Newspoll has Labor’s lead back at 53-47 after a 54-46 blowout a fortnight ago, with primary votes at 37% for the Coalition (up two), 38% for Labor (steady), 9% for the Greens (steady) and 8% for One Nation (down one). Both Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten are on 34% approval and 54% disapproval, which means one-point drops in both for Turnbull, and no change for Shorten. Oddly, Malcolm Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister has blow out to 46-29, from 43-33. Paywalled report from The Australian here.
Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor
Back to normal from Newspoll after a blowout in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago.
Marriage according to the Bible.
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Abbotts’ letter dated 2015 from the UK Govt saying he renounced UK Citizenship in 1993 good enough for me.
It’s a long time ago and that neither Abbott or the UK govt still have the original bits of correspondence is not surprising. The UK Citizenship Register records that he did it.
The HC hearing of the SSM plebithing applications will be held on Tuesday and Wednesday this week. A result should be expected promptly, as the mail out is scheduled to commence next Tuesday.
It will be interesting to see if they just knock it out straight away as an unauthorised use of the funds and then forego a decision on the other argument.
CTar1
Abbotts’ letter dated 2015 from the UK Govt saying he renounced UK Citizenship in 1993 good enough for me.
He’ll always be a cryptic foreign citizen!
“The UK Citizenship Register records that he did it.”
Where does that bit come from? I could well imagine that Tones, as PM, was able to bully the Poms into accepting that he filled out the forms (now lost!) in 1993 and amending the register accordingly.
Marriage according to the Bible.
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Wonderful! Thanks for the link BiGD.
CTar1,
Regarding Tony’s letter;
Is it clear?
https://twitter.com/dickybeacholdie/status/889653927339188224/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Findependentaustralia.net%2Fpolitics%2Fpolitics-display%2Ftony-abbotts-letter%2C10547
There’s only one reason why the Lib/Lab cartel refuse an audit. They’re running a protection racket.
How many illegals are occupying parliamentary seats??
Can’t say I often agree with Gotti, but he’s right on this!
Rex Douglas @ #210 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:39 pm
Your constant references to “illegals” has blown your cover. Welcome back Truthie!
I assume another reason Turnbull refuses an audit is that with Bill Shorten as LOTO he remains an outside chance at winning the next election.
bemused @ #212 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:41 pm
I am not Truthi (whoever that is), bemused.
Troll scroll
Rex Douglas @ #214 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:44 pm
Your obsession has finally blown your cover.
JOHN BOY @ #217 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:44 pm
So anyone who isn’t alt-Shorten is a ‘troll’?
ab
The process is a simple one.
Abbott seems to have asked the UK HC here about it. “fill out this form” would have been the answer.
No govt with any sort of ‘records management disposal process’ would keep an unremarkable original form for 25 yrs when it’s existence and result is recorded in the Home Office Register.
bemused @ #218 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 1:46 pm
whatever, bemused 😆
This is the question of the day.
craigthomler: Is it appropriate to delegate someone facing a High Court challenge to their legitimacy as acting Prime Minister of Australia? #auspol
Abbott is just a distraction.
Who would Labor be running a protection racket for? The Greens and Nationals? Senator X?
Labor has the processes in place, and it would seem the Liberals do, too. The majors aren’t interested in investigating the majors because they know there’s nothing there.
BiGD
What’s not ‘clear’ about a letter from the UK Home Office confirming the date of renunciation?
…of course, if Malcolm thinks that we should all be worrying about Korea so much that we shouldn’t be doing anything else, he should stop talking about Shorten’s citizenship.
Oh dear, another scandal:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/lisa-scaffidi-penalty-handed-down-for-travel-breaches/8868828?pfmredir=sm
CTar1,
Did you read the email underneath it?
Ctar1,
CTar1 – You mean, it’s not possible that, when he became PM, Tones worked hard on the poms to get them to accept that, in 1993 he did renounce and they should mark the record accordingly?
BiGD
It’s a response to an unknown question.
These journos have the memory of goldfishes.
CTar1, Question.
After considerable toing and froing, this escalated to the point of litigation in January this year.
So, after Magrathea saw Abbott’s tweeted letter, he forwarded a copy to the Home Office, through his lawyers — to tell them he would discontinue his court action if they could simply confirm Abbott’s letter matched their records. It was already public knowledge, so why not?
On 14 July 2017, Magrathea emailed:
Anthony John Abbott born 4/11/57 in London and renounced his British citizenship. Could I please request a copy of the form RN he submitted and a copy of the receipt for fee payment please.
The matter is no longer covered by your privacy rules because he has tweeted the information about his renunciation to the world. The form RN and receipt is to confirm the document he showed the world is legitimate.
On 24 July 2017, the Home Office replied to Magrathea, thanking him for his email of 14 July 2017 and advising him that they could
‘… confirm that the Home Office does not hold this information.’
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbotts-letter,10547
Didn’t LNP not so long ago tried to frame Shorten for Dual Citizenship?
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/abbott-puts-heat-on-shorten-to-settle-citizenship-questions/8869444?pfmredir=sm
BiGD / ab
FMD … Do you have a receipt from 25 years ago and a form associated with it still?
Enough ‘conspiracy’ for me for the day.
Abbott flapping his bit of paper is about making trouble for the Govt/Turnbull.
Lizzie:
Only when it suits their agenda.
The AM team, for example, are very good at remembering the oh so important Latham handshake.
adrian
True.
@ Ctar1 – if that receipt was the only thing that kept me from getting fired, and I had enemies who wanted me to get fired, then I would have the original, plus copies of it at another physical location (parents house), on at least 3 storage media (computer HD, phone HD and USB stick), as well as in some clouds (my email account, family member’s email, dropbox).
Hell, I go nearly to that level of backup for particularly important photos and delicious recipes. Anyone who wouldn’t do that for a form renouncing their citizenship, which was required for their job is an idiot.
Edit: Actually, I have never really had enemies. My above protections are for things I really don’t want to have accidentally lost, and probably wouldn’t be sufficient to protect against someone maliciously destroying them all and then getting me fired. I would go to an internet cafe, create an email address with no links to myself then I never use for anything else, and scan it to that email address.
SwannyQLD: What do Baaaaarnaby and Pavlova have in common? Both are fruity Kiwis who really shouldn’t be Acting PM this week #auspol
sspencer_63: Turnbull’s terrible judgment again on show. Refuses to allow statements on Korea, then attacks ALP for not asking question on Korea #QT
sspencer_63: Next time Turnbull accuses people of playing politics on Korea, remember this. Appalling judgment, and behaviour. Again. twitter.com/Shorten_Suite/…
Ctar1 – Actually, if I was renouncing my citizenship of a country, I very much doubt I would throw out any of the paper work, and I’m pretty sloppy.
Sorry
The tweet the link was to
Shorten_Suite: The Opposition asked the PM’s office to consider statement on indulgence on Nth Korea. They accepted, then withdrew just before #qt
#auspol
I was watching Mesma’s face when Mal stood to answer a Q from Shorten. She has a very good face for contempt.
joshgnosis: “We don’t want to get into debate about legal opinion,” Turnbull says, assuming the barrister pose he loves. #qt
sspencer_63: Tony Abbott writes the script for Turnbull on citizenship, and Turnbull follows. #QT
Sudmalis looking uncomfortable behind Turnbull while the renunciation questions go on.
Turnbull asks “what has he got to hide?”
I ask, what have THEY got to hide ??
If the High Court takes a hard line on s44, will Shorten then suggest to Malcolm an independent audit of all MPs???? Surely, the Libs would have more to lose. Certainly, if the HC does take a hard line, it will be squeaky-bum time for a lot of govt MPs in the gun.
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FYI @billshortenmp has documents. They lie at Labor HQ in Canberra. Why won’t he release? Precedent. Not clear others in order @SkyNewsAust
Katter asks something about human sacrifices to crocs
Precedent is a good enough reason for me.
Naff off, Rex!
This campaign to get a No campaigner deregistered as a doctor does the Yes voters no credit. It smacks of McCarthyism.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/same-sex-marriage-petition-against-doctor-pansy-lai-taken-down/8869260