The fortnightly Essential poll — now appearing in Newspoll off weeks, praise be — follows Newspoll in recording Labor’s lead at 54-46, out from 53-47. Monthly personal ratings are better for Scott Morrison than Newspoll in that he remains in net positive territory, but the formerly undecided are breaking heavily against him, with his approval down two to 41% and disapproval up nine to 37%. Bill Shorten maintains his recent improving form, up five on approval to 38% and down one on disapproval to 44% – his second best result from the pollster in the past two years. However, the shift on preferred prime minister is relatively modest, with Morrison’s lead down from 42-27 to 41-29.
Other findings: 44% support Australia becoming a republic in principle, down four since May, with 32% opposed; 61% have a favourable view of Queen Elizabeth, 68% of Prince William, 70% of Prince Harry but only 33% of Prince Charles. The Guardian report is here; the full report from Essential Research, including primary votes, will be with us later today. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1028.
UPDATE: Full report from Essential Research here, and the primary vote shifts are on the high end from what you’d expect out of a one-point shift on two-party preferred: the Coalition is down two to 36%, and Labor up two to 39%, the Greens are steady on 10% and One Nation are down one to 6%.
The Defence Barrister is an old white male. So he is guilty as well.
Boerwar @ #1399 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 12:41 pm
You’re in sync with Mark Latham.
Trolls.
Don’t feed em.
Psyclaw
True. I did not know the correct legal terminology.
Apart from that we do know some of the evidence.
The observations based on the publicly available evidence is as above.
Inconsistent and contradictory evidence on the part of the defence witnesses has been reported at length.
IMO, and FWIW, had ANY of the witnesses for the old white male litigant given inconsistent or contradictory evidence, this would have been reported. But none was reported.
The good thing is that the old white male who is the judge is saying that he has not made up his mind yet. We know he is probably not telling the truth about this because he is an old white male.
And it is just as well he is telling this possible untruth because the two sides have yet to complete their final submissions.
The very idea of Nicholas calling another person naive is truly amusing. His self awareness is gobsmacking.
TPOF
“We will, however, never tolerate a reporter placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job as a White House intern…”
I haven’t relooked at the video, however my recollection is that Acosta “shielded ” the microphone & at no time did he lay hands on the intern.. next WH press conference with Sanders will be a doozey
Re the reporting on the Judge’s line about the ‘King Leer’ headline. I wonder how many people read just the headline and not the rest of the article, which showed the Judge more considerate of Blackburn’s arguments. Personally, I think most people get most of their news and information from headlines – but the responses here, including Nicholas’s absurdly prejudiced comment, demonstrate how powerful such a headline can be.
Which is the essence of Rush’s defamation case. Not whether or not Ms Norvill is telling the ‘truth’.
sceptic @ #1405 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 12:53 pm
bludgers can make up their own minds…
https://twitter.com/KaywinnetL/status/1060340288739262464
sceptic at 12.53
Go to the Guardian Live report. The video is there – along with tweets from other members of the Press Corps who are absolutely outraged by Sanders and calling her a liar.
TPOF @ #1397 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 12:36 pm
There is direct video of the whole sequence of events here:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-calls-cnn-s-jim-acosta-a-rude-terrible-person-press-pass-suspended-1.4167573
which shows that Acosta did not, at any point, place his hands on the woman trying to remove the microphone. Another straight out, provable lie.
‘Psyclaw says:
Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 12:09 pm
1. Witnesses who say”I didn’t see anything” are of zero probitive value in proving or disproving an event.
Witnesses who do contradict themselves and each other are generally less credible than witnesses who manage to stay consistent and who not contradictory.
‘2. How does BB know what the judge is thinking.’
The judge himself reckons he has not made up his mind so I would not know how BB knows that.
‘3. With the exception of Family Law cases, malicious accusations are quite rare.’
This may be true but it has zero value in any particular instance. Further, in this case the original ‘accusations’ were transmuted by the Tele. And no-one that I know would accuse the Tele of totally lacking in maliciousness.
‘4. Those who strongly identify with the issue of malicious accusations are usually older white males.’
Strange that. When old white males are guilty before a trial happens (as has been frequently asserted by other Bludgers), why not?
‘5. When child sexual abuse first arose as a major issue in schools during the ‘90s there was widespread (very widedpread) anxiety in men teachers that naughty kids that they’d disciplined would get even by making false allegations against teachers. Did not occur.’
I have had first hand experience of a person in my employment who was accused by two children of child sexual assault. We were made aware of the complaints. We phoned the police. The school phoned us to say that these two kids had several times made false and malicious complaints already. We told them to phone the police. We heard nothing more. The worker was distraught. But then he was only an old white male.
‘6. Since this is a defamation case Rush V NewsCorp, whatever the outcome is will not specifically answer the question as to whether an assault took place. That would require a judge and jury and a Crown prosecutor and the application of NSW Criminal law, not Defamation law.’
This is true. But it has not stopped several bludgers from judging Rush to be guilty.
We are expected to vote for this: 3 ALP MPs who voted to keep abortion in the Crimes Act (NSW)
Shaoquett Moselmane (Labor)
Greg Donnelly (Labor)
Best known for: hijacking a parliamentary debate about International Women’s Day to spew bizarre claims about Lady Gaga causing young boys to start thinking that “women and young girls are fair game and that they can go to a party on the weekend, get loaded up with grog and that it’s their right to ask a young girl for a head job or for anal sex or to push a young woman up against a wall and have sex.” Fuckin’ what.
Ernest Wong (Labor)
Best known for: being the key link between NSW and federal Labor politicians and a small clique of wealthy Chinese-Australian businessmen.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/here-are-the-nsw-mps-who-voted-to-keep-abortion-in-the-crimes-act/
So, having tallied up the major environmental, economic and social reforms enacted by the Greens over their first three decades we get:
nath
Right – so don’t vote for those guys. I doubt any are standing in any electorate you’re likely to vote in.
‘Nicholas says:
Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 12:25 pm
It isn’t surprising that an out-of-touch older judge who’s led a sheltered life has difficulty understanding the nature of sexual harassment and why it is not acceptable in today’s workplaces. He really is a very naive man who is ill-suited to making decisions on this issue.’
My advice would be take it up with psyclaw.
zoomster
says:
Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 1:03 pm
nath
Right – so don’t vote for those guys. I doubt any are standing in any electorate you’re likely to vote in.
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There’s a lot more like these guys in the ALP. These clowns are just the tip of the iceberg.
Those of you who might be thinking of visiting Canberra might want to wrap this into your planning:
https://springout.com.au/
Nicholas
So you know him personally?
nath
Ernest Wong has been active in another vital area though.
.
“Wong has been very vocal on the Japanese imperial invasion during the Second World War, delivering numerous speeches related to the war”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Wong
Nicholas @ #1392 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 12:25 pm
You really are a fruitloop.
Psyclaw,
The judge has made his skepticism concerning Norvill’s version of events explicitly apparent in comments made during the defence barrister’s summing up, over the past two days. I am not imagining them.
Touhy also makes specific reference to these comments. On her pary, she expresses surprise and disappointment that he would hesitate to believe Norvill’s evidence and interpretation of events.
Norvill has told several versions of her time in the Lear production.
* 2015: A wonderful experience, positive in every way, including her friendship with Rush;
* 2017: A few worries about Geoffrey’s behaviour, didn’t want to make a big deal of it, just to let you know…;
* 2018: A humiliating sexual harassment that all present – director, co-actors, stage management, theatre management – were aware of. Instead of helping Norvill they all laughed at her, then compounded this by lying under oath about it. They are all rotten. The entire industry is rotten with sexual bastardization rituals. This is because they are mostly old males, with old women their willing accomplices.
Norvill spins a convincing yarn, tailored for the audience. She can use the same factual circumstances to describe delight and appreciation for publicity purpises, some concerns (but not enough to complain about) for HR purposes, abject ruination and mental torture at the hands of cruel elites for legal purposes, with possibly millions at stake for the people whose case she is assisting.
Norvill is an actress after all. But which role is the REAL Eryn?
Without substantial corroboration, she has a legion of supporters who conveniently dismiss the need for proof. The fact that she has made the allegations is enough. Why would she ruin her career by making them? (Of course, why would Rush ruin his own career by defending them?).
In answer to the proposition that, as a young actress who didn’t cut it in Hollywood, it’s better for Norvill to be ON-side with a sister company of 21st Century Fox than OFF, the cries of outrage ring high. How DARE anyone impugn Norvilk’s motives?
Well, you DID ask, didn’t you? But the real impetus behind the outrage is that Norvill – in word or motivation – should be doubted. Once again we return to her implicit believability, despite the puzzling evolution of her story from enlightenment to despair, despite its paucity of corroboration, despite its inconsistencies. Touhy puts it this way : it’s Australia’s turn for a dose of #metoo-ism. We may as well start by ruining Geoffrey Rush.
Anyway, I’ve tried to answer your questions with fact, reason and argument, rather than simply by declaration alone (as others claim is all that is necessary).
In case you were wondering –
nath
I encourage – as I always have – to look at the candidates on offer in the electorate you’re voting in, and take their personal views into account as well as the party they represent.
That’s the best way to ensure that parties will preselect candidates of quality.
‘A lie’: Watch slow motion video of CNN’s Jim Acosta prove White House staffer touched him four times
The White House released a statement Wednesday making it sound as if CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta “placing his hands” on a “young woman” without her consent. The video of the incident shows nothing of the sort. Indeed, the White House staffer was the one who touched Acosta without consent.
Raw Story slowed down the video and paused it on the incidents of contact showing the four impact zones. The first case, the White House staffer reached over Acosta’s arm, touching him as she reached for the microphone. She then is seen making a second go for the microphone over the top of Acosta’s arm where she touched him a second time.
The final encounter came when she reached under Acosta, who was gesturing to President Donald Trump at the time. The third impact zone was Acosta’s right hand, holding the microphone. Acosta can be seen pulling away and his left arm, gesturing toward the president, comes down as the White House staffer straightens her arm, making the fourth point of contact.
Acosta even went so far as to say, “excuse me, ma’am.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/lie-watch-slow-motion-video-cnns-jim-acosta-proves-white-house-staffer-touched-four-times/
Lizzie
Not on the bus then? I thought it was an express.
“We will, however, never tolerate a reporter placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job as a White House intern…”
Says the spokeswoman for the guy who said, “You can just grab them by the pussy.”
O…….K……
NSW Labor still a joke
C@t
“We will, however, never tolerate a reporter placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job as a White House intern…”
Says the spokeswoman for the guy who said, “You can just grab them by the pussy.”
O…….K……
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Like every good capitalist, Trump sees everyone as potential competition and needs to crush it!
So how come Shorten and the ALP are regularly accused of popularism, but the Liberals with their repeated tax cuts or higher tax scare campaigns are not.
The Acosta issue is interesting. That Trump lies is a given, what the media will do about it is something else.
I note that Hayne has released detail offered by our Financial Institutions under invitation – so self reporting
BUT only a handful of public submissions, totaling around 1,000, have seen the light of day
Until Hayne accepts the invitation to extend and expand the Royal Commission he remains tainted
This RC is fundamental to the well functioning of our banking industry, an industry absolutely vital to the good order of society and an Industry which has not performed to its responsibility – since deregulation
This under performance is down to culture, nepotism within that culture and education being the education of staff
The Hayne RC has the opportunity to learn and to then affirm the portals of prudent banking
And I repeat it is the function of any banker to firstly sell the credentials of any borrower to the bank – and then sell the services of the bank to the client
The credentials are equity, intent and capacity which, melded together, result in an approval
As an aside, compared to bankers Accountants get it very, very easy because Accountants do not assess risk – and they do not lend other people’s money as banks very substantially do
It will be interesting to see if Foley tries to ride this out.
Pissed idiot excuse, is no excuse.
On face value it doesn’t look good and his original decision is probably the best one.
Rex Douglas
says:
Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 1:19 pm
NSW Labor still a joke
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The ALP NSW Right Crime Family has been active for decades.
Barney in Go Dau @ #1431 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 1:21 pm
I don’t see how he can. He’s been caught in an outright lie. With witnesses.
Foley must resign.
Now.
Barney in Go Dau @ #1431 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 1:21 pm
Foley is just another persecuted old white male…
Looks like a future of ‘spending more time with the family’ for Foley
ABC journalist releases explosive statement about Luke Foley
https://outline.com/tYP9za
Trump sure knows where to find them:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/07/matthew-whitaker-trump-attorney-general-us-firm
That ABC statement and, particularly, Ashleigh Raper’s statement is very interesting for what it says about men using the assault of women for their own ends – making the damage so much worse.
It’s why the Daily Telegraph absolutely morally deserves to lose its case. it published not in the public interest but for its own vile purposes. Ditto, two pieces of moral trash – Elliott and Abetz – who put the matter in the public domain for their cheap political purposes.
By all means, people like Weinstein need to be outed for persistent predatory and criminal behaviour, based on carefully researched and considered evidence. But cheap shots for reasons that have nothing to do with the well-being of the person concerned or of women in general?
Yup. Not a good situation. Legal advice may have been that if he resigns and confirms what happened he’s then, rightly i’d say, open to legal action from her ?? But, doesn’t sound like she wants to go through that. Messy.
Looks like Foley has fucked up. Too bad he was doing a good job but there is no place for this type of behavior in party leadership.
He deserves the benefit of the doubt that is routinely extended to white men. The social order would crumble if this principle were removed. There would be utter chaos if white men were held accountable for their transgressions. There would no doubt be mass hysteria, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living in harmony.
I know this is a political blog, but really it is less about Foley than it is about the victim – and she is a victim – twice over. I suspect worse the second time as she tried to put that single incident behind her.
NSW Labor’s only hope is to replace Foley with a genuine progressive woman of the left.
The White House Correspondents’ Association president Olivier Knox has issued a statement responding to the revocation of Jim Acosta’s press credentials.
Calling the White House’s action “out of line to the purported offense” and “unacceptable”, Knox “urge[d] the White House to immediately reverse this weak and misguided action”.
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From the Guardian blog.
The legal advice Foley is supposedly following is pretty stupid legal advice.
You’re done Luke. Like retire from politics done.
“Looks like Foley has fucked up. Too bad he was doing a good job but there is no place for this type of behavior in party leadership.”
Hmmm…….agreed. Decision to resign is least worst outcome for Foley, Raper, and the ALP i think. Knocks it on the head and limits the fallout State and Federal.
Big factor i think is respecting the obvious wishes of Ms Raper for this not to blow up into a full on media circus.
She has the absolute right to take that position.
Luke Foley
@Luke_FoleyNSW
Dr
@Sam_R_Oakes
inspiring girls to pursue careers in science at Auburn Girls High School international womens day breakfast #allaboutwomen
Foley has got to go.
Doesn’t mean we have to leave the State Government in the hands of the agents of Macquarie Bank, miners, developers and other spivs.
ratsak @ #1445 Thursday, November 8th, 2018 – 1:34 pm
Yup. Foley is finished. If not now then at the ballot box.
The only question left is whether he will take the ‘nuclear’ option and carry out his threat to name the names of the offenders on the other side of politics.