The Australian has published the regular quarterly Newspoll breakdowns by state, gender and age cohort, in this case accumulating polling conducted from July through September. Its numbers will be added to BludgerTrack to this week, and the state relativities will become more like Newspoll’s direction as a result. Taking into account that BludgerTrack rates Labor a point higher overall, which the addition of the new numbers won’t change, the distinctions between the two are worth noting: Newspoll has Labor at 52% two-party in New South Wales, compared with BludgerTrack’s 53.0%; in Victoria, it’s 53% versus 54.3%; in Queensland, 54% versus 50.4%; in Western Australia, 53% versus 53.3%; in South Australia, 55% to 58.0%. The other interesting feature of Newspoll’s numbers is that the five capital cities are only recording a 1.1% swing to Labor, compared with 7.7% elsewhere. This has been exacerbated by the latest figures, which reduce Labor by a point in the cities while boosting them by two points elsewhere.
Phoenix…won’t be long before the crowds start taking the kneee….that will be the end for Trump”
I saw my first cheerleader do it today.
phoenixRED @ #249 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 11:54 am
You found that article on PB?
But it’s not argument, it’s just refutation!
I think Trump reckons he can just ride the ‘Taking the knee’ thing out, like he does with all the other criticism of him. The African Americans and their supporters need to stand (knee) firm in their protest.
His nose grows longer every day.
I wasn’t dissing zoid’s point, I was trying to understand it.
A R
phoenixRED @ #249 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 11:54 am
“Increasingly painful to understand the american people want to help and US Gov does not want to help. WE NEED WATER! ”
You found that article on PB?
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OOOOOPS – my sincere apologies A R – I must have been daydreaming
The Correct URL is :
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/trump-whines-about-so-little-appreciation-from-puerto-rico-as-san-juan-mayor-begs-world-for-water/
Player One @ #239 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 12:46 pm
Having the state (Feds or some consortium of States) invest in transmission to support renewables makes a lot of sense. There have been many proposals for a “western ring” of HVAC through SA, western NSW and southwestern Qld, supporting hubs of renewables, linking into the Snowy scheme, improving reliability and security and imposing greater competition on the incumbents in all of those regions.
If these new links are operated commercially, rather than as regulated entities, then the investors can get around AER’s Regulatory Investment Test for Transmission (RIT- T) mess.
On the other hand, it’s a transfer of risk to the state, away from consumers (which includes businesses), but in reality, the state is up for the tab in any case.
Cat
If you are going to comment on my stuff could you try a little harder to make it rational and relevant.
I have said we know little about Pence and he is a crazed god bothering fundy which is a concern. Others here have posted he is a right proper nasty and I see no reason to disagree. He may or may not be worse than Trump. My gut feeling is he would be worse, but quite happy to be convinced by RATIONAL argument that he is better.
I have yet to see any such rational argument.
As for him going down with Trump that is fairyland stuff. Pence was never in the “Russia camp”. That was obvious throughout the campaign and the closest he got was supporting Flynn who in any case has all the hallmarks of an operative of some kind – perhaps gone rogue. His Turkey connections were very odd. Possibly just corrupt, but possibly part of a bigger game.
So just get back to reality. If Trump goes (probably be resignation) the US gets Pence. He may well be better than Trump if so good. He might be worse. If trump goes fairly soon ie within 2 years, Pence will have time to cement his position and win a second ans perhaps a third term, depending on timing.
Should Pence go you get Paul Ryan and after that I think it is someone called Orrin Hatch – know nothing about him. Then it is Rex Tillerson then Steve Mmunchin.
Ya dunna get Hillary or a Democrat. It dunna work like that. Ya dunna get a noo election. get it?
It’s coal or clean air. No contest.
A Washington Post Opinion :
Who’s worse for the nation — Trump or Pence?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/whos-worse-for-the-nation–trump-or-pence/2017/08/07/d6815e12-7ba0-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.3dae992eea76
I am not at all comfortable with abolishing the Limited Merits Review process for energy regulation, on a matter of principle, and despite the fact that if it had not been in place energy prices would be lower in a few jurisdictions.
What do PB’s legal eagles think?
Ford shut down last October. Suburbs around Ford show jump in Centrelink applications. Federal government concludes this means residents are a pack of dole bludgers and set the Fed cops on them…
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/welfare-integrity-taskforce-targets-craigieburn-as-suburbs-dole-bill-doubles/news-story/bcc6278aa1973f323e282c86536245be
Of course, creating new jobs in areas where jobs have been lost (or making it easier for residents to move for work) are not alternatives…
dtt
And it is also not rational to let someone get away with Bad Stuff because their replacement might be worse. On such thinking do dictatorships flourish.
Bob Corker Says Trump’s Recklessness Threatens ‘World War III’
WASHINGTON — Senator Bob Corker, the Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, charged in an interview on Sunday that President Trump was treating his office like “a reality show,” with reckless threats toward other countries that could set the nation “on the path to World War III.”
In an extraordinary rebuke of a president of his own party, Mr. Corker said he was alarmed about a president who acts “like he’s doing ‘The Apprentice’ or something.”
“He concerns me,” Mr. Corker added. “He would have to concern anyone who cares about our nation.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/us/politics/trump-corker.html
daretotread @ #260 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 1:09 pm
As could you.
You are happy to make ridiculous propositions based on nothing more than your “gut feeling”, but then you demand that any refutation of them be based on “rational argument”.
You are about as clever as your hero Trump.
Bill Shorten @billshortenmp
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Walking away from renewable energy means higher power prices for Australians. It’s as simple as that.
zoomster
They are the worst kind of bullies. Where’s Madam Lash, the unemployment specialist?
And Turnbull’s rebuttal will be along the lines of “coal is cheap and produced right here in Australia, everybody knows that #MAGA #GoCoal”.
Hillary Clinton says Kenya’s annulled election was a “project” of a controversial US data firm
Former US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said Kenya’s annulled election was “a project” of Cambridge Analytica, a data company at the center of a growing controversy over the use of personal data to influence both the Brexit vote in the UK and the Donald Trump election in the US.
Clinton, who won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote count, also said she would not rule out questioning the credibility of the US results if new information showed that the Russian-led cyber intrusions were deeper than currently known.
Cambridge Analytica mines both online data and individual psychometric profiles in order to personalize political messaging and communicate with both supporters and undecided voters. The company is partly owned by the Mercer family and most closely linked to Robert Mercer, a hedge fund billionaire who supports conservative causes and candidates.
https://qz.com/1081021/hillary-clinton-says-trump-linked-cambridge-analytica-had-role-in-kenyas-annulled-election/
Player
My comment was directed to cat not you but if the cap fits then wear it.
Player, you seem to go of half cocked much of the time. If I say something is a gut feel then I am quite deliberately indicating that I have little or no evidence as I then confirmed by saying happy to be convinced to another opinion.
When I use words such as possible etc, I mean just that. Possible not certain. It is called English.
Where I do no use such language I generally believe I have evidence for my comment and I believe it to be true.
Can you understand the distinction?
Now I feel sure that the resident narks here will find myriads of times when I veered from this rule, in which case I apologise and do all the mea culpas in advance. BUT make sure that you actually have comprehended what I wrote before criticizing it, so you actually understand any nuances of the English language which I may have included.
Racists http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/dove-apologises-for-ad-criticised-as-racist/9029200?pfmredir=sm&sf120254200=1
ROFLMAO!
dtt demanding posters be ‘rational and relevant’!
I nearly choked on my cheese and tomato sambo!
zoidlord
Truly a case of “WTF were they thinking ?!”
So it’s practically official. The “Liberal” Far Right Wing have won and effective action on climate change the part of the Australian Government is off the table while the Coalition remains in office.
daretotread @ #272 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 1:42 pm
It certainly fits you. Not to mention your hero “Forest Trump”.
“So it’s practically official. The “Liberal” Far Right Wing have won and effective action on climate change the part of the Australian Government is off the table while the Coalition remains in office.”
Yup. Much surprisiment wot?? 🙁
Another racist tirade against Muslims:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/anti-muslim-tirade-hairdresser-and-hate-speech-in-australia/9029746?pfmredir=sm&sf120268599=1&smid=Page:%20ABC%20News-Facebook_Organic&WT.tsrc=Facebook_Organic
Josh Taylor @joshgnosis
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Here’s What You Need To Know About The Dual Citizenship High Court Cases This Week
Also Turnbull seems to everything:
@SkyNewsAust
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Turnbull confident of citizenship decision
@poroti
Indeed!
Steve777
“The “Liberal” Far Right Wing have won and effective action on climate change the part of the Australian Government is off the table while the Coalition remains in office.””
Yep, I also found this shocking and totally unexpected.
Next thing you’ll tell me Elton John is gay.
I’m pretty amazed. I thought they might at least try a gutted CET. Nope. Even that is beyond them. Surely, this is electoral poison. It won’t win them an extra vote. But it will cost them lots of votes in the intelligent centre.
by rejecting the RET the LNP have given both Labor and the Greens a big boost,
The upcoming election will be decided by rational scientific evidence based policies. Labor the more conservative of those options. OR Fantasy evidence does not exist and does not count.
This along with ME have been the big totemic issues. ME on social policy and the RET on economic policy.
bye bye LNP confirming it is a fantasist populous party in the Trump mould. Truly joined at the hip.
Re the Washington post article by Richard Cohen linked by PhRED @1:22PM, Pence described speculation that he might run for President in 2020 if Trump was unable to as “disgraceful and offensive”. It’s been officially denied so it’s on.
The author wasn’t sure which of Trump or Pence is worse. He was thinking that Trump’s incompetence was his saving grace. I tend to agree, as long as someone takes away the nuclear button.
The National Broadband Network rollout has the objective of making high-speed broadband available to 100 per cent of Australian premises.
The twat Fifield & LNP could have supported Labor & cut the Greens / Indepedants out of the equation if they thought it was an issue
Expediency over policy is their moto
antonbruckner11
“the intelligent centre”. A lovely thought, but where are they?
Lizzie
On twitter one or two in the Press Gallery that understand the RET is absolutely needed to meet Paris targets.
sceptic
I found that the most cynical part of Fifield’s piece.
I forgot to mention.
Mr Shorten took the sane sensible politician. He reached out to have a bipartisan approach and was rebuffed.
Voters won’t like a continuation of the energy wars just for political advantage of a few poltiicians.
Player
You know that i have NEVER directed any form of abuse towards you and have generally been supportive.
Clearly you are not a sort of quid pro quo person, so i guess it is open slather now.
I do not make Trump my hero – how could anyone hero worship such a blot upon humanity.
However there is a LOGICAL distinction between thinking someone is the better alternative and actually liking or respecting them.
I preferred Trump for essentially two reasons:
1. Hillary was a Russian war hawk and Trump was not. This is truth not fiction and if you deny it I will just toss you into the category marked ignorant fool and ostrich. In my judgement this made Trump the safer choice given the existing flash points of Syria and Ukraine. If it had been three years previously or I would not have made that judgement, but from the moment that Ukraine flared I did and I still do.
2. Trump was a bit of a wake up call for the US electoral system and power elites in general. They need a kick in the bum and there was a slight chance Trump might provide it. HOWEVER by itself this would never, ever have persuaded me to support a creep like trump, but given 1 above was a useful extra.
3. A trivial third reason was that he dumped the FTA which I hate, but that is for Australian benefit not US
As it happens No 2 have proved totally useless and No 1 is now looking to have made little difference, in which case Clinton may well have been the better choice. I am reserving judgment on this until the Syria issue is settled more clearly. If it is settled without full on war between Russia and the US I think I will back my original judgment. If not then you still get the war as well as all the right wing nasties Trump and his lot dump upon the US people.
I think the whole NK stuff is bluff and bluster and trump is simply implementing the Pentagon agenda ir contain China, which is exactly the same as Hillary’s.
Iran MIGHT be the case where Hillary was better, but that is still unclear.
Guytaur – I don’t think Malcolm has got a hope now. This is too big a sell-out, this is too antediluvian. He’s just offering people the past and they know that’s a dangerous place to go.
Sure, it will work.
A massive recession will do the trick too. I know which one looks more likely if this mob get back in.
OK, I’m an ignorant fool and an ostrich, reckon PB might be an ostrich farm even
Trump campaign’s embrace of Facebook shows company’s growing reach in elections
On Facebook, however, a different story was unfolding for millions of Americans, whose feeds were being saturated with eye-catching ads bolstering Trump.
Out of view of the broader public, the site was serving as a platform for an intense barrage of advertisements tailored to reach Trump’s supporters with maximum impact throughout the debate day and night. By the end of the day, the Trump campaign had run 175,000 variations of ads on Facebook, pushing distinct versions to different users to test which ones worked best.
By Election Day, Trump’s campaign had spent roughly $70 million on Facebook alone — nearly all in the last four months of the election, according to people familiar with the spending.
“If you imagine the country as the haystack, Facebook is the needle finder,” said Brad Parscale, who served as the Trump campaign’s digital director.
With 210 million U.S. users logging in monthly, Facebook offers candidates and their allies the ability to zero in on potential voters who are likely to embrace their messages and make them go viral — identifying them by geography, gender, interests and their behavior across the Internet, including their “likes” for music, food and travel. The company owes its rich trove of data to its users, who turn over details about their personal lives every time they engage with the platform.
The news that Russians used Facebook to try to influence voters showed that people with “no interest in adhering to facts or the truth are able to message to select pockets of the population to elicit an emotional response, and no one knows that it is happening
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaigns-embrace-of-facebook-shows-companys-growing-reach-in-elections/2017/10/08/e5e5f156-a93b-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.363265ae6f37
Player One @ #277 Monday, October 9th, 2017 – 1:58 pm
Oh do tell, P1. As I have dtt Blocked, all her ranting and raving against me falls on deaf ears. : )
Good afternoon all,
The Turnbull government continues to amaze me with the depths of stupidity to which it can descend.
Time again Turnbull and his motley crew have attacked the energy/ climate policies of labor by banging on about the concentration on renewerables. According to Turnbull this focus would the price of electricity up into the stratosphere. According to the MSM Turnbull was a genius to concentrate on the ” hip pocket ” issue of electricity prices and would destroy labor and its policy reliance on renewerables by banging on about the huge cost to Australian households if labor was allowed to implement its policies.
Today, however, in one foul swoop Turnbull and Frydenberg have destroyed their own argument against labor. Apparently, the CET is no longer needed because the cost of renewables is falling so rapidly subsidies are not needed. So, the argument has gone from the huge cost to the consumer of the renewerable energy policies of labor to rewerables being so cheap government assistance is no longer needed.
The simple question to Turnbull is ” if renewerables are decreasing in cost why is the government prepared to support the more expensive option of coal long term and lock in to subsidising coal fire power using taxpayer money when the much cheaper option is right in front of them ? ”
Alas, I doubt that question will be asked.
Malcolm continues to excel !
Cheers.
LU
I agree with A11 the LNP are going back to Abbott policy. Fact free satisfying the deniers and no one else.
Guytaur @2:21PM
“The upcoming election will be decided by rational scientific evidence based policies.”
I don’t share your confidence.