Newspoll has Labor’s lead back at 53-47 after a 54-46 blowout a fortnight ago, with primary votes at 37% for the Coalition (up two), 38% for Labor (steady), 9% for the Greens (steady) and 8% for One Nation (down one). Both Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten are on 34% approval and 54% disapproval, which means one-point drops in both for Turnbull, and no change for Shorten. Oddly, Malcolm Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister has blow out to 46-29, from 43-33. Paywalled report from The Australian here.
Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor
Back to normal from Newspoll after a blowout in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago.
Rex Douglas
JOHN BOY @ #217 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:44 pm
Troll scroll
So anyone who isn’t alt-Shorten is a ‘troll’?
Are YOU outing yourself Rex?
I never named anyone.
Diogs
GetUP has put out a statement about why it has withdrawn said petition.
FYI however I signed it on the basis that the allegation is the doctor was supporting conversion therapy.
I oppose conversion therapy as its torture and doctors advocating it should be deregistered for advocating harm to patients.
PoliticsFairfax: EXCLUSIVE: Government MP Stuart Robert may have been elected in breach of the constitution smh.com.au/federal-politi… #auspol @latikambourke
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-mp-stuart-robert-may-have-been-elected-to-parliament-in-breach-of-the-constitution-20170831-gy8iej.html
Some good news – http://www.afr.com/business/energy/electricity/hydro-tasmania-to-restart-gas-power-station-20170904-gya5j3 …
This will reduce the need for Tasmania to import power generated by burning brown coal in Victoria using the Basslink. This will reduce C02 emissions.
Now, who was it here on PB who said we would not see see gas used for more baseload power generation, and also that we would not see any new gas plants built? Now we have seen both of these things occur – one in SA, and the other in Tasmania.
JOHN BOY @ #254 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 2:37 pm
ooh you got me there, JOHN BOY
guytaur
I’m glad they withdrew the petition. I note the lady denies she supports conversion therapy.
Stuart Robert/ I’d believe anything…
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-mp-stuart-robert-may-have-been-elected-to-parliament-in-breach-of-the-constitution-20170831-gy8iej.html
Labor going full bore on citizenship right now. I think Labor expects the High Court to take a hard line on s44. Then they are going to start dropping dirt and pick off one Lib MP after another. It will be a turkey shoot.
@ P1 – in your excitment, I see you missed that it says ‘restart’ not ‘build’.
Diogs
Such a petition should have no effect if the denial is true.
I now don’t know the truth of the matter but I thought that the petition had truth to it.
Of course Dr’s knowing the mental harm it does to trans kids with the suicide rate involved for trans kids should not be conflating issues to demonise trans kids to oppose marriage equality.
The petition was on the same day as that research was released.
Diogenes @ #250 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 12:35 pm
IIRC the doctor is already in a spot of bother because some of her views conflicted with accepted medical practice and that she faced sanction under the code of professional conduct because of those views?
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Treasurer takes centre stage in #qt to wax lyrical about record & rising Govt debt, record low wages growth, casualisation… #auspol
guytaur @ #254 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 2:40 pm
Stale news, check the date.
Using the Abbott playbook. Right to the timing. Good on ya Labor. Give it back to them.
@bemused
You need to check the date, it said 15 minutes ago fool on the article.
Shorten_Suite: Govt wins vote to keep Barnaby Joyce in his job by ONE vote. Barnaby votes to save himself.
#auspol #qt
guytaur @ #268 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:02 pm
In all the voting on voluntary committee’s I’ve done it’s expected that you exclude yourself from any vote on which you have a conflict of interest…
Guytaur/ Zoid
PoliticsFairfax: EXCLUSIVE: Government MP Stuart Robert may have been elected in breach of the constitution smh.com.au/federal-politi… #auspol @latikambourke
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-mp-stuart-robert-may-have-been-elected-to-parliament-in-breach-of-the-constitution-20170831-gy8iej.html
This is why we need a full and open audit of all mps finances.
tones wife maggie, i understand is a director of a child care company, possibly relates to the $800k redraw tones did, this receives govt money through the rebates, is this in breach? tones needs to come clean on this.
do any of turnbulls cayman island trust have investments that get govt money, we just don’t know!
what do the family trusts of mps invest in, we just don’t know. full and public audit now, all investments at time of nomination for election up to current date. Audit now!
zoidlord @ #267 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 2:58 pm
Curious. You are right. The link included 20170831 which I took to be the date. Sorry.
fitzhunter: We can’t expect people to respect the Parliament if the Parliament isn’t prepared to respect the Constitution #qt #auspol
Straight up and down article on the latest in the Kathy Jackson saga:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/kathy-jackson-abandons-claim-on-barristers-estate/news-story/9825976ce60dc78fa014638e90529d8c?nk=e3701db28f5147e16a6c11420f7a01d7-1504501363
(No paywall)
Voice Endeavour @ #260 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 2:46 pm
I didn’t claim they were building a new gas plant in Tasmania (as they are in SA). The point is that those who claimed that the days of using more gas for baseload generation (as distinct from peaking generation) were over because it was too expensive were clearly wrong on this as well.
I honestly can’t remember which of our solar enthusiasts it was, but they essentially claimed that this wouldn’t happen because building a new gas plant was too expensive. However, as I pointed out at the time, this was unnecessary since there was unused gas generation capacity that could easily be reactivated.
Turns out I was right. Again : )
[Dio
I’m glad they withdrew the petition. I note the lady denies she supports conversion therapy.]
I was not appalled at that also Dio, smacks of the church threat to sack staff who marry same sex partner, church largest employer in oz.
enough of bullying, is shit standover tactics, if you don’t respect the other persons view don’t go to them, but don’t destroy their life because you disagree with them.
Shorten_Suite: Govt wins vote to keep Barnaby Joyce in his job by ONE vote. Barnaby votes to save himself.
And that is one vote that was in doubt in the first place! wtf, i mean wtactualf!!!!!!!!!!
Joyce just sits there looking more and more annoyed as QT goes on … ‘How dare they ask questions …”
that wasn’t hard, was it ?
The Alt Right Birthers won.
Shorten is tabling his documentation.
Shorten.
BOOM!!!
Shorten tables his bit of paper …
Boerwar
Bugger, you beat me!
Bill Shorten is tabling his UK Citizenship Renunciation right now in parliament.
Naff off, Rex Douglas! Go find another subject to troll on.
Diogenes
This campaign to get a No campaigner deregistered as a doctor does the Yes voters no credit. It smacks of McCarthyism.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/same-sex-marriage-petition-against-doctor-pansy-lai-taken-down/8869260
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Actually reading the article shows that nobody who is representing the ME campaign had anything whatever to do with the proposal nor endorsed it. It was an ‘anarcho-socialist’ off on a frolic of his own. Even Change.org took it down after receiving complaints.
Lyle Shelton and co can’t on the one hand disassociate himself and official ‘no’ campaigners from the worst excesses of homophobia on show now while trying to link this sort of cowboy exercise to the official ‘yes’ campaign.
On second thoughts, given how hypocritical they are, they certainly can.
The only smart lib was Corman. He accepted Shorten did not have a case to answer, and did not want him to table documents, because there will now be blow-back on the libs.
Common sense prevailed.
And Bill Shorten has proven that he is the better man because of it.
And immediately the Alt Right claims that ALL MPs and Senators MUST table THEIR documentation.
Who’da thunk it…
C@tmomma @ #273 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 3:09 pm
It is paywalled using your link.
Rashidajourno: Bill Shorten is tabling his renunciation docs. “I suspect the PM knew the claim about me to be false.”
Abbott has been very helpful to the Opposition today.
And immediately Sam Maiden implies that Shorten has only SHOWN his documentation… shades of the Alt Right. The nanosecond Obama tabled HIS documentation, the Alt Right startsed questioning whether it was a fraud.
Are the alt-Shorten supporters now angry with Bill for producing the papers ?
@ P1 – people claimed that no-one would build significant amounts of new gas plant to use for baseload.
You have demonstrated that someone is restarting an existing plant to use during times when demand is greater than supply (i.e. summer).
You could not be further from disproving their point if you tried.
C@t at 3.11
Turnbull really does look like Sergeant Arthur Wilson in that picture!
Shorten tables proof
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Should we now expect lots of bits of paper?
The effect of dropping these prior to the HC will be interesting.
No, Rex, I think Shorten has got a better handle on political strategy than you have — and probably then I have, too.