Better late than never, and with apologies for last night’s technical issues, the latest Newspoll result in The Australian overnight recorded a tie on two-party preferred, a slight improvement for the Coalition after Labor’s 51-49 lead in the four previous polls. However, both major parties are down a point on the primary vote, the Coalition to 40% and Labor to 35%, with the Greens also down one to 10%. The combined 15% others vote prompts The Australian to delve into some of what constitutes it: 3% apiece for the Nick Xenophon Team and Family First, 1% each for Palmer United and One Nation. Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings are little changed, down one on approval to 37% and up one on disapproval to 51%, but Bill Shorten loses last fortnight’s gains with a four point drop on approval to 33% and a three-point increase in disapproval to 52%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister nudges from 45-30. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1867.
UPDATE: Here’s BludgerTrack updated with the latest Newspoll, which hasn’t made much difference to it:
fulvio sammut @ #1100 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:35 pm
I believe my spelling is correct as I originally spelt it wrong and looked it up.
Surely a business tax cut will fix this!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-07/labor-pushes-for-royal-commission-into-banks-amid-asic-action/7488068
You may like to know that the delightful George Pell is resigning – apparently Cardinals have to resign at age seventy five.
George don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
How will George get home?
Now that the tedious practice of pointing out grammatical errors has raised it’s head again, can I make a motion that there be no longer any obligation felt to correct our own auto-correct errors in subsequent posts unless it really is difficult to understand the original intent of the post? We all experience these gremlins and generally we can already understand the intent of the poster without the additional clarification post.
It’s Brethren.
For once the bloody iPad didn’t autocorrect – only it bloody should have!
a b @ #1105 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:46 pm
I like being corrected, it helps improve my writing.
I got this from the US site Citizens for Tax Justice (ctj.org):
2013 data is used for Australia, Japan, Mexico, the Netherlands and Poland due to lack of
more recent data.
Source: OECD data,http://stats.oecd.org/; US Data from Treasury and U.S. Census. 2016.
Australia = 27.5% GDP, OECD average(excluding US) is 34.1%
So, we are NOt a high taxing country, despite what most commentators on most MSM outlets say.
chinda63 @ #1106 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:47 pm
My Chrome spell checker picked it up, but it doesn’t correct. Had to do that manually.
The Project just discussed Turnbull’s Facebook debate. General view that it is easy to cheat when answering questions on this format. Ali suggested a camera trained on the participants.
I wonder if the proceedings will be broadcast for Facebook non-users?
citizen @ #1110 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:50 pm
What would prevent a Town Hall Debate being broadcast via Facebook as well as FTA TV?
AB
Amen to that.
Thank you all.
bemused @ #1109 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:49 pm
Bemused, if you right click on the word with the squiggly red line under it, the menu that pops up has alternative options for the word (I’m using chrome too)
You’ve also got to wonder why Turnbull is trying to exclude hundreds of thousands of voters (probably mostly Coalition voters) – who don’t have access to the Internet – from participating in this type of innovative democracy …
a b @ #1105 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:46 pm
I experience eye-strain, which at times makes it very difficult to read or type. So I make lots of errors that I don’t notice until it’s too late to correct them. I’m more than happy to leave them. Frequently, my text is improved by my mistakes, I’m sure.
ajm @ #1114 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:53 pm
Yes, but it didn’t come up with the correct one.
booleanbach @ #1108 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:48 pm
Does this include statutory pension contributions?
bk @ #1102 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:37 pm
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has been arguing for a royal commission into the banking sector, and said the latest court action added to the growing evidence in favour of the national inquiry.
“How many more people need to suffer and get ripped off before Mr Turnbull stops covering up for the banks?” he said in a statement.
“Rather than hold the big banks accountable, Mr Turnbull is gifting them a $7.4 billion tax hand out.
“It is an insult to everyone who’s been ripped off.
“Mr Turnbull has a choice here, and he’s putting the big banks first. He’s governing for the banks, not the Australian people.”
As one who knows very well what chicanery the banks are capable of, I can only say that Shorten is right!
Actually , I see exactly the opposite happening. The Libs will win narrowly this time but will be shown the door in 2019 after their economic policies have proven be an utter failure. It is THEIR reputation that is going to be trashed, not Labor’s.
Watching the reports from Tassie. Vid of a guy (complete twit) with a camera standing on rocks down close to serious rough seas. Definitely evolution in action.
mtbw @ #1103 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:37 pm
There may be a God after all!
chinda63 @ #1115 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:54 pm
He’s attempting to depict himself as the embodiment of tech-cool. Maybe this is about trying to reach the young/ undecided/ disengaged/ apolitical. It is very difficult to campaign to these groups. They deliberately avoid being reached. Will it work?
It’s very simple. And Labor should have a field day with it.
But Turnbull actually hates interacting with ordinary people. Who might ask questions he does not have answers for.
The first debate was before ordinary people asking questions of concern to them, not the people who back the Liberal Party. That was far too difficult because these people had the temerity to ask questions that Bill Shorten knew how to answer. So the next time, it was an invitation only audience and questions were asked by three members of the inside-the-beltway groupthink club. But even they were uncomfortable to deal with.
So, finally, he has solved the problem (or at least his advisers have). Have a debate where he does not have to be in the same room as anyone other than his advisers. Who said our Prime Minister is not agile and innovative?
darn @ #1120 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:03 pm
lol
I think Labor will win and govern strongly, going on to greater victories in future elections, cementing their standing as the natural party of Government into the foreseeable……:)
chinda63 @ #1115 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:54 pm
In order to exclude hundreds of thousands of voters.
From today’s Crikey email, ‘Who’s afraid of Leigh Sales?’
Perhaps it’s a sign of diminishing relevance of these programs? Perhaps the political parties judge that there is better value in terms of engaging voters by appearing on non-political shows than being ‘gotcha’d’ by Sales, Jones and FKelly? In any case I thought Shorten had agreed to do a Qanda.
Personally I haven’t watched 730Report in ages because I find Sales’ accusatory interview style rather off-putting. I wish the ABC would put Emma Alberici in the 730Report chair, or even that guy who used to be on JJJ (the one who totally did a number on Direct Action, whose name I have forgotten).
It looks like Pell won’t be leaving the Vatican anytime soon, despite formally resigning on his 75th birthday.
tpof @ #1124 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:06 pm
The studio setting is probably the most difficult of all in which to appear at ease, natural, fluent and direct. Unless he’s done a lot of training…weeks and weeks of training, under duress and without anything to prompt him….he will likely stuff it up. In inter-personal communication, the chance to read and respond to the non-verbals is incredibly useful. Without it, a didactic speaker such as Turnbot, having to engage an essentially imaginary audience is taking an enormous risk. And even if it comes off, what will he have achieved? Very little other than appearing like a smart arse. Incredible risk.
7:21 and ABC has not even mentioned the TAFE policy.
Absolutely noting wrong with having a high Tax to GDP ratio when it is caused by high profitability, capital gains and growing incomes – that’ something to be proud of and allows for repayment of debt and tax cuts – like Howard and Costello were able to do.
Likewise there is absolutely noting wrong with having a low Tax to GDP ratio when it is caused by low profitability, capital gains and slow growth in incomes – that’s something to be proud of and allows for the maintenance of output and employment – like Rudd and Swan were able to do.
And likewise there is absolutely noting wrong with having a high spending to GDP ratio when it is caused by low profitability, capital gains and slow growth in incomes – that’s something to be proud of because it also helps with the maintenance of output and employment – like Rudd and Swan were able to do.
What is never acceptable though is to have a high spending to GDP ratio at the same time as high profitability, capital gains and growing incomes – that’s something to be ashamed of and only results in inflation and speculation bubbles for base political reasons of getting elected – like Howard and Costello were able to do to their eternal shame and out long term cost.
Oh dear… 7:30 Report became 7.30 years ago… :/
And it was Steve Cannane who demolished the lying Hunt. He is currently posted to the ABC’s London bureau as a Europe Correspondent so we won’t see him on Australian politics any time soon.
Won’t it come across as a little bit pathetic that the PM needs to be skyped in and is completely unwilling to face any questions from voters?
Of course Pell is going to stay with the church. What else would he do?
confessions @ #1127 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:16 pm
I can’t see how appearing on 7.30 or Lateline would serve any campaign purpose. They are barely watchable and certainly offer very few opportunities to present persuasive language. They have made themselves editorially irrelevant.
Bemused
When are you going to comprehend that I am not talking about ME. I am talking about access to the bloody thing for voters. I am telling you that the ONLY centres available to people will be in the city at a cost of $11 or 20-30 minutes drive or a two hour bus ride at a cost of $15 or so. assuming it was the same place as last election, a fair bet, then I promise you it is NOT accessible unless that is your local suburb.
As I say the ones in the City are fine if you ar a CBD worker, but because transport fares are so ridiculously high, I certainly never travel in to the city unless it is critical. I am talking about people with mild disability etc.
All I am bloody well trying to say is that I cannopt see how expectations of a very high prepoll make sense given the access issues.
Jeepers need I put it in three letter words and add pictures.
Deloitte Access Econ @D_AccessEcon
Aust’s PEFO growth rates underpin further prosperity gains, more sustainable budget; but with caveats.
LNP will blame Labor.
The MSM and their stars need to be the story regardless of the public interest.
Politicians and the Party strategists have worked out that being humiliated by gotchas, comments out of context and being talked over as if they weren’t there is simply a losing proposition.
daretotread @ #1136 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:28 pm
Take a few deep breaths and calm down.
The same is true for all electorates.
Suburban electorates are not all that large so one place is enough and in my electorate, it is the AEC office.
You are highly creative with your disaster scenarios.
Briefly:
There is also this from the TV ratings section of the Crikey news:
Perhaps shows like 7,30 and RN Breakfast are an outmoded medium for voter consumption of politics? They’ll happily give up an hour on a lazy Sunday morning to catch the week’s political news as presented by journalists, but that’s about the extent of their engagement with the format. Interesting times.
Citizen
The Pope can decide at that point to make him an Auxiliary Cardinal (he loses his vote but can play on) to make way for the Australian appointee if I understand the protocol involved.
dtt
what happens is that people who are in the city for other reasons – shopping, visiting, etc – drop in to prepoll vote at the same time. As it’s over three weeks, a very high percentage of people find themselves in this position.
My nearest prepoll, for example, is about an hour’s drive away (well, all five of the ones in the electorate are!). Even so, it’s very likely that sometime in the next three weeks I’ll be near enough to one of them to vote if I want to.
zoomster @ #1142 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:39 pm
The AEC also operates mobile polling booths where an AEC team will go to a participating institution such as a hospital or nursing home to allow the residents to vote.
Exactly. I wouldn’t make a trip to a pre-poll just to vote, even though it’s only 5 minutes away. But I’ll be in the same street some time during the pre-poll period and will drop in and get it sorted so I can just do htvs on election day without bothering about voting.
Bemused
What do you call “not large.” Ryan is 31 km at least. The electorate office is in the CBD. It used to be in the suburbs but is no longer. Last election the polling place was at Kenmore which is as I say 30 minutes away by car from most of the electorate and inaccessible by public transport for any but the nearby suburbs. There is no I mean NO public transport of the radial kind that would service this centre. The CBD is really the only option. As I say an $11 fare is not something you do on a whim.
It is obvious that the Electoral Office is NOT encouraging pre-polling. This is in contrast to the state election.
Bemused, given that you do not live in Brisbane, why do you not put a sock in it and actually talk about things that you DO know.
ratsak @ #1144 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:42 pm
I reckon a lot of people such as tradies do exactly that.
Since I will be doing HTVs at the pre-poll for a few shifts, I will take the opportunity to vote then.
Bluey Bulletin 72 Day 78 of 103
SITTING DUCK
Bluey watched Q&A and was reminded that Joyce is an egregious blabbermouth and that Windsor simply cuts to the chase. Joyce was a sitting duck on coal gas during Q&A and by the end of Q&A was a shot duck. The National Farmers Federation Deputy President slaughtered Joyce. Individual farmers slaughtered Joyce. Bush women slaughtered Joyce. Fitzgibbon slaughtered Joyce early (but then drifted). Fitzgibbon did not even know his own sides’ mental health policies. Joyce’s only solace was the business rep. Joyce’s one moment of triumph came towards the end when he let fly with his pork litany.
‘Do it once. Do it right. Do it with fibre’. With those words Windsor smashed Joyce. Bang!
EXHUMATION
Bluey notes that the Libs have trotted out Rip Van Howard to do a hatchet job on Mr X. Kroger follows this up with some nastiness on Sky. So Mr X says, ‘see!’ and picks up some more votes. Bluey reckons that the Liberal campaign team might be excellent at right wing projection but are shit at understanding how they are feeding bias confirmation vis-à-vis Mr X.
Bluey reckons that, having fostered a festering far raving right culture for years, the Liberals are about to reap what they have sown with a motley of micro ratbags about to exact their revenge on the ‘moderates’ in the Liberal Party.
CULTURE WARS
The Liberals are desperate to do culture wars. Turnbull is a feminist! Porter is a ‘modernist’. Cormann tries to imply that he is a feminist but really, don’t call him one. Shorten tries to fix Child Care and spends days answering questions about a single sentence about the relationship between women and organising and looking after children. A no-name called Kingston reckons that women should do the cooking and the ironing. Bluey reckons follow the money. Here is the substance. The sum effect of the suite of Turnbull’s policies will punish women relative to men. The number of females in the Liberal and Nationals Party rooms will go backwards after this election.
COMPANY TAX
Shorten is losing the company tax and ‘show me the money’ wars. Bluey reckons the vids are hurting.
ESSENTIAL
Bluey noted that there was a minor kerfuffle about the wording of the company tax question in Essential with some darkly hinting that it is pro-Labor formulation.
EMPTY CHAIR
No Ticker Turnbull.
AFP
Bluey wonders whether the AFP will raise its head over the parapet during the election on the various allegations affecting half a dozen Liberal candidates.
CONSUMER CONFIDENCE JUMPING
Good news for the Gubbies.
Verdict for the day: Evens
Cumulative Tally: Labor 46 Liberal/Greens Alliance 31
“And it was Steve Cannane who demolished the lying Hunt. He is currently posted to the ABC’s London bureau as a Europe Correspondent so we won’t see him on Australian politics any time soon.”
Well that’s a surprise. I suppose it’s a better fate than Sarah Ferguson’s.
Don’t hear much of Stephen Long these days either.
daretotread @ #1145 Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm
Do keep up!
You have a ‘Temporary’ AEC Office in Toowong.
The AEC say: “This office has been established to assist you with enquiries during the initial period of this election. As the office is temporary, please be aware that it may be replaced by a more appropriate facility (e.g. early voting centre) in the coming days or weeks.”
So you will have somewhere you can pre-poll in the electorate.
Most of the population in your electorate seems to be in that general area and much of it appears to be sparsely populated. They can do postals.
What is the real, underlying source of your angst?
Zoomster:
I pre-poll vote these days and did, even when I lived in the city. Our Shire office was a pre-polling station for the last federal election, and I’m assuming it will be again. Very convenient.