – sport, Asian broadcasting.

    Until one of the Senate indies – I think Xenophon? Sold his media reform senate votes for a grant fund to small media companies. The first round of this has been announced..

    https://www.acma.gov.au/-/media/Diversity-Localism-and-Accessibility/Information/pdf/Innovation-Fund_Round-One_results-pdf.pdf?la=en

  34. …could stop Brexit right now yet refuses to do so. Enough said.

    No not nearly enough … which is the whole remain problem a Trump sized sense of entitlement and almost zero effort.

  35. steve davis says:
    Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:56 pm
    Labor have over 100 policies. Where are the Liberals policies? Crickets.

    _______________________________

    There is only one Liberal Party policy: We will protect you from the Great Satan Bill Shorten.

  36. The first round of this has been announced..

    Laughst out loud, then crys a little …

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  38. WeWantPaul @ #52892 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 12:31 pm

    two pillars of Australian taxation policy

    Or WWP does AOC but without the dancing ability or any shred of her political genius.

    The first pillar is that people in the same financial position (i.e. have the same assets and income) should be treated the same.

    This is a pillar. Good tax policy treats WWP and Nath the same if economically WWP and Nath are in the same position. It is a good pillar. If WWP lives close to his work and has no travel expenses and Nath lives a long way from work and has lots of travel expenses to earn his income then this pillar would recognise that.

    If WWP and Nath got exactly the same wage then WWP would pay more tax because she wouldn’t have that expense. This pillar also suggests that if WWP and Nath earn the same net money, but say WWP is earning a salary and Nath is self employed they would pay the same tax. Of course the rules do not support this pillar. Nath can’t deduct the travel expense if he is a wage and salary earner and can deduct it if he is self employed. If Nath is self employed he is going to pay a lot less tax for a whole lot of reasons (0nly one being the black economy which if used is an illegitimate means to that end).

    So it is a good pillar, just don’t expect it to work for you. If you are a wage and salary earner it is almost never ever going to work for you. A suit you wear to work every day of the year and once to a funeral, is going to be treated as if you only wore it to the funeral. If you live far from work that is you cost, you obviously should have lived close to work, and if your work moves you bear the cost of moving to follow it. Great pillar just don’t expect it to work for you if you are a wage and salary earner or someone of very low net wealth.

    It also is part of and disguises the biggest con. And that is almost all the rules are written to protect wealth. They all focus on the trickle of income and ignore if it is flowing into an already full body of water like the Sydney harbor or if Nath is drinking every single drop before it goes anywhere.

    There are some steps to recognise the pool in superannuation, but even retirement policy implemented through super tends to look at the trickle not the pool, eg div 293. There are very few justifications for being so hard on income and so soft on capital, in an ability to contribute to society frame.

    So even a good pillar is very poorly implemented. And when most of us can’t rely on that pillar then it is a bit precious using it to protect a perk that is clearly more part of the inequity than than the solution. But that is the key to the tropes of trickle down, they take a principle and selectively apply it to protect wealth.

    Now some well meaning beloved fellow travelers in PB are going to point out we all have some skin in the game in superfunds. And it is true. And I while I still think super is a good thing, notwithstanding there are some economists now standing up and saying it isn’t great for a whole lot of use, I’m certain the super system isn’t well tuned as part of a comprehensive cradle to grave retirement policy. In fact I’d argue the superannuation system in Australia has been tuned to function more like a trickle down / flood up machine than a sensible element of a holistic cradle to grade retirement system.

    But long argument short, super acts as the perfect ‘skin in the game’ where you give a whole lot of people very little skin in the game and then tell them they need to act to protect that very little skin in the game (and even better for the peasants it is a lot of skin) thereby protecting your massive wealth. For middle income earners and lower superannuation is far far too linked to the idiocy of wall street to be left the way it is.

    So that is the first pillar, excellent pillar, terrible and inconsistent implementation.

    The second great pillar:

    Secondly, where there are longstanding retirement rules under which people arrange their future when they cease working, there should be extensive grandfathering when fundamental changes are proposed.

    This is a terrible pillar, it should not be a pillar at all, for most of us it isn’t a thing at all. Obviously the impact of any change should be weighed against its impact on people and their planning, and good policy isn’t going to smash, particularly poor, people around. The WWP philosophy is for gentle and gradual movement towards a well defined and understood policy goal.

    Obviously generally in Australia since the late 90’s we’ve had very little by way of well defined and understood policy goals and what we have had has mostly been trickle down / flood up policy goals.

    But I said this pillar, which I’ll call the ‘certainty’ pillar is not a thing. Let me demonstrate. Nath is a Director at a big four accounting firm offering R&D consultancy services to tech startups on the path to partnership.

    Nath, our hypothetical Nath in a hypothetical world, just with Australian tax settings, buys a house on the Swan River (or the harbor for you losers in the other (lesser penal) original colony on the bad side of the country) and is very happy. Nath’s accounting firm gets hit with an ATO review, threats are made about applying the promoter penalties and Nath’s firm tosses out a number of partners in the dark of night to assuage the ATO and hopefully keep it all out of the papers to save from suffering reputation damage. Remember just hypothetical Nath isn’t real. Nath thinks it is a great opportunity with those pesky partners clearing off, and finances a new Tesla to really look the part. But rumors spread around the tech startups, Nath’s firm is suffering some reputational damage, and Nath is given a performance target that is impossible to meet, given two months to meet it and then sacked for cause with 4 weeks notice.

    Nath is going to struggle. Because life. This second pillar, if Nath could apply it, would say he financed a car and a home, on the expectation he’d have a job and a fantastic income, both on an up curve. You try telling the bank they can’t reposs your car or your house after a while if you can’t pay because the certainty principle says you should be able to rely on the past.

    This pillar is a really really bad pillar, it is used as a tool of trickle down / flood up and almost nowhere else. Everywhere else life is uncertain, risks have to be considered and decisions made. Only the really wealthy get to apply this ‘certainty principle’.

    We saw over Christmas how those on Government benefits got certainty over the holiday period (hint they didn’t get certainty they got their payments cut because the LNP are scum.

    So long boring story, I don’t expect anyone else to read, Chris Bowen and Bill Shorten need to get the f*ck off the trickle down / flood up bus and tell people about it pretty soon.

    Thanks for that WWP. I’ve learned much from today on PB.

  39. WeWantPaul

    Pollies love privatisation and it is not just the money or other ‘benefits’. When the electricity supply was state owned price increases,power failures etc saw them hammered by voters. Sell it off and hey presto ‘Nothing to do with me’ .

  40. In the ‘taxpayers definitely should be paying for that’ category:

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  41. “Lying for the Admiralty” by Margaret Cameron-Ash. I haven’t read it, but there is an extensive review in the latst edition of NSW Bar News (the journal of the NSW Bar Association).

  42. There is an enigmatic entry in cook’s diary about the Endeavour River, where he repaired his ship after running into the reef, saying, if I remember correctly, that it was not so big as he had been led to believe.

    Which means of course, that he either had this map or a similar one, or at least some text referring to it. He knew where to go to when the ship was damaged.

    I found this map from 1756 which appears to show the distinctive coastline near Cooktown, and the river, the more southern of the two marked:

    https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://nbdayun.me/early-maps-of-australia/&h=847&w=1024&tbnid=_8A9llXV26hNKM&tbnh=204&tbnw=247&usg=K_67F2jgLRE88NDMw_a6Uwpd8ws5w=&hl=en-AU&docid=1_FlYCOFIWuxfM

    The bay of Cooktown is marked Jerusalem la Neuve, (New Jerusalem) and the Endeavour river as R.S. Sauveur (Saviour)

    The only candidate for the more northern river, marked as R. Jordan, is the McIvor river.

    And the map here is on the cover of Lying for the Admiralty
    Margaret Cameron-Ash, foreword by John Howard !!

  43. Andrew_Earlwood @ #1690 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 10:07 am

    “Lying for the Admiralty” by Margaret Cameron-Ash. I haven’t read it, but there is an extensive review in the latst edition of NSW Bar News (the journal of the NSW Bar Association).

    Weren’t the Portuguese famous for displacing places on their maps so as to not give away their location?

  44. steve davis says:
    Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:37 pm
    MS
    I think there will always be at times an uncivilised edge to PB. Posters are passionate in what they believe and its no bad thing.It shows that they care.
    —————————————–
    It could be the posters care, or just as often it could be that they are blind partisans. Motivated more by spite or their own ignorance. The repeating of ridiculous mythology and speculation on random strangers on this blog is quite astounding at times.
    Frankly when the gang of Labor Noisy Minors of the PB garden are squawking away, it’s pretty lame.
    A self-proclaimed cheer squad going on about how great they are?
    Many I’m sure have more important and useful things to do with their live’s most of the time and are not so obsessed with dominating someone else’s blog 24/7.

  45. Barney in Go Dau @ #1692 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 2:09 pm

    Andrew_Earlwood @ #1690 Friday, January 25th, 2019 – 10:07 am

    “Lying for the Admiralty” by Margaret Cameron-Ash. I haven’t read it, but there is an extensive review in the latst edition of NSW Bar News (the journal of the NSW Bar Association).

    Weren’t the Portuguese famous for displacing places on their maps so as to not give away their location?

    I believe so. Also because they were not supposed to be in the longitudes of the east coast of Australia, by papal decree.

  48. Except that Brexit is the thing that Trump wants, and it’s the Brexiteers who think they can have their cake and eat it too.

    I realise the irony. The remainers should have won, and arguably should have already recovered from having not bothered to win with good argument. But they haven’t. They’ve done the equivalent of Trump locking himself in the oval office with a pile of cold hamberders and yelled that everyone is doing everything wrong. What Putin seems to understand and Remainers seem to have failed to understand is you’ve got to win hearts and minds. Remainers want to pretend they have, you know without doing it.

    As someone who thinks it is in the European and global interest for the UK to remain (I think Europe needs to punish them, perhaps require they join the common currency, or perhaps for those who enjoy irony increase humanitarian refugee intake massively) it is incredibly disappointing how poorly the remain case did make and continues to make its case.

  49. Quoll

    I have seen numerous posts from you deploring the puerile posts from Labor supporters.

    I don’t think I’ve seen a post from you which goes much beyond that.

    Isn’t that a bit hypocritical? Shouldn’t you NOT attack posters here but show us how it’s done by posting brilliant political analysis which leaves the personal out of it?

    Or can’t you do that?

  50. I support independent media and i was an original crikey subscriber, until they cleaned up their act too much, but really wtf, use myspace or you know squarespace, don’t bludge on taxpayers:

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