Nothing doing from Newspoll this week, but The Guardian reports Essential Research is back to showing Labor with a two-party lead of 53-47, after four weeks at 52-48. A slip of the keyboard at The Guardian appears to have deprived us with a primary vote figure for Labor, which was at 36% last week, but we are told that the Coalition is down one to 38%, the Greens are up one to 11%, One Nation is steady on 7% and the Nick Xenophon Team is steady on 3%. The full report should be on the Essential Research website later today. (UPDATE: Full report here; Labor primary vote turned out to be unchanged on 36%.) Also featured:
• Forty-three per cent of respondents felt Tony Abbott should resign from parliament, compared with only 18% who wanted him in the ministry and 14% who felt he should remain on the back bench.
• Support for same sex marriage rated three points higher than when the question was last asked a month ago, at 63%, with opposition down a point to 25%. Fifty-nine per cent wanted the matter to be determined by a plebiscite compared with 29% who favoured it being determined by parliament, compared with 61% and 27% in the previous poll.
• On the question of housing affordability, 74% supported limitations on foreign buyers, 56% allowing to downsize their homes to contribute to their superannuation, 44% bans on interest-only loans for property investors, 44% allowing young buyers to access their superannuation, and 43% the removal of negative gearing. Sixty-six per cent consider housing unaffordable in their area for someone on an average income, versus 25% for affordable, and 73% believed it had become less affordable over the past few years.
Elsewhere:
• I had a paywalled article in Crikey yesterday on YouGov’s arrival on the local scene, and the state of the Australian polling industry in general.
• The Australia Institute has taken a stab at predicting the complexion of the Senate after the next election, based on polling trends. Its projection for a normal half-Senate election suggests nothing much would change.
• The Australian Electoral Commission has published information-packed research papers on the rate and demographics of voter turnout, informal voting, and the impact of the new Senate system with respect to above and below the line voting rates and the number of boxes filled out.
• Sarah Vogler of the Courier-Mail reports Queensland’s Liberal National Party have been conducting polling of the marginal inner Brisbane seat of Maiwar, created in the redistribution from abolished Indooroopilly and Mount Coot-tha, to gauge how badly they would be damaged in such areas by a preference deal with One Nation. No results are provided, but an unnamed LNP source calls the poll a “dumb move”, which has had the effect of “unnecessarily telegraphing the party’s intentions”.
Section 3 . . .
The Washington Post reports on the Trump-Putin meeting.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/vladimir-putin-denies-election-hacking-to-donald-trump-rex-tillerson-says-20170707-gx77wf.html
Some experts reckon the High Court challenge on David Gillespie’s eligibility to be elected into parliament may well succeed.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-could-win-high-court-bid-to-unseat-minister-say-experts-20170707-gx6xlv.html
The Green Institute says that Elon Musk’s agreement to build the world’s largest battery for South Australia isn’t just an extraordinary technological breakthrough that signs coal’s death warrant. It’s potentially a game changer in the way we do politics, reinserting the importance of basic reality into a debate which has been bereft of it for too long.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/elon-musks-big-battery-brings-reality-crashing-into-a-post-truth-world
Five men have nominated to fill the West Australian Senate vacancy, including two former state MPs, official nomination papers leaked to Fairfax Media reveal. Not a woman insight.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/not-a-woman-in-sight-leaked-nomination-papers-reveal-five-male-nominees-to-fill-liberal-senate-role-20170707-gx769l.html
Peter FitzSimons wonders where Steve Smith is when we need him.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/fitz-files-20170707-gx6j57.html
The SMH editorial wants the cricket battle to be back on the pitch.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/the-cricket-battle-needs-to-be-back-on-the-pitch-20170706-gx693q.html
The drug industry is spending $72 million a year “educating” doctors, with one company splashing $750,000 on a weekend conference. Why?
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/drug-companies-spent-287-million-in-four-years-on-educational-events-for-doctors-20170706-gx688a.html
South Australia will attempt to ease pressure on its crisis-prone electricity grid with a world-leading battery station more than three times the size of its nearest rival, to be built by billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk. How long before Abbott says the batteries are ugly?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/massive-tesla-battery-should-reduce-power-prices-but-wont-prevent-crippling-sa-blackouts-say-experts-20170707-gx6sg3.html
Crispin Hull says we should have a good look at the NZ political system to get over our own dysfunction. More MP’s is the answer.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/more-mps-could-help-solve-the-current-political-dysfunction-in-australia-20170706-gx5xp7.html
Section 4 . . .
Jack Waterford has different idea – uncouple Senate elections from the HoR’s.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-case-for-an-outofsync-senate-election-20170707-gx6kn2.html
Australia’s broadband network is a dog’s dinner that disappoints many customers.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/07/australian-internet-slow-and-plagued-by-disconnections-survey-finds
A taskforce has come up with a range of interesting recommendations to rein in the burgeoning cash economy. Google.
/business/banking-and-finance/biometric-business-passports-needed-to-beat-black-economy-says-taskforce-20170706-gx68wm
The Grenfell Tower fire inquiry hopes to hold its first public hearings into the cause of the disaster in September as it prepares to seize council planning archives. But there are still calls for wider terms of reference.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/07/grenfell-tower-inquiry-aims-for-first-public-hearings-in-september
Shame causes many actions. Like this attempt.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/greenhouse-gas-pollution-up-data-released-after-foi-struggle-reveal-20170707-gx6qy8.html
Tim Costello has his say on the G20 agenda.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/with-a-lion-behind-and-the-sea-in-front-g20-leaders-head-to-hamburg-20170706-gx60wz.html
Trump is the bull in the G20 China shop.
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/07/07/trump-bull-in-g20-china-shop/
What can Australia expect from the summit?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-trump-and-turbulence-what-australia-can-expect-from-the-g20-20170707-gx6hl4.html
Phil Coorey writes that at the G20 there is a palpable sense that the influence of the US has diminished. Google.
news/politics/at-the-g20-a-palpable-sense-that-us-influence-has-diminished-20170706-gx6b34
On this very point Jonathan Freedland writes that it’s little wonder that Trump is Putin’s favourite – he’s making America weak again.
Section 5 . . .
On this very point Jonathan Freedland writes that it’s little wonder that Trump is Putin’s favourite – he’s making America weak again.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/trump-putin-america-soft-power-g20-summit
Now Christine Milne gets into the act with the Greens’ problems.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/08/nsw-greens-exercising-veto-powers-over-national-party-says-christine-milne
What is Elizabeth Farrelly trying to say here?
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/child-sex-abuse-is-no-reason-to-reject-religion-but-to-raze-church-hierarchies-20170706-gx6aw8.html
Pontificating Pal Kelly goes in even stronger in defence of Christianity, the saviour of all things. Google.
/news/inquirer/blessed-be-the-egoistic-individuals/news-story/49de39a232f038a03100cb967a4f4967
Martin McKenzie-Murray,as someone who has reported on all manner of child abuse, can’t abide sophistic deflections. The defences of the Catholic Church prefer the invocation of culture wars to the acceptance of facts. And those facts – which are entirely separate to the charges against George Pell – are clear, damning and insist upon atonement. He has a good look at those defending Pell.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2017/07/08/the-people-defending-cardinal-george-pell/14994360004893
Martin Hirst has read the book “Cardinal” and has this to say.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/cardinal-the-story-of-abuse-cover-up-and-arrogance-in-the-catholic-church,10480
The bikies feud has spilled over into the ACT.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/act-policings-bikie-taskforce-investigating-car-fires-shots-fired-in-kambah-20170707-gx6nsv.html
Section 6 . . . Cartoon Corner
Alan Moir turns the tables on Trump.
Here’s yesterday’s ripper form Alan Moir. So, so good!
Broelman gives us Tomic the Tank Engine.
Mark Knight gets more to the point with Tomic.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/f27de6c73e09817770a792d6b0d1e6c2?width=1024
Reg Leahy at the G20.
David Rowe cruels Trump yet again!
Ron Tandberg with an alternative to nuclear war.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
Pat Clement with Turnbull’s coaching session in preparation for the G20.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d3b83b5d4dd28f591562c046a9902787
I don’t think it makes sense for the Government to subsidize personal batteries on grid connected homes on the basis given. If you wanted to maximize the ability to use storage as pseudo-baseload it makes more sense to store power pumped back into the grid, since that allows more flexible dispatch based on need.
The benefits for personal storage would be more for the owner by eg maximizing the profit of selling excess power / minimising loss by avoiding drawing from the grid during peak. The primary grid benefit would be the rarer case of supply shortages where it allows greater option in brownouts and greater flexibility in power restoration for outages (assuming the system can function when off grid).
You’d need a far more peer to peer energy distribution model than currently exists for personal storage to be generally beneficial to the public.
Actually given the potential for smart dispatch from local storage and peer to peer exchange , the last thing you want is people to go off grid before then.
Good Morning Bludgers 🙂
Interesting paragraph in the Laurie Oakes article:
My spidey senses were correct. Sukkar is not to be trusted. He’s on the make and would likely give Brutus a run for his money should the opportunity arise.
Yes I posted about this last week, although back then it was only 4 men from memory. It’s unbelievable that knowing the party has woman problems more effort isn’t made to encourage more women to nominate.
Nice to see Theresa May and Brian Trumble bonding at the G20 over the deep unpopularity and inevitable electoral destruction of the parties they lead. They must be the two loneliest people in the world.
I’m glad they’ve each finally found a friend.
Morning all. Thanks BK. That story by Paul Kelly about the dangers of egoism and defending the catholic church is laughable. Does anyone think that George Pell, cardinal living in a vatican mansion, has no egoism? Or Abbott?? ROTFL.
c@tmomma @ #1256 Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 8:11 am
BiGD,
😉
c@tmomma @ #1256 Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 8:11 am
How can Malcolm demand factional leaders do anything, when according to him they do not exist. 🙂
The COALition’s pathetic attempts to block action on climate change descend to all areas of government. In transport planning you can calculate the impact of a road project in terms of extra driving and greenhouse gases when you model the demand. But we have no carbon price now. So guess which country has one of the lowest valuations on greenhouse gases calculation guidelines in the OECD? Yep, we do. It helps all these dubious freeway projects the Libs are promoting everywhere scrape over the line and get a benefit cost ration above one, justifying federal funding. Its easy when you do not properly count the losses they cause.
Five men have nominated to fill the West Australian Senate vacancy, including two former state MPs, official nomination papers leaked to Fairfax Media reveal. Not a woman insight.
No Woman insight either.
‘They must be the two loneliest people in the world.’
Don’t know about May, but Trumble has his massive ego to keep him company, so he’ll never be alone.
The person most missing in action in the present cricket dispute is Mark Taylor, former Australian captain, who now has his far arse on the Board. Come on Mark, tell us what your position is.
c@tmomma @ #1265 Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 8:35 am
A Freudian slip no less!
BiGD,
How can Malcolm demand factional leaders do anything, when according to him they do not exist. 🙂
I was also thinking, how can Malcolm Turnbull demand the Conservatives stop their undermining, when he has made a Faustian pact with them? He’s a puppet on a string, a mere plaything, dangled in front of the nation as they bide their time until they jettison him overboard like political flotsam and jetsom and replace him with…maybe another ‘Moderate’ whose overweening ambition also compels him (because it will always be a ‘Him’), to make a similar deal. Or maybe Toned Abs might think he can do the job if he practices putting on his ‘Moderate’ face for the electorate? However, today’s Oakes’ column might just be the kiss of death. It was savage!
On the other hand, Abbott probably has visions of being the next, ‘Lazarus with a Triple Bypass’ and believes in his God-given right and destiny to lead the nation again. Or the Opposition. 🙂
Idiot shot in Melbourne a few hours ago after pulling a gun on police officers.
http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/police-shoot-man-woman-at-melbourne-club/news-story/7edfa8436791e3de6b00fb0ebefe79f8
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-08/wa-nationals-back-miners-calls-for-gst-quarantine/8690420
Sorry, that link was rubbish, a bit more detail on the story here:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-shoot-man-and-woman-in-king-street-nightclub-in-melbourne-20170707-gx77yv.html
Apparently the victim was in costume and the gun was probably a fake.
Exactly. That he is constantly being undermined by them and having to kowtow to them just shows what little authority he has in the partyroom anyway. He has no authority to demand they pull their heads in.
Diogenes
Friday, July 7, 2017 at 11:11 pm
Evidently the 100MW battery will only power 13000 homes for 24 hours in a blackout. That’s hardly a game-changer.
And to quote that figure is to miss the whole point. When it comes to system stability it is what it can do in seconds that matters. When it comes to getting extra generation capacity online we are talking minutes not 24 hours.
Thanks BK – a sterling effort as usual.
Interesting to look at The Australian – not much about the Tesla battery -has been relegated to the backblocks below the fold. But we do have a puff piece on the increase in power disconnections.
LOL
LOL again.
What we need is the raw intelligence of Malcolm Roberts on the job:
Nothing remotely factual. Nothing.
e.g.
– the privatisation and gold plating of the grid leading to huge increases in transmission charges
– lack of policy certainty leading to near zero investment in new gas ( a good thing in my view)
– rorting of the 30 minute rule by generators
– failure by both Labor and Liberal governments in managing gas exports
– rorting of the retail markup by privatised gentailers.
Google
Australian residential power disconnections have risen by as much as 140 per cent in six years.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/08/free-market-promise-at-an-impasse-and-new-battlelines-being-drawn
Frednk
Exactly. The 100 MW battery can hold the fort for an hour or so, and that will cover a lot of contingencies. Of course it won’t help if something happens to the transmission line between Jamestown or Adelaide, and it won’t cover long outages if gas generation backup fails to come on line, but it is a great first step. It will also prove the value of batteries in providing ancillary services, which will assist the roll-out of more and more batteries SA and Australia wide.
The beauty in the whole thing is that Coalition- and a bit of Labor with the gas export thing – gross mismanagement of energy policy leading to price blowouts, has set the scene for a rapid transition to renewables and battery storage, on both sides of the meter.
Trog Sorrenson
Does The Australian realise that its reputation will not be enhanced by quoting these dingbats? Or perhaps their supporters are now the only readers!!
Morning all
BK
Thanks for today’s dawn patrol!
What is ‘Senator’ Hanson’s solution to all the alcoholics, gambling addicts and junkies who have their electricity disconnected due to failure to pay their bills? Because they make up the vast majority of those who suffer that fate. Not little old grannies shivering by candlelight, that’s for freaking sure! Free drugs, alcohol and an unlimited tab at the club!?! Just so they can pay their bills? And how does usurious levels of rent factor into this inability to pay the electricity bill situation?
Getting rid of the RET and ‘binning the Finkel Review’ (oh such emotive colloquial use of the language to trivialise it), neither of those things will make one iota of difference to these people’s behaviour. Anyway, I’d bet London to a brick that there would be more than 1 or 2 pensioners who have lost their pension down the club and that’s why they can’t pay their darn electricity bills!
However, isn’t it interesting that these Fossil Fool troglodytes, like Hanson, Roberts and her enabler, Ashby, always try and tug at the heartstrings in order to push their grubby agenda.
Yeah, nah, guys. Too obvious. Piss off.
Interestingly the DT dead tree front page has a large image of Musk titled ION MAN (looking like comic book superhero Iron Man).
The sub-heading is also interesting: “$22B Playboy Builds World’s Biggest Battery to Solve Australia’s energy Crisis”. Not SA’s energy crisis? What would Frydenberg say?
Today’s PvO:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/peter-costello-greatest-successor-the-liberals-never-had/news-story/818498f9426db0c8dbfcc70fde9432ab
Trog
I will probable disconnect the farm from the network in the next couple of years; but I don’t agree with regard batteries behind the meter. They have a limited life and they have to be maintained. The nice thing about the network is someone else maintains it. Time will tell.
This shooting is going to turn into a big drama once the full-story comes out. All but confirmed the gun was a prop / part of a costume by witnesses now. We can expect lot’s of debate about whether the polices behaviour was justified. Personally I still think the guys an idiot and people should not be drunkenly playing with prop guns in nightclubs in this day and age, especially in light of recent events in Melbourne and abroad. Even the guys who dress up as these characters at comic con have it drilled into them not to carry the things around outside of the convention centre and communicate with police beforehand about the fact that people will be carrying prop weapons. This was straight up stupidity on this guys behalf.
C@t
I have taken to watching A Current affair lately. It is as crap as always. And you can bet your bottom dollar that on a regular basis they have a segment on Pauline Hanson. This past week they had her at Fish and Chip shop imparting her wisdom to help the current owners make money. Enough said…………
Frednk
Understand why you would not want batteries straightaway. I also have a small farm and my power bill is off the planet – equivalent to half a mortgage. First step, as soon as I can afford it, is to install at least 10 KW solar panels in the paddock and move as much demand as possible to daytime.
Even though the power bill is crippling, I rejoice in the fact that the fossil fuel incumbents and their lackies are about to go out of business.
Adam Schiff Devastates Trump’s Version Of The Putin Meeting With A Point By Point Destruction
House Intel Committee ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff didn’t hold back on his skepticism as he destroyed all of the major points in the White House’s version of Trump’s meeting with Putin.
The Secretary of State wants the American people to believe that the same president who refused to say that Russia hacked the election when asked by the press yesterday, now is Mr. Tough Guy.
This White House lies to the American people on a daily basis, and since they didn’t allow notes to be taken at the meeting, there is no reason to believe that they are telling the truth about the Putin meeting.
Adam Schiff is a former prosecutor who can spot BS a mile away. He isn’t buying the Trump White House’s description of the meeting and neither should you.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/07/adam-schiff-buying-white-house-version-trump.html
i wonder if the US citizenry are content to see Trump confirm he is a puppet of Putin
Elaugaufein et al
I was reading an article saying if we really wanted a stable, cheap power supply, the aim should be for all of us to go “off the grid” presumably using solar combined with storage like the lithium battery.
BTW the media keep saying it’s the largest battery in the world but Chinese have a vanadium flow battery which is bigger
Trog
You make some good points about the coverage of SA’s gamechanging energy announcement. Assuming the mad uncle brigade are too scientifically illiterate to come up with their own criticisms, here are a few suggestions:
1. Bird strikes hitting the wind turbines will cause micro-fluctuations in the power generation and destabilise the grid.
2. Coriolis effects mean that the wind power generated in the SA turbines (southern hemisphere) will be incompatible with storage in the Tesla batteries made in the northern hemisphere.
3. Heat from so many battries in close proximity will cause a fire. The resulting explosion will devastate the SA mid north.
4. Competition from the battery power will reduce Orogin and AGL profits, leading to mass unemployment in the Adelaide cbd.
PhoenixRed, Vic:
No Real Time for the month of July – the show is taking a break for the summer.
PhoenixRed
The fact that Trump met with Putin for over 2 hours is instructive.
Grimace @ #1224 Friday, July 7, 2017 at 11:18 pm
Tks, Grimace. Good post.
Much of the general discussion on the ‘electricity price’ is like taking the total of some ones last bill from AGL and comparing it with how much a salesman told them it would cost to put a few solar panels on their garage roof.
I think most standalone houses in a town or city location will stay connected to the Grid. If the householder has installed enough Solar to sustain them even 95% of the time they will still want Grid connection as backup.
And they will need to pay for that.
Clear separation of the cost of the energy supplied and the costs of getting it to the home is needed.
Fess
Thanks for reminder. Bill Maher said he needed to recharge his batteries. The Trump imbroglio has drained him!!
Victoria:
The Trump imbroglio has drained me and I’m not even living in the US where you see it on a daily basis!
Good Morning
I see the right is still in shock. No counter narrative to the reality that Labor in South Australia has sliced and diced the last ten years of LNP narrative that Labor in pursuing climate change policy has caused power prices to rise.
The problem for the Right is that Elon Musk is the personification of their neo liberal dream. A private citizen using his fortune to make a difference. The bad luck for them is that Elon Musk is for the future and has no qualms about the reality that the era of fossil fuels is drawing to a close.
This is the dilemma for the right. Reality is biting and even their own beloved model of neo liberalism entrepreneur is embracing collective action by the community even as he uses his fortune to advance humanity.
What a pity the neo liberal model entrepreneur sees the benefit of the social in community. You also see this with silicon valley giants like Apple and Google. Their whole business model is the social in community.
This is why neo liberalism is dead. The technologies of the future depend on the social to work.
Socrates
5. Worldwide shortage of lithium leading to people with bipolar becoming manic
‘Abbott was a disappointment to conservatives as prime minister and now seeks to rectify that by hardening up his conservative credentials.’
I’m struggling to understand this. Abbott tried to institute a conservative agenda, and the Australian people – and thus the Senate, and his own party – rejected it. Abbott hasn’t changed, he’s still spruiking now what he spruiked then.
‘I utterly reject economic criticisms that Howard baked in unsustainable middle-class welfare via family tax benefits. They were affordable then but not now. Any modern government worth its salt would win the argument to remove them now that the fiscal going is tough. That’s not Howard’s failure.’
Dear PvO, there is a difference between affordable and sensible. I might be able to afford an ocean going yacht, but it also might be more sensible for me to invest the money in something which will be of greater benefit in the long term, rather than waiting until a crisis hits and then trying to sell the yacht.
‘Where Howard did fail, which brings us back to the problems Liberals have had since his departure, is via a lack of succession planning. He honestly believed Costello was young enough, and ambitious enough, to continue in politics on the opposition benches as leader, despite missing out on the prime ministership via an orderly handover. ‘
We all ‘honestly believe’ things when we want to believe them. It was blindingly obvious to anyone in the lead up to the 2007 election that Howard should step down and hand the job to Costello. He didn’t because he didn’t want to.
‘Instead, Costello put lifestyle, family and financial security first, departing politics soon after the 2007 defeat’
This is a polite way of saying Costello couldn’t be arsed. And Costello couldn’t be arsed because he always wanted to be given things, on the basis that he deserved them. He was never a fighter, and thus would never have made a half competent Opposition leader.
(It turns out PvO and I are largely in agreement, particularly when he admits he might be viewing Costello through rose coloured glasses…)
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/peter-costello-greatest-successor-the-liberals-never-had/news-story/818498f9426db0c8dbfcc70fde9432ab
On the disconnection issue. ABC News Radio today has been reporting record levels of disconnection from the grid in unregulated markets. The glaring exception is the ACT where regulation has seen connection maintained an even rising slightly
Dio
There has been a failure (one of many) in Australia to install grid stabilising technologies in new energy sources here. But they are possible. See this article.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/neoen-aims-1gw-wind-solar-2020-hornsdale-3-financing-54773/
As for costs, a large collective battery connected to the grid will be cheaper than a battery storage in every home. The former might cost $100 million, $200 per SA household. A battery pack in every home would cost several thousand $ per home.