The latest Essential Research poll has Labor’s lead unchanged at 54-46. Beyond that, I’m a bit tied up at this point to discuss the attitudinal results (chief among which is 64% support for a royal commission into banking), but they are as ever summarised in The Guardian, and will be available in complete form when the full report is published later today, together with the primary vote numbers. I believe we should also have YouGov along later today.
UPDATE. YouGov/Fifty Acres: 53-47 to Labor
The fortnightly YouGov/Fifty Acres poll has Labor’s lead out to a new high of 53-47, but this is due to preferences rather than primary votes: Labor and the Coalition are now tied on 32% of the primary vote, after Labor led 34% to 31% last time, with One Nation steady on 11% and the Greens down a point to 10%. There is also a preferred prime minister question recording a 31% tie, with Malcolm Turnbull rated strong by 21%, weak by 41$ and neither by 30%.
The poll records an interestingly high level of support for constitutional change allowing dual citizens to run for office, with 46% in favour and 40% opposed. Also featured are national approval ratings for the Bennelong by-election candidates, both of whom do very well on both name recognition and personal support (40% favourable of John Alexander and 28% unfavourable; 39% and 29% for Kristina Keneally). Forty-six per cent support new religious protection laws in same sex marriage legislation, with 36% opposed; 55% say the government has a responsibility for the safety of asylum seekers on Manus Island, with 36% for the contrary. The poll was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1034.
The full Essential Research report has the Coalition up a point on the primary vote, to 36%, Labor steady on 38%, the Greens steady on 9% and One Nation steady on 8%. Sixty-four per cent of respondents favoured a banking royal commission, with only 12% opposed. Questions on the economy produced a mixed bag: 33% rate its state as good with 24% for poor, but 39% think it headed on the wrong direction compared with 31% for right. A question about economic issues of concern finds the highest ratings for anything to do with prices, particularly energy prices, and lesser but still substantial concern about income tax and interest rates. Forty-nine per cent supported incentives and subsidies to speed the transition from fossil fuels to renewables, 16% leaving it to the market, and 12% who wanted intervention to slow the process.
What a headline!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/tina-arena-lobs-one-at-margaret-court-at-the-newcombe-medal-20171127-gztzzd.html
Player One @ #91 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:07 am
I was surprised that when I checked the information above it proved correct,
and
The comment box retained old information occasionally after a computer restart.
None of the above is a real bother, as I had not noticed the skipping comment part and the second item is easily corrected.
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Barney in Go Dau @ Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:02 am Comment #86
Nothing, it’s the reason given for ‘moving’ it that is the point of contention.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/28/mining-industry-body-retreats-hardline-stance-charities
Long story short.
Between songs Tina Arena suggest Evonne Goolagong- Crawley better represents Tennis than Maragret Court.
Ie Crawley should adorn the stadium not Court.
C@tmomma @ #79 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 9:58 am
They’re lucky they got 2 minutes!
I’m finding this hard to swallow.
guytaur @ #85 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:02 am
Cridible? You obviously don’t live in NSW.
Ides of March @ #105 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:30 am
Perhaps we should replace the Court Court with the Arena Arena!
TPOF
Id love for it to be come Martina Navratilova Court…..
Unfortunately shes not Australian.
Adrian
Sorry but I thought as far as LNP Premiers go she is the most credible Premier.
I do live in NSW and like it or not the polls are clear.
I have not been polled but I am part of the percentage that won’t be voting LNP, but for Labor
CTar1 @ #103 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:27 am
Forget about the Invasion Day controversy, I want to know why the old “Top 40” has quietly been morphed into the “Hottest 100”? I don’t believe this change can be justified by the science 🙂
The ABC’s News station presenters must have been having trouble coming up with things to say this morning.
Trioli kept on wanting to generate comment on whether JJJ moving the “Top 100” broadcast was part of ‘political wars’ or ‘cultural wars’ … FMD.
Political Staffers
Some Gold to be mined here.
srpeatling: Senator Hanson says “ppl have a right to be happy” but “I feel it’s wrong”.
lanesainty: She’s moved onto the Indigenous rights, saying there is “reverse racism” and the ’67 referendum led to more rights for Aboriginal Australians than other Australians.
Here’s what the ABC cut, Labor will vote against amendments on Party lines! 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/nov/28/banking-inquiry-looks-certain-as-nationals-break-ranks-politics-live
BiGD:
Excellent.
Well Guytaur, I don’t want to start an argument that lasts all day, but I’d suggest that the only group among which she has a shred of credibility is among her developer/construction mates.
Sydney is systematically being destroyed for the benefit of a very few.
Soon there will be nothing left to privatise, and not enough people to fill the poorly designed future ghettos, rising everywhere you look in this city.
The polls are more an indication of Labor’s inability to cut through than any endorsement of this Premier or the party she represents.
Adrian
This gives raise to the question, who else does NSW Labor have that capable?
Jodi McKay?
Adrian
I agree on the reality. With a good leader Labor should be making this clear to voters.
I was just pointing to the polling. That tells us like it or not at the moment she has credibility with voters.
That credibility will take a hit being on board with Turnbull.
I am thrilled, yes Henery, thrilled with Mr. Geo. F. Brandis’s circulated Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Bill 2017.
I now understand, I say boy, I understand that Geo. is now working furiously on a bill to fully describe the Strayan model of the well known “Horses Arse” so prevalent particularly among (but not restricted to) the North to Deep north communities.
He is to be commended for this mighty effort.
Is Geo. married 😕 Would he countenance favourably a proposal from a humble petitioner (me) or should I, on reflection, save myself for Cory or Erica or, dare I hope for the affections of (gasp) Andrew ❓
No one can follow her logic (which is probably why Malcolm Roberts thinks she’s brilliant).
Ides of March @ #118 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 10:46 am
She is the only one who seems at all visible, apart from Walt Seecord (?), so I have no idea. A pity that KK has already been used to save the furniture.
I don’t know what it is with Luke Folley, but he’s definitely not out there enough putting forward positive policies. It’s not as though he doesn’t have enough material to work with.
An outline of the amendments being proposed.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/nov/28/banking-inquiry-looks-certain-as-nationals-break-ranks-politics-live
BW @9:48am If they did not have Adani, marriage equality, or a Manus, they would have to invent them.
I’d say something similar applies on the right. Depending on the time and place
they didn’t have boats, terror, recalcitrant radio stations and other ‘culture war’ stuff, they’d have to invent them. To a lerge extent, they have.
Here’s more of Hanson now in the Senate, as referred to by lizzie.
Oh, the confusion!
Child: Muuuuuum, Mum won’t let me watch TV!
or
Child: Dad. Can I go to the beach?
Dad: I don’t know! Go ask your father!
How will they cope? 🙂
The so-called protections sought for religious freedom are really just a shield for prejudice. They should be rejected. What we really need are guarantees of freedom from religion.
Well, my mum and dad wanted to be known as “Tavi” and “Chutti” (their names being Vin and Ruth).
My (Australian born) grandparents wanted to be called “Did” and “Miz”. Never caused me any difficulties at all.
Of course, Pauline knows
Indigenous Australians now have it better than white Australians
That’s why their life expectancy is only 10 years shorter than the rest of Australia!
Simple proposition for Pauline Hanson: visit a remote Aboriginal Community to see how good they’ve got it. Swap with a family who lives there for, say, a week (I think there’s a “Reality TV” show that has families swapping places. Something like that).
Bowenchris: Our Bennelong pre-poll team is relatively experienced… pic.twitter.com/mQP04Ctiga
political_alert: Opposition Leader @billshortenmp will join Deputy Leader @tanya_plibersek, Shadow Treasurer @Bowenchris and Labor candidate for Bennelong @KKeneally for a doorstop at 12pm, Sydney #auspol
I believe that if one inserts all of Ms. Hanson’s utterances into a “Make Sense Generator ©”, available courtesy the retail outlet of”Dodgy Brothers and KayJay Enterprises” – the output will make supreme sense to those to be described by Mr. Geo. Brandis’s proposed “Horses Ass” description bill.
Please try to keep up. 🙏
On a more happy note, middle C, outside my bedroom window is growing strongly and reaching for the sky, a wonderful Gladioli bloom. I treasure this delightful piece of natural growth along with my “Judith Saffigna” lillies just now starting to pod.
Many pardons if I have the spelling or terminology wrong. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/caroline-wilson-steps-down-as-the-ages-chief-football-writer-jake-niall-to-take-over-20171128-gzu4i6.html
Sock it to em Tina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdFSwK6tLn8
“Opposition Leader @billshortenmp will join Deputy Leader @tanya_plibersek, Shadow Treasurer @Bowenchris and Labor candidate for Bennelong @KKeneally for a doorstop at 12pm, Sydney”
I imagine ABC News will go to a basket weaving doco at 12pm.
Tim Costello slamming immigration policy now
KayJay
You shouldn’t be flogging stuff on PB.
Naughty.
political_alert: Attorney-General George Brandis will shortly speak in the Senate to close debate and move the Second Reading of the Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Bill #auspol #MarriageEquality
BevanShields: BREAKING: Barnaby Joyce in heated pub exchange over his private life, claims he is being stalked northerndailyleader.com.au/story/5085849/…
http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/5085849/barnaby-joyce-claims-hes-being-stalked-after-heated-encounter-exclusive/?cs=159
$100 million Bennelong Bus Interchange!
It looks like Malcolm has scored an own goal with this one.
Kristina Keneally was a minister in the Labor State Government that built the Epping to Chatswood Railway and was premier when it was integrated into the rest of the Cityrail network.
Current NSW Premier, Gladys B. was one of the most vocal opponents of the Epping to Chatswood Railway. As Minister for Transport, Gladys commenced the project to convert the line to a low capacity metro. The metro maths used to justify the project compared metro crush loading with double-deck seated only capacity.
When the metro conversion is completed, the Epping to Chatswood line will need to be supplemented with bus services. Gladys has tried to keep this secret for the five years since the downgrade was announced.
Malcolm Turnbull has now let the secret out. When the metro conversion is complete, residents of North Ryde and Macquarie Park will be On The Buses!
Trog Sorrenson @ #138 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 11:36 am
At the risk of perpetuating another day of pointless arguments … how ironic is this! 🙂
I wonder if this confrontation gives the media the ability to report on the going ons in Barnaby’s private life. That and the Don Burke revelations
Trog Sorrenson @ #138 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 11:36 am
I thought I had gotten away with it.
Why just yesterday I received in the inbox of “Mail Washer” a note to advise me that my Westpac account had been frozen and that I orta do something about it (Clever replica addresses enclosed).
and only minutes ago another email telling me that my parcel (non existent) was ready for collection.
So, of course, I thought today was open slather day and tried my luck.
Fortunately, appearing down the page is a photo of the obvious perpetrators, that damn Bill Shorten with two of his most evil aids.
I now rest my case and resume my gardening endeavours.
Please forgive me. 🙏
P1
irony1
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noun, plural ironies.
1.
the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning:
the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
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Literature.
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
(especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
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Socratic irony.
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dramatic irony.
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an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
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the incongruity of this.
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an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
IOM
Its a Fairfax paper and @BevanShield works at one of the major city dailies.
Trog
It it is OK. Kay Jay is donating 5 razoos to William for each unit sold
Yeah but like the rest of the msm press they havent gone there. And I mostly congratulate them for it.
Politicians have affairs all the time. If the French President isnt im pretty sure France would fall apart. Its not really relevant to other matters.
However if its a candidate that makes a strong argument around ‘family values’ then there could be an opening. Its a touch and go situation for the media.
IOM
Highlighting hypocrisy is a valid entry. However if allegations I have seen about chasing a minor into a toilet are true that is also worth investigation by authorities and what conclusions they drew.
Other than that yes our tradition of respecting politicians private lives is good.