Essential Research records incremental movement away from the Coalition on its fortnightly rolling average, on which the Coalition and Labor are now both on 37% on the primary vote with the former down one on last week, although two-party preferred is unchanged at 53-47. The Greens are up a point to 11%, One Nation is steady at 6% and the Nick Xenophon Team is steady at 3%. Other findings:
• Contra a recent result from Morgan, Malcolm Turnbull retains the narrowest of leads over Julie Bishop as preferred Liberal leader, with Turnbull down nine since immediately after the election to 21%, Bishop up four to 20% and Tony Abbott up two to 11%. The same question for Labor finds Bill Shorten’s election campaign spike disappearing – he’s down ten to 17%, with Tanya Plibersek up two to 14% and Anthony Albanese up one to 12%.
• Forty-four per cent would sooner see the words “humiliate or intimidate” than “offend or insult” in section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, but only 17% think Australia’s racial discrimination laws too strict, against 26% for too weak and 40% for about right.
• There is strong support for a range of campaign finance reforms, including immediate disclosure, $5000 donations caps, and bans on foreign donations and donations by companies and unions. However, most oppose banning donations and having only public funding for party spending.
• Thirty-three per cent said they took more interest in the American election than the Australian, compared with 22% for vice-versa and 38% for the same amount.
• Sixty-three per cent say institutions involved in child sex abuse claims should pay compensation, 14% say the government should do so, and 7% say neither.
We’ve had challenging conditions here today with catastrophic fire conditions and fires burning across the region. We had 41 degrees at lunchtime (unheard of for this way), but thankfully a comfortable 23 now, and rain forecast overnight which will assist with those fires.
‘Why doesn’t Frydenberg have a quiet word in Baird’s ear and explain that clearing native vegetation is counter-productive in the fight against global warming?’
Because Frydenburg doesn’t give a stuff about global warming?
But ‘Fess, there’s no such thing as Climate Change and Global Warming! Malcolm Roberts says so! : )
Why doesn’t Frydenberg have a quiet word in Baird’s ear and explain that clearing native vegetation is counter-productive in the fight against global warming?’
Nor Baird probably. Liberals are happy to act on global warming provided it doesn’t cost their backers and bankrollers anything or in any way interfere with them making money. Hence Direct Inaction.
…give a stuff about Global Warming that is.
C@t:
2016 is apparently going to the hottest year on record. It’s getting harder and harder to keep insisting that the earth isn’t warming.
Trump side-effect #67: Racist things aren’t actually racist anymore, they’re just perceived that way. Clearly the observer has perceived wrongly, and the racist statement wasn’t really racist.
Steve Bannon, Trump’s alt right strategist, has a colourful turn of phrase
“But critics of Mr. Bannon continued to raise questions about his background and his tenure as the chairman of Breitbart News. A 2011 radio interview surfaced in which Mr. Bannon praised Ann Coulter, Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin by saying they were not “a bunch of dykes that came from the Seven Sisters schools up in New England.”
“That drives the left insane,” he added, “and that’s why they hate these women.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/donald-trump-presidency.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
antonbruckner11 @ #174 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 7:18 pm
I don’t think he cares much. He has done the job he was hired to do – i.e. lining the pockets of his libspiv mates. Now I think he is bored and just wants out.
PO – Probably right. I just remember how people got sucked in by his Bambi bullshit and I keep telling them he was a creep. Too late now.
Malcolm’s faux outrage over Shorten daring to criticise the way 457 visa are being spread about like confetti: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foreign-workers-row-malcolm-turnbull-hits-out-at-bill-shortens-rank-opportunism-20161115-gspyiw.html
Probably worried that Shorten’s ‘rank opportunism’ will ‘trump’ his.
But Labor has never accused 457 visa holders of taking Australian jobs. Rather, some Australian employers want to use them to bypass the Australian labour market and work relations system. Nor has Labor issued any statements accusing 457 visa holders of bludging on the dole, carrying dread diseases or being criminals who need to be kept under police surveillance.
Confessions
The three moo cows have been rescued.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11747923
Five Steve Bannon Quotes That Should Disqualify Him As Trump’s Chief Strategist
https://www.good.is/articles/five-scary-steve-bannon-quotes-alt-right
What a class act he is. Not.
Serious barrel scraping was obviously in place the day the Republicans unearthed this guy.
Poroti:
Yes I saw that earlier today on Facebook but am yet to get the low down on exactly how they were rescued.
People from the left have expressed concern about the VP. He must be bad when even the people at The American Conservative are worried about him. Bring on the second coming nutjobs-R-Us
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-and-the-neoconservatives/
confessions
Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:23 pm
Poroti:
Yes I saw that earlier today on Facebook but am yet to get the low down on exactly how they were rescued.
They dug a path for them, the Fremantle dodger was caught also.
For Facebook users out there. Could be interesting.
Was that the cow in the ocean? If so then I saw that on the news last night.
It’s definitely been a cow few days. Vera would’ve loved it. 🙁
This article contains some links to a few of the crazy stories on Breitbart ‘news’. If you came across the site by accident, you would surely think it was a satirical site.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election/donald-trumps-choice-of-antisemite-stephen-bannon-for-strategist-brings-wave-of-outrage-20161114-gspewm.html
Bill Shorten has walked on water; Rex, poor performance, he got his shoes wet.
Confessions
It certainly was a day of the Vera 🙂 + 🙁
The news site’s founder however was cut from the same cloth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart#Breitbart.com
I can remember back in the day that Andrew Breitbart was frequently cited approvingly by the claque of News ltd reactionary commentators on a regular basis.
7 News Sydney
7 News Sydney – Verified account @7NewsSydney
The approval of James Packer’s billion dollar plus casino at Barangaroo is being contested in court. #7News http://snpy.tv/2eZUxb4
Shorten going after 457’s should be a real bipartisan vote winner. At least in my age demographic. It’s mostly my conservative leaning acquaintances that I have heard complaining about them.
I bet John Howard is quietly impressed by Bill Shorten’s political antennae.
libertarian unionist @ #55 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Mt Barney brings back memories. Peasant’s ridge, and up Eagle’s ridge once when we could only find very dodgy water, and were glad of it.
Blanket Criticism
THAT is the golden opportunity for left leaning parties to grasp. When it comes down to it much of the appeal of Sanders and Trump came down to a rejection of the last 30 years of neoliberal economics. Job security down the gurgler and all benefits of the sacrifices the “ordinary workers” have gone to the 0.01% . When it comes down to it a secure home over your head and job security will win every time. Left or right,
darc @ #73 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 4:59 pm
Let sleeping dogs lie.
It is a comfort to watch Aussie politics, see Turnbull sinking, and know we have compulsoryy voting and the AEC to translate 53/47 into reality. It ttakes my mind off Trump for a bit.
But then I read this extract fromaa speech onassuming power:
“The National Government will carry out the great task of reorganizing our national economy with two big Four-Year Plans:
Saving the [] farmer so that the nation’s food supply and thus the life of the nation shall be secured.
Saving the [] worker by a massive and comprehensive attack on unemployment.”
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/DEST_APPEAL1933_ENG.pdf
They both promised infrastructure too. Sorry, but glad as I am about Shorten’s effort, I still worry other events make it secondary. We are at the 21st century equivalent of the start of decline of Rome. Somebody just left the gate oopen.
Socrates
We can only cling to a hope it is the start of the rejection of Reaganomics, Thatcherism and all the economic theory trash they let in.
I’m shocked if this is being considered. It would indicate a real weakness in the Democratic Party.
matt31 @ #122 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm
As always, you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/schumer-and-pelosi-have-a-plan-to-make-trump-popular.html
I too had wondered about Obama’s very conciliatory tone re Donald Trump
David Corn
13h13 hours ago
David Corn @DavidCornDC
Obama is too damn gracious. (Or is he just being so gracious in order to play Trump?)
Victoria
Obama is being so gracious because either or both a) That is the sort of person he is and b) By being gracious it enhances the collective memory of what Obama the president was like.
Donald Trump looked like a bird in a gilded cage today:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/dont-worry-donald-trump-seems-pretty-miserable-about-the-election-result-too/news-story/aa87e3b4a7206bd76f3d6a7705dcb2b1
Because it wasn’t the one he wanted to go back to. Trump Tower. He’s stuck in the White House for 4 long years where every move he makes and every breath he takes, someone will be watching him. Which is a situation that he will find quite discomfiting I think.
dan gulberry @ #170 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 6:53 pm
*homing
Poroti
Of course we all want that, but logic tells me a man appointing a Goldman Sachs exec as Treasury Sec will not give it to us. Thanks anyway P. Best wishes all.
C@Tmomma
To be fair, anybody subjected to such 24/7 scrutiny would be feeling more than a little discomfort. It’s a glittering prize that comes with an enormous price tag.
Socrates
Yep and we have a “Golden Sacks” Truffle as PM. Hope barely flickers.
c@tmomma @ #261 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:43 pm
Obama is a real class act, demonstrated yet again in the video at the start of that link. He is far and away the best US president in my lifetime, he redefines what competence as a President is.
The US is going from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Saw this on a blog in the US:
“I do take some small, cold, bitter satisfaction in one thing, and that’s the fact that Trump is going to be absolutely f^^king miserable for the next four years.
He’s an entertainer and an attention whore, not a public servant. He wants to be on TV and in front of crowds, not actually working a difficult, gruelling, stressful job he can’t opt out of. He’s going to have to sit through SO many meetings, be forced to read SO many briefings, get shoehorned into serious business all day every day, without crowds to perform for, and he’s going to hate Every. Single. Minute.
And then, when he doesn’t deliver on his promises, when he doesn’t build the wall or create jobs or make people rich, when it becomes clear how incompetent and buffoonish he is, the country and all his supporters will turn on him. They’re gonna start blaming him for everything, and those crowds that cheered for him are going to start booing. He’ll be humiliated at every turn, and leave office with the lowest approval rating ever, and he’ll be universally despised.
Because if he’d lost to Hillary, he would have played the martyr forever, called everything rigged, and had a cushy gig on Fox News complaining every day about how he would have done it better. But now he’s going to have to actually WORK, he’s going to be forced to deal with RESPONSIBILITIES, while surrounded by people who hate him and don’t respect him, people vastly more intelligent and competent than him, and he will be exposed as a loser. And then, we’ll fire him. He’ll go down as the worst president in history. And he’ll have no one to blame but himself.
I know this isn’t much against the fear of what’s going to happen, but friends, hear me. We are going to make Donald Trump’s life a living nightmare, and I for one take immense pleasure from that.”
The Republican party is not going to turn its back on Reaganomics any time soon. Not only have Republican state governors been busily implementing trickle down policies, to their states’ detriment, but a major platform of Trump’s is tax cuts for the rich. His CoS runs a media ‘outlet’ previously owned and established by a man who described himself as Reagan conservative with libertarian sympathies which obviously collars him as a dunce on the economy.
Trickle down theory is alive and well in today’s Republican and Oz Liberal parties. It’s a sacred cow that definitely needs slaughtering.
Truffles back in the day.
https://newmatilda.com/2015/09/19/rise-malcolm-turnbull-staggering-wealth-surprising-aggression-substantial-intellect/
Confessions
JK Galbraith decades ago accurately described the trickle down bullshit.
““Trickle-down theory – the less than elegant metaphor that if one feeds the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.”
Poroti:
Bill Maher does it even better, with modern day real life egs of how it fails.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNbMD96xgY
Don,
The US is going from the sublime to the ridiculous.
What an apt description. I couldn’t have put it better myself!
To which I might add that President Obama is so good, he made the job of POTUS look easy. Even with a Republican-controlled Congress. He still figured out how to get things done. Now the Barbarians have stormed the White House citadel and they are going to lay waste to all the good things he achieved.
Pretty much like their Islamic simulacrum, the Islamic State. Who can’t wait to destroy all that is beautiful and the most finely wrought art. No wonder their favourite colour is black. Like their hearts.
Trump, on the other hand, prefers the gaudiness of gold. Displaying all the delicate sensitivity of a pig in mud. Like the man himself.
Confessions
JK also put it less politely but just as accurately as the “Piss on the poor” theory. Ta for the link.
Chris Taylor
Chris Taylor – Verified account @FutureBoy
Why Sanders wouldn’t have won: the GOP had a mountain of nasty and absolutely true oppo research on him. http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044 …
Night all