Further Friday free-for-all

Amid an otherwise quiet week for polling, a privately conducted ReachTEL poll offers further evidence the Liberals are on shaky ground in Wentworth.

It’s been a quiet week on the poll front, and indeed it’s worth noting that polling generally is thinner on the ground than it used to be – the once weekly Essential Research series went fortnightly at the start of the year, neither Sky News nor Seven has been treating us to federal ReachTEL polls like they used to, and even the Fairfax-Ipsos poll has pared back its sample sizes in recent times from 1400 to 1200. I suspect we won’t be getting the normally-fortnightly Newspoll on Sunday night either, as these are usually timed to coincide with the resumption of parliament, for which we will have to wait another week. I can at least relate the following:

• The Guardian has results from a ReachTEL poll of Wentworth conducted for independent candidate Licia Heath, conducted last Thursday from a sample of 727. After exclusion of the 5.6% undecided the results are Dave Sharma (Liberal) 43.0%; Tim Murray (Labor) 20.7%; Kerryn Phelps (independent) 17.9%; Licia Heath (independent) 10.0% and Dominic Wy Kanak (Greens) 6.6%. The poll also comes with a 51-49 Liberal-versus-Labor two-party result, but this a) assumes Tim Murray would not be overtaken by Kerryn Phelps after allocation of preferences, and b) credits Labor with over three-quarters of independent and minor party preferences, which seems highly implausible. The poll also reportedly finds “as many as 52% of people said high-profile independent candidate Kerryn Phelps’ decision to preference the Liberals made it less likely they would give her their vote”, but this would seem to be a complex issue given Phelps’s flip-flop on the subject.

• The Guardian also has results of polling by ReachTEL for the Australian Education Union on the federal goverment’s funding deal for Catholic and independent schools, conducted last Thursday from a sample of 1261 respondents in Corangamite, Dunkley, Forde, Capricornia, Flynn, Gilmore, Robertson and Banks. The report dwells too much on what the small sub-sample of undecided voters thought, but it does at least relate that 38.6% of all respondents said the deal made them less likely to vote Liberal.

• Back to Wentworth, I had a paywalled article on the subject in Crikey, and took part in a mostly Wentworth-related podcast yesterday with Ben Raue of The Tally Room, along with Georgia Tkachuk of Collins Gartrell, which you can access below.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. @Nicholas

    If a first-year physics student has spent nearly two decades standing while urinating, they have spent thousands of minutes observing parabolic curves (the urine stream moving through the air). A first-year physics student who did all of her life’s urinating while sitting down has not seen as many parabolic curves in her lifetime. Perhaps this means that male first-year physics students have unconsciously grasped the concept of projectile in motion to a greater degree than female first-year physics students.

    Yes, we think this is the obvious answer.

    My OH suggested that the way I phrased the problem and the research, in my posts to PB, was framing the question and asking for a “wink-wink nudge-nudge” answer.

    But I disagree. If anyone can come up with a reason for the discrepancy between the male and female answers, as detailed in posts above, I would be really interested to hear it, because the obvious answers is not always the correct answer.

    That being said, as soon as I heard the research being explained in a colloquium, even before the punchline, I though “bingo”. Now we know why men are better slightly better at spatio-perceptual thinking.

    As the mother of 3 boys, the time, around age 2 – 3, when they realise how much fun it is to control the projectile motion of urinating, still sticks in my mind. Lots of cleaning bathrooms, but still happy the boy is toilet trained.

    OH, whose mother was French, has a different perspective. He felt he had to understand projectile motion early, and make sure the stream landed in the toilet bowl, or his mother would berate him. French mother expect their children to behave.

  2. Brett Kavanaugh lied under oath many times about his drinking and the meaning of terms in his high school year book. Many people who went to school with him have confirmed that his claims about those matters are absurd. The FBI did not interview those people because their terms of reference was kept very narrow. They didn’t even interview Ford or Kavanaugh.

    Fortunately if the Democrats take back the House, the House will investigate not only the sexual assault allegations by Ford and other people, but also the question of whether Brett Kavanaugh committed perjury.

    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/5/17941374/house-democrats-brett-kavanaugh-nadler-pelosi

  3. C@tmomma @ #1043 Saturday, October 6th, 2018 – 7:55 pm

    I have just finished watching Real Time (thank you ‘fess 🙂 ) and the most salient point made by the panel about the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing was that, due to the hullabaloo over the sexual assault, arguably more important matters, such as his judicial record, were overlooked. Then Dr Ford and her accusations were trashed anyway, so kind of, what was the point of it in the end? Or, it was not the game changer the Democrats were hoping for and, in fact, it had the perverse effect of riling up, up till that point, disinterested Republican voters.

    The point that none of them made on the show is that Republicans were locking and loading behind ramming Kavanaugh’s confirmation through without proper and fulsome examination of his suitability for the court. These things like his temperament, his rank partisanship, political baggage and lack of impartiality would likely be exposed under routine Senate examination, but were not because of the GOP rushing through his confrmation.

    Dems needed a circuit breaker to that, and Ford’s allegations gave the Senate committee the perfect reason to pause and reflect. Of course they had to go there.

  4. While the job interview idea is one way of looking at it, not too many job interviews are broadcast nationally.

    Whatever way you look at it Kavanagh has had his personal reputation damaged – his wife, daughters etc and if he fails to get this job his career is basically ended.

    So should he NOT be confirmed I would expect him to sue those who made allegations. They had better have some more support for their claims than what we have seen so far.

    The reality is that if a referee in an interview process had made the same allegations and they were uncovered via FOI, then you or I would sue for damages or take whatever legal avenues available to seek justice and recompense.

    If for example two disgruntled Labor women, a Green and a mad Liberal made allegations about Bill Shorten, most of you are in effect saying he should resign, immediately resign as LOTO. after all the election is just a job interview and not everyone can get the job. Even if the labor party person, said it happened at a Young Labor camp, not sure which one it was or what year it was but I think it was 1982 or 1985 or 1988, you would say OK we must believe the survivor. The fact that no one else remembers you were there at the same time as Bill is irrelevant.

  5. D&M
    I think the difference between men being better at visual/map/geometry and women being better at language/word/verbal explanations accounts for the difference.

    On the $100M for Everest, I only quoted it because someone said they hadn’t seen the figure. My guess is it is total BS. We get told in SA that the Tour Down Under brings in $30M and that lasts a week. I can’t believe some crap artificial horse race no-one has ever heard of with no history is bringing in $100M. But we never find out because everything is commercial in confidence.

  6. Nicholas

    You make an interesting and important point. Now I watched Kavanagh pretty closely and I do not think what he said re drinking would be perjury. He admitted drinking too much beer and falling asleep and vomiting. The only thing he denied was having no recollection. This would be impossible to prove ie he was drunk as a skunk but he could still remember he was drunk and where he was. The obvious point is also that if he was so very drunk he did not remember then he would not remember being so drunk so he may have unwittingly not told the truth but it would not be perjury.

    The year book is a different matter. I think He COULD go down for perjury there since he was pretty obviously not telling the truth. No one obvious lie was the Renata alumni stuff but I do not think any politician would want to use that one for an impeachment/perjury case. Can you imagine the case. To prove perjury you would need to get a whole lot of men to say they had been with this unfortunate Renata. Their wives and daughters would kill them so they would not be available to testify.

    Pretty well everything else he said was couched fairly generally, so hard to prove perjury.

    Sadly however I think that Christine Ford will face some major problems if he decides to sue. Her story has so many holes that you could fly a fleet of B52s through it. If she is found to have made the allegation with malicious intent then she will not have to worry about the front door on her tent, once she pays up the damages there will not be a house to worry about.

  7. It could also be evolutionary.

    In traditional hunter gatherer societies men often hunted with some form of projectile weapon (e.g. spears, bows and arrows, rocks).

    Women, tended to do the gathering, which didn’t involve much throwing, but did mean that they contributed the majority of the calories to the group.

    So perhaps those men who were better at calculating trajectories were better hunters (or fighters) and so more likely to have more surviving offspring. Given their different roles, women were not selected (in the evolutionary sense of the word) for these skills.

    I’m told that men and women tend to navigate differently. According to the story, men tend to build a mental map, whereas women tend to use landmarks. Not being both a man and women I’m unable to determine the veracity of this claim.

  8. Daretotread is right. The Supreme Court Of Poll Bkudger would get all defensive and legalistic if it was someone from THEIR side who was accused, without serious corroboration, of a crime (was it even a crime?) he was supposed to have committed 35 years ago.

    I have no brief to carry for Kavanagh, but most here – with a few exceptions – have had him as guilty since Day #1, indeed Minute #1, seemingly because:

    ● He is Donald Trump’s nominee,
    ● He has been accused of a sex crime, and the mere accusation is enough nowadays,
    ● He is a “frat boy” and they’re always guilty.

    The swiftness to condemnation around here is pretty scary.

  9. “I’m told that men and women tend to navigate differently.”
    I thought the main difference in navigation is that men aren’t allowed to ask for directions on pain of death.

  10. Nicholas:

    [‘Brett Kavanaugh lied under oath many times about his drinking and the meaning of terms in his high school year book.’]

    It follows therefore, you’ve not sinned(?) Not that I’m accusing you of being sanctimonious.

  11. “It could also be evolutionary.

    In traditional hunter gatherer societies men often hunted”
    There was a big evolutionary advantage to hunters being able to stray further from home and still find their way back as they could find more food. Gatherers were selected for social skills (like Abbott), patience and their ability interact over longer periods of time.

  12. Lying under oath is a very serious matter. That Kavanaugh was prepared to do it to secure a seat on the SC demonstrates how unfit he is for the post. His partisan ranting and his rudeness to Senators was an unprecedented violation of how a judge is supposed to behave. He has caused a lot of damage to the institution of the SC already. If the eight other judges got to vote on his fitness to join them, it would be interesting to see the result. If it were 4-4 along party lines then it’s clear the SC doesn’t deserve to be defended as a non-partisan institution. If some of the Republican appointed justices don’t want him to join the court because they see how damaging it would be to the court’s legitimacy, it would show that the court is still worth defending.

    If the Dems take the House they need to follow through on their plan to conduct the thorough investigation that the Senate failed to do.

    If the numbers are there in the House next year to pass articles of impeachment, the House should do that. He won’t be convicted by the Senate, but just the fact of being impeached will deny him the veneer of respectability that he is hoping to get (and does not deserve).

    Perhaps the House hearings will uncover evidence that will lead to prosecution over sexual assault allegations (one of the allegations relates to an offence that does not have a statute of limitations; prosecutors in Maryland could present an indictment).

    Kavanaugh is in for a world of hurt.

    The silver lining is that Democrats are waking up to the reality that they have to play hardball with Republicans. When your opponents trash norms, rig rules, and show no good faith at all, it is necessary to penalise the poor behaviour. Otherwise they just keep doing it.

  13. WB, I haven’t been following it closely, but even if it’s true about the “perjury”, the PB Supreme Court has had him guilty of the original sexual assault long, long before he opened his mouth to answer the allegations against him, and still do.

    What I don’t like is that anyone who makes an allegation of sexual assault, no matter how ancient the incident, is automatically assumed:

    ● to have perfect recall,
    ● to have suffered mental agonies ever since,
    ● to be entitled to have their allegations presumed to be true.

    The accused is always a scumbag liar who is getting his just desserts after a lifetime of malignant behaviour.

    Life is usually a little mire nuanced and complicated than that, and the truth usually has more shades of grey.

  14. BZ

    That political compass is very USA centric and many of the questions are just not part of Australian thinking – the one on medical access, the racist one and one on charities for example. So I wouls assume that all Australians (other than IPA) would skew to the left

    I came out as very far left economically – 8.7 but more authoritarian than you (about -4.5)

  15. The AFR article re the GFC including the time line from BNP Paribus nominating sub prime debt as worthless in mid 2007 is educational

    No doubt the responses of Steven and Henry and the Rudd governments deserved the high praise that was lavished on them

    There are no doubt many, attracted to margin lending products etc etc and investing in Companies that did not survive have never recovered

    I recall attending a conference in July 2007 where sub prime debt and the integrity (or lack thereof) of sub prime debt and collateralision were very briefly mentioned – but saw me rebalance my superannuation accruals to 80% Cash as a result

    From there it was sit and wait

    Note also that the 100 Basis point reduction in the Cash Rate took that Rate to 6%, having been driven to over 7% by government introduced inflation – and making products such as Margin Lending attractive – hence Storm Financial and the other Investment Companies mentioned all of which failed taking investor wealth with them

    This was the legacy of Howard and Costello

    The current government is similarly dysfunctional and dangerous

    We see all asset classes underperforming – Cash with the 10 Year Bond Yield stagnant at 2.73% reflecting under target inflation, the ASX 7% under its 2007 peak and house prices cooling – all in a flat to recessionary wages growth economy

    Abject mismanagement by a dysfunctional government

    Then we add energy and other COL pressures now exacerbated by the oil price and imported increases in borrowing costs courtesy of wholesale funding increases

    And just to add to that, the AUD in free fall – putting pressure on struggling retailers and other areas of the economy including paying for the gas we exported in the first instance

    And all we have is the bothersome, bumbling Borrison – totally out of his depth

    Shorten will have the very skilled Lowe but will need to reappoint to Treasury, because political appointments just do not cut it

    You require frank and fearless advice

    Not the cowering we see at the ABC

  16. Fairfax must love having Alan Jones commit outrageous acts and utter disgusting incitements over at Fairfax subsidiary 2GB, only to have their tame, “socially conscious” journos at the SMH protest and condemn everything Jones says and does.

    If we’re talking horse races and gambling metaphors , Fairfax is the champion of the each-way bet.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/have-your-race-leave-the-opera-house-alone-20181006-p50859.html

  17. Kavanaugh has passed the basic test in Republican politics. By showing he can lie without reservation about himself, he has shown he is capable of misconstruing the law too; that he will distort the law to serve the goals of the Republican counter-reformation as soon as he’s asked.

    As a liar, he perfectly fits the bill.

  18. Considering their generally contemptuous tone when it comes to Democrats, it’s more than passingly ironic that N is pinning their hopes on the return of a Democratic majority at the coming elections.

    The strength of the Right is persistently under-estimated by the pop-left, who serve the goals of their supposed antagonists by campaigning against Democratic figures whenever they have the chance.

    For mine, this all just goes to show that the social democratic fabric is being torn to bits by the Right. The Right are subverting the whole game.

  19. Another great sentiment from Bill Shorten:

    “I think the Australian people deserve the next election to be a contest of policies and ideas. A national debate that isn’t about tonight’s news or tomorrow’s papers, but the Australia of 2030 and 2040.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/07/labors-left-wing-growing-uneasy-about-nauru-children-and-pacific-trade-deal

    And, oh look, Labor’s Left going public with their concerns about children on Nauru and the TPP11.

    Will it derail Bill Shorten in Revesby today!?! I don’t think so. 🙂

  20. Cat

    Yes that awkward time running around trying to work out which things have changed automatically! I have been fooled before, so now have my analogue watch next to bed to be sure.

    And I see Kavanaugh was just officially confirmed minutes ago. As I have predicted here previously I believe that he will not serve on the Supreme Court for as long as is typical, and will retire prematurely due to health reasons. As for the politics – now that it is not a “live” issue I can’t really see it making much of a difference in getting out the Republican vote. It may help the Democrats a bit though.

    50-48 in favour. West Virginian Democrat Manchin voting “yes”, and Alaskan Republican Murkowski a delared “no” – but she actually abstained to ‘pair’ her colleague Montana Senator Daines, so that the result was the equivalent of the 51-49 if he had been there. He was at his daughter’s wedding.

  21. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    It seems like Gladys has backed the wrong horse with Opera House advertising.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/son-of-sydney-opera-house-architect-appalled-by-advertising-on-sails-20181006-p5085s.html
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/have-your-race-leave-the-opera-house-alone-20181006-p50859.html
    In the wake of this Michael Pascoe apologises to The Parrot telling him that he really DOES run the state.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2018/10/06/apologies-alan-jones/
    In a long contribution Jane Cadzow tells us about the civil war waging within the ABC before the poop hit the fan.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-barbarians-are-not-at-the-gate-they-re-in-the-building-20181001-p50728.html
    Demands for a change in top-level decision-making at the ABC include the idea of replacing the governing Board — calling for better public scrutiny of that generally off-the-record body. Media editor Lee Duffield says asking the Board what it knew about machinations between the now departed Chairman and Managing Director is a logical follow-up to crisis in the organisation.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abc-crisis-at-the-top-will-the-board-members-please-tell,11968
    Matthew Knott writes that with Kavanaugh’s appointment, progressive America’s nightmare has arrived.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/with-kavanaugh-s-appointment-progressive-america-s-nightmare-has-arrived-20181006-p50858.html
    The Washington Post’s Max Boot says that Cavanaugh’s confirmation is a mindless exercise in party loyalty.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/kavanaugh-s-confirmation-is-a-mindless-exercise-in-party-loyalty-20181006-p5084m.html
    And the SMH editorialises that a Justice Kavanaugh will almost surely create a significantly more conservative majority on the Supreme Court and shift the law to the right on a wide front – from abortion and affirmative action to environmental protection, gun rights, immigration, property rights and religion.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/a-justice-kavanaughs-impact-will-be-felt-quickly-likely-creating-a-more-conservative-supreme-court-20181006-p5084p.html
    Pope Francis has ordered a “thorough study” of all documents in Vatican offices concerning disgraced former US Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, in the Holy See’s first response to accusations raised against the pontiff in the case. Should we hold our breath?
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/pope-orders-thorough-study-of-vatican-documents-in-mccarrick-abuse-case-20181007-p5086v.html
    Katharine Murphy writes that Shorten has acknowledged the opposition had taken some hits by championing brave policies, like changes to negative gearing and dividend imputation. But he promised goodies were on the way. Thanks to all that revenue raising, there would be spending between now and December.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/06/finish-line-in-sight-for-shorten-but-a-public-fight-over-trade-looms
    Nicole Hasham explains why Australia is being left behind when it comes to the adoption of electric cars.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/electric-cars-would-save-lives-and-cut-costs-but-australians-risk-being-left-behind-20180914-p503th.html
    John Hewson has all but urged voters in Wentworth to reject the party he once led, telling them to register a protest vote over the government’s failure to tackle climate change.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/06/wentworth-byelection-john-hewson-says-seat-ripe-for-protest-vote
    Daryl Dixon writes that that Australian share prices could well be placed under considerable selling pressure over the next 12 months because of US interest rate rises and possible changes to the imputation credit system.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/us-rates-franking-changes-mean-uncertainty-for-australian-investors-20181003-p507h1.html
    Chris Zappone looks closely at the government’s bill that would require a level of co-operation from technology companies that the industry and activists have long resisted.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/tech-s-challenge-for-democracy-isn-t-just-an-engineering-matter-20180928-p506l2.html
    Here’s Peter FitzSimons’ weekly column.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/post-war-record-for-appalling-jones-sinks-to-new-low-20181005-p507zy.html
    Jacqui Maley laments the propensity of the government to commission reports and then do nothing about their outcomes. She also lambasts the idiotic Craig Kelly.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/got-a-political-problem-commission-a-report-20181005-p5080j.html
    Elizabeth Knight explains how the plans to turn Sydney’s spooky St James tunnels into cool nightspots has an inherent problem.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/there-s-a-snag-in-turning-hidden-into-hip-20181004-p507qt.html
    A gloomy forecast that SA’s weather and bushfire warnings could be made by interstate meteorologists has raised both State Government and union concern.
    https://www.outline.com/wRWGXF
    Latika Bourke says that Theresa May is safe – for now.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/anyone-but-boris-british-mps-come-around-to-theresa-may-s-resilience-20181004-p507u8.html
    Labor’s left faction is beginning to raise its voice about the plight of children on Nauru – concerns have been raised at a meeting of factional convenors and union bosses, and there has been a public expression of unease from the member for Batman, Ged Kearney.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/07/labors-left-wing-growing-uneasy-about-nauru-children-and-pacific-trade-deal
    Helen Pitt goes to her own experience to talk about the serious issue of mental illness and suicide.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/fate-worse-than-death-that-seems-to-have-touched-most-of-us-20181004-p507n8.html
    And the SMH editorial says that with respect to the increasing rate of suicide in Australia for years, countless experts have been imploring governments to provide far more early intervention, particularly for young people, and ongoing support once a problem emerges. Too few people have access to mental-health support.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-we-can-reverse-rise-in-suicide-20181006-p5085h.html
    Michael Koziol reports that the Productivity Commission will undertake a major inquiry into the role of mental health in the economy as the Morrison government looks to extract better value from the $9 billion a year spent on mental wellbeing.
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/productivity-commission-to-examine-mental-health-spending-in-wake-of-suicide-crisis-20181006-p50850.html
    The Dietitians Association of Australia has pledged to cut financial ties with the sugar lobby following a series of investigations by science journalist Dr Maryanne Demasi.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/vindication-dietitians-cut-ties-with-sugar-lobby/
    Microsoft has suspended the installation of its October 2018 Windows update after reports of mass deletions of files.
    https://outline.com/VJM6tV
    And here is today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week”.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2018/10/06/teacher-edward-smith-hall-guilty-child-sex-offences/

    Cartoon Corner (this was a struggle!)

    From Alan Moir.

    Just a few in here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-october-7-2018-20181006-h16b6r.html

  22. Eddy Jokovich‏ @EddyJokovich · 12h12 hours ago

    ABC severely compromised. Reporting Morrison as “a man of the people”, and saying Berijiklian had a “win” in the Opera House racing debacle. Using every opportunity to push the LNP, federally and at the state level. Critical faculties out the window. #auspol #nswpol @abcnews24

  23. Socrates:

    [Aunt Mavis

    “WB: most were ‘bit of a lad’, even me!”

    I think the point was most of us have not lied under oath.]

    I don’t think he’s yet been convicted of perjury.

  24. To follow last week’s long weekend in NSW, ACT, Vic and SA, this weekend is a short one, just 47 hours because of daylight saving. We get the hour back in April.

  25. Morning all. Happy sleep deprivation day. (I agree with Cat.) Sympathy to all the victims of the spike in heart attacks and accidents that usually occurs in the next week. May all the business lobbies that press for daylight saving under the guise of market consistency see their fiirms make losses.
    https://theconversation.com/the-dark-side-of-daylight-saving-time-91958

    I really wish we would end this silly anachronism. If the business shills that run the country read all the reports about lost productivity they would order the government to stop it.

  26. AM

    That doesn’t mean he hasn’t lied under oath. Just that a far right dominated government will give him a free pass on any trial.

  27. Re: Mental Health article from BK

    A high achieving son suicided last year after a rapid (6 month) deterioration in his mental state despite 4 separate placements in hospitals in that time, each judging him as ‘safe’ to come home to our care despite our pleas that we couldn’t guarantee his safety.
    He was just ‘too normal ‘ to warrant the safety and treatment of a hospital. We knew differently but that didn’t matter.

  28. Speaking of the far right, their constant need to invent rationalisatiions for their self serving beliefs has beenn going on a long ttime. Modern attempts may have started with Neitsche. Some pretty obvious parallels with todays politics here.
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/oct/06/exploding-nietzsche-myths-need-dynamiting

    While a letter of Einsteins about to be sold puts religion in its place.
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/may/13/peopleinscience.religion

  29. Rocket Rocket @ #15553 Sunday, October 7th, 2018 – 6:21 am

    Cat

    Yes that awkward time running around trying to work out which things have changed automatically! I have been fooled before, so now have my analogue watch next to bed to be sure.

    .

    I was caught out by my phone’s automatic daylight saving adjustment this morning.

    I’m in Mt Isa at present, and have been getting up in the dark at ~05:30 to run in the relative cool of the gloaming (sunrise is ~06:20 this far west).

    My phone alarm goes off at 05:30 and I groan out of bed to get ready. It seems dark – too dark, but my watch says 05:30 too, so it must just be me. As I’m stumbling out the door 20 min later, I realise that it’s too dark to see the snakes – something’s wrong. Then the penny drops: my watch is synced to my phone, which is still on Damn Southener’s time – it’s still dark o’clock for another hour. Cursing, I set the phone to God’s Time and stumble back to bed.
    Nice 22 deg running subsequently though.

  30. Socrates

    All the little wannabe nazis will be a bit shocked to read the highlighted bit ! 🙂
    .
    Growing up in Bismarck’s reich, there were three things Nietzsche hated: the big state, nationalism and antisemitism. “Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, that is the end of German philosophy,” he wrote, and “I will have all antisemites shot.”

  31. Dog’s Breakfast your experience is terrible, and sadly you are not alone. It sounds as if the problem was not a lack of services, but more that the services didn’t help. Is that what you think?
    It worries me that we keep pouring more resources into psychological services, yet the outcomes are getting worse, and the problem of suicidal thinking becoming more prevalent.
    As a culture we really need a better answer, as your personal tragedy is the kind of thing we all dread.

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